Re: Minimal replacement for Exceed

2004-11-02 Thread Jani Tiainen
Boaz Harrosh wrote:
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I want to find a replacement for Hummingbird Exceed.  I know that 
Cygwin includes an X server, but I'm not interested in all of Cygwin.  
What would be the minimum I'd need to install to be able to run 
Cygwin/X?  In case it matters, I'd like to run the X server with the 
-multiwindow and -clipboard parameters.

Thanks!
Amanda
 

Dear Amanda !
I have packed a Wise-Installer with a some-what minimal installation. It 
uses the windows fonts and this way saves 14M of fonts. It does include 
a full bash + utils and SSH so it is not as minimal as it can be. The 
Install.exe is about 12M.

I can send you the .exe but you will find that it has some specialized 
stuff  for the purpose it was made. (automatic connection to a Linux 
application server). I can also send you the files listing, and the wise 
script, so you can pack your own.
Files listing and script would be nice to lookat. Any possiblility to 
have it online somewhere?

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Re: Multiwindows launches but nothing happens

2004-11-02 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, ROBERT T JOAN V SAVAGE wrote:

 Hi,

 I have installed cygwin and am having troubles running xwin or xwin
 -multiwindows.

 Running xwin pops open window, but has not drop down menus to start, for
 instance and xterm.

 If I run xwin -multiwindow nothing seems to happen.  The log file is as
 follows:

 Welcome to the XWin X Server
 Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
 Release: 6.8.1.0-5
 [snip]
 XWin was started with the following command line:
 X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard
 [snip]
 winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
 winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display.
 [snip]

What exactly did you expect would happen?  The log shows the X server as
started and waiting for connections.  Now you need to open an X
application (e.g., xterm) -- it won't be opened automatically when you
start the X server directly the way you did (by running XWin.exe).

You have a few choices:

- Install the X-startup-scripts, and use either startxwin.sh or startx
to start the X server (both will, IIRC, open at least an xterm for you).

- Install the X-start-menu-icons package and use the Start menu to open
whatever applications you need.

- Use the old-fashioned way and open a regular Cygwin console (via the
Cygwin icon on your desktop), and from the prompt run

DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 xterm 

- Do the above, but run a window manager instead (provided you're in
non-multiwindow mode, which in itself is a window manager).  Most X window
managers (e.g., twm, fvwm, WindowMaker, openbox) will have a desktop menu
that allows to start X applications.  Note that only twm comes with X by
default, others have to be installed separately.

- Starting the X server should have created an icon in your system tray.
ISTR there was some work on adding a menu to that icon that would let you
start applications and control the X server.  Don't know if that was ever
completed, though, or if it's been included in the default XWin package...

There are other ways, but they are more arcane... :-)
Igor
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Re: Multiwindows launches but nothing happens

2004-11-02 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

 [snip]
 - Do the above, but run a window manager instead (provided you're in
 non-multiwindow mode, which in itself is a window manager).  Most X window

s/which in/because multiwindow mode/

 managers (e.g., twm, fvwm, WindowMaker, openbox) will have a desktop menu
 that allows to start X applications.  Note that only twm comes with X by
 default, others have to be installed separately.

Sorry for the confusion,
Igor
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Re: Files in /tmp/.X11-unix not getting cleaned up..

2004-11-02 Thread Alexander Gottwald
David Suarez wrote:



 I have setup Cygwin/X on Windows Terminal Services and have been running it using 
 the approach that each new user gets there own port. 

 Everything runs dandy except under some circumstance it appears the socket/file in 
 the /tmp/.X11-unix/ directory is not cleaned up when X is closed.  In those cases, 
 on startup for a non-admin rights user, they receive a fatal error.  To fix all I do 
 is go into the directory and delete the offending file (I confirm that there is no X 
 server on that port first).  Since the work-around works, I attempted to add that 
 to the script the user's kick off to delete the hanging file if it's there.  
 Unfortunately since this only happens if the previous user of that port was 
 different, a permission error occurs.

this a quite often asked question. You could solve this with per-user mounted
/tmp directory. eg.

mkdir $HOME/tmp
mount -buf $(cygpath -m $HOME/tmp) /tmp

This will create a temp directory in the users home directory and map /tmp
to that directory.

bye
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Re: X11 problems

2004-11-02 Thread Alexander Gottwald
Marc Jourdeuil wrote:





 I can't run X programs from my PC anymore, across the VPN.

 How do I turn on X11 forwarding with cygwin? Will that solve the problem?

DISPLAY=:0.0 ssh -Y remotehost

Check the FAQ about this. There are a lot of answers about X11Forwarding.

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Re: Multiwindows launches but nothing happens

2004-11-02 Thread Robert Savage
Thanks for the response.
I do not understand why the x-startup-scripts are not installed.
I have tried a number of sites to install from selecting
all packages. 

Are the startup scripts something that need manual installation?
If so how is this done.
Or is the a site that you recommend installing from?

Thanks

Robert
 On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, ROBERT T JOAN V SAVAGE wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I have installed cygwin and am having troubles running xwin or xwin
  -multiwindows.
 
  Running xwin pops open window, but has not drop down menus to start, for
  instance and xterm.
 
  If I run xwin -multiwindow nothing seems to happen.  The log file is as
  follows:
 
  Welcome to the XWin X Server
  Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
  Release: 6.8.1.0-5
  [snip]
  XWin was started with the following command line:
  X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard
  [snip]
  winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
  winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the 
  display.
  [snip]
 
 What exactly did you expect would happen?  The log shows the X server as
 started and waiting for connections.  Now you need to open an X
 application (e.g., xterm) -- it won't be opened automatically when you
 start the X server directly the way you did (by running XWin.exe).
 
 You have a few choices:
 
 - Install the X-startup-scripts, and use either startxwin.sh or startx
 to start the X server (both will, IIRC, open at least an xterm for you).
 
 - Install the X-start-menu-icons package and use the Start menu to open
 whatever applications you need.
 
 - Use the old-fashioned way and open a regular Cygwin console (via the
 Cygwin icon on your desktop), and from the prompt run
 
   DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 xterm 
 
 - Do the above, but run a window manager instead (provided you're in
 non-multiwindow mode, which in itself is a window manager).  Most X window
 managers (e.g., twm, fvwm, WindowMaker, openbox) will have a desktop menu
 that allows to start X applications.  Note that only twm comes with X by
 default, others have to be installed separately.
 
 - Starting the X server should have created an icon in your system tray.
 ISTR there was some work on adding a menu to that icon that would let you
 start applications and control the X server.  Don't know if that was ever
 completed, though, or if it's been included in the default XWin package...
 
 There are other ways, but they are more arcane... :-)
   Igor
 -- 
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 The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total
 Lunar eclipse... -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT