Re: AltGr is CTRL on Norwegian/German keyboard

2003-09-25 Thread Heiko Nardmann
Hi again!

Further facts on keyboard problems:

- after removal of XF86Config nothing changes
- connecting to a Solaris machine running CDE inside the session works fine 
but the Linux machine running KDE still has problems
- on the Linux machine: when pressing AltGr then the following appears inside 
the .xsession-errors file:

kdecore (KAccel): WARNING: Sym::initQt(  ): failed to convert key.

Maybe this is a KDE problem?

On Montag, 22. September 2003 16:42, Heiko Nardmann wrote:
 Another interesting detail: inside the KDM login (I access a Linux server
 using XDMP) the problematic key works fine. So where is the difference
 here?

 On Montag, 22. September 2003 16:34, Heiko Nardmann wrote:
  On Dienstag, 16. September 2003 21:23, Steinar Bang wrote:
Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
You don't have any of the Windows PowerToys installed, do you?
  
   Not intentially.
  
   Can they be installed during a service pack upgrade?  Can they be
   remotely installed by helpful IT support people?  Is there a way to
   find out if I have them installed?
  
   And do PowerToys exist for Win2k? (a search for powertoy on
   www.google.com just popped up Powertoys for XP)
 
  I have the same problems here with a German keyboard. The pressing of the
  key with (less,greater,bar) does not result in any character.
 
  This worked until I decided to upgrade from Windows NT to Windows XP.
 
  What else beside the data given below can I easily do to help debugging
  this problem?
 
  Here is what xev prints:
 
  KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x381,
  root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 3822466, (194,186), root:(198,233),
  state 0x0, keycode 94 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,
  XLookupString gives 0 bytes:  
 
  KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x381,
  root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 3822566, (194,186), root:(198,233),
  state 0x0, keycode 94 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,
  XLookupString gives 0 bytes:  
 
  Now the output of Spy++:
 
  Two times pressing AltGr:
 
  1 0012019C P WM_KEYDOWN nVirtKey:VK_CONTROL cRepeat:1 ScanCode:1D
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:0 fRepeat:0 fUp:0
  2 0012019C P WM_KEYDOWN nVirtKey:VK_MENU cRepeat:1 ScanCode:38
  fExtended:1 fAltDown:1 fRepeat:0 fUp:0
  3 0012019C P WM_SYSKEYUP nVirtKey:VK_CONTROL cRepeat:1 ScanCode:1D
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:1 fRepeat:1 fUp:1
  4 0012019C P WM_KEYUP nVirtKey:VK_MENU cRepeat:1 ScanCode:38
  fExtended:1 fAltDown:0 fRepeat:1 fUp:1
 
  5 0012019C P WM_KEYDOWN nVirtKey:VK_CONTROL cRepeat:1 ScanCode:1D
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:0 fRepeat:0 fUp:0
  6 0012019C P WM_KEYDOWN nVirtKey:VK_MENU cRepeat:1 ScanCode:38
  fExtended:1 fAltDown:1 fRepeat:0 fUp:0
  7 0012019C P WM_SYSKEYUP nVirtKey:VK_CONTROL cRepeat:1 ScanCode:1D
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:1 fRepeat:1 fUp:1
  8 0012019C P WM_KEYUP nVirtKey:VK_MENU cRepeat:1 ScanCode:38
  fExtended:1 fAltDown:0 fRepeat:1 fUp:1
 
  Two times pressing key (less,greater,bar) next to left Shift bar:
 
  9 0012019C P WM_KEYDOWN nVirtKey:VK_OEM_102 cRepeat:1 ScanCode:56
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:0 fRepeat:0 fUp:0
  00010 0012019C P WM_KEYUP nVirtKey:VK_OEM_102 cRepeat:1 ScanCode:56
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:0 fRepeat:1 fUp:1
 
  00011 0012019C P WM_KEYDOWN nVirtKey:VK_OEM_102 cRepeat:1 ScanCode:56
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:0 fRepeat:0 fUp:0
  00012 0012019C P WM_KEYUP nVirtKey:VK_OEM_102 cRepeat:1 ScanCode:56
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:0 fRepeat:1 fUp:1
 
  Switching back from Cygwin to Windows using Alt-Tab:
 
