XWin not found and xinit: no such file or directory (errno 2)

2004-05-13 Thread Nico Prasetio
Dear all,

I've got a problem when trying to lauch startx the
problem is as follows:

xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to
connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error

And when I tried to run XWin.exe i got msg:

XWin: not found

Here is the msg when i tried to run cygcheck:
Cygwin Package Information
PackageVersion  Status
XFree86-xserv  4.3.0-68 OK

$mount
L:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts on
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts type system (binmode)
L:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type system (binmode)
L:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type system (binmode)
L:\cygwin on / type system (binmode)
c: on /cygdrive/c type user (binmode,noumount)
d: on /cygdrive/d type user (binmode,noumount)
l: on /cygdrive/l type user (binmode,noumount)

There's no XWin.lo either, my question what happened
cause I have chosen to intall full packages.

Thank you for your answer
Nico Prsasetio







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Re: Clipboard problems

2004-05-13 Thread Gilles Civario
Hello.
In complement to this problem, I've tried some tests :
 1/ I've checked out the cvs tree and compiled a debug version.
I've used it but the behaviour was the same and I didn't manage to find
how to track the culpid, due to the integration into KDE-Cygwin.
I think the problem is strongly related to KDE clipboard management, so
I also send this mail to the KDE-cygwin mailing list.
 2/ As ever, I've regulary updated my cygwin installation and retried.
Until 6.7.0.0-8, there was no change (unless cursor desappearing, temporarily
solved with -swcursor). But with 6.7.0.0-9, ther is some evolution :
Now, the clipboard works fine as long as I stay into X11 applications,
but as soon as I try to use it into Windows applications, XWin freeze,
with task manager showing 100% of cpu consumption. The only solution is to
kill it manually.
How could I help you tracking more efficiently this problem, or even how could
I solve it ?
Thanks.

Gilles Civario

Here is the new /tmp/XWin.log

Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 6.7.0.0-9
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XWin was started with the following command line:

/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin :0 -noreset -ac -nowinkill -nodecoration
-lesspointer -clipboard -swcursor
ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
(II) XF86Config is not supported
(II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007
winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff
winScreenInit - Using software cursor
MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared 
memory support in the kernel
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "040C" (040c)
(--) Using preset keyboard for "French (Standard)" (40c), type "81"
Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "fr" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)"
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list!
winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 640 498
winProcEstablishConnection - Hello
winInitClipboard ()
winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned.
winClipboardProc - Hello
DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP
winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display.


Gilles Civario wrote:
Hello.
I've got some problems with clipboard integration since XWin version 
4.3.0-62 or 4.3.0-64 i think (not 100% sure, but it dates of late march of
beginning of april, and i usually update really regularly my installations).

I run kde-cygwin.3.1.4 but I don't know if this is relevant; Simply, the 
trouble I have occures always in this environement, as I've not observed it 
outside kde (but I've not much tested it).

So, my problem it that I can't use Windows clipboard anymore when I've 
got XWin running!!!
I can copy/paste inside X11 applications as normal behavior
I can copy from X11 and paste to Windows applications bash-2.05b
But I can copy from Windows applications neither to Windows application, 
nor to X11 ones.

And my /tmp/XWin.log looks like :

Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 6.7.0.0-1
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XWin was started with the following command line:

/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin :0 -noreset -ac -nowinkill -nodecoration
-lesspointer -clipboard
ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
winValidateArgs - Returning.
(II) XF86Config is not supported. See 
http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html for more information
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007
winScreenInit - dwWidth: 1280 dwHeight: 1024
winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI
winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 996 1280
winAdjustForAutoHide - A

Problems running xterms on AIX and the Oracle Univeral Installer

2004-05-13 Thread Bent, Brian
Hello -  I am newbie to cygwin and am having a few difficulties running X
from a remote AIX 4.3.3 server.  I am starting up the X server by running
the startxwin.bat file.  I am taking the default of "run XWin -multiwindow
-clipboard ."  I am using X11Forwarding so that my DISPLAY variable is set
when I ssh to a server.  When I run xterm on the box that I ssh to, the
xterm does display back.  However, I can't seem to be able to type anything
inside the xterm.  No characters ever show up inside the xterm.  I can use
cntrl-d to close the window.  Can you suggest a way for me to correct this?
I have experimented with the -fullscreen mode with the same results.
Something else I am having problems with is when I run the Oracle Universal
Installer on a remote system; my cursor basically disappears when my mouse
has the focus on the oui.  I am able click buttons, but I can't ever see
where my cursor is.  I currently have Hummingbird installed and it is
working fine for displaying X back, but I would really prefer to use Cygwin.
I do not have Hummingbird and Cygwin running at the same time.  If anyone
can help me with my issues, I would greatly appreciate it.
Brian



