Re: XDMCP
It looks like the unix login is happening. What's in ~/.xsession-errors? PapaFox - Original Message - From: David Calkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: XDMCP I'm trying to connect up to a machine at work using XDMCP. My home machine is Win2k + Cygwin + XFree86. I made sure to use the cygwin setup program to get the latest packages. I'm using the -query option to do this, i.e. XWin -depth 32 -engine 4 -fullscreen -refresh 85 -screen 0 1024 768 -query $remotehost I get the login screen, enter my username and password and attempt to login. For some reason, I just get bounced back to the login screen again. I've been unable to get this to work. Any ideas as to what could cause this?
Re: xwinclip test 6 hacked to leave selection untouched
Hi, I'm curious has it been forgotten that I already fixed the selection grabbing over two months ago? Either way the latest code does the clipboard chain stuff and handles multiple windows ( -screen option), and some wierd bug were it doesn't free the dll properly. I can't get it to link properly on gcc 3.2. The problem being the -mno_cygwin option doesn't seem to work. The dll must be without cygwin1.dll given that as a default it is not placed inside ?:\windows\system. Maybe this is a point for another list. If the latest code is wanted I'll post it, I'm pretty much finished with what I want to do with it. I can't for example see the point in spending much more time on it if it never get's included. Chris _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link
I think you are looking for $HOME/.xserverrc file. E.g. mine contains: #! /bin/sh X -nowinkill -nodecoration -lesspointer -rootless BTW, this all seems to be documented in xinit man page, as pointed out by Thomas. Pavel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Thomas, The thing is, no matter what I put in those files, it either starts XWin with a border, or not at all. And when I do get it to start up, there is always a console mode window hanging around until I close it, and that closes XWin... *sigh* I AM trying to understand how all this stuff fits together, but I'm not having very much luck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link RTFM! Do man xinit from the Cygwin command-line and read the 1st 3 paragraphs. From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:08:07 -0500 Thanks Artur, But that's not quite the info I was looking for; You see, when I type startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, I get a DIFFERENT result than from starting xinit by itself. Yet, xinit does start XWin, only it is starting it in windowed mode... Which is OK, but I'm just wondering WHERE does xinit get this from? Is it executing a script? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Artur Hefczyc Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link What parameters does it use to start XWin? Where does it get the parameters? You can find manual and parameters for XWin from command: man XWin Is it executing a script? /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh Artur Hefczyc -- Artur Hefczyc http://wttools.sf.net/ _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: X11 and Heavy loadbalancing?
I *think* I understand what Jack is trying to do. The normal term for what he is attempting is host integration. This is where host-based applications are integrated into web-based applications. The most common example of this is the IBM product Host On Demand. The obvious way to do host integration with X Windows is to use the same approach as HOD. Use a java applet implementation of X (WeirdX) and place the applet in a web page. This approach has the same problem as HOD - a very heavy applet download. PapaFox Hmm, I think the Enduser should not use an Applet to use X-via Web. A More efficient Way is an normal Java Desktop-Application that can be autoupdated via the Webstartfeature (in JDK 1.4.0 Standandard allready involved) The original Projectplan was based on my Idea, to construct up an easy to use Free-Software CrossPlatform alternative against the commercial CITRIX / MS-Windows Terminalserver dominated Environment for Endcustomers with the Security of SSH and Highavaiability on Serverside (Disk I/O, Logon-Speed, Failoverc, Enterprisefeatures) On my Ressearche i have found: 1.An Applicationserver such as (commercial) Oracle 9iAS or JBoss (free) (J2EE 1.2-Compliant) brings up an scalable faulttolerant, scalable, highavaiabil Framework for Servercontainers. (Such as E-Mail, HTTP, SOAP, SMTP, POP3, Faxserver, X11, Filerserver and so on) 2. The ORACLE J2EE compliant Applicationserver has implemented a lot of this Features (called as CollaborationSuite) and all Servercontainers like E-mail server can be simply checked into the runnign AppServer (for Example: java -jar ./myOnwnSMTPServer.jar) (it detects and installs the new J2EE Container automatically, by the Path of an XML-Installdefinitionfile) 3. The J2EE-Appserver Certificationprocess at SUN Microsystems restrict propritary Extensions to an J2EE Appllicationservers to enforce compatibility to the Java Enterprise Standard (J2EE ServerContainers can also run on JBoss (the OpenSource Applicationserver) 4. Java is Platform Independant and has rolebased Security Conecepts, it is working on every Environment, all J2EE ServerContainers can use this Features, the only things to do is, writing, code for the Serverside Support of XFree to Support Java X-Clients like Weired. 5. An other Critical Position is the Disk I/O-Traffic and the RAM usage by every User thadt runs Hugh Applications on Serverside like OpenOffice, WINE and so on. (ps: i know thadt the Displayresults is only worked out by the X-Clients, ok?) 6. To solve the Problem for Disk I/O and RAM Usage, a Databasedrivven Filesystem is a Powerfull choice (like the ORACLE Internetfilesystems IFS). (Note: Microsoft implements MS-SQL-Serverfeatures in to the Windows NTFS6-Filesystem, but Oracle has this Feature over 2 Years ago on the Market and has spend its Sourcecode to the OpenSource Comunity under the Terms of the GPL) Ok, it is a big Project and a lot of Work to implement/configure a more advanced Solution as Microsoft/Citrix-Metaframe, but a great Challenge. Greetings from Germany, Jack
