Re: XWin on taskbar

2012-08-06 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 03/08/2012 15:42, Eliot Moss wrote:
> The patched run.exe seems to work for me as well.

Thanks for testing.

I am still uncertain if you are seeing the same, similar or a different
problem to me, though, so it would be helpful if you could confirm or deny if
the extra taskbar button you see with the unpatched run behaves in the same
way as I described.

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Re: XWin on taskbar

2012-08-06 Thread Eliot Moss

On 8/6/2012 8:04 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:

On 03/08/2012 15:42, Eliot Moss wrote:

The patched run.exe seems to work for me as well.


Thanks for testing.

I am still uncertain if you are seeing the same, similar or a different
problem to me, though, so it would be helpful if you could confirm or deny if
the extra taskbar button you see with the unpatched run behaves in the same
way as I described.


Sorry I did not describe more completely, but yes, that's
the exact behavior I see also.

Regards -- EM

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Re: AW: 'de' keyboard layout issues (Re: AW: AW: AltGr key mostly fires an additional CONTROL key)

2012-08-06 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 16/08/2011 14:10, Jon TURNEY wrote:
> On 12/08/2011 07:48, Paul Maier wrote:
>> 1. Tilde sign
>> -
>>
>> Yes, file "de" patched with your de.patch and XWin invoked with "-xkbvariant
>> nodeadtilde"
>> results in a German Windows keyboard (regarding the tilde).
>>
>> I did just a renaming of the Group description there to match the pattern of
>> the other
>> xkbvariants.
> 
> I'd really appreciate it if you could re-open the upstream bug [1] for the
> tilde issue, ideally with a suitable patch and referencing this discussion.
> 
> I'd also suggest you send your other suggested changes to the xkb list [2], as
> I'm not really qualified to review them.
> 
> [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9752
> [2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/XKeyboardConfig/Development

xkeyboard-config bug #9752 [1] has been resolved with a change [2] to make the
tilde not a dead key in the german keyboard layout.

Perhaps you could try the lastest xkeyboard-config from git and confirm that
the change is correct :-)

If you have any other issues with the xkeyboard-config data for the german
keyboard layout, it might be more efficient to engage directly with the
xkeyboard-config maintainer, as he has a lot more expertise in this area than
I do.

[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9752
[2]
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xkeyboard-config/commit/symbols/de?id=49129c6358eebd248f83457dfef4ec58ad8e584c

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Re: AW: AW: 'de' keyboard layout issues

2012-08-06 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 03/10/2011 12:27, Paul Maier wrote:
>>> In Windows, all blind keys followed by a space result in that character.
>>> Same in XWin, but with one exception:
>>> dead-´ plus space gives ' instead of ´.
>>>
>>> Please check out my patch for that.
>> [...] for files /usr/share/x11/locale/iso8859-1/Compose and
>   /usr/share/x11/locale/iso8859-15/Compose.
> 
>>
>> This patch makes sense to me, but doesn't seem to go far enough.  Since the
>> compose sequences are selected by the locale, this fixes things if
>> LANG=de_DE.iso8859-1 or LANG=de_DE.iso8859-15, but not if LANG=de_DE.UTF-8.
>>
>> I'll try to take another look when I'm back from my holiday :-)

Sorry, I lost track of this issue.

> agreed, my patch is a partial solution.
> 
> Is there an issue tracker in use, where we can put my patch and the idea 
> behind it?

I would suggest you mail a patch to libX11 to the xorg-devel list [1],[2].

> agreed.
> But isn't a partial fix better than no fix?  8-)

I can't really evaluate if this change is correct or not, which is why I
suggest you take it to the xorg-devel list.

For example, after reading [3], I'm wondering if the reason for this behaviour
is that typists had the habit of pressing the acute key for an apostrophe.

