Re: manual installation of the x11 packages
Daniel Newhouse wrote: Is there a way to install the x11 packages without using setup.exe? Like a script file? David, What you mentioned on the cygwin mailing, the dll is the xorg dll. Go ahead and install xorg now. It will be OK. Trust me. I just installed cygwin and xorg this morning, and its been working ever since. I installed cygwin first, and then xorg. I download both from the net, simply installing from the net. I have ADSL, and a very fast connection (3.00 Mb per second, although the ftp site I use only sends at 300 Kb per second.) The net is slow to me, because of the speed of my net connection. Its not me. I have a connection that is made for playing games, though i use it to download GPL software and other software. Another thing I did yesterday, was installing cygwin and xorg seperately, from a local directory, and that worked too. Its installing both at the same time that causes problems. Its not my software. Wednesday, I tried barebones with nothing but Office 2000. Same problems. I was not running Zone Alarm or Defender Pro Antispy. So the problem is setup. The error I got yesterday was that it was opening too many files (setup) and not closing them. Too many files open. I sent in my cygcheck.out. And reset the computer this morning. Had to reload all my software (not much, just my DVD writer, PVR, and some other software) I installed cygwin in two stages and started work on compiling GCC 3.4.3 and Timidity. I plan on comipiling a cygwin only X based timidity. I'll put it on my website. I'm counting on the user to get his/her own soundfount because my upload limit at Yahoo is 5 megabytes, and the smallest soundfont I found is 8 mb. There are plenty of soundfonts. The X of timiidty will look great under Xorg. Its going to use Xaw3d. Yes, I found a use for the widgets. I've built the X version of Timidity before. Won't take long to compile it.
manual installation of the x11 packages
Is there a way to install the x11 packages without using setup.exe? Like a script file? __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only
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--- Begin Message --- cygcheck.out.after2 Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Sat Nov 13 10:59:42 2004 Windows XP Home Edition Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Path: c:\program files\imagemagick-5.5.7-q16 C:\WINDOWS\system32 C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec) UID: 400(bruno)GID: 401(mkpasswd) 401(mkpasswd) Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec) UID: 400(bruno)GID: 401(mkpasswd) 401(mkpasswd) SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32 WinDir: C:\WINDOWS Path = `c:\program files\imagemagick-5.5.7-q16;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel' ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\bruno\Application Data' CommonProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs' COMPUTERNAME = `BRUNOFONTENAY' ComSpec = `C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe' FP_NO_HOST_CHECK = `NO' HOMEDRIVE = `C:' HOMEPATH = `\Documents and Settings\bruno' LOGONSERVER = `\\BRUNOFONTENAY' NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' OS = `Windows_NT' PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH' PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 13 Stepping 6, GenuineIntel' PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0d06' ProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files' PROMPT = `$P$G' SESSIONNAME = `Console' SystemDrive = `C:' SystemRoot = `C:\WINDOWS' TEMP = `C:\TEMP' TMP = `/tmp' USERDOMAIN = `BRUNOFONTENAY' USERNAME = `bruno' USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\bruno' windir = `C:\WINDOWS' POSIXLY_CORRECT = `1' HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 (default) = `/cygdrive' cygdrive flags = 0x0022 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 (default) = `/cygdrive' cygdrive flags = 0x0022 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ (default) = `C:\cygwin' flags = 0x000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin' flags = 0x000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib' flags = 0x000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options c: hd NTFS 57231Mb 20% CP CS UN PA FC d: cd UDF1.024482Mb 100% CPUN 041010_2211 y: net NTFS 57857Mb 32% CP CSPAbruno z: net NTFS 57857Mb 32% CP CSPACommun . /cygdrive userbinmode,cygdrive C:\cygwin / system binmode C:\cygwin/bin /usr/bin system binmode C:\cygwin/lib /usr/lib system binmode . /cygdrive system binmode,cygdrive Found: .\awk.exe Found: .\bash.exe Found: .\cat.exe Found: .\cp.exe Found: .\cpp.exe Found: .\find.exe Found: .\gcc.exe Found: .\gdb.exe Found: .\grep.exe Found: .\ld.exe Found: .\ls.exe Found: .\make.exe Found: .\mv.exe Found: .\rm.exe Found: .\sed.exe Found: .\sh.exe Found: .\tar.exe 91k 2004/11/01 .\cygapr-0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygapr-0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/11/1 17:45 67k 2004/11/01 .\cygaprutil-0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygaprutil-0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/11/1 17:48 77k 2004/06/04 .\cygart_lgpl_2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygart_lgpl_2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/6/4 12:20 802k 2003/09/15 .\cygaspell-15.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygaspell-15.dll" v0.0 ts=2003/9/15 14:32 123k 2004/09/29 .\cygatk-1.0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygatk-1.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/9/30 1:16 145k 2004/09/02 .\cygaudiofile-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygaudiofile-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/9/2 5:38 336k 2004/10/27 .\cygbonobo-2-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbonobo-2-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/27 9:43 72k 2004/10/27 .\cygbonobo-activation-4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbonobo-activation-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/27 1:19 425k 2004/10/29 .\cygbonoboui-2-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbonoboui-2-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/29 1:12 55k 2004/09/14 .\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/9/14 6:16 54k 2002/01/27 .\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/27 2:07 18k 2004/07/06 .\cygcharset-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygcharset-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/7/6 20:09 227k 2004/10/24 .\cygclamav-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygclamav-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/24 17:58 529k 2004/06/27 .\cygcppunit-1-9-14.dll - os=