Re: XDMCP
I had the same problem some time ago and the solution was to start a font server on one of the HP-UX machines and the use that font server when connecting to any of the HP-UX machines. I also tried to copy all the needed fonts locally, bu I failed: I copied 60Mb of fonts from any directory with fonts but, for some reason, the connection stopped after the login. Ciao, Danilo Turina David Calkins wrote: I'm trying to connect up to a machine at work using XDMCP. My home machine is Win2k + Cygwin + XFree86. I made sure to use the cygwin setup program to get the latest packages. I'm using the -query option to do this, i.e. XWin -depth 32 -engine 4 -fullscreen -refresh 85 -screen 0 1024 768 -query $remotehost I get the login screen, enter my username and password and attempt to login. For some reason, I just get bounced back to the login screen again. I've been unable to get this to work. Any ideas as to what could cause this?
RE: Preventing X server resets
-Original Message- From: Harold L Hunt II [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Preventing X server resets Peter, Let me rephrase your question and ask you if it makes sense: ``If I am talking on the phone to my mother and she unplugs her phone, can I just continue talking to her?'' Yes, but if Dad is on the other extension at the same time I would expect to be able to continue talking to him :-) Perhaps I wasn't clear in my question. I know that if a machine is rebooted then any X clients running on it will be lost. As an aside, I also know that if a machine running an X server is rebooted then the server is lost, and there's typically no way to tell the clients where to reconnect to; the RandR extension will apparently change this in the future. However, I have X clients running on many machines and all displaying on the same server. If most of these hosts go down then the clients on that host are lost, but the X server keeps running and the other clients are unaffected. If the host I logged into with XDMCP goes down, the X server resets and kicks off all the other clients which are otherwise fine. It's this behavior that I wish to avoid. The answer is no. You have established a connection with a server that is supposed to manage your X session... if that server fails, or if the connection to it is unreliable, then you X Session is terminated. Unfortunately, the way the system is designed is that applications you launch from your X session are managed by the remote XDMCP machine... if that machine goes down there is no way to transfer control of those applications to another machine. I don't believe that this is true. As I understand it, X11 clients connect directly to the X11 server. Checking with netstat, I see that there are no connections between the host that I logged into with XDMCP and another host running an xterm. I know that what I asked is possible in general, since an X server called PC-Xware does it. When XDMCP goes away it asks something like Your XDM session has ended. Would you like to reset the X server?, and if you say no you can just carry on working. I hoped that I'd be able to do the same thing with XFree86. 3) If you can't do anything about the machine or the network, then you need to adjust your quality-of-service expectations. Perhaps this is the best suggestion. I can usually run a session for weeks or months without incident, so perhaps I'm asking too much :-) Alternatively, it occurs to me that I could start my session using rlogin rather than XDMCP. Fiddly, but it should do the trick. -- Peter Oliver Midrange Services Aquila Networks Services Ltd Confidentiality: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, use of this information (including disclosure, copying or distribution) may be unlawful. Please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the message immediately. Security: Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. Viruses: This e-mail (and any attachments) has been checked (using Sophos Sweep 3.58 + patches) and found to be clean from any virus infection before leaving. Therefore neither Aquila Networks Services Ltd nor Midlands Electricity plc or any of their group undertakings (as defined by the Companies Act 1989) (together referred to as the Companies) accept legal responsibility for this message or liability for the consequences of any computer viruses which may have been transmitted by this e-mail. Monitoring: All electronic communications with the Companies may be monitored in accordance with the UK Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, Lawful Business Practice Regulations, 2000. If you do not consent to such monitoring, you should contact the sender of this e-mail. Aquila Networks Services Limited, Registered office: Whittington Hall, Whittington, Worcester, WR5 2RB Registered in England and Wales number 3600545 This e-mail may be sent on behalf of any of the Companies.
Re: xwinclip test 6 hacked to leave selection untouched
Chris, From what I understand, you are grabbing ownership of the selection when Cygwin/XFree86 loses focus... that is not the correct solution, as other X Server on Windows implementations out there (not to name any names) are able to watch the X selection without taking ownership of it ever. It sounds likes we need to watch the selection on the root window, rather than stealing it for our own. If you did this, then I misunderstood what you were trying to say. However, I doubt that you did this because grabbing ownership of the selection when we lose focus would be unnecessary. I wait until a solution looks clean before I do anything with it, and stealing ownership on losing focus didn't look like much of a solution. Harold Chris Twiner wrote: Hi, I'm curious has it been forgotten that I already fixed the selection grabbing over two months ago? Either way the latest code does the clipboard chain stuff and handles multiple windows ( -screen option), and some wierd bug were it doesn't free the dll properly. I can't get it to link properly on gcc 3.2. The problem being the -mno_cygwin option doesn't seem to work. The dll must be without cygwin1.dll given that as a default it is not placed inside ?:\windows\system. Maybe this is a point for another list. If the latest code is wanted I'll post it, I'm pretty much finished with what I want to do with it. I can't for example see the point in spending much more time on it if it never get's included. Chris _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Preventing X server resets
Peter, So, if you knew that this was possible with another product, then why did you bother asking us if it was possible only to make us look like chumps when we said it wasn't? Now I suppose we will look into it at some point in the future. Harold Oliver, Peter wrote: -Original Message- From: Harold L Hunt II [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Preventing X server resets Peter, Let me rephrase your question and ask you if it makes sense: ``If I am talking on the phone to my mother and she unplugs her phone, can I just continue talking to her?'' Yes, but if Dad is on the other extension at the same time I would expect to be able to continue talking to him :-) Perhaps I wasn't clear in my question. I know that if a machine is rebooted then any X clients running on it will be lost. As an aside, I also know that if a machine running an X server is rebooted then the server is lost, and there's typically no way to tell the clients where to reconnect to; the RandR extension will apparently change this in the future. However, I have X clients running on many machines and all displaying on the same server. If most of these hosts go down then the clients on that host are lost, but the X server keeps running and the other clients are unaffected. If the host I logged into with XDMCP goes down, the X server resets and kicks off all the other clients which are otherwise fine. It's this behavior that I wish to avoid. The answer is no. You have established a connection with a server that is supposed to manage your X session... if that server fails, or if the connection to it is unreliable, then you X Session is terminated. Unfortunately, the way the system is designed is that applications you launch from your X session are managed by the remote XDMCP machine... if that machine goes down there is no way to transfer control of those applications to another machine. I don't believe that this is true. As I understand it, X11 clients connect directly to the X11 server. Checking with netstat, I see that there are no connections between the host that I logged into with XDMCP and another host running an xterm. I know that what I asked is possible in general, since an X server called PC-Xware does it. When XDMCP goes away it asks something like Your XDM session has ended. Would you like to reset the X server?, and if you say no you can just carry on working. I hoped that I'd be able to do the same thing with XFree86. 3) If you can't do anything about the machine or the network, then you need to adjust your quality-of-service expectations. Perhaps this is the best suggestion. I can usually run a session for weeks or months without incident, so perhaps I'm asking too much :-) Alternatively, it occurs to me that I could start my session using rlogin rather than XDMCP. Fiddly, but it should do the trick.
Re: xwinclip test 6 hacked to leave selection untouched
Hi Harold, From what I understand, you are grabbing ownership of the selection when Cygwin/XFree86 loses focus... that is not the correct solution, Nope, it only grabs X selection when both the windows clipboard has changed (in latest code) and any cygwin/xfree86 class window is activated. I.e. it won't grab it if a user moves from one cygwin/xfree86 to another. When the cygwin/xfree86 looses focus it first looks for XA_PRIMARY and then XA_SECONDARY and then clipboard, not that the clipboard code works with motif apps. The basic one window code (no clipboard chain) was there two months ago and posted to the group. I.e. it fixed what was broken in test6 and fixed again by the recent poster. as other X Server on Windows implementations out there (not to name any names) are able to watch the X selection without taking ownership of it ever. Which was the whole point of my fixes, you yourself claimed you could not see what was wrong with test6 prove to me with code was your response. So I did, you said great it looks like it works, thanks for the contributions I'll put it into a new test release, however you were busy and it would take a while. Which from the level of involvement you have with cygwin was all too reasonable. It sounds likes we need to watch the selection on the root window, rather than stealing it for our own. If you did this, then I misunderstood what you were trying to say. However, I doubt that you did this because grabbing ownership of the selection when we lose focus would be unnecessary. Indeed I did. It never grabbed the selection when the focus was lost, only when the window was activated again. i.e. you have gone into windows and the clipboard is different so grab the windows clipboard. The current version only does this when the clipboard has changed (And across -screen's). I had tried to explain this before (as had other posters) but you didn't see anything was wrong, so I made it work in a consistent fashion with windows and most x servers and so it wouldn't break nedit (main motivation). I wait until a solution looks clean before I do anything with it, and stealing ownership on losing focus didn't look like much of a solution. Again it was only on gaining of activation, and you didn't at the time see anything was wrong with the test6 code. You had wanted it external when you mentioned this (or internal with a disabling switch). My solution was designed from the outset not to intefere with the inner workings of the xserver and to be within the X selection system, something that commercial solutions obviously aren't limited by. Chris _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: xwinclip test 6 hacked to leave selection untouched
Chris, Well, if you solution is everthing you claim, then you certainly have not been promoting it correctly. The impression I have gathered is that it requires hooks to watch messages for the XWin.exe windows, whereas today's solution does not require such hooks. I have really been waiting for a solution that does not require such hooks. If your solution no longer requires such hooks, then you did a poor job of communicating that fact. Harold Chris Twiner wrote: Hi Harold, From what I understand, you are grabbing ownership of the selection when Cygwin/XFree86 loses focus... that is not the correct solution, Nope, it only grabs X selection when both the windows clipboard has changed (in latest code) and any cygwin/xfree86 class window is activated. I.e. it won't grab it if a user moves from one cygwin/xfree86 to another. When the cygwin/xfree86 looses focus it first looks for XA_PRIMARY and then XA_SECONDARY and then clipboard, not that the clipboard code works with motif apps. The basic one window code (no clipboard chain) was there two months ago and posted to the group. I.e. it fixed what was broken in test6 and fixed again by the recent poster. as other X Server on Windows implementations out there (not to name any names) are able to watch the X selection without taking ownership of it ever. Which was the whole point of my fixes, you yourself claimed you could not see what was wrong with test6 prove to me with code was your response. So I did, you said great it looks like it works, thanks for the contributions I'll put it into a new test release, however you were busy and it would take a while. Which from the level of involvement you have with cygwin was all too reasonable. It sounds likes we need to watch the selection on the root window, rather than stealing it for our own. If you did this, then I misunderstood what you were trying to say. However, I doubt that you did this because grabbing ownership of the selection when we lose focus would be unnecessary. Indeed I did. It never grabbed the selection when the focus was lost, only when the window was activated again. i.e. you have gone into windows and the clipboard is different so grab the windows clipboard. The current version only does this when the clipboard has changed (And across -screen's). I had tried to explain this before (as had other posters) but you didn't see anything was wrong, so I made it work in a consistent fashion with windows and most x servers and so it wouldn't break nedit (main motivation). I wait until a solution looks clean before I do anything with it, and stealing ownership on losing focus didn't look like much of a solution. Again it was only on gaining of activation, and you didn't at the time see anything was wrong with the test6 code. You had wanted it external when you mentioned this (or internal with a disabling switch). My solution was designed from the outset not to intefere with the inner workings of the xserver and to be within the X selection system, something that commercial solutions obviously aren't limited by. Chris _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: Preventing X server resets
if a machine running an X server is rebooted then the server is lost, and there's typically no way to tell the clients where to reconnect to Isn't that what xmove does?