On the one hand, it's been this way for at least 5 years, so people may be
used to this behaviour.  On the other hand, it's inconsistent with the rule
that   produces , and inconsistent across locales what
this sequence produces:

jon@byron /jhbuild/checkout/xorg/lib/libX11/nls master
$ grep -r "^ " *
el_GR.UTF-8/Compose.pre: : "΄"   U0384
en_US.UTF-8/Compose.pre: : "'"
apostrophe # APOSTROPHE
fi_FI.UTF-8/Compose.pre: : "´"   #
ACUTE ACCENT
iso8859-1/Compose.pre:   : "'"   
apostrophe
iso8859-14/Compose.pre:  : "'"   
apostrophe
iso8859-15/Compose.pre:  : "'"   
apostrophe
iso8859-2/Compose.pre:   : "\264"
  acute
iso8859-3/Compose.pre:   : "'"   
apostrophe
iso8859-7/Compose.pre:   : "\264"
  acute
iso8859-9/Compose.pre:   : "'"   
apostrophe
iso8859-9e/Compose.pre:  : "'"   
apostrophe
pt_BR.UTF-8/Compose.pre: : "'"   
apostrophe
vi_VN.tcvn/Compose.pre:  : "'"   
apostrophe
vi_VN.viscii/Compose.pre:: "'"   
apostrophe

[1] http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-devel
[2] http://www.x.org/wiki/DeveloperStart
[3] http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/apostrophe.html

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Re: AW: AW: possible to run XWin as windows service?

2012-08-06 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 28/07/2012 14:08, Paul Maier wrote:
>>
>> The cygwin program run.exe is designed to do just that.
>> It's what I use for this purpose :-) ...
>>
> 
> thank you for your input. 8-)
> 
> I was using run.exe too. run.exe used to hide the window and the task bar 
> entry.
> But since my upgrade from Cygwin 1.7.9 to 1.7.15, run.exe only hides the 
> window but not the task bar entry, when invoked from the
> Startup menu in some cases.
> 
> This seems buggy, see my thread: 
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-07/msg00473.html
> But I don't have the impression that a developer accepted this as bug.
> 
> Do you have a suggestion how to avoid this situation?

You might try the patched run from [1] and see if that improves matters.

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RE: XWin on taskbar

2012-08-06 Thread Ross Boulet
> On 03/08/2012 15:42, Eliot Moss wrote:
> > The patched run.exe seems to work for me as well.
> 
> Thanks for testing.
> 
> I am still uncertain if you are seeing the same, similar or a different 
> problem
> to me, though, so it would be helpful if you could confirm or deny if the 
> extra
> taskbar button you see with the unpatched run behaves in the same way as I
> described.
> 
> --
> Jon TURNEY
> Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer
> 

On my Win 7 Pro, I never had the extra taskbar item. But on my Win 7 Home 
Premium laptop, the patched version of run eliminated the extra item.


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Re: Levovo trackpoint events come delayed (reproducable with xev)

2012-08-06 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 22/07/2012 01:39, Paul Maier wrote:
> this problem still exists, it makes the Lenovo trackpoint unusable with 
> xterm. 
> Some months ago you provided me XWin.20120129-git-45e67e363e19a481.exe,
> but it didn't run on my computer. Yesterday I have upgraded my Cygwin, all 
> packages to current (Cygwin 1.7.15).
> Maybe a debugging .exe would run now on my machine.
> 
> If you want me to try again, please let me know.

Yes, I think there were some unrelated issues which prevented that snapshot
from working for you.

I've produced an updated snapshot [1], if you could try that in the same way
as before, that would be helpful.

> Download the latest snapshot built with debugging enabled from [1]
> Run it using 'WIN_DEBUG_MESSAGES=1 ./XWin -logverbose 3  options, -multiwindow for example>'
> Open up an xterm
> You should then be able to see WM_MOUSEWHEEL messages being delivered in the
> debug output from XWin when you use the trackpoint scrolling.  Are they being
> delivered on time?

Please send me the full XWin.0.log

[1] ftp://cygwin.com/pub/cygwinx/XWin.20120806-git-25dd890818f3e308.exe.bz2

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Xemacs - Choosing an alternate font.

2012-08-06 Thread Tom Szczesny
Hi -
I am attempting to use Xemacs with Cygwin to edit an
A+ script which requires a special font.

I have:
installed the required fonts in /usr/share/fonts/misc
added the fonts to /usr/share/fonts/misc/fonts.alias
successfully run "mkfontdir"
and "xset fp rehash"

After I run "startxwin"
and fire up Xemacs
the font that gets used is "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono"

When I use the "Options" menu and go to "Fonts"
many fonts show up including the one that I want (Kapl),
Bitstream Vera Sans Mono has the filled in green diamond
indicating that it is the current font selected.

Any attempt to switch to any other font fails.
Any suggestions?

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