Re: gvim tiny font in 1.7.7 (back again)
Jon, et al -- ...and then Jon TURNEY said... % % On 28/10/2010 02:41, David T-G wrote: % > % >...and then Jon TURNEY said... % >% ... % >% You might compare the appearance of the fonts shown by 'xfd -fa Courier' % >% and 'xfd -fn -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*' to test that. % > % >I'm back with xfd loaded now. Sure enough, the two are distinctly % >different; the former is smaller than the latter, although not so tiny as % >to be invisible as in gvim. This sure sounds like a lead, though! ... % % The fonts aren't supposed to be visually identical, as they are potentially % different fonts being draw by different renderers. But the sizes should be % approximately the same. OK. That makes sense. % % Let me try asking the question a different way: Does 'xfd -fa % "Courier-10:style=Bold"' show a reasonably sized font at the same time as % gvim, with that font set, doesn't? (In which case one might conclude this % is probably a gvim bug) They are quite similar. Interestingly, however, trying Courier-18:style=Bold Courier-24 Courier-48:style=Italic all look exactly identical (and the latter nonetheless shows "Regular" at the top). When I 'select a character' they all show "width: 6" and "(font 7,2)"; the Bolds show "left 0" while the Regulars show "left 1". Could the fonts all be coming from the same source instead of being sized properly, maybe? % % I don't think this is quite the same problem as reported by Frédéric Bron, % as you don't seem to be using -resize. Ah. Definitely not. % % -- % Jon TURNEY % Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer Thanks again & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt pgpsEE7p8Aj1Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gvim tiny font in 1.7.7 (back again)
Frédéric -- ...and then Frédéric Bron said... % % > But perhaps you mean that gvim is the only application which shows this % > problem? % % When I have the problem, it is not only gvim but also gv for example. % It seems it has to do with screen resolution change (see my previous % email). I didn't see that, but perhaps because I am not a list subscriber and didn't see it go by. I don't use many X apps, however, so there isn't much comparison :-/ % Frédéric Thanks & HANN :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt pgps5vR1TZe3f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gvim tiny font in 1.7.7 (back again)
Jon, et al -- ...and then Jon TURNEY said... % % On 25/10/2010 11:25, David T-G wrote: % > ... % >Any more ideas? :-( % ... % But perhaps you mean that gvim is the only application which shows this % problem? Yup -- so far, anyway. % % You might compare the appearance of the fonts shown by 'xfd -fa Courier' % and 'xfd -fn -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*' to test that. I'm back with xfd loaded now. Sure enough, the two are distinctly different; the former is smaller than the latter, although not so tiny as to be invisible as in gvim. This sure sounds like a lead, though! I am leery of posting attachments to the mailing list, so I haven't attached screen shots of the xfd layouts. In addition, I ran xlsfonts and it generated 2582 lines; that's probably more than I should paste here. Let me know what information I can provide, however. S... What do I do to make my fonts all be happy? Thanks again & HANN :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt pgp5R3NhcgBi8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gvim tiny font in 1.7.7 (back again)
Jon, et al -- ...and then Jon TURNEY said... % % On 25/10/2010 11:25, David T-G wrote: % > ... % >Any more ideas? :-( % % More questions, certainly. % ... % You might compare the appearance of the fonts shown by 'xfd -fa Courier' % and 'xfd -fn -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*' to test that. Oops... No xfd installed at the moment. In fact, of my /usr/bin/x* programs, I think that only xterm and xpdf are applicable, and xpdf essentially just shows graphics. I'll report back as soon as I can install xfd and give it a try :-) In the mean time, if you can recommend any other programs to be sure I have so as to run tests, let me know. Thanks again & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt pgp9Blizv5nhv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gvim tiny font in 1.7.7 (back again)
Hi again, folks -- ...and then David T-G said... % ... % I hate these kinds of errors because it's so incredibly hard to get a % real resolution to the problem, but I'll not turn down having my gvim % work again :-) Even that is taken from me now. I had gvim happily open on a file, closed it, opened another file, and we're tiny. When I have set guifont=Courier\ Bold\ 10 in my .vimrc it is at least visible, although still small, and doesn't change with the font size, but it does change size if I specify different fonts (ie Lucida at any size is wider than Courier or Courier Bold at any size, while Times New Roman is very small); when I comment it out I'm back to the crazy tiny that I had before. Any more ideas? :-( TIA again & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt pgpRG5AbPgGfo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gvim tiny font in 1.7.7
Hi again, all -- I didn't hear any reply to my last note (or even see it posted), but in case that one made it out and this one can as well, ... ...and then David T-G said... % % ...and then Jon TURNEY said... % % ... % % Does 'xrdb -query | grep dpi' output anything? % % Alas, no; in fact, % % xrdb -query % % doesn't return anything at all. I haven't loaded any Cygwin updates. I haven't loaded any Windows updates. I still get nothing from xrdb. I've rebooted more times than I can remember. I'm using the same user account. As far as I can tell, nothing has changed. But suddenly it works! After this morning's reboot, I was restarting everything (always a chore under Windows *sigh*) and on a lark tried gvim again. I was floored to see it come up quite visibly, and even with some font I didn't quite recognize. Typing :set guifont showed me that it was sans, which is interesting but probably came from not being able to find Lucida Console on my machine. I changed my guifont line in my .vimrc file to Courier Bold and it worked just fine. I ripped it out entirely and I go tthe familiar gvim font. I played with the size in my guifont line and gvim behaved. I selected my font in gvim itself countless times and it behaved. WTF?!? I hate these kinds of errors because it's so incredibly hard to get a real resolution to the problem, but I'll not turn down having my gvim work again :-) Thanks to all for trying to help! :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt pgpr02ZYe40ev.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gvim tiny font in 1.7.7