Moving

2004-05-13 Thread Harold L Hunt II
My wife and I just graduated with our final college degrees, her with 
her second bachelor's and I with my master's in computer science.  We 
start moving from Michigan to California tomorrow and I will be losing 
my internet and computer access starting in about three hours.  We will 
have internet access next week but it is unlikely that my computer will 
arrive for at least a week, so I will be unable to check email or 
perform any actions for the project for at least a week.

I am starting my new job on May 24th and we are having a baby in July. 
As you can imagine, this means that I will be pretty busy.  I am 
investigating handing the project over to Alexander Gottwald; this 
transition would likely occur about four weeks from now if it will occur 
at all.  I just want to prep everyone for the idea that I might be 
moving on so that it does not come as a surprise if I do move on.

That is it for now.  I will probably be unsubscribed from the mailing 
list for the next week so that my mailbox does not overflow.

Later,

Harold


RE: Tracking Down Disappearing Cursors

2004-05-13 Thread Wilks, Dan
Alexander Gottwald wrote:

>I've wrapped the ShowCursor handling with if (g_fSoftwareCursor). 

Yea, that's what I was wondering.  You might consider removing the
ShowCursor from wincursor.c altogether.  I don't think it hurts but it's 
not really necessary as long as other bits of the system aren't going
to go hiding it.  Oh, and you might want to update the bit in the docs
to include the differences between hardware and software cursor handling.

>Can you please test it with the Terminal Service?

The cursor works fine.  There are a few other miscellaneous problems in
multiwindow mode though.  Window activation doesn't appear to affect the X 
window stacking order, window titles are all "Cygwin/X X." I hope those
aren't unexpected.  Uh, never mind, seems to be an artifact of Spy++ running
when starting XWin.  Uggh.

And while on the subject of cursors, have there been any discussions about
xeyes support in multiwindow mode and the problems caused because X clients
don't realize that they're not visible?  Try this: run emacs in (default) 
x-mode.  Minimize all other windows besides emacs.  Take note of where any
of the icon bar buttons are.  Minimize the emacs window.  Hover the mouse
over where one of the buttons was.  Up pops the emacs tooltip/balloon help
window.  You get the same behavior if it was another windows app obscuring
the emacs window.  I was thinking about a -noxeyes flag that just turned off
the WIN_POLLING_MOUSE_TIMER_ID timer, or maybe just not calling
miPointerAbsoluteCursor when the cursor is over an non-X window.  Suboptimal
but less annoying.

Thanks,
Dan



Re: Xwin weirdnesses

2004-05-13 Thread Wirawan Purwanto
Certainly there are lots of things that need work at this point with
X.org's Xwin. I also have the same problem as described below. What I did
to resolve the problem is to replace the "run" keyword with "start". "run"
was a cygwin command (run.exe), while "start" is Windows shell (cmd.exe)
intrinsic command.

The other complaint is this: Xwin often closes by itself with NO warning,
nothing written in /tmp/XWin.log. Here's my XWin.log quote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$ cat /tmp/XWin.log
Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 6.7.0.0-8

Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XWin was started with the following command line:

XWin -unixkill -nowinkill -clipboard

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1600 h 1024
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
(II) XF86Config is not supported
(II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more
information
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007
winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per
pixel
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff
MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack
of shar
ed memory support in the kernel
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "0409" (0409)
(EE) Keyboardlayout "US" (0409) is unknown
Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options =
"(null)"
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing
from list!
winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 797 480
winProcEstablishConnection - Hello
winInitClipboard ()
winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned.
winClipboardProc - Hello
DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP
winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the
display.

-- yip, and not too long after, the X screen disappears!
No core dump was found in $HOME directory or /tmp. Note: I use WindowMaker
as the window manager.