Re: xwinclip test 6 hacked to leave selection untouched
Well, if you solution is everthing you claim, then you certainly have not been promoting it correctly. It's my fault that you have forgotten it? I don't thinks so. If you did not want to use it then you should have said a long time ago before I wasted days on it. The impression I have gathered is that it requires hooks to watch messages for the XWin.exe windows, whereas today's solution does not require such hooks. I have really been waiting for a solution that does not require such hooks. If your solution no longer requires such hooks, then you did a poor job of communicating that fact. Nothing has changed about it using hooks. Nothing at all. If his solution does work/ not had time to try it out. Then at least the jmp's and signal handling should still be of some use. Also : https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/xdg-list/2000-October/05.html And the reading I did whilst creating the changes would indicate this only happens for applications that explicitly choose it too. Motif apps don't either it would seem. Chris _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link
xinit does 2 things - it launches the X server and then one or more X clients. If you want to customize the X client part (including the Window Manager), create/modify/edit the file $HOME/.xinitrc. If you want to customize the X server part, create/modify/edit the file $HOME/.xserverrc. Alternatively, you can pass command-line options to the X server by specifying them on xinit's command-line after --. For example, xinit -- -rootless will cause XWin to startup in rootless mode. As for the console window, there is no way to avoid it being there until xinit completes, which doesn't happen until after the X server shuts down. This is really no different than if you use a Windows batchfile to fire up XWin and one or more local X clients. It's a necessary evil. From: Pavel Holejsovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:10:40 +0100 I think you are looking for $HOME/.xserverrc file. E.g. mine contains: #! /bin/sh X -nowinkill -nodecoration -lesspointer -rootless BTW, this all seems to be documented in xinit man page, as pointed out by Thomas. Pavel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Thomas, The thing is, no matter what I put in those files, it either starts XWin with a border, or not at all. And when I do get it to start up, there is always a console mode window hanging around until I close it, and that closes XWin... *sigh* I AM trying to understand how all this stuff fits together, but I'm not having very much luck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link RTFM! Do man xinit from the Cygwin command-line and read the 1st 3 paragraphs. From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:08:07 -0500 Thanks Artur, But that's not quite the info I was looking for; You see, when I type startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, I get a DIFFERENT result than from starting xinit by itself. Yet, xinit does start XWin, only it is starting it in windowed mode... Which is OK, but I'm just wondering WHERE does xinit get this from? Is it executing a script? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Artur Hefczyc Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link What parameters does it use to start XWin? Where does it get the parameters? You can find manual and parameters for XWin from command: man XWin Is it executing a script? /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh Artur Hefczyc -- Artur Hefczyc http://wttools.sf.net/ _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: Cygwin XFre86 - Redhat XDM login
I'll check gdm. I know hosts.allow is set up right. I can telnet, FTP, SSH, HTTP, SWAT, et.c to the Linux box. I have commented out the last line .../xdm/xdm.conf and modified the .../xdm/Xaccess file. BTW, I didn't mean to put down XFree86 in any way. It is a great product. Folks have put a lot of effort int it. I'm just gtying to resolve this one issue. Thanks, Steven On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:48:50 -0800 (PST) Lars Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen, Are you sure you are running xdm and not gdm. If you're running the latter, then you need to edit gdm.conf to enable xdmcp. If you're running the former, I assume that xdm.conf must be edited the same way. Also check that your hosts.allow allows connections from the remote machine. Lars. -- Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen Tel: 775.673.7113 FAX: 775.674.7592 -- ___ ((__O\ (___ \ Don't get rattled by Steven Whatley \ \_(___)\O\_/O___- what I say. It's just [EMAIL PROTECTED] \O)\___/my opinion.
Re: xwinclip test 6 hacked to leave selection untouched
Robert, In an intial test of your patch, I noticed that your patch, after the first selection, only tends to grab every other selection that I make on both the Windows clipboard and the X clipboard. For example, I go into emacs under X and select a region, then I go to emacs under Windows and paste the selection with the middle mouse button; the first time it works fine; now I select some text in emacs under Windows (which causes the selection in emacs under X to be unhighlighted) and go to paste it in emacs under X, but instead of getting the new selection coming from emacs under Windows I instead get the same old selection from emacs under X. Now, if I go back to emacs under Windows and select something else, then when I go to emacs under X it pastes the correct selection. This process repeats and it always seems that every-other selection is gotten but that the ones in between are never picked up. Any ideas? Harold
beinnner frustration ...
okay, i've read the user manual and the FAQ and still can't figure out how to get started ... please feel free to tell me to RTFM, but please oh please help me figure out WHAT and WHERE to read :-) anyway, i installed xfree86/cygwin and i have an icon on my windows desktop to prove it ... how the heck do i connect to the linux box on my network, and login with one of my linux usernames, and run X on my windows box? i hate to feel stupid ... someone PLEASE point me in the direction of a document i can understand. thanks, kenn
Re: beinnner frustration ...
Kenn, You must have missed the most relevant section of the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html Harold Kenn Murrah wrote: okay, i've read the user manual and the FAQ and still can't figure out how to get started ... please feel free to tell me to RTFM, but please oh please help me figure out WHAT and WHERE to read :-) anyway, i installed xfree86/cygwin and i have an icon on my windows desktop to prove it ... how the heck do i connect to the linux box on my network, and login with one of my linux usernames, and run X on my windows box? i hate to feel stupid ... someone PLEASE point me in the direction of a document i can understand. thanks, kenn
Re: beinnner frustration ...
no, i found that section, but was confused by it (sorry!) ... it looked like a linux-style syntax, so i tried entering it at the $ prompt in cygwin ... but it could not find the program ... so i tried to find that program as a windows command (such as the .exe extension would indicate) and i couldn't find that, either ... a search of the windows box turned up no programs named xwin.exe ... so there's no telling what i've done (or failed to do) any ideas? - Original Message - From: Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: beinnner frustration ... Kenn, You must have missed the most relevant section of the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html Harold Kenn Murrah wrote: okay, i've read the user manual and the FAQ and still can't figure out how to get started ... please feel free to tell me to RTFM, but please oh please help me figure out WHAT and WHERE to read :-) anyway, i installed xfree86/cygwin and i have an icon on my windows desktop to prove it ... how the heck do i connect to the linux box on my network, and login with one of my linux usernames, and run X on my windows box? i hate to feel stupid ... someone PLEASE point me in the direction of a document i can understand. thanks, kenn
Re: beinnner frustration ...
Kenn, You have not installed Cygwin/XFree86. You need to run Cygwin's setup.exe again (you do not need to uninstall Cygwin, setup is smart enough to download only the new packages), and you need to be sure to expand the XFree86 category and select the XFree86-base package. You can then start Cygwin/XFree86 by double-clicking the startxwin.bat file that should reside in c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat. After you have that working, you can make a copy of startxwin.bat, being sure to leave it in c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin, REM out the lines that start xterm, twm, and xsetroot, then change add the -query parameter to the line that starts XWin.exe, as described in the user's guide. Harold Kenn Murrah wrote: no, i found that section, but was confused by it (sorry!) ... it looked like a linux-style syntax, so i tried entering it at the $ prompt in cygwin ... but it could not find the program ... so i tried to find that program as a windows command (such as the .exe extension would indicate) and i couldn't find that, either ... a search of the windows box turned up no programs named xwin.exe ... so there's no telling what i've done (or failed to do) any ideas? - Original Message - From: Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: beinnner frustration ... Kenn, You must have missed the most relevant section of the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html Harold Kenn Murrah wrote: okay, i've read the user manual and the FAQ and still can't figure out how to get started ... please feel free to tell me to RTFM, but please oh please help me figure out WHAT and WHERE to read :-) anyway, i installed xfree86/cygwin and i have an icon on my windows desktop to prove it ... how the heck do i connect to the linux box on my network, and login with one of my linux usernames, and run X on my windows box? i hate to feel stupid ... someone PLEASE point me in the direction of a document i can understand. thanks, kenn
Re: beinnner frustration ...