Jon, et al -- ...and then Jon TURNEY said... % % On 01/10/2010 11:23, David T-G wrote: % > ... % >When I first started gvim after my install, the font was invisibly tiny % >both for the content and for the menus. [Note that both xterm and rxvt-X ... % % I'm assuming gvim is behaving as if you have a massive DPI, i.e. if you % increase the font size, it does get bigger, but just not big enough to be % readable? Correct. In fact, I dare say it's well-nigh undetectable; I can't even make out any text at all. % % Does 'xrdb -query | grep dpi' output anything? Alas, no; in fact, xrdb -query doesn't return anything at all. % % -- % Jon TURNEY % Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer Thanks again & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt pgphjnevUb43g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gvim tiny font in 1.7.7
Jon, et al -- Sorry for the tardy response; both work AND life got in the way suddenly. ...and then Jon TURNEY said... % % On 22/09/2010 16:34, David T-G wrote: % > % >[Let's see if I can provide all of the details the first time instead of % >having to go back and forth just for foundation... :-] % % Can you attach your /var/log/XWin.0.log, please? [snip] Attached. Thanks again! HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt XWin.0.log.gz Description: application/gunzip pgpamVmCKWuub.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gvim tiny font in 1.7.7
Hi again, all -- ...and then David T-G said... % % Hi, all -- % ... % When I first started gvim after my install, the font was invisibly tiny % both for the content and for the menus. [Note that both xterm and rxvt-X [snip] Frederic asked if I had restarted my X server. I have logged out and in and even rebooted numerous times since installing but still have the same problem. TIA again & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt pgpBl87946LZ7.pgp Description: PGP signature
gvim tiny font in 1.7.7
Hi, all -- [Let's see if I can provide all of the details the first time instead of having to go back and forth just for foundation... :-] I have used Cygwin for years and have been using the cygwin gvim (versus the Windows-native vim + gvim) for some time now. I had occasion to do a fresh install of 1.7.7 on a freshly-rebuilt laptop after a hard drive crash and so I don't think that I have any of the upgrade gotchas biting me, but stranger things have happened :-) When I first started gvim after my install, the font was invisibly tiny both for the content and for the menus. [Note that both xterm and rxvt-X are fine.] Using another computer to see where I was going and matching the keystrokes I attempted to set the font to "Lucida Console 12" but found no change. I have manually (a bummer, but I gather from the FAQs that the lack of dependency linking is temporary) added the font-bh-dpi75 and font-bh-lucidatypewriter-dpi75 packages with no effect. I have set the guifont variable in my .vimrc file, and the tiny window was somewhat differently sized but still tiny. Finally, I have of course googled for "cygwin +gvim +font (size or tiny)" and similar to see what others have found, but I haven't matched anything more useful than the guifont setting. What do I need to fix and where to make my gvim readable? TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt pgpwzkq2bb7MB.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: cannot type in my xterm after new installation
Jon, et al -- % -Original Message- % From: Jon TURNEY [mailto:jon.tur...@dronecode.org.uk] % Subject: Re: cannot type in my xterm after new installation % % On 20/07/2009 16:20, THORBURN-GUNDLACH, DAVID T-G (ATTSI) wrote: % > ... % > I've noted other posts on how to get rid of the toolbar but didn't % > actually see where (.Xdefaults? xapplres? other?) and how % (???) to do % > so, so I'm dealing with it at the moment. % % http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-how-do-i-get- % rid-of-xterm-menu Thanks! % ... % > What do I need to do to be able to actually type anything? :-) % % http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-i-cant-type-anything Grrr... I very carefully looked through the FAQ, figuring I wasn't the only one, but somehow missed this. Thank you for your kind direction :-) HAND :-D -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
cannot type in my xterm after new installation
Hi, all -- I've just done a fresh Cygwin install on a new laptop and have run into some interesting challenges. I copied over my old startxwin.bat file from another machine and can now throw up an xterm and such, but all is still not well. I've noted other posts on how to get rid of the toolbar but didn't actually see where (.Xdefaults? xapplres? other?) and how (???) to do so, so I'm dealing with it at the moment. More interestingly, though, is that I cannot interact with an xterm after it opens no matter what sorts of toolbar changes I make. I can *see* my prompt there but can't actually do anything! The same goes for an rxvt-x terminal, although an rxvt-native term works just fine. What do I need to do to be able to actually type anything? :-) TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G davi...@cingular.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
