Re: lost announcements

2011-10-26 Thread Andrew Schulman
 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 09:17:40AM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
  Hm, you're right.  But the odd thing is that they weren't posted to the 
  cygwin
  list, which is where I read them:  http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-10/.
  
  Any idea why?
  
  Embedded email address.
 
 Could you please be more specific?  I've compared the 4 announcements, and I
 can't see any relevant difference between them.  The only email addresses I 
 can
 see in the announcements for sng and stunnel are the To and From addresses,
 which are of course present in every announcement.  There's also the 
 unsubscribe
 address, which is generic and appears in the boilerplate of every 
 announcement.
 
 People have been removing the unsubscribe email address from their
 announcements.  Your announcements seem to contain extra MIME characters
 which sometimes confuse the raw email in body of message check and
 allow the message to sneak through.

Thanks.  I think I see what you're talking about, although I have no idea
why they're there.  Extra spaces that got converted for some reason I
guess.

So are you saying that the text we're supposed to add at the bottom of our
announcements has changed?  If so, can we please update the example at
http://cygwin.com/setup.html#announcement, and notify this list?

Andrew.


Re: lost announcements

2011-10-26 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Oct 26 02:27, Andrew Schulman wrote:
  On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 09:17:40AM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
   Hm, you're right.  But the odd thing is that they weren't posted to the 
   cygwin
   list, which is where I read them:  http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-10/.
   
   Any idea why?
   
   Embedded email address.
  
  Could you please be more specific?  I've compared the 4 announcements, and 
  I
  can't see any relevant difference between them.  The only email addresses 
  I can
  see in the announcements for sng and stunnel are the To and From addresses,
  which are of course present in every announcement.  There's also the 
  unsubscribe
  address, which is generic and appears in the boilerplate of every 
  announcement.
  
  People have been removing the unsubscribe email address from their
  announcements.  Your announcements seem to contain extra MIME characters
  which sometimes confuse the raw email in body of message check and
  allow the message to sneak through.
 
 Thanks.  I think I see what you're talking about, although I have no idea
 why they're there.  Extra spaces that got converted for some reason I
 guess.
 
 So are you saying that the text we're supposed to add at the bottom of our
 announcements has changed?  If so, can we please update the example at
 http://cygwin.com/setup.html#announcement, and notify this list?

I just replace the @ with an  at  string on setup.html.

I'm wondering if the raw mail address filter isn't a bit overagressive.
Am I mistaken or has the traffic on the cygwin ML gone down a lot lately?


Corinna

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Re: lost announcements

2011-10-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 09:24:22AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
I'm wondering if the raw mail address filter isn't a bit overagressive.
Am I mistaken or has the traffic on the cygwin ML gone down a lot
lately?

I thought it was obvious that I spend some time every day dealing with
spam, bounced email, and other irritating sysadmin activities on
sourceware.  There are a lot of vain attempts to send html based email
and email with raw email addresses to the cygwin list but most of them
eventually result in either 1) a why is your system so mean to me???
message to postmaster or 2) email to the cygwin list.  The end result of
1) is usually correctly formatted email to the cygwin list.

In any event, this is not really a subject for this list.  You could
send email to postmaster if you have concerns but I'm pretty sure he
will tell you the same thing.

cgf


Re: lost announcements

2011-10-25 Thread Andrew Schulman
 Hm, you're right.  But the odd thing is that they weren't posted to the 
 cygwin
 list, which is where I read them:  http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-10/.
 
 Any idea why?
 
 Embedded email address.

Could you please be more specific?  I've compared the 4 announcements, and I
can't see any relevant difference between them.  The only email addresses I can
see in the announcements for sng and stunnel are the To and From addresses,
which are of course present in every announcement.  There's also the unsubscribe
address, which is generic and appears in the boilerplate of every announcement.

I don't really care - just doing my maintainer duty.  But if there's something
I'm doing wrong I may as well know about it.

