Re: new start method questions

2016-06-09 Thread Marco Atzeri

On 10/06/2016 02:55, mathog wrote:

On 09-Jun-2016 16:32, mathog wrote:

With an older version of Cygwin I had constructed a cut down
distribution which included only the minimum pieces needed to run X11.
 It was about 40Mb, installed.


This approach is not working well at all for the current release.  Last
time around I just tossed things into a folder to temporarily hide them,
and by process of elimination winnowed it down to that small size.  This
time there are many, many, MANY more dll's that are required for the
server to start, at least  via this method:

C:\cygwinX\bin\run.exe --quote /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c "cd; exec
/usr/bin/startxwin"

For instance, cyggtk-x11-2.0.0.dll.  Take it out and the X11 server does
not start.
That dll, according to "ldd" has everything but the kitchen sink linked
into it.  It isn't linked directly into the server though, it is needed
for "xwin-xdg-menu.exe",
an accessory program, which if removed from /usr/bin, also results in
the server not starting.



look on
/etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc

It is calling xwin-xdg-menu

Regards
Marco



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Re: new start method questions

2016-06-09 Thread mathog

On 09-Jun-2016 16:32, mathog wrote:

With an older version of Cygwin I had constructed a cut down
distribution which included only the minimum pieces needed to run X11.
 It was about 40Mb, installed.


This approach is not working well at all for the current release.  Last 
time around I just tossed things into a folder to temporarily hide them, 
and by process of elimination winnowed it down to that small size.  This 
time there are many, many, MANY more dll's that are required for the 
server to start, at least  via this method:


C:\cygwinX\bin\run.exe --quote /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c "cd; exec 
/usr/bin/startxwin"


For instance, cyggtk-x11-2.0.0.dll.  Take it out and the X11 server does 
not start.
That dll, according to "ldd" has everything but the kitchen sink linked 
into it.  It isn't linked directly into the server though, it is needed 
for "xwin-xdg-menu.exe",
an accessory program, which if removed from /usr/bin, also results in 
the server not starting.


Last time around the start bat script was just:

@echo off
set CYGXTOP=%~dp0
C:
chdir "%CYGXTOP%\var\log\xwin"
move XWin.0.log.1 XWin.0.log.2
move XWin.0.log XWin.0.log.1
chdir "%CYGXTOP%\bin"
start Xwin :0 -multiwindow

Is there some reason that a similar cut down bat file would not work 
with the current cygwin X11 server? (With "-listen tcp" plus a windows 
firewall rule to only let it

talk to localhost.)

Thanks,

David Mathog
mat...@caltech.edu
Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech

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new start method questions

2016-06-09 Thread mathog

Hi,

With an older version of Cygwin I had constructed a cut down 
distribution which included only the minimum pieces needed to run X11.  
It was about 40Mb, installed.


Since the X11 server update the start method changed.  The .bat file 
which starts things now has this as its active line:


C:\cygwinX\bin\run.exe --quote /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c "cd; exec 
/usr/bin/startxwin"


Unfortunately this method creates a "/home/username" directory.  The 
startxwin part

isn't the culprit, just starting bash does it.  This is sufficient:

C:\cygwinX\bin\run.exe --quote /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c "cd; ls"

Is there a way to run startxwin without allowing bash to make a new home 
directory? Leaving off the "-l" does not create the home directory - it 
also does not start the X11 server.


This distribution is intended to work with putty's ssh, not the ssh in 
cygwin.  To get putty to work these changes were made to startxwin:


defaultserverargs=""
to
defaultserverargs=" -listen tcp"

and

eval xinit \"$client\" $clientargs -- \"$server\" $display $serverargs

to

#rotate the log files, keep 2 older ones
cp -f /var/log/xwin/XWin.0.log.1 /var/log/xwin/XWin.0.log.2
cp -f /var/log/xwin/XWin.0.log /var/log/xwin/XWin.0.log.1
(sleep 5; export DISPLAY=$defaultdisplay; xhost +localhost)&
eval xinit \"$client\" $clientargs -- \"$server\" $display $serverargs

I really don't like the cludgy way xhost is started.  However, it does 
work, or at least it works the "most of the time" when the X11 server 
starts within 5 seconds. Ideally it would be more like this:


(xinit \"$client\" $clientargs -- \"$server\" $display $serverargs)&
export DISPLAY=$defaultdisplay;
xhost +localhost
wait

This doesn't work though.  The first line throws an error with that 
syntax, the part within the parens doesn't just use eval, it apparently 
requires it.  Anybody know the correct syntax for this variant?  xhost 
might fail because it starts before the X11 server is working, but I can 
deal with that once the background start is going.


Thanks,

David Mathog
mat...@caltech.edu
Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech

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