Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
I just committed a big pactch to doc/setup-net.sgml that more or less documents setup.exe. Resulting HTML can temporarily be seen at: http://iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/setup-net.html 2003-03-22 Joshua Daniel Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * setup-net.sgml: Document setup.exe
Re: Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 02:11:32PM -0600, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: I just committed a big pactch to doc/setup-net.sgml that more or less documents setup.exe. Resulting HTML can temporarily be seen at: http://iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/setup-net.html 2003-03-22 Joshua Daniel Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * setup-net.sgml: Document setup.exe Feel free to update the cygwin web pages if you want. cgf
Re: Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
--- Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 02:11:32PM -0600, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: I just committed a big pactch to doc/setup-net.sgml that more or less documents setup.exe. Resulting HTML can temporarily be seen at: http://iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/setup-net.html 2003-03-22 Joshua Daniel Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * setup-net.sgml: Document setup.exe Feel free to update the cygwin web pages if you want. OK... how? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 12:17:40PM -0800, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: --- Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 02:11:32PM -0600, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: I just committed a big pactch to doc/setup-net.sgml that more or less documents setup.exe. Resulting HTML can temporarily be seen at: http://iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/setup-net.html 2003-03-22 Joshua Daniel Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * setup-net.sgml: Document setup.exe Feel free to update the cygwin web pages if you want. OK... how? CVS - :ext:cygwin.com:/cvs/cygwin cgf
Re: Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
--- Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feel free to update the cygwin web pages if you want. OK... how? CVS - :ext:cygwin.com:/cvs/cygwin I've got this ready to go, but there are quite a few small differences between the ones in htdocs/cygwin-ug-net and my cygwin-ug-net, I suspect related to: -CONTENT=Modular DocBook HTML Stylesheet Version 1.76b+ -LINK +CONTENT=Modular DocBook HTML Stylesheet Version 1.44LINK Is this going to matter? All the filenames are the same, but some of the internal links change. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
At 02:11 PM 3/22/2003 -0600, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: I just committed a big pactch to doc/setup-net.sgml that more or less documents setup.exe. Resulting HTML can temporarily be seen at: http://iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/setup-net.html 2003-03-22 Joshua Daniel Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * setup-net.sgml: Document setup.exe Thanks Joshua. Here are three comments The Root Directory for Cygwin (default C:\cygwin) will become '/' within your Cygwin installation. *** Perhaps add that you must have write access to the parent directory (here c:\) and the inheritances in the acl of the parent will determine the access to the installed files All Windows drives can be accessed with the /cygdrive/X/ virtual directory and Cygwin's mount utility. That's not setup related. Delete? The Install For options of All Users or Just Me are especially for multiuser systems or Domain users. If you have a single-user workstation, this option probably does not concern you. If you are seeking to rollout Cygwin on a large Domain, you will want to think carefully about the implications of each type and possibly consult the Cygwin mailing list archives about others' experiences. This option is mysterious and the explanation above does not give any food for thought in think carefully about the implications. Is it about the mounts in the registry? Anything else? Given that the daemons use the system mounts, wouldn't it be a good idea to set them? Pierre
Re: Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 12:47:08PM -0800, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: Is this going to matter? No. cgf
Re: Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
--- Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 12:47:08PM -0800, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: Is this going to matter? No. Committed. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 11:24:59AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 07:11, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: I just committed a big pactch to doc/setup-net.sgml that more or less documents setup.exe. Resulting HTML can temporarily be seen at: http://iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/setup-net.html 2003-03-22 Joshua Daniel Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * setup-net.sgml: Document setup.exe A few comments ( hope I'm not duplicating feedback here): * The cache should not be the same folder as the Cygwin root. Can you make this must not be. setup *will* choke :[. * For most users, the Direct Connection method of downloading is the best choice. IMO the IE5 method is best. I've been considering making it the default. The IE5 method will leverage your IE5 cache and or organisational proxy server for performance. It will also honour browser auto-configuration scripts. * setup.ini setup actually downloads setup.bz2 these days, setup.ini is a suported legacy config file. I don't know if you want to mention that or not. * along with some basic information about each package (version number, dependencies, checksum, etc.) You might want to skip this bit, and / or link to http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin-apps/setup.html#setup.ini i.e.: From each selected mirror site, setup.exe downloads a small text file called setup.bz2 that contains a list of packages available from that mirror. For details on the format see the setup.exe home page. * packages are divided into categories you might want to say 'grouped into', or 'categorized by'. divided into could suggest literal division of individual packages to a non english reader - i.e. /bin files go into the foo package :]. * a very basic Cygwin to me, 'minimal' reads more clearly than 'very basic'. Just a thought. * If you are interested in what is being done, the scripts are kept in the /etc/postinstall/ directory, renamed with a done extension after being run. I'd rather not have this in the users guide. It's one more place to update when things change... A reference to the setup package creation guide (http://cygwin.com/setup.html#postinstall) should suffice. Fantastic job otherwise! Megadittos. Great job. I agree with all of Robert's observations, too, fwiw. cgf
Re: Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
On 23 Mar 2003, Robert Collins wrote: [snip] * For most users, the Direct Connection method of downloading is the best choice. IMO the IE5 method is best. I've been considering making it the default. The IE5 method will leverage your IE5 cache and or organisational proxy server for performance. It will also honour browser auto-configuration scripts. This doesn't work for me. I'm still trying to figure out why, but since the possibility is there, better err on the side of caution. * setup.ini setup actually downloads setup.bz2 these days, setup.ini is a suported legacy config file. I don't know if you want to mention that or not. It's stored locally as setup.ini, though, isn't it? [snip] * packages are divided into categories you might want to say 'grouped into', or 'categorized by'. divided into could suggest literal division of individual packages to a non english reader - i.e. /bin files go into the foo package :]. How about Packages are assigned categories, and one package may belong to multiple categories. * a very basic Cygwin to me, 'minimal' reads more clearly than 'very basic'. Just a thought. Minimal is overloaded to mean other things, though... I'm not sure what the right term here would be, reasonable, perhaps? Igor [snip] Fantastic job otherwise! Cheers, Rob -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk! -- /usr/games/fortune
Re: Patched doc/setup-net.sgml
On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 11:55, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On 23 Mar 2003, Robert Collins wrote: [snip] * For most users, the Direct Connection method of downloading is the best choice. IMO the IE5 method is best. I've been considering making it the default. The IE5 method will leverage your IE5 cache and or organisational proxy server for performance. It will also honour browser auto-configuration scripts. This doesn't work for me. I'm still trying to figure out why, but since the possibility is there, better err on the side of caution. Mouse button scrolling doesn't work for some users. We don't disable it for them. Setup was failing to setup ntsec just recently, but we didn't err on caution there. I see no reason to err on caution here, particularly when the benefits are huge. * setup.ini setup actually downloads setup.bz2 these days, setup.ini is a suported legacy config file. I don't know if you want to mention that or not. It's stored locally as setup.ini, though, isn't it? In setups *private*, just to *change without notice* local package dir yes. User programs MUST NOT consider whats there canonical unless the authors sit on this list and track as setup changes. It's certainly not something to tell folk about during the installation! [snip] * packages are divided into categories you might want to say 'grouped into', or 'categorized by'. divided into could suggest literal division of individual packages to a non english reader - i.e. /bin files go into the foo package :]. How about Packages are assigned categories, and one package may belong to multiple categories. Also good. Possibly we need a more user orientated flavour.. Packages are grouped into categories by the author, and can be found under any of those categories in the 'categories' hierarchical chooser view ? Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part