RE: What do people use Xfree86 for?
You should feed your braincell more regularly, give it some water too. The page you refer to is full of broken links and is trying to sell the antique MI/X server. Which was never able to handle multinational keyboards. Of course, this wouldn't be a problem, since yours is uppercase only. Still working on that Tandy? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: zondag 2 februari 2003 6:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What do people use Xfree86 for? BULLSHIT NOT A GOOD EXPLAINATION USE FOR REMTELY CONNECTING TO A UNIX BOX N USE REMOTE APPLICATIONS. YA CAN DOWNLOAD FREE XSERVER FROM http://www.thecyborg.com/howto/xserver.html Fred, I actually use Cygwin/XFree86 to run xfig on my laptop while I am doing my math and computer science homework at the library. That is the most useful local app that I use. Other than that I tend to open XDMCP sessions to my linux boxen so that I can login and use KDE. That's about it. Harold fred wrote: Hello, I just ran Xfree86. Very, very nice. Just like sitting on the sun boxes at school. All the twm setup files and Xresources work the same. It was so alike (and tons faster) that I got carried away and starting to invoke apps like I do from school. That's where the similarity ended. All the apps fired up outside of Xwindows. That's OK, my relationship with windows is one of like-hate. It has some pretty handy features, but I tear my head off about some things. But, given that cygwin's X runs within Windows, and any apps you invoke fire up in MS windows (that's the way it should be because the apps were written to use the MS windows features), what do people actually use X for? I've found that despite the mighty coolness, all I do is open up an xterm and start an ssh tunnel to school, with port forwarding. Then I do everything else from MS windows. With the virtual scrolling of the touchpad, and the rather effortless cut-and-paste, I don't mind it at all. But it sort of makes me wonderwhy? Fred P.S. This is not a knock down of X on cygwin, I think it's really cool. It's astounding that it was even possible. I'm wondering if I'm not making as much use of it as I could. === This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached.
Re: What do people use Xfree86 for?
* Pille Geert (bizvdm) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-02-03 09:21:42 +0100]: The page you refer to is full of broken links and is trying to sell the antique MI/X server. Which was never able to handle multinational keyboards. Of course, this wouldn't be a problem, since yours is uppercase only. Still working on that Tandy? You know, getting this guy's Yahoo mail account shut down might be a little satisfying, but wouldn't reporting him to the Feds for fraud be even better? I doubt he's a legal Microimages reseller. :) Apologies to the list manager(s) (and everyone else) for posting to this thread; please send replies to this message (if any) to me personally and not the list. -- John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) msg05090/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Beginners questions.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I think I've got Cygwin and XFree installed correctly on my Win98 SE box. I type think because I have no standard to go by. How can I tell when Cygwin is correctly installed? It currently runs and I can access info, man, sh, bc and most other good things that I know about. I'm in the same position with the X window stuff. I have no idea what I'm supposed to see. Since there are at least three ways of starting X detailed in the FAQ/User Manual, I'd like to try and tell you folks what I see when I try them and then you can tell me if this is normal or not, OK? First attempt was the startxwin.bat I get a full screen window with a bash window. When I left clicked the mouse and selected exit the bash window lost it's title. When I clicked the Windows Close button the Full Screen window went away and was replaced with another one. This one had no sub-windows and the mouse was not clickable but it did move. The next attempt was to start Cygwin and then type startx at the command prompt. Other than giving me a Xclock, unresponsive xterm and two bash windows this one behaved the same as the above. The last one was to start Cygwin and type: sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh (without the quotes) on the command prompt. This gave me a nice aquamarine (?) window with an Xclock and a bash window. Once again exit removes the windows titles, but this time close does close the window without a second one opening. OK, are these normal? If not, what is wrong with my install that is causing the problem and how do I go about fixing it? This is a totally fresh install, no files added. - -- Best regards, Magus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPj53lvqiG3YPjS8zEQLIjgCfQetZck0spAPWh/vxveyuqY55QEMAniy+ 7XfeNp4wZ5MEv4H5ni4Ooc9B =k9cU -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Problem with remote KDE apps
I am having a problem that I guess is X related. I ssh into another computer, then run kmail, and the application displays, however much of the toolbars and other aspects of the display run off the screen. Like here: http://hiddenworld.net:81/images/cygwin.jpg I have fiddled with the kmail -geometry options, but can't seem to change this behaviour. This is probably simple to remedy, but I can't find the answer. Thanks! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: What do people use Xfree86 for?
U DO YA FEED WATER TO YAR BRAIN CELLS KEWL I THOUGHT YA FEED GRASS TO YAR BRAINCELLS THEREFORE YA COULD NOT GET LINK WRKING. LOL RE: What do people use Xfree86 for?From: Pille Geert (bizvdm) To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:21:42 +0100 Subject: RE: What do people use Xfree86 for? Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com You should feed your braincell more regularly, give it some water too.The page you refer to is full of broken links and is trying to sell theantique MI/X server. Which was never able to handle multinationalkeyboards. Of course, this wouldn't be a problem, since yours is uppercaseonly. Still working on that Tandy?From: John Buttery To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 03:06:28 -0600 Subject: Re: What do people use Xfree86 for? References: Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Reply-to: John Buttery * Pille Geert (bizvdm) [2003-02-03 09:21:42 +0100]: The page you refer to is full of broken links and is trying to sell the antique MI/X server. Which was never able to handle multinational keyboards. Of course, this wouldn't be a problem, since yours is uppercase only. Still working on that Tandy? You know, getting this guy's Yahoo mail account shut down might be alittle satisfying, but wouldn't reporting him to the Feds for fraud beeven better? I doubt he's a legal Microimages reseller. :) Apologies to the list manager(s) (and everyone else) for posting tothis thread; please send replies to this message (if any) to mepersonally and not the list.-- John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: Beginners questions.
Subject: Beginners questions. Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:07:05 -0600 From: Magus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cygwin-XFree Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I think I've got Cygwin and XFree installed correctly on my Win98 SE box. I type think because I have no standard to go by. How can I tell when Cygwin is correctly installed? It currently runs and I can access info, man, sh, bc and most other good things that I know about. I'm in the same position with the X window stuff. I have no idea what I'm supposed to see. Since there are at least three ways of starting X detailed in the FAQ/User Manual, I'd like to try and tell you folks what I see when I try them and then you can tell me if this is normal or not, OK?- -- Best regards, Magus Hey, Magus, I don't think there's a normal X window. It depends on what's in your ~/.xinitrc. I copied it from /etc/X11/xinit. This is one of the ways of starting up X, using the startx command. I found that I had to run startx from /usr/X11R6/bin. Simply putting the directory into my path didn't work. In ~/.xinitrc, twm starts the window manqager. You will see 3 commands to start xterms, and 1 to start a clock. That's what you should get on your desktop. The first thing I did was replace all that stuff with stuff I normally start up on the sun boxes (I use twm instead of the sun desktop). That varies from individual to individual. The capabilities of twm are in the man page, but it's kind of hard to read. I would search for a tutorial on the web. But a bit of experimenation reveals pretty all there is (it's a bare bones windows manager). Most of the functionality can be seen in the popup menus, which show up when you click the mouse on the desktop, away from any windows. Some xterm options menus can be seen by pressing control-mouse-button in the xterm. The good thing about twm is that it's easier than other window managers to customize, since everything is in the man page. It's not light reading, and requires experimentation, but probably way simpler than customizing, say, Sun's CDE. Good luck. And hope it's an interesting experience, exploring the vagaries of X, though it's admittedly not always straightforward. Fred -- Fred Ma, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carleton University, Dept. of Electronics 1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario Canada, K1S 5B6