Thanks,
Andrew.


Re: lost announcements

2011-10-25 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 09:17:40AM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
 Hm, you're right.  But the odd thing is that they weren't posted to the 
 cygwin
 list, which is where I read them:  http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-10/.
 
 Any idea why?
 
 Embedded email address.

Could you please be more specific?  I've compared the 4 announcements, and I
can't see any relevant difference between them.  The only email addresses I can
see in the announcements for sng and stunnel are the To and From addresses,
which are of course present in every announcement.  There's also the 
unsubscribe
address, which is generic and appears in the boilerplate of every announcement.

People have been removing the unsubscribe email address from their
announcements.  Your announcements seem to contain extra MIME characters
which sometimes confuse the raw email in body of message check and
allow the message to sneak through.


lost announcements

2011-10-24 Thread Andrew Schulman
This morning I sent 4 package update announcements to cygwin-announce.  Two of
them (socat, lftp) were posted, but the other two (stunnel, sng) haven't shown
up yet.  Meanwhile, other later announcements have been posted.

Are the missing messages held up in the queue?  Anything I need to do about
that?  Or, should I resend them?

Thanks,
Andrew.


Re: lost announcements

2011-10-24 Thread David Sastre
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 04:16:18PM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
 This morning I sent 4 package update announcements to cygwin-announce.  Two of
 them (socat, lftp) were posted, but the other two (stunnel, sng) haven't shown
 up yet.  Meanwhile, other later announcements have been posted.
 
 Are the missing messages held up in the queue?  Anything I need to do about
 that?  Or, should I resend them?
 
 Thanks,
 Andrew.

I have received them, and they both show in the web:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2011-10/msg00036.html
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2011-10/msg00035.html

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Re: lost announcements

2011-10-24 Thread Andrew Schulman
 On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 04:16:18PM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
  This morning I sent 4 package update announcements to cygwin-announce.  Two 
  of
  them (socat, lftp) were posted, but the other two (stunnel, sng) haven't 
  shown
  up yet.  Meanwhile, other later announcements have been posted.
  
  Are the missing messages held up in the queue?  Anything I need to do about
  that?  Or, should I resend them?
 
 I have received them, and they both show in the web:
 
 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2011-10/msg00036.html
 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2011-10/msg00035.html

Hm, you're right.  But the odd thing is that they weren't posted to the cygwin
list, which is where I read them:  http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-10/.

Any idea why?

Thanks,
Andrew.


Re: lost announcements

2011-10-24 Thread David Sastre
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 05:20:52PM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
  On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 04:16:18PM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
   This morning I sent 4 package update announcements to cygwin-announce.  
   Two of
   them (socat, lftp) were posted, but the other two (stunnel, sng) haven't 
   shown
   up yet.  Meanwhile, other later announcements have been posted.
   
   Are the missing messages held up in the queue?  Anything I need to do 
   about
   that?  Or, should I resend them?
  
  I have received them, and they both show in the web:
  
  http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2011-10/msg00036.html
  http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2011-10/msg00035.html
 
 Hm, you're right.  But the odd thing is that they weren't posted to the cygwin
 list, which is where I read them:  http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-10/.
 
 Any idea why?

Nope. And I'm afraid I can't help there.

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Re: lost announcements

2011-10-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 05:20:52PM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 04:16:18PM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
  This morning I sent 4 package update announcements to cygwin-announce.  
  Two of
  them (socat, lftp) were posted, but the other two (stunnel, sng) haven't 
  shown
  up yet.  Meanwhile, other later announcements have been posted.
  
  Are the missing messages held up in the queue?  Anything I need to do about
  that?  Or, should I resend them?
 
 I have received them, and they both show in the web:
 
 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2011-10/msg00036.html
 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2011-10/msg00035.html

Hm, you're right.  But the odd thing is that they weren't posted to the cygwin
list, which is where I read them:  http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-10/.

Any idea why?

Embedded email address.

cgf