  00013 0012019C P WM_SYSKEYDOWN nVirtKey:VK_MENU cRepeat:1 ScanCode:38
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:1 fRepeat:0 fUp:0
  00014 0012019C P WM_SYSKEYUP nVirtKey:VK_TAB cRepeat:1 ScanCode:0F
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:1 fRepeat:0 fUp:1
  00015 0012019C P WM_SYSKEYUP nVirtKey:VK_MENU cRepeat:1 ScanCode:38
  fExtended:0 fAltDown:0 fRepeat:1 fUp:1
 
 
 
  Here is my /etc/XF86Config:
 
 
 
 
  
 
  Section Files
  RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
 
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
  EndSection
 
  Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Keyboard1
  Driver  Keyboard
  Option AutoRepeat 500 30
  Option XkbRules   xfree86
  Option XkbModel   pc105
  Option XkbLayout  de
  Option XkbVariant  nodeadkeys
  EndSection
 
  Section Device
  Identifier  dummy
  Driver  dummy
  EndSection
 
  Section Monitor
  Identifier  dummy
  EndSection
 
  Section Screen
  Identifier  dummy
  Device  dummy
  Monitor dummy
  EndSection
 
  Section ServerLayout
  Identifier  dummy
  Screen  dummy
  InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard
  EndSection
 
  

Failure to make grap 1.30 under cygwin 1.5.5

2003-09-25 Thread fergus
A configure / make /make install that has been working successfully oob for
a long time recently failed. the relevant .tgz is unaltered, only Cygwin has
changed. Does the following output from make, throw any light on this? The
configure worked fine. I attach cygcheck.out.
Fergus

~/tmp/grap-1.30 make
grep ^# grap.y  grap.cc ; grep ^# grap_lex.l  grap_lex.cc; touch
y.tab.h
g++ -MM -Wall -DHAVE_CONFIG_H grap.cc grap_lex.cc *.cc  .depend;
rm -f grap.cc grap_lex.cc y.tab.h
bison -y -d grap.y
mv y.tab.c grap.cc
g++ -Wall -DHAVE_CONFIG_H   -c -o grap.o grap.cc
flex -ograp_lex.cc grap_lex.l
g++ -Wall -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wno-unused -c grap_lex.cc
grap_lex.l: In function `void expand_macro(macro*)':
grap_lex.l:979: error: `yytext_ptr' undeclared (first use this function)
grap_lex.l:979: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
each function it appears in.)
grap_lex.l: In function `bool is_macro(const std::string)':
grap_lex.l:990: error: parse error before `--' token
grap_lex.l: At global scope:
grap_lex.l:996: error: parse error before `]' token
make: *** [grap_lex.o] Error 1
~/tmp/grap-1.30


cygcheck.out
Description: Binary data


Re: Failure to make grap 1.30 under cygwin 1.5.5

2003-09-25 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Fergus,

This is a general Cygwin question, not a Cygwin/XFree86 question.  It 
should have been sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED]

However, I happen to know the answer you want to hear.  The problem is 
that 'flex' 2.5.31-1 sucks; it can't build anything in the XFree86 tree. 
 Something is horribly wrong with it, but I don't care to get involved 
in fixing it.  As such, I have upgraded flex to the 'test' version 
2.5.4-2.  You can do this in Cygwin's setup.exe, but you have to keep 
manually reselecting that version each time you run setup.exe because it 
will always try to replace it with the 'curr' 2.5.31-1 version.

Good luck, I hope that helps,

Harold

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A configure / make /make install that has been working successfully oob for
a long time recently failed. the relevant .tgz is unaltered, only Cygwin has
changed. Does the following output from make, throw any light on this? The
configure worked fine. I attach cygcheck.out.
Fergus
~/tmp/grap-1.30 make
grep ^# grap.y  grap.cc ; grep ^# grap_lex.l  grap_lex.cc; touch
y.tab.h
g++ -MM -Wall -DHAVE_CONFIG_H grap.cc grap_lex.cc *.cc  .depend;
rm -f grap.cc grap_lex.cc y.tab.h
bison -y -d grap.y
mv y.tab.c grap.cc
g++ -Wall -DHAVE_CONFIG_H   -c -o grap.o grap.cc
flex -ograp_lex.cc grap_lex.l
g++ -Wall -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wno-unused -c grap_lex.cc
grap_lex.l: In function `void expand_macro(macro*)':
grap_lex.l:979: error: `yytext_ptr' undeclared (first use this function)
grap_lex.l:979: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
each function it appears in.)
grap_lex.l: In function `bool is_macro(const std::string)':
grap_lex.l:990: error: parse error before `--' token
grap_lex.l: At global scope:
grap_lex.l:996: error: parse error before `]' token
make: *** [grap_lex.o] Error 1
~/tmp/grap-1.30