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--- Begin Message --- cygcheck.out.after1 Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Sat Nov 13 10:54:59 2004 Windows XP Home Edition Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Path: c:\program files\imagemagick-5.5.7-q16 C:\WINDOWS\system32 C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec) UID: 400(bruno)GID: 401(mkpasswd) 401(mkpasswd) Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec) UID: 400(bruno)GID: 401(mkpasswd) 401(mkpasswd) SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32 WinDir: C:\WINDOWS Path = `c:\program files\imagemagick-5.5.7-q16;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel' ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\bruno\Application Data' CommonProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs' COMPUTERNAME = `BRUNOFONTENAY' ComSpec = `C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe' FP_NO_HOST_CHECK = `NO' HOMEDRIVE = `C:' HOMEPATH = `\Documents and Settings\bruno' LOGONSERVER = `\\BRUNOFONTENAY' NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' OS = `Windows_NT' PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH' PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 13 Stepping 6, GenuineIntel' PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0d06' ProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files' PROMPT = `$P$G' SESSIONNAME = `Console' SystemDrive = `C:' SystemRoot = `C:\WINDOWS' TEMP = `C:\TEMP' TMP = `/tmp' USERDOMAIN = `BRUNOFONTENAY' USERNAME = `bruno' USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\bruno' windir = `C:\WINDOWS' POSIXLY_CORRECT = `1' HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 (default) = `/cygdrive' cygdrive flags = 0x0022 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 (default) = `/cygdrive' cygdrive flags = 0x0022 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ (default) = `C:\cygwin' flags = 0x000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin' flags = 0x000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib' flags = 0x000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options c: hd NTFS 57231Mb 20% CP CS UN PA FC d: cd UDF1.024482Mb 100% CPUN 041010_2211 y: net NTFS 57857Mb 32% CP CSPAbruno z: net NTFS 57857Mb 32% CP CSPACommun . /cygdrive userbinmode,cygdrive C:\cygwin / system binmode C:\cygwin/bin /usr/bin system binmode C:\cygwin/lib /usr/lib system binmode . /cygdrive system binmode,cygdrive Found: .\awk.exe Found: .\bash.exe Found: .\cat.exe Found: .\cp.exe Found: .\cpp.exe Found: .\find.exe Found: .\gcc.exe Found: .\gdb.exe Found: .\grep.exe Found: .\ld.exe Found: .\ls.exe Found: .\make.exe Found: .\mv.exe Found: .\rm.exe Found: .\sed.exe Found: .\sh.exe Found: .\tar.exe 91k 2004/11/01 .\cygapr-0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygapr-0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/11/1 17:45 67k 2004/11/01 .\cygaprutil-0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygaprutil-0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/11/1 17:48 77k 2004/06/04 .\cygart_lgpl_2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygart_lgpl_2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/6/4 12:20 802k 2003/09/15 .\cygaspell-15.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygaspell-15.dll" v0.0 ts=2003/9/15 14:32 123k 2004/09/29 .\cygatk-1.0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygatk-1.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/9/30 1:16 145k 2004/09/02 .\cygaudiofile-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygaudiofile-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/9/2 5:38 336k 2004/10/27 .\cygbonobo-2-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbonobo-2-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/27 9:43 72k 2004/10/27 .\cygbonobo-activation-4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbonobo-activation-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/27 1:19 425k 2004/10/29 .\cygbonoboui-2-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbonoboui-2-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/29 1:12 55k 2004/09/14 .\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/9/14 6:16 54k 2002/01/27 .\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/27 2:07 18k 2004/07/06 .\cygcharset-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygcharset-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/7/6 20:09 227k 2004/10/24 .\cygclamav-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygclamav-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/24 17:58 529k 2004/06/27 .\cygcppunit-1-9-14.dll - os=
Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only
