a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X?

2005-09-22 Thread Bobber Cheng

Hi All,

I search the post(http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2005-06/msg00627.html) 
at cygwin mailing list.


Had anyone found a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on 
Linux via ssh / X? If the answser is no, i beg X gurus to give me any 
advice how to implement it. Wine and VNC are not my choice.


Bests,
Bobber Cheng

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Re: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X?

2005-09-22 Thread Michel Bardiaux

Bobber Cheng wrote:

Hi All,

I search the post(http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2005-06/msg00627.html) 
at cygwin mailing list.


Had anyone found a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on 
Linux via ssh / X? If the answser is no, i beg X gurus to give me any 
advice how to implement it. Wine and VNC are not my choice.


You will have to explain what you exactly meant by 'wine' and 'vnc' and 
why you dont want them.


E.g. one possibility would be to run the windows app on a windows 
machine using *wine in cygwin*.




Bests,
Bobber Cheng




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Re: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X?

2005-09-22 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Bobber Cheng wrote:

 Had anyone found a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on 
 Linux via ssh / X? If the answser is no, i beg X gurus to give me any 
 advice how to implement it. Wine and VNC are not my choice.

An alternative to Terminal client or cytrix is rdesktop. But besides that
there is no working solution to wrap windows programs with X11. You might
want to take a look at cygpeace which is not much more than a prove of 
concept which allowed to export winmine over x11.

http://www.freedesktop.org/~ago/cygpeace/

Before begging X gurus (which btw is the wrong group to ask) you should
check the win32-x11 archives http://sourceware.org/ml/win32-x11/ starting 
with July - September, 2002 until July - September, 2004. Some techniques 
for wrapping and redirecting windows GDI calls to X11 were discussed there
but most of the initial activity vaporized after few months.

Basicly there are a few ways which might work:

- build a display driver which uses X11 as backend
  x11_drv from wine might provide the conversion to X11 calls
- wrap GDI calls from applications with own, X11 aware implementations
  cygpeace aproach
- Check how Terminal Client works and implement a backend which uses X11 
  instead of RDP

bye
ago
BTW: Use rdesktop.
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Re: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X?

2005-09-22 Thread Bobber Cheng
Wine is a win32 emulator in Unix, *wine in cygwin* need to install lot 
of thing. The worst is that wine is currently under heavy development, 
many win32 apps could not run on it. e.g. IE.


VNC will share whole screen, i hope only app's wins would be shared. 
Although some version VNC(TightVNC http://www.tightvnc.com/) could 
share a window, but the result is pool. Unless some 
NX(http://www.nomachine.com/) cache tech integrate with VNC. it's not a 
consideration.


Michel Bardiaux wrote:


Bobber Cheng wrote:


Hi All,

I search the 
post(http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2005-06/msg00627.html) at cygwin 
mailing list.


Had anyone found a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on 
Linux via ssh / X? If the answser is no, i beg X gurus to give me any 
advice how to implement it. Wine and VNC are not my choice.



You will have to explain what you exactly meant by 'wine' and 'vnc' 
and why you dont want them.


E.g. one possibility would be to run the windows app on a windows 
machine using *wine in cygwin*.




Bests,
Bobber Cheng







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Re: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X?

2005-09-22 Thread Hr. Daniel Mikkelsen
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Bobber Cheng wrote:

 Wine is a win32 emulator in Unix, *wine in cygwin* need to install lot
 of thing. The worst is that wine is currently under heavy development,
 many win32 apps could not run on it. e.g. IE.

Wine runs IE:

  http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=ie6

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RE: xrdb needs cpp, but i do not need gcc

2005-09-22 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message
From: Corinna Vinschen
Sent: 22 September 2005 11:07

 On Sep 22 09:23, Karl-Olov Serrander wrote:
 Seems that xrdb uses cpp when processing .Xdefaults, but cpp is only
 included in gcc package. So xorg should depend on gcc but why not make
 cpp a separate package since gcc is a very large package ?
 
 I have already asked this in cygwin.xfree without any answers.
 
 Any comments ?
 
 Wrong mailing list.  

  No it isn't really, because the real question is Could cpp be packaged
separately from gcc, regardless of whether for an X app that needs it or
otherwise, and the answer is No, it can't be, because the preprocessor is
built into the compiler these days, not a standalone like it used to be; the
seeming standalone cpp.exe is just a driver that invokes cc1.exe with the -E
flag.

