aterm refresh bug

2004-08-18 Thread Ian . McIntosh
Hi,

Has anybody fixed or found a solution or workaround to the aterm refresh
bug, where a transparent aterm window will only display typed characters
and output once you drag or resize the window?  I've seen some discussion
of it in messages here, but nothing to hint at an answer.  I've also tried
it with various window managers, all with the same result.

cheers,
Ian



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Re: installing a window manager - help please - answers to helpersquestions

2004-08-09 Thread Ian . McIntosh
Right, I finally managed to get somewhere.  Not with fvwm, but at least
with a window manager, openbox.  In the end I had to:

- edit startx so that
defaultserverargs=""
because otherwise by default it will open in multiwindow mode which will
conflict with any window manager,

and then

- provide a C:\.xinitrc file which just contains
exec openbox

I then got overconfident and tried to configure, make and install fvwm2
(the latest version, which is required if you want to use fvwm-themes), and
it wasn't looking good so I decided I was being a bit fancy and cut my
losses, reverting back to openbox.  Maybe later.

Thanks for the help anyway guys.
cheers,
Ian



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Re: installing a window manager - help please - answers to helpersquestions

2004-08-09 Thread Ian . McIntosh
>I'm a little confused by the copying of xterms and the reflection of
commands between xterms.

>what happens when you try "xterm &" in a x-term window?

It generates another two xterms, i.e. one embedded in the background and
one completely separate window; again, they mirror each other, even to the
point that if I drag the separate one around, the embedded one moves within
the background.  Weird huh.

cheers,
Ian



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Re: installing a window manager - help please - answers to helpers questions

2004-08-09 Thread Ian . McIntosh
Ok, thankyou to all the replies so far - I appreciate it very much.  It's
still not working but here are the answers to your questions:

-
>From Ken Dibble -
>Immediately after you do the install (i.e. before you make changes),
>what happens when you double-click startxwin.bat?

It starts X (I get the X in the toolbar) and a basic bash terminal window.
-
>From Thomas Chadwick -
>Have you found/read this?
> http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting

Yep, but all it says is the different ways of starting, none of which bring
up a window manager with the ability to do things like spawn a new xterm.
This is where I start to feel frustrated, because it seems that you're
implying that this part of the guide tells you how to do that, but I can't
for the life of me see where.
--
>From Fergus -

3.   /usr/X11R6/bin/run /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -nolisten local -multiwindow
 /bin/xterm -display localhost:0.0

Ok, I tried that, and what happens is that I get a background (i.e. the
start of what might eventually become a window manager!) and then in a
different Windows window I get an xterm.  This xterm is also copied as an
embedded xterm in the background, and I can type commands in either and
they are reflected in the other.  If I shut one then the other shuts. I
can't right click on the background and create another xterm.

Thanks again, and any other suggestions are very welcome,
Ian




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installing a window manager - help please

2004-08-09 Thread Ian . McIntosh
Hi,

I'm feeling pretty frustrated and stupid at the moment, because after 3
days of installing/reinstalling cygwin, trying to install various window
managers like fvwm, and trying the various configurations and start methods
of same, I can't get so much as a basic window manager started with the
ability to open a new xterm.

Some configurations give me the seemingly infamous "can't open
display:localhost:0.0"  (I've tried 127.0.0.1 also), whilst some will
complain that there's another window manager running (I can't find anything
in the task manager that would be another wm).

I'm going a bit crazy here as there doesn't seem to be any step-by-step
setup instructions (for cygwin AND a window manager) anywhere on the net
that I can find.  If this is wrong, please correct me.  I've obviously read
things like (http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-window-managers.html) which
give the basic theory, i.e. you can't run more than one wm etc, but there
doesn't seem to be anything explaining how to get a basic setup working
BEFORE doing anything fancy with configurations.

 Alternatively, if there's somewhere that someone has a complete install
zipped up that I could potentially grab and just run it, that'd be great.

I realise this is all open-source software and I'm not moaning about
anything other than my own lack of ability to get this working.

Any help is appreciated.
cheers,
Ian





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