Wirawan


OOT:

Are you sure that the %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix subdir is properly
created? This issue is a disgression from the discussion topic, but let me
mention it. It may worth looking into to fix the current implementation of
my-startxwin.bat.

This directory is actually a problem, if someone cares. In my case, the
cygwin "partition" lives on an NTFS filesystem, and I use ntsec (NT
Security) to provide the "real" unix file permissions. This poses a
problem. The X server needs /tmp/.X11-unix subdir, which may or may not be
accessible by any user starting the session. This may in turn fails the
whole X session. Why? Since the X session is started by an ordinary _user_
(and not by ROOT as in Linux). The subdir /tmp/.X11-unix, if created by a
user, say, XYZ, will not be erasable by another user starting X session
(later) on the same machine.

Suppose there are 2 users on that machine that can start X sessions (of
course not concurrently, I would assume, but that can also happen on an XP
box). For simplicity let me assume that they are 2 different users that
would start X at different times, and the sessions do not overlap. The
first user started it, and my-startxwin.bat creates /tmp/.X11-unix (OWNED
by the first user). Now this session is properly terminated. Then the
other user tried to start with my-startxwin.bat, but it wouldn't be able
to, as /tmp/.X11-unix has been there and created by someone else. NTFS
permission is so strict that even administrators can't always able to
erase that subdir!

Let me outline my solution: I had to customize the script, by replacing
%CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp to another directory which is accessible only to me.
In this case, I create C:\cygwin\tmp\wirawan, and MOUNT that subdir as
/tmp *for me only*:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$ mount -u -b 'C:\cygwin\tmp\wirawan' /tmp

Then all references to %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp are replaced with
C:\cygwin\tmp\wirawan. This can pose another trickery, but it works for
me. My X session would generate .X11-unix subdir in *my* /tmp, not in
global tmp (C:\cygwin\tmp).



On Thu, 13 May 2004, it was written:

> Since updating to the newest xorg distribution weird things are happening
> with starting Xwin from startxwin.bat.  I used to be able to start multiple
> windows in a 800 by 600 screen with the blackbox window manager.  Now when
> I try that using the -scrollbars -clipboard -screen 0 800 600 no window
> appears although when I kill X it thinks there are 2 clients connected?! I
> removed "run" from in front of Xwin in the batch file and that works

RE: Mouse/keyboard emulation

2004-05-13 Thread Thomas Chadwick
Turn off NumLock.


From: "Mark Vovchuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mouse/keyboard emulation
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:51:05 -0400
I have been trying to use Cygwin, at least in part, as an X server on
top of a Windows install to be able to execute programs from a UNIX
server and have them appear locally.  The application I have been
specifically attempting to do so with is Eclipse (motif for HP-UX).
Just about every other application that I have run has been able to take
keyboard and mouse input from the Windows machine with no problems.
However, when I run Eclipse, the Java based GUI will launch after a
short time, however it will be a dead screen with no ability to click,
move focus or execute any commands.  In this attempt, I also tried to
display a full Xwindows (CDE on HP-UX 11.0) session.  This did work once
I was able to sort out the X font server issue I encountered initially.
I was able to control the window when displaying the full X session.  My
boss was able to get it to work completely the way we wanted with
another product, however that was a demo of software that is far to
expensive for us to purchase.
This is what I tried to do concerning displaying only the application
remotely to my Windows desktop from the UNIX machine:
I started Cygwin
Typed "startx" and hit return
in the Xterm I typed "xhost +"
in the Xterm I typed "xset +fp tcp/:7100 (the
port the font server is listening on)
in the Xterm I opened an ssh session by typing "ssh -l 
 and then entered the password when prompted
When logged in to the remote server I cd'd into the directory for
eclipse and executed my script to launch it which consists of the path
to the eclipse executable and these arguments:
/eclipse -vm /opt/java1.4/bin/java -vmargs
-XdoCloseWithReadPending
This would bring up the splash and the application would load, but as
stated above, not open.  I could open other X applications and have no
such issues.
Any assistance would be greatly helpful and valued.



Thank you,
Mark
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Upgraded to the latest and now my windows are freezing

2004-05-13 Thread SMore
I have been using cygwin-xfree for a while and everything has been working
fine.