cygcheck.out.before Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Sat Nov 13 10:45:39 2004 Windows XP Home Edition Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Path: c:\program files\imagemagick-5.5.7-q16 C:\WINDOWS\system32 C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec) UID: 400(bruno)GID: 401(mkpasswd) 401(mkpasswd) Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec) UID: 400(bruno)GID: 401(mkpasswd) 401(mkpasswd) SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32 WinDir: C:\WINDOWS Path = `c:\program files\imagemagick-5.5.7-q16;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel' ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\bruno\Application Data' CommonProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs' COMPUTERNAME = `BRUNOFONTENAY' ComSpec = `C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe' FP_NO_HOST_CHECK = `NO' HOMEDRIVE = `C:' HOMEPATH = `\Documents and Settings\bruno' LOGONSERVER = `\\BRUNOFONTENAY' NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' OS = `Windows_NT' PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH' PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 13 Stepping 6, GenuineIntel' PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0d06' ProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files' PROMPT = `$P$G' SESSIONNAME = `Console' SystemDrive = `C:' SystemRoot = `C:\WINDOWS' TEMP = `C:\TEMP' TMP = `/tmp' USERDOMAIN = `BRUNOFONTENAY' USERNAME = `bruno' USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\bruno' windir = `C:\WINDOWS' POSIXLY_CORRECT = `1' HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 (default) = `/cygdrive' cygdrive flags = 0x0022 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 (default) = `/cygdrive' cygdrive flags = 0x0022 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ (default) = `C:\cygwin' flags = 0x000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin' flags = 0x000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib' flags = 0x000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options c: hd NTFS 57231Mb 20% CP CS UN PA FC d: cd UDF1.024482Mb 100% CPUN 041010_2211 y: net NTFS 57857Mb 32% CP CSPAbruno z: net NTFS 57857Mb 32% CP CSPACommun . /cygdrive userbinmode,cygdrive C:\cygwin / system binmode C:\cygwin/bin /usr/bin system binmode C:\cygwin/lib /usr/lib system binmode . /cygdrive system binmode,cygdrive Found: .\awk.exe Found: .\bash.exe Found: .\cat.exe Found: .\cp.exe Found: .\cpp.exe Found: .\find.exe Found: .\gcc.exe Found: .\gdb.exe Found: .\grep.exe Found: .\ld.exe Found: .\ls.exe Found: .\make.exe Found: .\mv.exe Found: .\rm.exe Found: .\sed.exe Found: .\sh.exe Found: .\tar.exe 91k 2004/11/01 .\cygapr-0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygapr-0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/11/1 17:45 67k 2004/11/01 .\cygaprutil-0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygaprutil-0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/11/1 17:48 77k 2004/06/04 .\cygart_lgpl_2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygart_lgpl_2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/6/4 12:20 802k 2003/09/15 .\cygaspell-15.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygaspell-15.dll" v0.0 ts=2003/9/15 14:32 123k 2004/09/29 .\cygatk-1.0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygatk-1.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/9/30 1:16 145k 2004/09/02 .\cygaudiofile-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygaudiofile-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/9/2 5:38 336k 2004/10/27 .\cygbonobo-2-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbonobo-2-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/27 9:43 72k 2004/10/27 .\cygbonobo-activation-4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbonobo-activation-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/27 1:19 425k 2004/10/29 .\cygbonoboui-2-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbonoboui-2-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/29 1:12 55k 2004/09/14 .\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/9/14 6:16 54k 2002/01/27 .\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/27 2:07 18k 2004/07/06 .\cygcharset-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygcharset-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/7/6 20:09 227k 2004/10/24 .\cygclamav-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygclamav-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/24 17:58 529k 2004/06/27 .\cygcppunit-1-9-14.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
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Dear sir or madam: I am a bit scared about the way I start xfig. I have my cygwin bash window open. I type in startx and then a xterm window opens. I would llke to start xfig so I type in xfig and it opens the program expect a statement appears in the xterm window saying "Warning: Actions not found: Start Scroll" Oh by the way, I don't think I set up my environmental variables because I don't know how to? Can you show me? Sincerely, Khalid Al-Kalla _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: XWin -multiwindow and XEmacs/gnuclient -- cannot get autoraise
Harold Bamford wrote: > I tried this using XWin without the builtin window manager (using twm or mwm > as the window manager) and then autoraise seems to work. But this is not a > good environment for me as I need constant access to both the X windows and > the PC. > > I have done quite a bit of searching of the web and FAQs and manual pages and > cannot find this even mentioned. So either it is so obvious that no-one could > possibly need it explained, or it has just never come up. Or I used the wrong > keywords in the searches. It seems this feature has not been implemented in the internal window manager. > So, what's the secret to getting this to work? There are basicly 3 possible ways - wait until someone has the time to dig up documentation how the autoraise should work and fixes that bug - dig up the documentation yourself and report which window manager message should be handled - fix it yourself The fastest is most likely number two. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723