Yellowish color on certain java applications

2003-09-25 Thread amr roushi
I use XDM and it works fine however in certain Java application I get a
 yellowish color on certain areas the rest is ok . Running natively or 
with VNC
I do not have this behaviour . if uneed I can send u screen captures to 
show u what I mean
thks for ur help .




startxwin.bat - how to use an .xinitrc file

2003-09-25 Thread Mike Campbell
I have several things that I like to have run when I start an xsession 
and normally I would put these into a ~/.xinitrc file to have them run 
at X startup time.

However, when I run startxwin.bat it does not appear to execute the 
.xinitrc file automatically. Therefore I have had to manually edit the 
startxwin.bat file and add my custom stuff.

Id like to find a way around editing startxwin.bat since after every 
xfree update I have to re-edit the file and re-add my custom lines.

Am I missing something here? Is there a way to get startxwin.bat to 
automatically find $HOME/.xinitrc or would this be a good enhancement 
request?

Thanks,
Mike Campbell


ssh hangs with solaris 8 again

2003-09-25 Thread tulitanssi
Hi all,

I found that writing 'run' in front of xterm command in file .XWinrc seems to solve 
the Solaris 8 hanging problem:

menu root {
// for an unknown reason, solaris needs 'run' in the beginning of the 
command...
solaris exec run xterm -sb -e ssh -X solarisbox

//...etc...
}

Does anyone have any idea why? For Linux machines, 'run' is not needed.

Thanks,
Tuli



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connecting to rh gdm

2003-09-25 Thread Bill McCormick
I'm able to successfully connect to gdm Xserver on my RH Linux box but I see
this ...

$ XWin -query 192.168.212.1  -lesspointer -clipboard -xf86config
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86config
Xlib: connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Xlib: connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Xlib: connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Also, I'd rather not use the resources on the Linux Box yet still have this
functionality. So, is there a way I can accomplish this without actually
being in runmode 5 on the Linux box?

Thanks,


Bill
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Re: connecting to rh gdm

2003-09-25 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Bill,

Bill McCormick wrote:

I'm able to successfully connect to gdm Xserver on my RH Linux box but I see
this ...
$ XWin -query 192.168.212.1  -lesspointer -clipboard -xf86config
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86config
Xlib: connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
Xlib: connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
Xlib: connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
Looks like -clipboard is having trouble connecting, which it almost 
always does when using XDMCP.  Are you running any other X Clients in 
your startup script on Windows?  Did you use startxdmcp.bat as a base? 
It would be a good idea to use startxdmcp.bat as a base since it doesn't 
start local X Clients.

Also, I'd rather not use the resources on the Linux Box yet still have this
functionality. So, is there a way I can accomplish this without actually
being in runmode 5 on the Linux box?
What resources?  If you are referring to the overhead of running just 
xdm, then yes, you can do this without running xdm.  However, the 
resources associated with your full remote session are always going to 
be used, if you want a full remote session.

If what you want to do is just display some remote clients using the 
local window manager (XWin -multiwindow), then you can do this with ssh 
and X11 tunneling:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html#using-remote-apps-ssh

If you still want the full remote desktop (e.g. Gnome, KDE, etc.), then 
you start XWin without -multiwindow, -rootless, and -query (e.g. XWin 
-nodecoration -lesspointer) and without a local window manager (e.g. 
twm, mwm, etc.).  You launch an xterm (from your script) and either 
configure it to run ssh, or you manually ssh to the remote machine. 
Finally, you run the script on your remote machine that starts the 
window manager of your choice.  Some examples from debian would be 
'startkde', 'startgnome', etc.  This still uses all of the resouces 
associated with running a full desktop login, but it does allow you to 
not run xdm on your linux machine.

I don't have the exact procedure for automating the launch of ssh from 
xterm, but I think an example was in an email sent the list today, so 
you can search the mailing list archives for 'ssh' and 'xterm'.

Good luck,

Harold

Thanks,

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RE: connecting to rh gdm

2003-09-25 Thread Richardson, Anthony
Bill McCormick wrote:
 Also, I'd rather not use the resources on the Linux Box yet 
 still have this
 functionality. So, is there a way I can accomplish this 
 without actually
 being in runmode 5 on the Linux box?