This morning I grabbed the latest software
xorg-x11-base from 6.7.0.0-7 -> 6.7.0.0-8
xorg-x11-etc from 6.7.0.0-1 -> 6.7.0.0-3
xorg-x11-xwin from 6.7.0.0-4 -> 6.7.0.0-8

Now it seems that whenever I am running cygwinX and "Query Analyzer" from
Microsoft, both application fail to respond and the windows are going white.

So I figured I will try and back out of xorg-x11-xwin and go to previous
version. But I can't seem to do this because I have a newer version of
setup.ini.

I would like to get back to a stable versionwhat is the best way to
proceed ?


-Thanks
Steve More




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RE: problem resizing tunneled xterm

2004-05-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, 13 May 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:

> On Thu, 13 May 2004, Kris Thielemans wrote:
>
> >
> > >
> > > Maybe the local xterm is newer and already contains a fix for
> > > this problem.
> > > I can't think of a different reason why the remote xterm would
> > > behave different.
> > >
> >
> > ok. the debian xterm I'm using is version XFree86 4.2.0(165), while the
> > cygwin is XFree86 4.4(185). Not sure if I can update this right now though,
> > so I won't be able to tell you if that was it. sorry.
>
> Maybe the xterm maintainer Thomas Dickey can shed a light on this. I'll CC him.

offhand I don't recall any changes that would affect that (I'll take a
closer look when I'm home).

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RE: problem resizing tunneled xterm

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Thu, 13 May 2004, Kris Thielemans wrote:

> 
> >
> > Maybe the local xterm is newer and already contains a fix for
> > this problem.
> > I can't think of a different reason why the remote xterm would
> > behave different.
> >
> 
> ok. the debian xterm I'm using is version XFree86 4.2.0(165), while the
> cygwin is XFree86 4.4(185). Not sure if I can update this right now though,
> so I won't be able to tell you if that was it. sorry.

Maybe the xterm maintainer Thomas Dickey can shed a light on this. I'll CC him.

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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Thu, 13 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:

> > Alexander , thank u for ur quick reply I have used ur technique with and 
> > without -from , -fp  , once and they all fail with unable to bind and no 
> > message in the logfile . I have produced the same errors on winXP and 
> > W2K . same thing . Old version 4.3 and 4.4 works fine no problem . is 
> > there a way to get a more diagnosting log . I suspect that there is a 
> > module locking some file which casses this error . The same error can be 
> > reproduced on V 4.3 & 4.4 if use the same port :X we get the same 
> > message faile to bind .
> Alex can u reproduce this problem

no. If I start XWin twice with :1 I get 

winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 1

Fatal server error:
InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 1.  Exiting.

Can you send the commandline which you used to start the xserver? 
What kind of network cards do you use? Do you have any kind of personal
firewall or vpn software installed?

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RE: problem resizing tunneled xterm

2004-05-13 Thread Kris Thielemans

>
> Maybe the local xterm is newer and already contains a fix for
> this problem.
> I can't think of a different reason why the remote xterm would
> behave different.
>

ok. the debian xterm I'm using is version XFree86 4.2.0(165), while the
cygwin is XFree86 4.4(185). Not sure if I can update this right now though,
so I won't be able to tell you if that was it. sorry.

thanks!

Kris



Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-13 Thread aroushdi
aroushdi wrote:
Alexander Gottwald wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:


I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg 
distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have 
Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .


These binaries are likely to be very outdated. We moved to X.org 
because it was easier for Cygwin/X developers to get cvs access there. 
XFree only allowed cvs access for a few people from the core team. We had
to ask them to include the changes into their cvs. As a result the 
XFree cvs was always a few weeks up to some months behind the Cygwin/X 
development.
The cygwin part from XFree may now be about 7 or 8 months old. Many
improvements (eg for multiwindow mode or clipboard support) have not 
been included into the XFree cvs.

My question is Xfree going to be abandoned in favor of Xorg . What is 
the relation between the 2 . The reason I am asking because since the 
move to Xorg binaries i cannot have more than one Xsession at a time .


You can start the first Xserver as usual
XWin [options]
and the second with
XWin :1 [options]
the third with
XWin :2 [options] and so on
This results in display names :0.0, :1.0, :2.0 ...

bye
ago
Alexander , thank u for ur quick reply I have used ur technique with and 
without -from , -fp  , once and they all fail with unable to bind and no 
message in the logfile . I have produced the same errors on winXP and 
W2K . same thing . Old version 4.3 and 4.4 works fine no problem . is 
there a way to get a more diagnosting log . I suspect that there is a 
module locking some file which casses this error . The same error can be 
reproduced on V 4.3 & 4.4 if use the same port :X we get the same 
message faile to bind .

thks for ur help


Alex can u reproduce this problem
thks


Re: SHAPE extension

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Thu, 13 May 2004, David Rigler wrote:

> 
> XWin Release 6.7.0.0-8
> 
> Trying this against the sawfish window manager in fedora core 2 test3 
> gives error message
> "sawfish: your X server doesn't support the SHAPE extension; aborting"
> 
> what's that about ?? is there an add on or conf setting ??

check http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-ssh-no-x11forwarding

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Re: problem resizing tunneled xterm

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Thu, 13 May 2004, Kris Thielemans wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I run a remote xterm via
> 
> ssh -Y mydebianlinuxsystem xterm  
> this works perfectly fine, except when I resize the window (in particular:
> make it wider). It seems that xterm/bash doesn't pick up the new size
> properly. Although output now does fill the new size, I have trouble with
> command recall in bash. Pressing uparrow to get to a long command line (i.e.
> longer than the size of the original window), results in garbled display.
> The line displays truncated at its original size with bits at the start and
> end missing. Pressing left-arrow etc results in lots of fun effects. Ctrl-L
> does display the whole line, but with line breaks at the original width.
> 
> Note that for local xterms, this problem does not exist.

Maybe the local xterm is newer and already contains a fix for this problem. 
I can't think of a different reason why the remote xterm would behave different.

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Re: Tracking Down Disappearing Cursors

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Wilks, Dan wrote:

> So, what's the right fix?  I don't know.  I have a guess.  If XWin is now
> really 100% hardware cursor based then we don't need to do any of this
> cursor wrangling.  My guess is that we could even remove all the
> MouseTrackEvent stuff as well since that only appears to matter to hiding
> and showing the cursor over the client area.

I've wrapped the ShowCursor handling with if (g_fSoftwareCursor). This way
it is not called for hardware cursor but the option -swcursor should restore
the old software cursor behaviour.

I've placed a binary at http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XWin.exe.bz2
Can you please test it with the Terminal Service?

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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, 13 May 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:

> They were based on the XFree 4.3 release. But the hw/xwin part was and still
> is being extended with a lot of features and 6 months make a big difference
> between a broken and a much better clipboard integration.

particularly when most of the work was done in the past three months.
(the related code in mid-December was, if you may choose to recall,
broken).

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SHAPE extension

2004-05-13 Thread David Rigler
XWin Release 6.7.0.0-8

Trying this against the sawfish window manager in fedora core 2 test3 
gives error message
"sawfish: your X server doesn't support the SHAPE extension; aborting"

what's that about ?? is there an add on or conf setting ??

dave




problem resizing tunneled xterm

2004-05-13 Thread Kris Thielemans
Hi

I run a remote xterm via

ssh -Y mydebianlinuxsystem xterm  imperial.ac.uk)
Hammersmith Imanet (formerly IRSL)
Cyclotron Building
Hammersmith Hospital
Du Cane Road
London W12 ONN, United Kingdom

web site address: http://www.hammersmithimanet.com/~kris



Re: Xwin weirdnesses

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Thu, 13 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Since updating to the newest xorg distribution weird things are happening
> with starting Xwin from startxwin.bat.  I used to be able to start multiple
> windows in a 800 by 600 screen with the blackbox window manager.  Now when
> I try that using the -scrollbars -clipboard -screen 0 800 600 no window
> appears although when I kill X it thinks there are 2 clients connected?! I
> removed "run" from in front of Xwin in the batch file and that works, well,
> every other time.  I start startxwin.bat and it pops up the X window but then
> doesn't start the window manager or xterm.  If I kill X and restart, then it
> works (although it crashes at random times - it used to never crash).  Rootless
> and multiwindow work, although I like having all my X stuff in its own window
> and using rootless and multiwindow I don't have the benefits of blackbox (i.e.
> opening a new xterm session by right-clicking).  Is anyone else having these
> problems?

