Re: XWin hangs on opening xterms: Conflict with software FRITZ!DSL Startcenter
Jack Tanner hotmail.com> writes: > Norbert Harendt wrote: > >>Could it be a firewall of some sort? > > > > It is a kind of firewall used with german DSL-router > > Cygwin/X is known to conflict with some software firewalls, like > ZoneAlarm, even if they are only installed and not running. It works > fine, however, with the Windows XP SP2 Personal Firewall. You may just > have to uninstall the Fritz software. Perhaps you could use a hardware > firewall built into a router like a Linksys WRT54G instead of the Fritz one. Thanks for your hints. I tried out a similar strategy. I uninstalled the Fritz software and installed agnitum firewall, now Cygwin/X is running fine. In parallel i contacted AVM (the vendor of Fritz software) and informed them of the malfunction. Perhaps one day in future i can use fritz software again ... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: XWin hangs on opening xterms: Conflict with software FRITZ!DSL Startcenter
Jack Tanner hotmail.com> writes: > $ strings sh.exe | grep dll > dll_crt0__FP11per_process > cygwin1.dll > cygintl-3.dll > cygreadline6.dll > KERNEL32.dll > > Could it be that the FRITZ!DSL software somehow inserts itself into the > loading process? Yes, i think so > Could it be a firewall of some sort? It is a kind of firewall used with german DSL-router > Can you play with > not loading the FRITZ stuff (without uninstalling it), and running Xwin > then? Yes, i tried, but XWin showed the same failure -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: XWin hangs on opening xterms: Conflict with software FRITZ!DSL Startcenter
Larry Hall (Cygwin X cygwin.com> writes: > > Norbert Harendt wrote: > > Larry Hall (Cygwin X cygwin.com> writes: > > > > > >>On 10/11/2005, Norbert Harendt wrote: > >> > >>>OK. What i can see, is that calling or running the shell causes the > >>>problems in my case. XWin is coming up and running fine, i get the logon > >>>screen of the remote server and everything seems to be fine. But if i try > >>>to open an xterm on the remote server, XWin seems to hang, no grafical > >>>update, nothing happens (with enough patience you can watch this going on > >>>forever). When i kill the second XWin.exe suddenly the xterm appears and > >>>everything is working fine again, except for the heavy cpu-load, which was > >>>not present in my former installation. > >> > >>Perhaps it makes sense to look at why you have a second XWin running. > >> > > > > > > > > OK. I don't know at that time, why there is a second XWin.exe starting. Yes > > i also think, that this is the clue to the problem. The start of the > > second XWin.exe must happen internally, because the script starting > >XWin -clipboard -lesspointer -query 192.168.1.100 -once > > calls XWin.exe only once. At the time of the program call is no other XWin.exe > > running. Is there a possibility to view what is happening internally, extended > > logging features or somethins else ?? > > I don't know. But perhaps it's better to come at this from the other > direction. If you can provide a small test case/script that reproduces the > problem for you, then others on the list could verify whether or not they > see the same problem. > I opened /bin/sh.exe with Microsoft Visual C++ in order to see, which DLLs will be loaded on startup of sh.exe, the complete list follows: "Q:\progs.win\cygwin\bin\sh.exe" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\ntdll.dll" wurde geladen. "Q:\progs.win\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\advapi32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\kernel32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\rpcrt4.dll" wurde geladen. "Q:\progs.win\cygwin\bin\cygintl-3.dll" wurde geladen. "Q:\progs.win\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll" wurde geladen. "Q:\progs.win\cygwin\bin\cygreadline6.dll" wurde geladen. "Q:\progs.win\cygwin\bin\cygncurses-8.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\user32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\gdi32.dll" wurde geladen. cYg 610EC77CcYgstd 22eeb0 d 3"C:\WINNT\system32\wsock32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\ws2_32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\msvcrt.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\ws2help.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\winrnr.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\wldap32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\Programme\FRITZ!DSL\SARAH.DLL" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\msvcr71.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\Programme\FRITZ!DSL\BLOCK.DLL" wurde geladen. "C:\Programme\FRITZ!DSL\Avmcsock.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\Programme\FRITZ!DSL\AVMUFC.DLL" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\MFC71.DLL" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\shlwapi.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\comctl32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\rnr20.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\dnsapi.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\iphlpapi.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\icmp.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\mprapi.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\samlib.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\netapi32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\secur32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\netrap.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\ole32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\oleaut32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\activeds.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\adsldpc.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\rtutils.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\setupapi.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\userenv.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\rasapi32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\rasman.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\tapi32.dll" wurde geladen. "C:\WINNT\system32\dhcpcsvc.dll" wurde geladen. I was astonished to find the entries "C:\Programme\FRITZ!DSL\DLL", so i tried to run XWin on a computer in our network which hasn't FRITZ!DSL-software, and ... it was running without any error or hang !! There a two computers with FRITZ!DSL-software on it, and on both XWin and sh.exe hang on execution. So i identified the third-party conflict with FRITZ!DSL startcenter (www.avm.de). What can i do now (except of deinstalling the FRITZ!DSL software ?? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: XWin hangs on opening xterms, correspondence with setup hangs ??
