Re: X startup hangs
ZoneAlarm is known to change the behaviour of Windows TCP/IP stack and this seems to cause troubles with cygwin since cygwin must provide unix like semantics and has problems if something does not work it was expected. But I tried shutting down Zonealarm-- X still hangs. Do you think it ss really a ZoneAlarm problem? So it is not a problem with insufficient rights to access the network (in fact xkbcomp does not need any network access) but a problem with different/unexpected behaviour of windows subsystems. I doubt this can be solved without digging into the startup code of the cygwin library where it stopped Can you help me solving just the xkb problem (which is not related to network)? I appreciate very much to work with my keyboard. Now i'm using 'startx -- -kb -clipboard' without -multiwindow the X starts hanged. After killing cat.exe, X is ready and I can use it. my little goal is to remove that -kb to regain my keyboard!
RE: startx causing XP (Media Center Edition) blue screen?
Alexander Daniel, This is a response to both of your suggestions and questions (about the engine being used, and video card information). NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5600 Driver Provider: NVIDIA Driver Date: 2/3/2004 Version: 5.4.0.1 Note: This version provided via Windows Update via IE, though it says the driver was provided by NVIDIA. Test Script: - start cygwin shell - startx - ssh -X -l user a.linux.box - startkde Result of test with above parameters: blue screen during KDE splash screen. Result of above test with above parameters, using various engines: - startx -- -engine 1 - startx -- -engine 2 - startx -- -engine 4 - startx -- -engine 8 All blue screens, during various phases of the KDE splash screen. Next, I loaded the drivers from nvidia.com; interestingly, the version provided is: 6/24/2003 4.4.8.2 Results: The same. blue screen Next, I tried drivers at the hp site (it's a zd7000 notebook). 11/18/2003 4.5.1.1 Results: The same. blue screen 12/10/2003 4.7.1.2 Results: The same. blue screen Next, I took a guess that my screen resolution might be an issue, at 1440x900. So, I tried 1024x768. Same results. Blue Screen. So, no luck yet. Any suggestions for further debugging and/or logging? If there's a readme for that, could you point me in the right direction? Other ideas: - Daniel (I think) suggested checking network card drivers; haven't done that yet. - another post suggests possible ZoneAlarm issues. I am running that, but haven't tested turning it off. - others? Stumped! Steve
Re: GTK missing cygX11-6.dll
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Re: X startup hangs
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, electa wrote: ZoneAlarm is known to change the behaviour of Windows TCP/IP stack and this seems to cause troubles with cygwin since cygwin must provide unix like semantics and has problems if something does not work it was expected. But I tried shutting down Zonealarm-- X still hangs. Do you think it ss really a ZoneAlarm problem? ZoneAlarm replaces/hooks some of the libraries providing the TCP/IP stack. Disabling ZoneAlarm still leaves those changes active but ZoneAlarm does not drop packets anymore. So it is not a problem with insufficient rights to access the network (in fact xkbcomp does not need any network access) but a problem with different/unexpected behaviour of windows subsystems. I doubt this can be solved without digging into the startup code of the cygwin library where it stopped Can you help me solving just the xkb problem (which is not related to network)? It is te problem. Normally xkbcomp expects input on stdin. It seems that ZoneAlarm somehow breaks pipes (eg ls | wc) in some circumstances. I think it's the same with cat.exe. It just waits forever the get or receive data. I appreciate very much to work with my keyboard. Now i'm using 'startx -- -kb -clipboard' without -multiwindow the X starts hanged. After killing cat.exe, X is ready and I can use it. my little goal is to remove that -kb to regain my keyboard! Can you send me another strace of the above command? strace -o xinit.strace2 startx -- -kb -clipboard bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
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RE: startx causing XP (Media Center Edition) blue screen?
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Listopad, Steve wrote: Alexander Daniel, This is a response to both of your suggestions and questions (about the engine being used, and video card information). NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5600 Driver Provider: NVIDIA Driver Date: 2/3/2004 Version: 5.4.0.1 Note: This version provided via Windows Update via IE, though it says the driver was provided by NVIDIA. Test Script: - start cygwin shell - startx - ssh -X -l user a.linux.box - startkde Does the notebook have a pcmcia network card? Maybe you can try XWin without having the network drivers active. some wlan drivers (esp rtl chipset) are known to be very unstable. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: X startup hangs
Can you send me another strace of the above command? strace -o xinit.strace2 startx -- -kb -clipboard but startx is not a program... i will send you xinit -- /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwin.exe -kb -clipboard ok?
Re: X startup hangs
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, electa wrote: Can you send me another strace of the above command? strace -o xinit.strace2 startx -- -kb -clipboard but startx is not a program... i will send you xinit -- /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwin.exe -kb -clipboard ok? yes. that's what i meant. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
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Re: X startup hangs
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, electa wrote: Can you send me another strace of the above command? strace -o xinit.strace2 startx -- -kb -clipboard but startx is not a program... i will send you xinit -- /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwin.exe -kb -clipboard ok? I've taken a look but can not find the start of cat.exe. Maybe this is from profile or login script. Anyway I think you should be able to start /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwin.exe -kb -clipboard and then start xterm, or twm or anything else manually export DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm or export DISPLAY=:0.0 twm bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: X startup hangs
Just a reminiscence... To be present in archive ;-) all this problems starts 1 week ago when I upgraded from Zonalarm 4 to ZoneAlarm 5!!! With ZA4 Cygwin'sX works. with ZA5 no.
Re: app crashing on paste
Jack Tanner wrote: Quanta (an HTML editor) starts, and I start editing some file. A few keystrokes later (sometimes Ctrl+V, sometimes TAB) quanta stops accepting all keyboard and mouse input. Other X windows are fine. Then I kill the quanta process, and I get FWIW, the problem goes away thanks to an upgrade to Quanta 3.2.3. To get that for Fedora Core 2, you probably want to use the kde-redhat.sourceforge.net packages of KDE, Quanta, and Openoffice.org.
Re: X startup hangs
I've taken a look but can not find the start of cat.exe. Maybe this is from profile or login script. nope. I checked .bash_profile /etc/profile /etc/profile.d/*.sh startx nobody invoke cat...
Re: X startup hangs
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, electa wrote: I've taken a look but can not find the start of cat.exe. Maybe this is from profile or login script. nope. I checked .bash_profile /etc/profile /etc/profile.d/*.sh startx nobody invoke cat... Maybe not directly but from another program. who would expect xrdb to call /bin/cpp? bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: X startup hangs
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, electa wrote: Take a look at next strace: strace -o xinit.strace3 xinit -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -clipboard same as in the first trace. Right after startup of sh -c xkbcomp ... it stops while waiting for some winsock operation to complete. Can you find why X hangs when I omit '-kb' in cmd-line? with -kb x start xkbcomp to generate the keymap. xkbcomp expects input on stdin but waits forever since ZoneAlarm 5 somehow interferes with pipes in cygwin. I'll send this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] too since it's low level cygwin bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: X startup hangs
newer test: startx -- -kb -clipboard = starts cat and I must kill him to go on xinit -- -kb -clipboard = X startup ok!
Re: X startup hangs
newer test: startx -- -kb -clipboard = starts cat and I must kill him to go on xinit -- -kb -clipboard = X startup ok! and so this is why in my straces there is no cat running: i straced xinit, because startx is not a program!
Re: X startup hangs
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, electa wrote: newer test: startx -- -kb -clipboard = starts cat and I must kill him to go on xinit -- -kb -clipboard = X startup ok! and so this is why in my straces there is no cat running: i straced xinit, because startx is not a program! FYI: you can use 'strace sh -c startx -- -kb -clipboard' to strace startx (or any other shell script). Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton
Re: X startup hangs
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, electa wrote: newer test: startx -- -kb -clipboard = starts cat and I must kill him to go on xinit -- -kb -clipboard = X startup ok! and so this is why in my straces there is no cat running: i straced xinit, because startx is not a program! bash -x /usr/X11R6/bin/startx -- -kb -clipboard lists you everything which is executed by startx bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: X startup hangs
startx -- -kb -clipboard = starts cat and I must kill him to go on xinit -- -kb -clipboard = X startup ok! startx stops after winClipboardProc - Hello and before DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP looking at screen log, the only difference between the two is the cmd line: startx - /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -kb -clipboard xinit - X :0 -kb -clipboard
Can not open the file cygx11-6.dll, help.