The startupfiles have been modified to start -multiwindow by default. Are you sure 
XWin is not started with that option? Check /tmp/XWin.log. The commandline used
to start XWin is printed there.

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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Thomas Dickey wrote:

> On Wed, 12 May 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> 
> > Thomas Dickey wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 12 May 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>On Wed, 12 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg
> > >>>distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have
> > >>>Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .
> > >>
> > >>These binaries are likely to be very outdated. We moved to X.org because
> > >>it was easier for Cygwin/X developers to get cvs access there. XFree
> > >>only allowed cvs access for a few people from the core team. We had
> > >>to ask them to include the changes into their cvs. As a result the
> > >>XFree cvs was always a few weeks up to some months behind the Cygwin/X
> > >>development.
> > >>
> > >>The cygwin part from XFree may now be about 7 or 8 months old. Many
> > >
> > >
> > > Before saying "may be", it is proper to verify your statements.
> > > The 4.4 binaries are no older than the end of December.
> >
> > So they are old.  Who cares?
> 
> Equally, I might point out that (until the recent bulk import), much
> of cygwin's build tree outside the small area of the Xwin server was
> several months old.

They were based on the XFree 4.3 release. But the hw/xwin part was and still 
is being extended with a lot of features and 6 months make a big difference 
between a broken and a much better clipboard integration.

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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Thomas Dickey wrote:

> On Wed, 12 May 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 12 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:
> >
> > > I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg
> > > distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have
> > > Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .
> >
> > These binaries are likely to be very outdated. We moved to X.org because
> > it was easier for Cygwin/X developers to get cvs access there. XFree
> > only allowed cvs access for a few people from the core team. We had
> > to ask them to include the changes into their cvs. As a result the
> > XFree cvs was always a few weeks up to some months behind the Cygwin/X
> > development.
> >
> > The cygwin part from XFree may now be about 7 or 8 months old. Many
> 
> Before saying "may be", it is proper to verify your statements.
> The 4.4 binaries are no older than the end of December.

I did. The last change to the hw/xwin files was 4 months ago (according to 
wincvs) and those were only changes which were required because some macros
changed. The last major patch for hw/xwin was applied by egbert on
Wed Oct 8 10:13:03 2003 UTC (7 months ago) by eich 

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Re: Using 6.7.0.0-8 Failure to connect to Linux

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Crystal Martin wrote:

> Hello!
> I was successfully using Cygwin to connect my Windows machine to my SuSE 9 until my 
> Windows machine crashed about three weeks ago. Since then, I have not been able to 
> reconnect the two computers. In the meantime, we have new Ethernet switches which I 
> suspect may have triggered the problem? (a colleague who is using the SAME set-up 
> she had previously used successfully can no longer connect either) It only seems 
> broke for SuSE 9. The HP-UX and SuSE 8 machines are all ok. The SuSE 9 machine is 
> using KDM and it is set-up to accept external connections.

> /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -query 192.168.10.29 -nodecoration 
> -lesspointer 

> AUDIT: Wed May 12 15:53:33 2004: 1544 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP 192.168.10.29
>   Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1
>  
> Fatal server error:
> XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 235664007 failed for display 
> 192.168.10.109:0: cannot open display

try starting XWin with

/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -query 192.168.10.29 -from 192.168.10.109 -nodecoration 
-lesspointer 

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Xwin weirdnesses

2004-05-13 Thread dummy
Since updating to the newest xorg distribution weird things are happening
with starting Xwin from startxwin.bat.  I used to be able to start multiple
windows in a 800 by 600 screen with the blackbox window manager.  Now when
I try that using the -scrollbars -clipboard -screen 0 800 600 no window
appears although when I kill X it thinks there are 2 clients connected?! I
removed "run" from in front of Xwin in the batch file and that works, well,
every other time.  I start startxwin.bat and it pops up the X window but then
doesn't start the window manager or xterm.  If I kill X and restart, then it
works (although it crashes at random times - it used to never crash).  Rootless
and multiwindow work, although I like having all my X stuff in its own window
and using rootless and multiwindow I don't have the benefits of blackbox (i.e.
opening a new xterm session by right-clicking).  Is anyone else having these
problems?