[  Historical note: And that's the reason why cygcheck always used to say  

Not Found: cpp (good!)

because when it was a standalone it used to live in the gcc-lib subdir and
it was generally bad news if you got that in your $PATH, things used to
break.  ]

cheers,
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Re: xrdb needs cpp, but i do not need gcc

2005-09-22 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Sep 22 12:06, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 On Sep 22 09:23, Karl-Olov Serrander wrote:
  Seems that xrdb uses cpp when processing .Xdefaults, but cpp is only
  included in gcc package. So xorg should depend on gcc but why not make cpp a
  separate package since gcc is a very large package ?
  
  I have already asked this in cygwin.xfree without any answers.
  
  Any comments ?
 
 Wrong mailing list.  Redirected to cygwin-xfree.  Please follow up there.

Ouch, sorry.  I didn't read your mail completely, obviously.


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Re: Pseudo Colors on Solaris

2005-09-22 Thread Brian Willis
I had this very same problem with HP.  The way I got around it was to 
start a X session in fullscreen mode with the windowmanager of your 
choice in 8 bit color.  Not a sexy solution, but it worked.  For us it's 
only for a few apps.


Brian Willis
OHD/NWS NOAA

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Greetings

A little more info.  I can very the color numbers in rgb.txt and the
colors in my xterm windows will change.  :)
The colors in my solaris window do not change.  :(  I used an app that
came with AutoIT to verify colors in the windows.  When I slide the
mouse over something red in a xterm window the app showed me the color
number.  I can change the '255 0 0' in rgb.txt to '255 40 40' and the
app will show '255 40 40'.  But in the solaris window, '255 0 0' always
reads '255 0 0' no mater what I change in rgb.txt. 
Am I shooting in the right (or left) direction or do xwindow calls from

an outside unix box not use color maps or settings on the localhost?
Thanks for any direction or kind words.
Jb

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RE: Cygwin/X keyboard layout problem

2005-09-22 Thread Jose Canelas


 On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Jose Canelas wrote:
 
  I got your e-mail from the
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/CygwinXTroubleShooting 
 where you offer
  help for misconfigured international keyboard layouts, and 
 I believe my
  problem matches your description.
 
 I'm not maintaining Cygwin/X anymore. But I'll redirect the 
 mail to the Cygwin/X mailing list.

Oh. Sorry. And thank you.

Regards,
jmc

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RE: Pseudo Colors on Solaris

2005-09-22 Thread James.Bassett

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Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:51 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Pseudo Colors on Solaris

I had this very same problem with HP.  The way I got around it was to
start a X session in fullscreen mode with the windowmanager of your
choice in 8 bit color.  Not a sexy solution, but it worked.  For us it's
only for a few apps.

Brian Willis
OHD/NWS NOAA

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings
 
 A little more info.  I can very the color numbers in rgb.txt and the 
 colors in my xterm windows will change.  :) The colors in my solaris 
 window do not change.  :(  I used an app that came with AutoIT to 
 verify colors in the windows.  When I slide the mouse over something 
 red in a xterm window the app showed me the color number.  I can 
 change the '255 0 0' in rgb.txt to '255 40 40' and the app will show 
 '255 40 40'.  But in the solaris window, '255 0 0' always reads '255 0

 0' no mater what I change in rgb.txt.
 Am I shooting in the right (or left) direction or do xwindow calls 
 from an outside unix box not use color maps or settings on the
localhost?
 Thanks for any direction or kind words.
 Jb
 
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Hi, thanks for the reply!
I had thought about and tried that.  When I do that I get really weird
colors. (white is greenish yellow, red is blue-ish, ...)  I also tried
from windows setting XWIN to run in 256 colors from the 'compatibility'
tab in properties. This worked also plus it let me use multiwindow but
the colors were still messed up but not quite as bad.  (red was red 255
0 0 but white was also red 255 0 0).  When I do not do ether, I can sort
of see the image but it is very very dark.
I know it can be done because Exceed does it.  I am currently looking
for more info on how to use the -cc and -co.  Maybe I can come up with
some kind of custom mapping.  The Sun box runs an app called blink_task
to flash some of the colors so I know it is trying to change about 70 of
the 256 colors to something custom.  
The more I dig, the deeper I get.
Thanks
Jb


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