Do you mean that you don't want to run an X server on the remote
server, but allow remote connections via xdm?  If you are running
xdm or kdm remotely just comment out the line that starts up the
X server in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.  If you are using gdm it may
be different, I don't know.

Tony Richardson


Re: startxwin.bat - how to use an .xinitrc file

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Chadwick
Sounds like I've got my Cygwin/Xfree setup the way you'd like.  You can do 
it, too, in 3 easy steps...

1) Edit the file .bash_profile in your home directory and make sure the 
X11R6/bin directory gets added to your path.  e.g.:

   export PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin

2) Put your .xinitrc file in your home directory and edit it to your liking.

3) Create a Windows shortcut (on the Desktop, for instance) with the 
following target:

   C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run.exe /bin/bash.exe --login -c xinit -- 
-noreset -nodecoration

The run part keeps bash from creating a dormant icon on the task bar.
The --login part tells bash to read .bash_profile.
The arguments after xinit -- get passed to XWin.
That's all there is to it!

From: Mike Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: startxwin.bat - how to use an .xinitrc file
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:24:33 -0500
I have several things that I like to have run when I start an xsession and 
normally I would put these into a ~/.xinitrc file to have them run at X 
startup time.

However, when I run startxwin.bat it does not appear to execute the 
.xinitrc file automatically. Therefore I have had to manually edit the 
startxwin.bat file and add my custom stuff.

Id like to find a way around editing startxwin.bat since after every xfree 
update I have to re-edit the file and re-add my custom lines.

Am I missing something here? Is there a way to get startxwin.bat to 
automatically find $HOME/.xinitrc or would this be a good enhancement 
request?

Thanks,
Mike Campbell
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Re: Xfree86 is slow! with software like MATLAB

2003-09-25 Thread g . macaulay
Harold  Mark,

To contribute to the discussion:

I see the same problem when running Matlab. In my case Matlab is run on a 
Compaq/HP Tru64 computer with the GUI displayed on my Windows PC running 
cygwin/xfree in multiwindow mode. I also have a commercial X server (xwin32) 
available on my PC. Display of Matlab graphics, or even updating of the icons 
in Matlab window menubar are considerably slower when running via cygwin/xfree -
 the graphics benchmarks that Matlab provide run approximately 100 times slower 
under cygwin/xfree than under xwin32. Trials of other commercial X servers 
indicated that some are slow and some are quick, probably due to the reason 
given by Harold.

An in-house, graphically intensive, X program run under the same setup as above 
does not show such a marked difference. One point of difference is that the 
Matlab GUI is written entirely in Java, while the other program uses GTK.

Regards

Gavin

On 24 Sep 2003 at 22:27, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Mark,
 
 Using the default -multiwindow mode (with the integrated window manager) 
 is slower than all of the other modes.
 
 You can run XWin from startxwin.bat instead with:
 
 XWin -rootless
 
 Then you need to start a window manager like 'twm':
 
 run twm
 
 
 Cygwin/XFree86 works by drawing to an offscreen framebuffer (using the 
 primary CPU), then transferring updated portions of the offscreen 
 framebuffer to the screen.  Work has begun, and is also essentially 
 stalled, on the Native GDI engine for Cygwin/XFree86 that translates 
 each X graphics call to a GDI graphics call; this has the advantage of 
 utilizing the power of the graphics processing unit (GPU).  Exceed and 
 possibly other commercial X Servers do something similar to the Native 
 GDI engine and are thus faster.
 
 On a side note, the speed of your graphics card and the quality of its 
 drivers are very important for the performance of Cygwin/XFree86.  A two 
 or three year old ATI or NVIDIA PCI (AGP is better) graphics card will 
 be substantially faster than a 5 year old PCI graphics card from a 
 no-name vendor.  On the other hand, I use a 5 year old Diamond PCI 
 graphics card and it works just fine.
 
 That's about it.
 
 Harold
 
 Mark Jones wrote:
  I have tried using XFree86 (linux and cygwin) for Cygwin's XFree86 and 
  Linux's XFree86 and have found it to be extremely slow at refreshing the
  screen making it nearly impossible to use MATLAB's editor reasonably. 
  However, using a MS Windows emulator like Xoftware or Hummingbird's Exceed
  provides extremely fast response such that it is useable with various programs
  including MATLAB.  Is there a valid reason for this?  Is it being addressed?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Mark
  
 
 




Re: Failure to make grap 1.30 under cygwin 1.5.5

2003-09-25 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 08:58:23AM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Fergus,

This is a general Cygwin question, not a Cygwin/XFree86 question.  It 
should have been sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED]

However, I happen to know the answer you want to hear.  The problem is 
that 'flex' 2.5.31-1 sucks; it can't build anything in the XFree86 tree. 
 Something is horribly wrong with it, but I don't care to get involved 
in fixing it.