Harold: I'm doing that now ... thanks for getting me pointed in the right direction. kennM - Original Message - From: Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:39 PM Subject: Re: beinnner frustration ... Kenn, You have not installed Cygwin/XFree86. You need to run Cygwin's setup.exe again (you do not need to uninstall Cygwin, setup is smart enough to download only the new packages), and you need to be sure to expand the XFree86 category and select the XFree86-base package. You can then start Cygwin/XFree86 by double-clicking the startxwin.bat file that should reside in c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat. After you have that working, you can make a copy of startxwin.bat, being sure to leave it in c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin, REM out the lines that start xterm, twm, and xsetroot, then change add the -query parameter to the line that starts XWin.exe, as described in the user's guide. Harold Kenn Murrah wrote: no, i found that section, but was confused by it (sorry!) ... it looked like a linux-style syntax, so i tried entering it at the $ prompt in cygwin ... but it could not find the program ... so i tried to find that program as a windows command (such as the .exe extension would indicate) and i couldn't find that, either ... a search of the windows box turned up no programs named xwin.exe ... so there's no telling what i've done (or failed to do) any ideas? - Original Message - From: Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: beinnner frustration ... Kenn, You must have missed the most relevant section of the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html Harold Kenn Murrah wrote: okay, i've read the user manual and the FAQ and still can't figure out how to get started ... please feel free to tell me to RTFM, but please oh please help me figure out WHAT and WHERE to read :-) anyway, i installed xfree86/cygwin and i have an icon on my windows desktop to prove it ... how the heck do i connect to the linux box on my network, and login with one of my linux usernames, and run X on my windows box? i hate to feel stupid ... someone PLEASE point me in the direction of a document i can understand. thanks, kenn
Re: [xfree] Re: Cygwin XFre86 - Redhat XDM login
Hi all, I must not have been doing a 'kill -1' on the right process. Rebooting the RH server got the login screen coming up. But now, it exits back to the login screen when I try to login. I am getting a 'Can't open display' message in my RH account ~/.xsession-errors file. I am now looking at the recent XDMCP thread. I am very close now. There seems to be a xhost command missing somewhere. Thanks, Steven On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Papa Fox wrote: Have you enabled XDMCP over internet? Depending on whether you are running XDM, KDM or GDM, check /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config Comment out the appropriate line /etc/X11/xdm/kdmrcSet Enable=true for [Xdmcp] /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf You may also have to alter you firewall rules to allow UDP packets to port 177. PapaFox - Original Message - From: Steven Whatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:20 PM Subject: Cygwin XFre86 - Redhat XDM login Hi all, I've been reading man pages, FAQs, and everything I can think of under Cygwin, RedHat 7.1, and the XFree86 web site. I have been trying to figure this out off and on for months. However, I can not figure out how to run an XFree86 session under Cygwin on my WinXP Pro system to get a login session on my RH 7.1 system. I have played with the files in /etc/X11/xdm on the RH system. I played with XWin, xinit, and startx with -queue host and -broadcast options under cygwin. All I get on the Cygwin side is no X11 window at all or a blank checkered default pattern X11 window. I do not seem to be getting any error messages besides Giving up. I've been dealing with X11 for over 10 yers. But this XFree86 stuff is causing me to pull out my hair! BTW, XDM is running fine on the RH box and Gnome comes up just fine. I just don't keep a monitor attached to the system and the system is in another room. Any help to figure out what I am doing wrong will be really appreciated. Thanks! Steven :) -- trying to keep a happy face. -- ___ ((__O\ (___ \ Don't get rattled by Steven Whatley \ \_(___)\O\_/O___- what I say. It's just [EMAIL PROTECTED] \O)\___/my opinion.
Re: XDMCP
The error I am getting in the ~/.xsessoin-errors is: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 Thanks, Steven From: Papa Fox papafox888 at hotmail dot com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:23:17 +1100 Subject: Re: XDMCP It looks like the unix login is happening. What's in ~/.xsession-errors? PapaFox - Original Message - From: David Calkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: XDMCP I'm trying to connect up to a machine at work using XDMCP. My home machine is Win2k + Cygwin + XFree86. I made sure to use the cygwin setup program to get the latest packages. I'm using the -query option to do this, i.e. XWin -depth 32 -engine 4 -fullscreen -refresh 85 -screen 0 1024 768 -query $remotehost I get the login screen, enter my username and password and attempt to login. For some reason, I just get bounced back to the login screen again. I've been unable to get this to work. Any ideas as to what could cause this?
Fwd: Re: XDMCP
I'm seeing the following in /tmp/XWin.log AUDIT: Mon Nov 18 22:22:19 2002: 5924 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP WORKMACHINEIP port 3468 I get a bunch of the above messages in my XWin.log. Sounds like we're both having problems with convincing the X server that we do, in fact, want to allow connections from the work machine. I tried using xhost, but it just hangs if I run it while my X server is running (with the -query option). Anyone know how else I can tell my X server to trust a remote host? Dave Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://sources.redhat.com/ml/#faqs Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:54:52 -0600 (CST) From: Steven Whatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XDMCP The error I am getting in the ~/.xsessoin-errors is: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 Thanks, Steven From: Papa Fox papafox888 at hotmail dot com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:23:17 +1100 Subject: Re: XDMCP It looks like the unix login is happening. What's in ~/.xsession-errors? PapaFox - Original Message - From: David Calkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: XDMCP I'm trying to connect up to a machine at work using XDMCP. My home machine is Win2k + Cygwin + XFree86. I made sure to use the cygwin setup program to get the latest packages. I'm using the -query option to do this, i.e. XWin -depth 32 -engine 4 -fullscreen -refresh 85 -screen 0 1024 768 -query $remotehost I get the login screen, enter my username and password and attempt to login. For some reason, I just get bounced back to the login screen again. I've been unable to get this to work. Any ideas as to what could cause this?
