Re: gcc4: Time to drop gcc3 from the distro?
2011/9/8 Corinna Vinschen: > Sounds right to me. It's a pity that we don't have another good > replacement for Pascal(*) and Modula-2(**), but that doesn't mean we > have t ostick to gcc3 endlessly. > > Corinna > > (*) Porting FreePascal, anybody? > (**) ??? Some time ago I looked into fixing/creating the Modula-2, Haskell and Go ports for cygwin, and it seemed pretty hard to do. -- Reini
Re: gcc4: Time to drop gcc3 from the distro?
> Sounds right to me. It's a pity that we don't have another good > replacement for Pascal(*) and Modula-2(**), but that doesn't mean we > have t ostick to gcc3 endlessly. Pascal? Oh yes, I remember that. I used it in a one-semester introductory programming class, in 1983. Probably still have my book (Oh! Pascal!) around here someplace...
Re: gcc4: Time to drop gcc3 from the distro?
On Sep 6 21:06, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 20:40 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > As the subject says, shouldn't we remove gcc3 from the distro finally? > > We have 3 mingw compilers and gcc4 for Cygwin. What reason is left > > to stick to gcc 3? > > Based on Dave's response, only GDC. Therefore, I would say that once > he's ready to ship a GDC-enabled gcc-4.5+, then gcc3 can and should go, > at which point gcc4 can become gcc and the -4 suffixes can be dropped. Sounds right to me. It's a pity that we don't have another good replacement for Pascal(*) and Modula-2(**), but that doesn't mean we have t ostick to gcc3 endlessly. Corinna (*) Porting FreePascal, anybody? (**) ??? -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat
Re: gcc4: Time to drop gcc3 from the distro?
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 20:40 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > As the subject says, shouldn't we remove gcc3 from the distro finally? > We have 3 mingw compilers and gcc4 for Cygwin. What reason is left > to stick to gcc 3? Based on Dave's response, only GDC. Therefore, I would say that once he's ready to ship a GDC-enabled gcc-4.5+, then gcc3 can and should go, at which point gcc4 can become gcc and the -4 suffixes can be dropped. Yaakov
Re: gcc4: Time to drop gcc3 from the distro?
On 03/09/2011 09:42, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Sep 2 22:15, Dave Korn wrote: >> On 02/09/2011 19:40, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>> As the subject says, shouldn't we remove gcc3 from the distro finally? >>> We have 3 mingw compilers and gcc4 for Cygwin. What reason is left >>> to stick to gcc 3? >> Well, it's the only support we have for Pascal and D. > > Hmm. And I don't see a Modula-2 compiler in gcc4 either. All of them > exist as gcc frontends. I guess it's just lack of maintainers for > these packages which keeps them from being in the distro? No, it's lack of upstream development. GM2 and GPC appear to have been utterly dormant projects for quite some years now and won't build against recent GCC versions (GM2 works up to GCC-4.1.2, GPC up to some random date in early 2006). It takes a good deal of effort to keep a front-end up-to-date against mainline GCC development and they clearly just haven't had the manpower. That's why I had to stop packaging them in gcc4 releases. We've got the 3.4 releases, it didn't seem worthwhile making a special separate release just for the 3.4->4.1 change in the only one of the three languages that could be updated at all at the time. On the other hand I just found that D development has been resumed and it's been brought up to date with everything including gcc 4.6 series, so I plan to bring that back in the next gcc4 release :) cheers, DaveK
Re: gcc4: Time to drop gcc3 from the distro?
On Sep 2 22:15, Dave Korn wrote: > On 02/09/2011 19:40, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > As the subject says, shouldn't we remove gcc3 from the distro finally? > > We have 3 mingw compilers and gcc4 for Cygwin. What reason is left > > to stick to gcc 3? > > Well, it's the only support we have for Pascal and D. Hmm. And I don't see a Modula-2 compiler in gcc4 either. All of them exist as gcc frontends. I guess it's just lack of maintainers for these packages which keeps them from being in the distro? Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat
Re: gcc4: Time to drop gcc3 from the distro?
On 02/09/2011 19:40, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > As the subject says, shouldn't we remove gcc3 from the distro finally? > We have 3 mingw compilers and gcc4 for Cygwin. What reason is left > to stick to gcc 3? Well, it's the only support we have for Pascal and D. Someone might still be using them. cheers, DaveK
gcc4: Time to drop gcc3 from the distro?
As the subject says, shouldn't we remove gcc3 from the distro finally? We have 3 mingw compilers and gcc4 for Cygwin. What reason is left to stick to gcc 3? Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat