RE: RE Cygwin List posts
You didn't misunderstand a thing, Harold, I was just in a surrealistic mood. Sorry I made you waste your time. -Original Message- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: woensdag 2 oktober 2002 15:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE Cygwin List posts Geert, I don't know what you are trying to say here. My response to Jean-Claude was light-hearted (I said my dog was fine): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00279.html Ben responded to me throwing my hands in the air with a much more detailed account of his situation (notice that the message subject changed back to RH 7.3 from our off-list subject of Cygwin List Posts): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00280.html I then responded with some information that was probably helpful: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00281.html After that there was no response, so I can only assume that the 1024x768x65535 was causing the problem (or his RedHat machine was not in runlevel 5). So Geert, I have misunderstood your postings before... what have I misunderstood this time? Harold Pille Geert (bizvdm) wrote: > I have learned from a reliable source, that Harold has (repeat: HAS) a pain > in the ass. Which sometimes explains a person's emotional reactions. But > one must admit that Ben did not help to ease the pain. > > -Original Message- > From: Jean-Claude Gervais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: woensdag 25 september 2002 21:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: RE Cygwin List posts > > > Having problems with your dog, Harold? ;-) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:16 PM > To: Benjamin Simmons > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE Cygwin List posts > > Ben, > > See, you aren't telling me what you have had success in doing. What do > you mean ``They all work fine''? Does that mean that you have > successfully done an XDMCP session, used ssh to display remote clients, > and used telnet to display remote clients? If so, then say exactly that. > > I'm not just going to ``elaborate'' about the wonderful things that you > can do with XDMCP and ssh --- I could write about them all day long. > You have to ask a specific question about precisely what it is that you > want to do. We cannot read your mind. Imagine for a moment that your > dog cannot walk and that I am a vet. If you come to me and say, ``my > dog has a broken leg, can you fix it?'', then I am very likely to help > you. If, on the other hand, you come to me and say, ``My dog needs to > [mumble mumble mumble]... can you tell me about the many things that > dogs can do?'', then I'm going to kick you out of my office. > > Harold > > P.S. - This is going back on [EMAIL PROTECTED] because it seems to > me like you are trying to waste my time since you are being vague about > both your questions and your answers. Don't reply to me personally, > only send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Benjamin Simmons wrote: > > >>thank you sir for your reply, >>at this point I would love to gain some further instruction on either > > option > >>you present. I have multiple RHLinux 7.2 boxes setup so that I can do your >>first option. They all work fine. I am having the difficulty in setting > > up > >>a RH Linux 7.3 box in the same manner. >> >>I did the things you discuss in the guide, and any further elaboration is >>greatly appreciated. >> >>Thank you, >>Ben Simmons >> >>Harold L Hunt II wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Ben, >>> >>>I have been reading the list and it looks to me like you asked the same >>>question over again. Rasjid gave you the same answer that I gave you >>>--- which defeats the purpose of writing a User's Guide, since I wrote >>>the User's Guide to explain this very question once and for all. >>> >>>You say that you need to connect to multiple machines. Is that the >>>specific part that you are having trouble with? Are you able to connect >>>to one machine at a time, but not to multiple machines at once? If so, >>>I can help you with that. >>> >>>Please be clear on whether you are trying to run a remote session via >>>XDMCP (where you are presented by a login box and one Cygwin/XFree86 >>>window is owned entirely by one remote machine) or whether you are >>>trying to display remote clients via ssh (in which case you can ssh to >>>multiple remote machines and have them all display X Clients in one >>>Cygwin/XFree86 window - or in multiple Cygwin/XFree86 windows). >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>Benjamin Simmons wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> If you had ben paying attention to the list today, you would have seen an excahnge between myself and Rasjid Wilcox. If you were paying attention to this exchange, you would have noticed that he has offered further details. I did read through what you sent me, and found it to cover exactly what I h
Re: Port of xlockmore-5.01.2 to latest cygwin port of X11
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 10:10:56PM -0700, Joseph I. Davida wrote: >I had to kludge it in order to make it compile correctly on Cygwin (on >win2k). However, cygwin still does not properly support passwords, so >xlock is unable to verify the password. This problem affects other >programs that require password verification as well. "passwd", "telnet", and "login" (to name a few) all support passwords on win2k. So, I don't understand why this should be a problem. cgf
Port of xlockmore-5.01.2 to latest Cygwin port of X11
I had to kludge it in order to make it compile correctly on Cygwin (on win2k). However, cygwin still does not properly support passwords, so xlock is unable to verify the password. This problem affects other programs that require password verification as well. Hopefully, xlockmore's maintaner will fix the configure script to recognize cygwin and generate the right #define's and #include's In particular, the files I had to change are: modes/dclock.c 903c903 < extern long timezone; --- > // extern long timezone; due to confilict with timezone def in time.h /modes/solitare.cc Changed every occurance of round(.. to myround(... because it was confilicting with round declaration in math.h xlock/logout.c 34a35 > #include ./xlock/xlock.c 180a181,182 > #define CYGWIN > 2697c2699 < #if defined( SYSV ) || defined( SVR4 ) || ( __VMS_VER >= 7000 ) --- > #if defined( SYSV ) || defined( SVR4 ) || ( __VMS_VER >= 7000 ) || defined( >CYGWIN ) 2744c2746 < #if defined( SYSV ) || defined( SVR4 ) || ( __VMS_VER >= 7000 ) --- > #if defined( SYSV ) || defined( SVR4 ) || ( __VMS_VER >= 7000 ) || defined( >CYGWIN ) 3640c3642 < #if defined( SYSV ) || defined( SVR4 ) || ( __VMS_VER >= 7000 ) --- > #if defined( SYSV ) || defined( SVR4 ) || ( __VMS_VER >= 7000 ) || defined( >CYGWIN ) 3708a3711 > xmlock/Makefile 95c95 < XMLOCKLIBS = -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXpm -lXmu -lXm -lXt -lX11 --- > XMLOCKLIBS = -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXpm -lXmu -lXm -lXt -lX11 -lSM -lICE
Re: Donations
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 11:35:37PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >I have setup a Donations page on the Cygwin/XFree86 site. >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/donations.html So, is everyone streaming to help fund Harold's good work in XFree86? cgf
Re: Remote sessions with HP UX CDE ?
Hi everyone, Sorry for not responding it was a holiday yesterday, and I dont have net at home :-S. First thanks to all of you for your replies. But I'm still out of luck :-( .I'll tried using some of the stuff in Ben's batch file XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -once -query (thanks for sending it :-)). It still didn't work but, there was a change in that my X session opened a window, I saw that squat looking hour glass for about 2 secsonds before it blanked out. Here's my XWin.log file. I looked through it and found something odd :- "_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root " Anyone out there able to help me out with intrepreting this ? regards George :-) P.S. (I tried resolution changing too 8bpp, 16bpp) XWin.log Description: Binary data
GTK+ for XFree86 cygwin - Window or Unix src files? And other windows dll's really.
If I want GTK+ for use on cygwin and Xfree86. Let's say I want to compile Dillo for the XFree86 server. Do I get the Windows version of GTK or the unix version? At a basic level can I link to Windows libraries (which they all are since I am on windows) and expect the code to work in XFree86 on Cygwin? I haven't tried this yet, obviously. I know people have gotten Dillo to work, so GTK must work, but which version. Should one always chose a version over another? thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
Frank, There is information in the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide that describes your different options for starting Cygwin/XFree86: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting Window resizing and scrollbars are both controlled by the X ``window manager''. You are looking for something that we are all always looking for, the unobtainable ``better window manager''. However, there are several other options for a window manager that you can try out without much work. Just rerun Cygwin's setup.exe and look under the XFree86 category --- there are a few window managers listed there (MWM is in the Lesstif package, openbox, window-maker, etc.). You can edit startxwin.bat (which is, by the way, the recommended way to start Cygwin/XFree86) and replace the line that starts ``twm'' with one of the others that you have installed, e.g., ``mwm''. Each window manager has its own quirks and bugs (some of them don't work correctly when the NumLock key is on, etc.). Choosing a window manager is a highly personal thing so that is about all the help that I can give you. I am sure that others will chime in with links to their favorite WMs now. :) Harold Lane, Frank L wrote: > Hello again, > > I'm managing to take a couple of steps a day. One thing I stumbled across > the other day is the startx command. I use this to work. I've noticed that > my windows are not resizable and do not have scrollbars. Is there a better > way to kickoff X? > > Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm > trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a > message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. > I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any > suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in > the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? > > Thanks, > Frank
RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
Thanks to all, please excuse my whining. Gawd I love this stuff!:-) Frank -Original Message- From: Jean-Claude Gervais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? Hi Frank, This list is really all about the Cygwin implementation of X and issues concerning that. If you have generic questions about X development, www.x.org might be a place to start. The comp.windows.x newsgroup might have some people on it that could help you. As an aside, your question about linking X calls to your cygwin app does seem legit to me, but I cannot answer it. Sorry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lane, Frank L Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 12:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? OK. If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I go to ask them? Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious from the project page description. Thanks, Frank -Original Message- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm > trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a > message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. > I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any > suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in > the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
Hi Frank, This list is really all about the Cygwin implementation of X and issues concerning that. If you have generic questions about X development, www.x.org might be a place to start. The comp.windows.x newsgroup might have some people on it that could help you. As an aside, your question about linking X calls to your cygwin app does seem legit to me, but I cannot answer it. Sorry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lane, Frank L Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 12:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? OK. If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I go to ask them? Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious from the project page description. Thanks, Frank -Original Message- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm > trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a > message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. > I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any > suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in > the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: RE Cygwin List posts
Heh... Pookie is a golden retriever, but she lives with my parents so I only get to see her once every month or two :( Harold Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: > As long as we are at it, I want to know what color your dog is. > Also, I am glad Pookie is feeling better. Geert had mentioned something > about Pookie's posterior being hurt. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE Cygwin List posts > > Geert, > > I don't know what you are trying to say here. > > My response to Jean-Claude was light-hearted (I said my dog was fine): > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00279.html > > Ben responded to me throwing my hands in the air with a much more > detailed account of his situation (notice that the message subject > changed back to RH 7.3 from our off-list subject of Cygwin List Posts): > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00280.html > > I then responded with some information that was probably helpful: > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00281.html > > After that there was no response, so I can only assume that the > 1024x768x65535 was causing the problem (or his RedHat machine was not in > runlevel 5). > > > So Geert, I have misunderstood your postings before... what have I > misunderstood this time? > > > Harold > > Pille Geert (bizvdm) wrote: > >>I have learned from a reliable source, that Harold has (repeat: HAS) a > > pain > >>in the ass. Which sometimes explains a person's emotional reactions. But >>one must admit that Ben did not help to ease the pain. >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Jean-Claude Gervais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: woensdag 25 september 2002 21:21 >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: RE: RE Cygwin List posts >> >> >>Having problems with your dog, Harold? ;-) >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > >>Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II >>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:16 PM >>To: Benjamin Simmons >>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: RE Cygwin List posts >> >>Ben, >> >>See, you aren't telling me what you have had success in doing. What do >>you mean ``They all work fine''? Does that mean that you have >>successfully done an XDMCP session, used ssh to display remote clients, >>and used telnet to display remote clients? If so, then say exactly that. >> >>I'm not just going to ``elaborate'' about the wonderful things that you >>can do with XDMCP and ssh --- I could write about them all day long. >> You have to ask a specific question about precisely what it is that you >>want to do. We cannot read your mind. Imagine for a moment that your >>dog cannot walk and that I am a vet. If you come to me and say, ``my >>dog has a broken leg, can you fix it?'', then I am very likely to help >>you. If, on the other hand, you come to me and say, ``My dog needs to >>[mumble mumble mumble]... can you tell me about the many things that >>dogs can do?'', then I'm going to kick you out of my office. >> >>Harold >> >>P.S. - This is going back on [EMAIL PROTECTED] because it seems to >>me like you are trying to waste my time since you are being vague about >>both your questions and your answers. Don't reply to me personally, >>only send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>Benjamin Simmons wrote: >> >> >> >>>thank you sir for your reply, >>>at this point I would love to gain some further instruction on either >> >>option >> >> >>>you present. I have multiple RHLinux 7.2 boxes setup so that I can do >> > your > >>>first option. They all work fine. I am having the difficulty in setting >> >>up >> >> >>>a RH Linux 7.3 box in the same manner. >>> >>>I did the things you discuss in the guide, and any further elaboration is >>>greatly appreciated. >>> >>>Thank you, >>>Ben Simmons >>> >>>Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ben, I have been reading the list and it looks to me like you asked the same question over again. Rasjid gave you the same answer that I gave you --- which defeats the purpose of writing a User's Guide, since I wrote the User's Guide to explain this very question once and for all. You say that you need to connect to multiple machines. Is that the specific part that you are having trouble with? Are you able to connect to one machine at a time, but not to multiple machines at once? If so, I can help you with that. Please be clear on whether you are trying to run a remote session via XDMCP (where you are presented by a login box and one Cygwin/XFree86 window is owned entirely by one remote machine) or whether you are trying to display remote clients via ssh (in which case you can ssh to multiple remote machines and have them all display X Clients in one Cygwin/XFree86 window - or in multiple Cygwin/XFree86 wi
Re: Rootless Mode is an Important and Needed Feature
Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Good point Alexander. > > On a side note: Why is it that XDarwin has so many people contributing > code and features (they seem to have an OpenGL-passthrough system now, > which is pretty amazing), while Cygwin/XFree86 has so few > contributors? This seems contradictory because Windows is on 95% of > desktops while Mac OS X is only on < 1% (~20% of Apple's 5% market > share are running Mac OS X). > > That question will probably always baffle me. Up until the past year or so, porting to Cygwin was a little more difficult than porting application to OSX. Don't forget, the Cygwin folks have had to write more of the layers of the *NIX environment whereas the OSX folks have a nice (and complete) *NIX environment handed to them on a plate. I have been using Cygwin for years now and I would say the momentum, user base, and usability is definitely increasing.
Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
Frank, I think Alexander probably hit the send button before he was finished writing a reply (or, in this case, before he even started). He signs all of his emails with ``bye [return] ago'', so I am guessing that he has this in a signature file that automatically gets added to the end of the emails that he writes. The ``bye'' is because he is a native German speaker and lots of Germans use ``bye'' as their closing... that is just a cultural thing. You should hear them speak it... they say it very politely, not curtly like it may seem in email. Anyway, your questions are valid here, just wait until someone answers them. Harold Lane, Frank L wrote: > OK. If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I > go to ask them? > > Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious > from the project page description. > > Thanks, > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Alexander Gottwald > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? > > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > > >>Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, > > I'm > >>trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a >>message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. >>I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. > > Any > >>suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is > > in > >>the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? > > > bye > ago
RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > OK. If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I > go to ask them? Oops. Sorry. The editor must have eaten some lines. So I try again: Use -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11. Sorry, ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
RE: RE Cygwin List posts
As long as we are at it, I want to know what color your dog is. Also, I am glad Pookie is feeling better. Geert had mentioned something about Pookie's posterior being hurt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE Cygwin List posts Geert, I don't know what you are trying to say here. My response to Jean-Claude was light-hearted (I said my dog was fine): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00279.html Ben responded to me throwing my hands in the air with a much more detailed account of his situation (notice that the message subject changed back to RH 7.3 from our off-list subject of Cygwin List Posts): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00280.html I then responded with some information that was probably helpful: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00281.html After that there was no response, so I can only assume that the 1024x768x65535 was causing the problem (or his RedHat machine was not in runlevel 5). So Geert, I have misunderstood your postings before... what have I misunderstood this time? Harold Pille Geert (bizvdm) wrote: > I have learned from a reliable source, that Harold has (repeat: HAS) a pain > in the ass. Which sometimes explains a person's emotional reactions. But > one must admit that Ben did not help to ease the pain. > > -Original Message- > From: Jean-Claude Gervais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: woensdag 25 september 2002 21:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: RE Cygwin List posts > > > Having problems with your dog, Harold? ;-) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:16 PM > To: Benjamin Simmons > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE Cygwin List posts > > Ben, > > See, you aren't telling me what you have had success in doing. What do > you mean ``They all work fine''? Does that mean that you have > successfully done an XDMCP session, used ssh to display remote clients, > and used telnet to display remote clients? If so, then say exactly that. > > I'm not just going to ``elaborate'' about the wonderful things that you > can do with XDMCP and ssh --- I could write about them all day long. > You have to ask a specific question about precisely what it is that you > want to do. We cannot read your mind. Imagine for a moment that your > dog cannot walk and that I am a vet. If you come to me and say, ``my > dog has a broken leg, can you fix it?'', then I am very likely to help > you. If, on the other hand, you come to me and say, ``My dog needs to > [mumble mumble mumble]... can you tell me about the many things that > dogs can do?'', then I'm going to kick you out of my office. > > Harold > > P.S. - This is going back on [EMAIL PROTECTED] because it seems to > me like you are trying to waste my time since you are being vague about > both your questions and your answers. Don't reply to me personally, > only send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Benjamin Simmons wrote: > > >>thank you sir for your reply, >>at this point I would love to gain some further instruction on either > > option > >>you present. I have multiple RHLinux 7.2 boxes setup so that I can do your >>first option. They all work fine. I am having the difficulty in setting > > up > >>a RH Linux 7.3 box in the same manner. >> >>I did the things you discuss in the guide, and any further elaboration is >>greatly appreciated. >> >>Thank you, >>Ben Simmons >> >>Harold L Hunt II wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Ben, >>> >>>I have been reading the list and it looks to me like you asked the same >>>question over again. Rasjid gave you the same answer that I gave you >>>--- which defeats the purpose of writing a User's Guide, since I wrote >>>the User's Guide to explain this very question once and for all. >>> >>>You say that you need to connect to multiple machines. Is that the >>>specific part that you are having trouble with? Are you able to connect >>>to one machine at a time, but not to multiple machines at once? If so, >>>I can help you with that. >>> >>>Please be clear on whether you are trying to run a remote session via >>>XDMCP (where you are presented by a login box and one Cygwin/XFree86 >>>window is owned entirely by one remote machine) or whether you are >>>trying to display remote clients via ssh (in which case you can ssh to >>>multiple remote machines and have them all display X Clients in one >>>Cygwin/XFree86 window - or in multiple Cygwin/XFree86 windows). >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>Benjamin Simmons wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> If you had ben paying attention to the list today, you would have seen an excahnge between myself and Rasjid Wilcox. If you were paying attention to this exchange, you would have noticed that he has offered further details. I
RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
OK. If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I go to ask them? Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious from the project page description. Thanks, Frank -Original Message- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm > trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a > message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. > I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any > suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in > the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm > trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a > message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. > I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any > suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in > the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: XFree 4.2.1 + fontconfig-2
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > # platform: $XFree86: xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf,v 3.45 2002/10/01 14:31:36 > alanh Exp $ > > # $XFree86: xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules,v 3.20 2002/10/01 14:31:36 alanh Exp $ > > Concat3(cyg,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll): deplist > libname.def > RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll.a)) > RemoveFile(Concat3(cyg,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll)) > MakeCplusplusDLL(libname,solist,rev) > LinkBuildLibrary(Concat3(lib,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed > s=\\..*==).dll.a)) > LinkImportLibrary(Concat3(lib,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed > s=\\..*==).dll.a),LibraryTargetName(libname)) > LinkBuildDLL(Concat3(cyg,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll)) > > cleandir:: > RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll.a)) > RemoveFile(Concat3(cyg,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll)) > > # $XFree86: xc/config/cf/xfree86.cf,v 3.407 2002/09/24 02:55:00 tsi Exp $ > > # $Xorg: xfree86.cf,v 1.4 2000/08/17 19:41:49 cpqbld Exp $ Hm, The reference was added in cygwin.rules. The expanded macro was SharedDepCplusplusLibraryTarget. But the version in CVS has only one line with SharedDepCplusplusLibraryTarget. Maybe you're checked out version is garbled? Can you create the xmakefile with line information? imake -v should print the cpp command and adding -dN -dI and removing -P from that commandline should create an xmakefile with all line info and all defines in it. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
Hello again, I'm managing to take a couple of steps a day. One thing I stumbled across the other day is the startx command. I use this to work. I've noticed that my windows are not resizable and do not have scrollbars. Is there a better way to kickoff X? Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? Thanks, Frank
Re: XFree 4.2.1 + fontconfig-2
Alexander, > Is this from xc/Imakefile? Can you please post 10 lines above and below the > RemoveFile in the Makefile. Maybe I can get a clue where it is coming from. Actually, I think it is from xc/xmakefile, since the Makefile is static. I will do one better than posting a few lines: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xmakefile.bz2 However, below are the first few lines of the xmakefile... which contain the Concat3 call. Harold # Makefile generated by imake - do not edit! # $Xorg: imake.c,v 1.6 2001/02/09 02:03:15 xorgcvs Exp $ # -- # Makefile generated from "Imake.tmpl" and # $Xorg: Imake.tmpl,v 1.4 2000/08/17 19:41:46 cpqbld Exp $ # # # # # $XFree86: xc/config/cf/Imake.tmpl,v 3.129 2002/09/16 18:05:12 eich Exp $ # -- all:: .SUFFIXES: .i # $Xorg: Imake.cf,v 1.4 2000/08/17 19:41:45 cpqbld Exp $ # $XFree86: xc/config/cf/Imake.cf,v 3.78 2002/08/06 13:32:08 herrb Exp $ # --- # site-specific configuration parameters that need to come before # the platform-specific parameters - edit site.def to change # site: $TOG: site.sample /main/r64_final/1 1998/02/05 16:28:49 kaleb $ # site: $XFree86: xc/config/cf/site.def,v 3.25 2002/02/27 00:51:12 dawes Exp $ # $XFree86: xc/config/cf/xf86site.def,v 3.181 2002/02/22 21:32:33 dawes Exp $ # -- # platform-specific configuration parameters - edit cygwin.cf to change # platform: $XFree86: xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf,v 3.45 2002/10/01 14:31:36 alanh Exp $ # $XFree86: xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules,v 3.20 2002/10/01 14:31:36 alanh Exp $ Concat3(cyg,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll): deplist libname.def RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll.a)) RemoveFile(Concat3(cyg,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll)) MakeCplusplusDLL(libname,solist,rev) LinkBuildLibrary(Concat3(lib,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll.a)) LinkImportLibrary(Concat3(lib,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll.a),LibraryTargetName(libname)) LinkBuildDLL(Concat3(cyg,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll)) cleandir:: RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll.a)) RemoveFile(Concat3(cyg,libname,-$(shell echo rev|sed s=\\..*==).dll)) # $XFree86: xc/config/cf/xfree86.cf,v 3.407 2002/09/24 02:55:00 tsi Exp $ # $Xorg: xfree86.cf,v 1.4 2000/08/17 19:41:49 cpqbld Exp $ DRIVERSDKDIR = $(USRLIBDIR)/Server DRIVERSDKMODULEDIR = $(USRLIBDIR)/Server/modules DRIVERSDKINCLUDEDIR = $(USRLIBDIR)/Server/include
RE: XFree 4.2.1 + fontconfig-2
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Alan,
>
> Something is definitely borken:
>
> make[4]: Nothing to be done for `Makefiles'.
> make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross/doc/man/GLU'
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross/doc/man'
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross/doc'
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross'
> make -f xmakefile BOOTSTRAPSUBDIRS= clean
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross'
> RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,-rev.dll.a))
> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token
> `RemoveFile(Concat3('
> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: `RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,-rev.dll.a))'
Is this from xc/Imakefile? Can you please post 10 lines above and below the
RemoveFile in the Makefile. Maybe I can get a clue where it is coming from.
bye
ago
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Re: XFree 4.2.1 + fontconfig-2
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 11:01:37AM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Alan, > > Everytime I a build check I do something like the following: > > cd ../ [from foo/xc] > cd build > mkdir std > cd std > lndir ../../xc > /dev/null > make CROSSCOMPILEDIR="/cygwin/bin" World > World.log 2>&1 > > > Thus, I know for sure that any built file is being rebuilt :) > > Next idea? None. Like I said, I don't have a cross compile environment and it works fine natively. Alexander - any ideas ? Alan.
Re: XFree 4.2.1 + fontconfig-2
Alan,
Everytime I a build check I do something like the following:
cd ../ [from foo/xc]
cd build
mkdir std
cd std
lndir ../../xc > /dev/null
make CROSSCOMPILEDIR="/cygwin/bin" World > World.log 2>&1
Thus, I know for sure that any built file is being rebuilt :)
Next idea?
Harold
Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:45:00PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>
>>Alan,
>>
>>Something is definitely borken:
>>
>>make[4]: Nothing to be done for `Makefiles'.
>>make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross/doc/man/GLU'
>>make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross/doc/man'
>>make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross/doc'
>>make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross'
>>make -f xmakefile BOOTSTRAPSUBDIRS= clean
>>make[1]: Entering directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross'
>>RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,-rev.dll.a))
>>/bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token
>>`RemoveFile(Concat3('
>>/bin/sh: -c: line 1: `RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,-rev.dll.a))'
>>make[1]: *** [cleandir] Error 2
>>make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross'
>>make: *** [World] Error 2
>>
>>
>>What do you make of that?
>
>
> Well, RemoveFile should have been expanded in the 'xmakefile' - regardless
> of the Concat3() stuff.
>
> Check your xmakefile and do 'touch Imakefile;make Makefile'.
>
> See if that still isn't expanding, if it isn't I'll leave for Alexander
> to explain as I don't have a cross compilation environment setup.
>
> It certainly doesn't happen natively.
>
> Alan.