Just so it's clear: I don't care to get involved in fixing issues where
the bug report is something is horribly wrong with it, either, so if
you do actually want to work on fixing it, then I'll need more to go on
than I have been given and I'll need some hint of cooperation rather
than attitude.  But, of course, that's a good lesson for life anyway.

As such, I have upgraded flex to the 'test' version 2.5.4-2.

That would be the prev version not the test version.

cgf


Re: Failure to make grap 1.30 under cygwin 1.5.5

2003-09-25 Thread fergus
 flex 2.5.31-1 sucks ...
 ... upgrade to 2.5.4-2.

Well this worked just fine. Thank you very much for this pragmatic help.
Fergus



Re: Xfree86 is slow! with software like MATLAB

2003-09-25 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Gavin,

I forgot to mention something that is becoming apparent now:

Matlab may be using OpenGL, which is implemented in software in 
Cygwin/XFree86.  Thus, OpenGL is extremely slow in Cygwin/XFree86.  Some 
of the commercial X Servers for Windows have an accelerated 
implementation of OpenGL that basically passes off the calls to the 
Win32 OpenGL layer.  This was also implemented in X on X (XFree86 for 
Mac OS X), so a reference implementation is available if someone wanted 
to look into doing this.

So, are the fast apps non-OpenGL and the slow apps OpenGL?

Harold

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harold  Mark,

To contribute to the discussion:

I see the same problem when running Matlab. In my case Matlab is run on a 
Compaq/HP Tru64 computer with the GUI displayed on my Windows PC running 
cygwin/xfree in multiwindow mode. I also have a commercial X server (xwin32) 
available on my PC. Display of Matlab graphics, or even updating of the icons 
in Matlab window menubar are considerably slower when running via cygwin/xfree -
 the graphics benchmarks that Matlab provide run approximately 100 times slower 
under cygwin/xfree than under xwin32. Trials of other commercial X servers 
indicated that some are slow and some are quick, probably due to the reason 
given by Harold.

An in-house, graphically intensive, X program run under the same setup as above 
does not show such a marked difference. One point of difference is that the 
Matlab GUI is written entirely in Java, while the other program uses GTK.

Regards

Gavin

On 24 Sep 2003 at 22:27, Harold L Hunt II wrote:


Mark,

Using the default -multiwindow mode (with the integrated window manager) 
is slower than all of the other modes.

You can run XWin from startxwin.bat instead with:

XWin -rootless

Then you need to start a window manager like 'twm':

run twm

Cygwin/XFree86 works by drawing to an offscreen framebuffer (using the 
primary CPU), then transferring updated portions of the offscreen 
framebuffer to the screen.  Work has begun, and is also essentially 
stalled, on the Native GDI engine for Cygwin/XFree86 that translates 
each X graphics call to a GDI graphics call; this has the advantage of 
utilizing the power of the graphics processing unit (GPU).  Exceed and 
possibly other commercial X Servers do something similar to the Native 
GDI engine and are thus faster.

On a side note, the speed of your graphics card and the quality of its 
drivers are very important for the performance of Cygwin/XFree86.  A two 
or three year old ATI or NVIDIA PCI (AGP is better) graphics card will 
be substantially faster than a 5 year old PCI graphics card from a 
no-name vendor.  On the other hand, I use a 5 year old Diamond PCI 
graphics card and it works just fine.

That's about it.

Harold

Mark Jones wrote:

I have tried using XFree86 (linux and cygwin) for Cygwin's XFree86 and 
Linux's XFree86 and have found it to be extremely slow at refreshing the
screen making it nearly impossible to use MATLAB's editor reasonably. 
However, using a MS Windows emulator like Xoftware or Hummingbird's Exceed
provides extremely fast response such that it is useable with various programs
including MATLAB.  Is there a valid reason for this?  Is it being addressed?

Thanks,

Mark








Re: Failure to make grap 1.30 under cygwin 1.5.5

2003-09-25 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 08:58:23AM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

Fergus,

This is a general Cygwin question, not a Cygwin/XFree86 question.  It 
should have been sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED]

However, I happen to know the answer you want to hear.  The problem is 
that 'flex' 2.5.31-1 sucks; it can't build anything in the XFree86 tree. 
Something is horribly wrong with it, but I don't care to get involved 
in fixing it.


Just so it's clear: I don't care to get involved in fixing issues where
the bug report is something is horribly wrong with it, either, so if
you do actually want to work on fixing it, then I'll need more to go on
than I have been given and I'll need some hint of cooperation rather
than attitude.  But, of course, that's a good lesson for life anyway.
Just so it is clear: I wasn't asking for anyone to get involved.  I saw 
your initial defensive remark to Earle saying that the new version of 
flex wasn't working for him and decided that I really don't care enough 
to get involved and deal with your attitude.  So, I wrote my message 
above in a manner that did not imply it was anyone's fault that flex was 
broken, rather, I merely stated that it was broken and that Fergus can 
be the one to help fix it if he is interested, because I am not.

Harold



Re: Failure to make grap 1.30 under cygwin 1.5.5

2003-09-25 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Fergus,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

flex 2.5.31-1 sucks ...
... upgrade to 2.5.4-2.


Well this worked just fine. Thank you very much for this pragmatic help.
Fergus
No problem.  Of course, we will both be out of luck when 2.5.4 is no 
longer available.  I was thinking that 2.5.4 was newer, but Chris 
pointed out that 2.5.31 is newer (think 2.5.04 v.s 2.5.31).

Oh well.

Harold



Re: Failure to make grap 1.30 under cygwin 1.5.5

2003-09-25 Thread Earle F. Philhower III
Howdy,

At 03:48 PM 9/25/2003 -0400, CGF wrote:
...Just so it's clear: I don't care to get involved in fixing issues where
the bug report is something is horribly wrong with it, either, so if
you do actually want to work on fixing it, then I'll need more to go on
than I have been given and I'll need some hint of cooperation rather
than attitude.  But, of course, that's a good lesson for life anyway.
OK, I know this should be on the cygwin-apps but since it showed up here
can I make a better problem report on the new flex version?
Internal common parsing variables and functions that were available in
2.5.04 no longer are accessible (i.e. yytext_ptr or yyunput, yy_flex_realloc).
As I'm not an expert in Lex I can't say if these are legit functions,
but they have been there since time immemorial and are found in the X11R6
tree in several spots besides the xserver/hw/xwin branch.
For debugging I tried to find the .31 version but couldn't find it on
any official site so I couldn't find a changefile and see if maybe
there's a new -switch or something to enable legacy mode beyond the
standard -lex mode option.  A compile of the version available @ gnu
results in a version that still has these needed functions.
The lex header files are very, very different between the 2.5.4 and .31
versions, but I didn't go into detail because they are quite convoluted.
-Earle F. Philhower, III
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Re: Failure to make grap 1.30 under cygwin 1.5.5

2003-09-25 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 05:22:10PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 08:58:23AM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Just
so it's clear: I don't care to get involved in fixing issues where the
bug report is something is horribly wrong with it, either, so if you
do actually want to work on fixing it, then I'll need more to go on
than I have been given and I'll need some hint of cooperation rather
than attitude.  But, of course, that's a good lesson for life anyway.

Just so it is clear: I wasn't asking for anyone to get involved.

Getting involved is what a package owner is supposed to do.  Why do
you get involved when someone says Cygwin/XFree86 is broken?  No one
is specifically asking you to get involved.

I saw your initial defensive remark to Earle saying that the new
version of flex wasn't working for him

You have entirely misread my response.  Earle made a confusing statement
about what he did to rectify a problem.  I replied, indicating that his
stated version numbers made no sense if what he said was true.

For the record, I upgraded flex because someone was complaining that it
was older than the latest release.  So I upgraded it for them.  I ran
the test suite prior to releasing it.

Goodbye.

cgf


Re: xfree86 cut/copy/paste

2003-09-25 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
Redirecting to the correct list and replying.  Please remove cygwin at
cygwin dot com from further discussion on this topic.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Bill McCormick wrote:

 Hello,

 Is there cut/copy/paste functionality with xfree86 (using windows clipboard)
 like there is with rxvt?

 I'm sure this has come up before but I can't seem to find it.

 Thanks,
 Bill

Bill,

Try giving a -clipboard argument to XWin.exe, or use the xwinclip
utility (although the latter is outdated, IIRC).  Search the cygwin-xfree
list archives for either clipboard or xwinclip for more details.
Igor
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