Larry Hall (Cygwin X cygwin.com> writes: > > Norbert Harendt wrote: > > Larry Hall (Cygwin X cygwin.com> writes: > > > > > >>On 10/11/2005, Norbert Harendt wrote: > >> > >>>OK. What i can see, is that calling or running the shell causes the > >>>problems in my case. XWin is coming up and running fine, i get the logon > >>>screen of the remote server and everything seems to be fine. But if i try > >>>to open an xterm on the remote server, XWin seems to hang, no grafical > >>>update, nothing happens (with enough patience you can watch this going on > >>>forever). When i kill the second XWin.exe suddenly the xterm appears and > >>>everything is working fine again, except for the heavy cpu-load, which > >>>was not present in my former installation. > >> > >>Perhaps it makes sense to look at why you have a second XWin running. > >> > > > > > > > > OK. I don't know at that time, why there is a second XWin.exe starting. > > Yes i also think, that this is the clue to the problem. The start of the > > second XWin.exe must happen internally, because the script starting > >XWin -clipboard -lesspointer -query 192.168.1.100 -once > > calls XWin.exe only once. At the time of the program call is no other XWin.exe > > running. Is there a possibility to view what is happening internally, extended > > logging features or somethins else ?? > > I don't know. But perhaps it's better to come at this from the other > direction. If you can provide a small test case/script that reproduces the > problem for you, then others on the list could verify whether or not they > see the same problem. > That is very simple, i start cygwin calling bin\bash --login -i Inside bash i call XWin -clipboard -lesspointer -query 192.168.1.100 -once and that's all. Using my former installation of cygwin from that point on everything happend without problems. I used Cygwin/X-window as the local display server for the remote applications on our linux-server. And this changed with the update of the local cygwin installation: What is now happening is also described in the former postings: the Cygwin/X-window opens and freezes just upon opening, so you can see only the frame of the window, but not the inside, which doesn't change even with much much patience. So, when i kill the second XWin.exe (which appears out of nowhere, i didn't call it!) in the task manager, the inside of the Cygwin/X-window fills as it should be: the login screen of our linux-server appears and everything is running fine, as if nothing unusal happened. I can login and open applications on the remote server sending their output to the Cygwin/X-window as it should be. But every time i start an xterm the Cygwin/X-window freezes again, without showing the xterm, and this doesn't change even with much patience. So after killing the second XWin.exe, which seemingly was started by the call of the xterm, the Cygwin/X-window behaves as usual: xterm window appears and Cygwin/X-window is fully functional (.. until the next call of xterm). But i also encounter problems running cygwins setup.exe: when it comes to the postinstalls, setup also hangs, because the envoced shells freeze on starting. So i think, the real problem is the way shells are started in the actual version of cygwin. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: XWin hangs on opening xterms, correspondence with setup hangs ??