Hi, I am trying to install the cygwin on my NEC Versa E120 laptop, which has a Windows XP Home Edition (Chinese Version) operation system. The system popped up an error message of Can not open the file cygx11-6.dll at the the process of around 99% installation. I skipped this error and continued the installation. And it turns out that I can not bring the remote terminal to local host by xhost + remote host and xterm -display local host:0 commands. Except that, the cygwin seems work properly. Thanks for your help and hope to hear from you soon. Best Regards. Sincerely, - Sen Zhou 330L Higgins, Department of Physics Boston College, MA 02467 Telephone: 617-552-3599 Homepage: www2.bc.edu/~zhouse -
Arrigo Benedetti - Cygwin-X hangs all at a sudden
I have the EXACT same problem with cygwin/X (see URL below, obtained via google search for cygwin X11R6 server hangs). Except I am running Windows 2000 Professional not XP. This is my employer's machine, so I am assuming a recent Microsoft critical update patch or something has now broken the cygwin X server. Is there any new word/advice regarding this issue. Also, I see that xfree86 seems to have been removed from setup.exe? Can you explain the relationship, if any, between xfree86 and X11? As I said, it seems now that only X11 is available under setup.exe and all the XFree86 packages I (think) I once had installed show up under ZZZRemovedPackages under setup.exe. Thanks. Sincerely Todd Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-07/msg00037.html Arrigo Benedetti - Cygwin-X hangs all at a sudden.url Arrigo Benedetti - Cygwin-X hangs all at a sudden.url Description: Binary data
Re: Can not open the file cygx11-6.dll, help.
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, sen zhou wrote: Hi, I am trying to install the cygwin on my NEC Versa E120 laptop, which has a Windows XP Home Edition (Chinese Version) operation system. The system popped up an error message of Can not open the file cygx11-6.dll at the the process of around 99% installation. I skipped this error and continued the installation. And it turns out that I can not bring the remote terminal to local host by xhost + remote host and xterm -display local host:0 commands. Except that, the cygwin seems work properly. please check http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-07/msg00090.html bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: Arrigo Benedetti - Cygwin-X hangs all at a sudden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the EXACT same problem with cygwin/X (see URL below, obtained via google search for cygwin X11R6 server hangs). Except I am running Windows 2000 Professional not XP. This is my employer's machine, so I am assuming a recent Microsoft critical update patch or something has now broken the cygwin X server. Is there any new word/advice regarding this issue. Unfortunatly not. I've not received more information about the windows update. Maybe you can provide more information. Also, I see that xfree86 seems to have been removed from setup.exe? Can you explain the relationship, if any, between xfree86 and X11? As I said, it seems now that only X11 is available under setup.exe and all the XFree86 packages I (think) I once had installed show up under ZZZRemovedPackages under setup.exe. We changed the code base from xfree86 to xorg because it was easier for us to incorporate changes into the xorg code than into the xfree86 codebase. This was prativly not a big change since our first xorg release was very close to the xfree 4.4 release. The old packages were removed and are now only available as empty packages in ZZZRemoved to provide a clean update. bye ago NP: Skinny Puppy - I'mmortal -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
gtk tools
I just reinstalled these with setup. They installed ok. I have no idea what they are, but will fire up X11 to see what they do. Bobby
RE: Arrigo Benedetti - Cygwin-X hangs all at a sudden
As a followup, I have found that, after some reinstallation, I can run startxwin.bat and pop an xterm and also serve remote connections (which is why I wanted cygwin/X in the first place). So my original problem appears to be with startx and probably relates to my/default .xinitrc file or something. startx always worked before... but now I have a workaround. Sincerely, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ryder, Todd Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Arrigo Benedetti - Cygwin-X hangs all at a sudden I have the EXACT same problem with cygwin/X (see URL below, obtained via google search for cygwin X11R6 server hangs). Except I am running Windows 2000 Professional not XP. This is my employer's machine, so I am assuming a recent Microsoft critical update patch or something has now broken the cygwin X server. Is there any new word/advice regarding this issue. Also, I see that xfree86 seems to have been removed from setup.exe? Can you explain the relationship, if any, between xfree86 and X11? As I said, it seems now that only X11 is available under setup.exe and all the XFree86 packages I (think) I once had installed show up under ZZZRemovedPackages under setup.exe. Thanks. Sincerely Todd Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-07/msg00037.html
X starting difficulties
I just sat down with a colleague here who has never previously been able to run X on his XP laptop. I got it working, but *only* by doing this: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -multiwindow - nothing else that I could think of could start X. (The laptops here typically have ZoneAlarm installed, but I don't think it's implicated this time since I was able to get X to work, as above.) His initial problem was the Cannot find font: fixed error. Once we followed the faq workaround for that (re-install the fonts), we began to make some progress. I tried several ways to start X, which all failed: From Cygwin bash shell: startx -- ... XWin was started with the following command line: X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard ... winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winClipboardProc - Call to select () failed: -1. Bailing. winClipboardProc - XDestroyWindow succeeded. winClipboardIOErrorHandler! I got the same problem using a local .bat script that does this: rem The D: gets replaced by the real Cygwin drive during installation: D: chdir \cygwin\bin bash --login -c PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin; startx -- -multiwindow Thinking it was a problem with the -clipboard option, I tried removing it in the proper way, by creating a file ~/.xserverrc containing: userserverrc=-multiwindow That lead to worse problems (quite worrying, I think) - ... XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -multiwindow ... winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard is not enabled, returning. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress winMultiWindowWMIOErrorHandler! winInitMultiWindowWM - Caught IO Error. Exiting. winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress In contrast, here are pieces of the XWin.log when started via /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -multiwindow XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -multiwindow ... winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard is not enabled, returning. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. Here's a diff output of the log from the successful way () and an unsuccessful attempt that had clipboard turned off (): 53a54,59 winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress winMultiWindowWMIOErrorHandler! winInitMultiWindowWM - Caught IO Error. Exiting. winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress Here's a diff output of the log from the successful way () and an unsuccessful attempt that had clipboard turned on (): 9c9 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -multiwindow --- X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard 39c39,40 winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409) --- (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409) 51c52,53 winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard is not enabled, returning. --- winInitClipboard () winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. 52a55,57 winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 53a59,64 winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winClipboardProc - Call to select () failed: -1. Bailing. winClipboardProc - XDestroyWindow succeeded. winClipboardIOErrorHandler! Also, we couldn't start any X applications from the Cygwin menu items via the Windows Start bar; apparently /usr/X11R6/bin isn't in the path, so none of the commands were found. luke
Recent X installation oddity
In the last couple of days, we've done several cygwin fresh installs and updates. In every case we get the X problem Cannot find font: fixed, afterwards. In every case, the directory C:/cygwin/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts exists, it contains the directory misc, that directory contains hundreds of files, yet we get the error message. And, as per the FAQ, we then have to umount /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, re-run setup, select all the X fonts, and choose reinstall. This is both on absolutely fresh machines (Windows XP just installed), and on an update to an older Cygwin system. (Which may have had the same problem before running setup again, admittedly.) Any idea what's wrong? It used to be that X normally worked after an install. Now it seems to fail with this problem each time. I'm planning to automate (as far as I can), the FAQ fixup, in our local post-install script. (Unfortunately, I don't think I can drive setup.exe from the command line to reinstall the fonts directly, can I? Are there files I could remove from the install afterwards, so that a second run of setup could be done that would find that the X fonts were gone and proceed to install them?) Also, I was wondering why /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts is mounted anyway? Since / is mounted, you can reach it using that same path. If it was so that you could remount it elsewhere if you wanted to, because you didn't have the space to hold 40MB (heh: tiny, these days!), then you could do the mount then ... Just wondering. luke
Re: Recent X installation oddity
On 16 Jul, To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last couple of days, we've done several cygwin fresh installs and updates. In every case we get the X problem Cannot find font: fixed, afterwards. Two more installs today, with the same problem. luke
X failures if two users
If two people use the same machine, and the first starts X, the second person can't start X unless they have administrator rights. Cygwin sets /tmp to have mode drwxrwxrwt which means ordinary users can't remove /tmp/XWin.log if it's owned by someone else. So subsequent attempts to start X fail because it can't write the log file. My suggestion would be for X to create the file called /tmp/XWin.log.$USER luke PS: Note that unlike Unix, it is possible for a user to remove a file that some other user created in a directory with the above permissions, provided they have administrator privileges on a machine.
Re: Recent X installation oddity
On 16 Jul, To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last couple of days, we've done several cygwin fresh installs and updates. In every case we get the X problem Cannot find font: fixed, afterwards. If it's of any interest, we have mirrored Cygwin from kernels.org (and update each night via rsync). luke