Re: RE Cygwin List posts
Geert, I don't know what you are trying to say here. My response to Jean-Claude was light-hearted (I said my dog was fine): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00279.html Ben responded to me throwing my hands in the air with a much more detailed account of his situation (notice that the message subject changed back to RH 7.3 from our off-list subject of Cygwin List Posts): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00280.html I then responded with some information that was probably helpful: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-09/msg00281.html After that there was no response, so I can only assume that the 1024x768x65535 was causing the problem (or his RedHat machine was not in runlevel 5). So Geert, I have misunderstood your postings before... what have I misunderstood this time? Harold Pille Geert (bizvdm) wrote: > I have learned from a reliable source, that Harold has (repeat: HAS) a pain > in the ass. Which sometimes explains a person's emotional reactions. But > one must admit that Ben did not help to ease the pain. > > -Original Message- > From: Jean-Claude Gervais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: woensdag 25 september 2002 21:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: RE Cygwin List posts > > > Having problems with your dog, Harold? ;-) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:16 PM > To: Benjamin Simmons > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE Cygwin List posts > > Ben, > > See, you aren't telling me what you have had success in doing. What do > you mean ``They all work fine''? Does that mean that you have > successfully done an XDMCP session, used ssh to display remote clients, > and used telnet to display remote clients? If so, then say exactly that. > > I'm not just going to ``elaborate'' about the wonderful things that you > can do with XDMCP and ssh --- I could write about them all day long. > You have to ask a specific question about precisely what it is that you > want to do. We cannot read your mind. Imagine for a moment that your > dog cannot walk and that I am a vet. If you come to me and say, ``my > dog has a broken leg, can you fix it?'', then I am very likely to help > you. If, on the other hand, you come to me and say, ``My dog needs to > [mumble mumble mumble]... can you tell me about the many things that > dogs can do?'', then I'm going to kick you out of my office. > > Harold > > P.S. - This is going back on [EMAIL PROTECTED] because it seems to > me like you are trying to waste my time since you are being vague about > both your questions and your answers. Don't reply to me personally, > only send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Benjamin Simmons wrote: > > >>thank you sir for your reply, >>at this point I would love to gain some further instruction on either > > option > >>you present. I have multiple RHLinux 7.2 boxes setup so that I can do your >>first option. They all work fine. I am having the difficulty in setting > > up > >>a RH Linux 7.3 box in the same manner. >> >>I did the things you discuss in the guide, and any further elaboration is >>greatly appreciated. >> >>Thank you, >>Ben Simmons >> >>Harold L Hunt II wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Ben, >>> >>>I have been reading the list and it looks to me like you asked the same >>>question over again. Rasjid gave you the same answer that I gave you >>>--- which defeats the purpose of writing a User's Guide, since I wrote >>>the User's Guide to explain this very question once and for all. >>> >>>You say that you need to connect to multiple machines. Is that the >>>specific part that you are having trouble with? Are you able to connect >>>to one machine at a time, but not to multiple machines at once? If so, >>>I can help you with that. >>> >>>Please be clear on whether you are trying to run a remote session via >>>XDMCP (where you are presented by a login box and one Cygwin/XFree86 >>>window is owned entirely by one remote machine) or whether you are >>>trying to display remote clients via ssh (in which case you can ssh to >>>multiple remote machines and have them all display X Clients in one >>>Cygwin/XFree86 window - or in multiple Cygwin/XFree86 windows). >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>Benjamin Simmons wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> If you had ben paying attention to the list today, you would have seen an excahnge between myself and Rasjid Wilcox. If you were paying attention to this exchange, you would have noticed that he has offered further details. I did read through what you sent me, and found it to cover exactly what I had already done. Since I had used your information, but felt that I needed further details, I responded to someone that was willing to provide them. If you are having a problem with my exchange on this topic, please feel free to ignore all further posts to this
Re: XFree 4.2.1 + fontconfig-2
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 12:39:04PM +0200, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > > Yes, then they are probably needed, so just check for me and I'll make > > the change. > > I've done a test run this morning. Without the ComplexProgramTarget_1 in > cygwin.rules it fails in programs/bitmap with "No rule for target bitmap found" > since the makefile looks like this. > PROGRAMS=bitmap ... > all: $(PROGRAMS) > bitmap.exe: ... > > With ComplexProgramTarget it builds succesfully. The Makefile is similar to this: > PROGRAMS=bitmap > all: $(foreach prog,$(PROGRAMS),prog.exe) > bitmap.exe: ... Then I'll put the #if CrossCompile in for this rule only. Thanks Alexander. Alan.
Re: XFree 4.2.1 + fontconfig-2
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > Yes, then they are probably needed, so just check for me and I'll make > the change. I've done a test run this morning. Without the ComplexProgramTarget_1 in cygwin.rules it fails in programs/bitmap with "No rule for target bitmap found" since the makefile looks like this. PROGRAMS=bitmap ... all: $(PROGRAMS) bitmap.exe: ... With ComplexProgramTarget it builds succesfully. The Makefile is similar to this: PROGRAMS=bitmap all: $(foreach prog,$(PROGRAMS),prog.exe) bitmap.exe: ... To remove the ComplexProgramTarget we either have to write all elementes of PROGRAMS as ProgramTarget(prog) or have ComplexTarget write a all:: ProgramTarget(prog) and remove the all: $(PROGRAMS) rule. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: XFree 4.2.1 + fontconfig-2
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:45:00PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Alan,
>
> Something is definitely borken:
>
> make[4]: Nothing to be done for `Makefiles'.
> make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross/doc/man/GLU'
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross/doc/man'
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross/doc'
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross'
> make -f xmakefile BOOTSTRAPSUBDIRS= clean
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross'
> RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,-rev.dll.a))
> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token
> `RemoveFile(Concat3('
> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: `RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,-rev.dll.a))'
> make[1]: *** [cleandir] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/cross'
> make: *** [World] Error 2
>
>
> What do you make of that?
Well, RemoveFile should have been expanded in the 'xmakefile' - regardless
of the Concat3() stuff.
Check your xmakefile and do 'touch Imakefile;make Makefile'.
See if that still isn't expanding, if it isn't I'll leave for Alexander
to explain as I don't have a cross compilation environment setup.
It certainly doesn't happen natively.
Alan.
RE: RE Cygwin List posts
I have learned from a reliable source, that Harold has (repeat: HAS) a pain in the ass. Which sometimes explains a person's emotional reactions. But one must admit that Ben did not help to ease the pain. -Original Message- From: Jean-Claude Gervais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: woensdag 25 september 2002 21:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE Cygwin List posts Having problems with your dog, Harold? ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:16 PM To: Benjamin Simmons Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE Cygwin List posts Ben, See, you aren't telling me what you have had success in doing. What do you mean ``They all work fine''? Does that mean that you have successfully done an XDMCP session, used ssh to display remote clients, and used telnet to display remote clients? If so, then say exactly that. I'm not just going to ``elaborate'' about the wonderful things that you can do with XDMCP and ssh --- I could write about them all day long. You have to ask a specific question about precisely what it is that you want to do. We cannot read your mind. Imagine for a moment that your dog cannot walk and that I am a vet. If you come to me and say, ``my dog has a broken leg, can you fix it?'', then I am very likely to help you. If, on the other hand, you come to me and say, ``My dog needs to [mumble mumble mumble]... can you tell me about the many things that dogs can do?'', then I'm going to kick you out of my office. Harold P.S. - This is going back on [EMAIL PROTECTED] because it seems to me like you are trying to waste my time since you are being vague about both your questions and your answers. Don't reply to me personally, only send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Benjamin Simmons wrote: >thank you sir for your reply, >at this point I would love to gain some further instruction on either option >you present. I have multiple RHLinux 7.2 boxes setup so that I can do your >first option. They all work fine. I am having the difficulty in setting up >a RH Linux 7.3 box in the same manner. > >I did the things you discuss in the guide, and any further elaboration is >greatly appreciated. > >Thank you, >Ben Simmons > >Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > >>Ben, >> >>I have been reading the list and it looks to me like you asked the same >>question over again. Rasjid gave you the same answer that I gave you >>--- which defeats the purpose of writing a User's Guide, since I wrote >>the User's Guide to explain this very question once and for all. >> >>You say that you need to connect to multiple machines. Is that the >>specific part that you are having trouble with? Are you able to connect >>to one machine at a time, but not to multiple machines at once? If so, >>I can help you with that. >> >>Please be clear on whether you are trying to run a remote session via >>XDMCP (where you are presented by a login box and one Cygwin/XFree86 >>window is owned entirely by one remote machine) or whether you are >>trying to display remote clients via ssh (in which case you can ssh to >>multiple remote machines and have them all display X Clients in one >>Cygwin/XFree86 window - or in multiple Cygwin/XFree86 windows). >> >>Harold >> >>Benjamin Simmons wrote: >> >> >> >>>If you had ben paying attention to the list today, you would have seen >>>an excahnge between myself and Rasjid Wilcox. >>> >>>If you were paying attention to this exchange, you would have noticed >>>that he has offered further details. >>> >>>I did read through what you sent me, and found it to cover exactly what >>>I had already done. Since I had used your information, but felt that I >>>needed further details, I responded to someone that was willing to >>>provide them. >>> >>>If you are having a problem with my exchange on this topic, please feel >>>free to ignore all further posts to this message, otherwise, I would >>>like to personally thank you for your assistance. I have gotten >>>frustrated with my inability to connect the final piece of this puzzle. >>> >>>To clarify, I do work for and am a student at The University of >>>Memphis. I am currently performing research and need to access multiple >>>linux machines remotely to complete my dissertation. >>> >>>Thank you again for your help, >>>Ben Simmons >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > === This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached.