Fwd: Re: XDMCP
Well, tried it again to make sure, and if I run XWin *without* the -query option, I can set my DISPLAY to 127.0.0.1:0.0 and then run xhost and it (xhost) works. If I then connect via the VPN to my work's intranet, and then run XWin *with* the -query option, xhost now hangs... argh! I think I'm *very* close to having this work. I just need to convince X to allow my work machine to connect back to my home machine.. Dave I'm seeing the following in /tmp/XWin.log AUDIT: Mon Nov 18 22:22:19 2002: 5924 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP WORKMACHINEIP port 3468 I get a bunch of the above messages in my XWin.log. Sounds like we're both having problems with convincing the X server that we do, in fact, want to allow connections from the work machine. I tried using xhost, but it just hangs if I run it while my X server is running (with the -query option). Anyone know how else I can tell my X server to trust a remote host? Dave Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://sources.redhat.com/ml/#faqs Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:54:52 -0600 (CST) From: Steven Whatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XDMCP The error I am getting in the ~/.xsessoin-errors is: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 Thanks, Steven From: Papa Fox papafox888 at hotmail dot com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:23:17 +1100 Subject: Re: XDMCP It looks like the unix login is happening. What's in ~/.xsession-errors? PapaFox - Original Message - From: David Calkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: XDMCP I'm trying to connect up to a machine at work using XDMCP. My home machine is Win2k + Cygwin + XFree86. I made sure to use the cygwin setup program to get the latest packages. I'm using the -query option to do this, i.e. XWin -depth 32 -engine 4 -fullscreen -refresh 85 -screen 0 1024 768 -query $remotehost I get the login screen, enter my username and password and attempt to login. For some reason, I just get bounced back to the login screen again. I've been unable to get this to work. Any ideas as to what could cause this?
Re: [xfree] Fwd: Re: XDMCP
Have you modified Cygwin's /etc/hsots.allow and /etc/hosts.deny files? I'm trying this but no go yet. Later, Steven On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, David Calkins wrote: Well, tried it again to make sure, and if I run XWin *without* the -query option, I can set my DISPLAY to 127.0.0.1:0.0 and then run xhost and it (xhost) works. If I then connect via the VPN to my work's intranet, and then run XWin *with* the -query option, xhost now hangs... argh! I think I'm *very* close to having this work. I just need to convince X to allow my work machine to connect back to my home machine.. Dave I'm seeing the following in /tmp/XWin.log AUDIT: Mon Nov 18 22:22:19 2002: 5924 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP WORKMACHINEIP port 3468 I get a bunch of the above messages in my XWin.log. Sounds like we're both having problems with convincing the X server that we do, in fact, want to allow connections from the work machine. I tried using xhost, but it just hangs if I run it while my X server is running (with the -query option). Anyone know how else I can tell my X server to trust a remote host? Dave Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://sources.redhat.com/ml/#faqs Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:54:52 -0600 (CST) From: Steven Whatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XDMCP The error I am getting in the ~/.xsessoin-errors is: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 Thanks, Steven From: Papa Fox papafox888 at hotmail dot com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:23:17 +1100 Subject: Re: XDMCP It looks like the unix login is happening. What's in ~/.xsession-errors? PapaFox - Original Message - From: David Calkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: XDMCP I'm trying to connect up to a machine at work using XDMCP. My home machine is Win2k + Cygwin + XFree86. I made sure to use the cygwin setup program to get the latest packages. I'm using the -query option to do this, i.e. XWin -depth 32 -engine 4 -fullscreen -refresh 85 -screen 0 1024 768 -query $remotehost I get the login screen, enter my username and password and attempt to login. For some reason, I just get bounced back to the login screen again. I've been unable to get this to work. Any ideas as to what could cause this? -- ___ ((__O\ (___ \ Don't get rattled by Steven Whatley \ \_(___)\O\_/O___- what I say. It's just [EMAIL PROTECTED] \O)\___/my opinion.
