RE: 1.5.18: I give up...

2005-07-26 Thread David Masterson
Boaz Harrosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:45 AM:

 David Masterson wrote:

 I guess I'll give Cygwin some time to mature and come back to it
 in the future. 

 It is all working here very well. (XP SP2 latest updates) It is
 obviously something with your setup.

I agree.  The word mature was probably not the best -- I intended it to
mean my environment more than Cygwin.

 Maybe an old cygwin1.dll somewhere. Or an extra local Firewall, or all
 local ports close, or ...

I recently found out that my IP address had two names and I'm still
investigating the effects of that.
 
 But if it is only X you need try out Xming (googleit) . It has a nice
 simple Installer and not so many things to break up.

Hmmm.  Thanks.


David Masterson

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1.5.18: I give up...

2005-07-25 Thread David Masterson
Well, I've tried to install the latest version of Cygwin from
mirrors.kernel.org onto my Windows-XP (SP2) system several times now without
much luck.  I'm pretty sure (based on previous usage and all the other people
using it) that its a problem in my environment, but I don't know what.  I'm
wasting too much time to try to solve this, so I'll have to look for another
way.  My goal was to install the Cygwin X server so that I could display X
programs from other systems locally.  Along the way, I ran into a number of
issues (minor to large) that I'll mention here:

*   I chose to use setup.exe (v2.457.2.2) to download everything to a
local directory and then install my choices (usually everything) from the
local directory.  This generally works well and I have no problems with the
process, but...
*   At my work, I have to use a proxy server with (I guess) a weird port
number.  Although I filled this information into setup.exe and it worked fine
with it, setup forgot the port number on subsequent runs (it fell back to
port 80).
*   When looking at the categorized list of things to select to install,
I would expand a category by clicking on the +.  Most systems would change
the + to a -, but not setup.exe (a very minor issue).
*   After installing everything, if I couldn't get X to work properly
(see below), I would immediately use setup.exe to uninstall everything.
While doing the uninstall of some packages, setup.exe would report missing
DLL(s), but it didn't give an indication of what to do about it (other than
acknowledge the error).
*   After I installed everything and had modified my /etc/passwd and
/etc/group, I tried to bring up the X server via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh.
It brought up the X server and tried to bring up the xterm, but the xterm
died before it finished printing my prompt.  I've posted about this before,
but no replies to this and I haven't got the time to do the serious debugging
necessary.
*   Previously with 1.5.17, the xterm did come up properly, but Emacs
(started locally or remotely) would immediately fail.  XEmacs (started
locally or remotely) would seem to work until you tried to exit and then
would crash.

I guess I'll give Cygwin some time to mature and come back to it in the
future.


David Masterson

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FW: Installation issues (newbie)

2005-06-20 Thread David Masterson
Someone on the Cygwin list suggested I post this here.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of David Masterson
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 4:43 PM
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Installation issues (newbie)


I used to use Cygwin a long time ago and am now coming back to it.

My setup:

*   Dell Precision Workstation 370
*   MS-Windows XP Pro v5.1.2600

Step 1: Install Cygwin

*   I used setup.exe to first download all of Cygwin to my local hard
drive.  I do this so that, if I install it a few times, I don't have to hit
the Internet after the first time.  Somewhat faster.
*   After downloading everything, I used setup.exe to install the
Default.  A couple of times, this gave me errors in the postinstall steps
about some DLL, but it didn't repeat consistently, so...
*   After I installed, I brought up Bash and got the usual message about
/etc/passwd  /etc/group.  I used mkpasswd and mkgroup to fill them in.
*   Default (I believe) doesn't install MAN pages or editors, so
figuring out what mkpasswd/mkgroup did and/or adjusting it is kind of
difficult.  This should be fixed or documented better.

Step 2: Get an X server working

*   Default doesn't install any X, so I reran setup.exe to do an All
install (I have room).  This got me a Cygwin/X menu in the Start menu list,
but didn't provide any obvious way of starting an X server.
*   Suggestion: Have setup.exe add an icon for startxwin.bat to the
Desktop.  I manually did that.
*   Double-clicking startxwin.bat brings up an X server and xterm with
the root window hidden.  Xclock also seems to work properly.

Step 3: Get an editor running

*   Starting emacs from the xterm window brings up emacs, but it
immediately crashes when you try to do anything in it.
*   Starting xemacs from the xterm window seems a little better as you
can do things in it, but it crashes when you try to exit from XEmacs.
*   I then did an xhost + to disable access control.
*   Running emacs from an RHEL3 system with the display pointed at my
Cygwin system brought up a window, but immediately crashed.
*   Running xemacs from the RHEL3 system with the display pointed to my
Cygwin system worked much better and seemed normal (most times!).  I tested
this a few times and XEmacs did crash once.

So what's wrong with the X server in Cygwin?  Since I'm just getting going, I
posted this to the cygwin mailing list -- later I may move to the
cygwin-xfree mailing list.

David Masterson


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