Larry Hall (Cygwin X cygwin.com> writes: > > On 10/11/2005, Norbert Harendt wrote: > > OK. What i can see, is that calling or running the shell causes the > > problems in my case. XWin is coming up and running fine, i get the logon > > screen of the remote server and everything seems to be fine. But if i try > > to open an xterm on the remote server, XWin seems to hang, no grafical > > update, nothing happens (with enough patience you can watch this going on > > forever). When i kill the second XWin.exe suddenly the xterm appears and > > everything is working fine again, except for the heavy cpu-load, which was > > not present in my former installation. > > Perhaps it makes sense to look at why you have a second XWin running. > OK. I don't know at that time, why there is a second XWin.exe starting. Yes i also think, that this is the clue to the problem. The start of the second XWin.exe must happen internally, because the script starting XWin -clipboard -lesspointer -query 192.168.1.100 -once calls XWin.exe only once. At the time of the program call is no other XWin.exe running. Is there a possibility to view what is happening internally, extended logging features or somethins else ?? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: XWin hangs on opening xterms, correspondence with setup hangs ??
Christopher Faylor cygwin.com> writes: > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:41:00AM +, Norbert Harendt wrote: > >Norbert Harendt ib-eckerl.de> writes: > >I encounter shell-hangs with cygwin also when using cygwins setup, so i > >post the problem also under > >http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin/70104 because i think it has > >something to do with deadlocks or errors in communication in > >dll-subroutine calls > > This is very unlikely. > > You really don't seem to know anything about this issue so I don't > think that postulating on the problem is going to be helpful. > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > OK. What i can see, is that calling or running the shell causes the problems in my case. XWin is coming up and running fine, i get the logon screen of the remote server and everything seems to be fine. But if i try to open an xterm on the remote server, XWin seems to hang, no grafical update, nothing happens (with enough patience you can watch this going on forever). When i kill the second XWin.exe suddenly the xterm appears and everything is working fine again, except for the heavy cpu-load, which was not present in my former installation. Summarizing this together with the problems running sh.exe during setup i think that some internal action during the invocation of the shell process might cause the problem. I don't really know the details because i didn't examine the source code. But to me it doesn't look like a failure of the xserver or client window itself but like a problem of one type of process (invoking the shell) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: XWin hangs on opening xterms, correspondence with setup hangs ??
Norbert Harendt ib-eckerl.de> writes: I encounter shell-hangs with cygwin also when using cygwins setup, so i post the problem also under http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin/70104 because i think it has something to do with deadlocks or errors in communication in dll-subroutine calls -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: XWin hangs on opening xterms
Igor Pechtchanski cs.nyu.edu> writes: > Did you let it run long enough? Looks like it's trying to fork, and the > DLLs are being loaded. Does the CPU show any activity during the "hang"? > Does the disk? Try running it under strace to see if it's really a hang, > a busy loop, etc. If you get any output at all during the "hang", XWin is > probably doing something useful. yes, i did. It will run forever with the Cygin/X-window still frozen > > > Yes. XWin forks to be able to spawn off a process (in this case, xterm). > You have killed the forked child, thus XWin is not able to create the > xterm process. Don't do that. Sorry, that is NOT correct, because xterm is showing in Cygwin/X-Window immediately after killing the second XWin.exe. Xterm itself is NOT killed by that action! What is very atonishing is, that CPD-load under Windows is very heavy when running XWin. And that is different to the former version i installed. > HTH, > Igor -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
XWin hangs on opening xterms
Hello, I updated cygwin a few days ago, now my xwindow-remote sessions are often hanging and are consuming a lot of cpu-power. In detail: I am running a W2K-machine with 2 cpus and connect to a linux-X-server via cygwins XWin -query 192.168.1.100 -once in order to get the logon-screen of the linux-server. Before last days update all was performing very will (but now i don't know which version that was) Now i get the following output: ** $ XWin -query 192.168.1.100 -once Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: XWin -query 192.168.1.100 -once _XSERVTransmkdir: Mode of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to 0777 _XSERVTransmkdir: this may cause subsequent errors winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,..." winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: f800 07e0 001f MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "0407" (0407) (--) Using preset keyboard for "German (Germany)" (407), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "de" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" ** At this point the Cygin/X-windows hangs. Opening the windows taskmanager i killed the second running instance of XWin.exe and get the output ** 40 [main] XWin 804 fork_parent: child 1524 died waiting for dll loading (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap (--) 3 mouse buttons found winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 637 499 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard is not enabled, returning. winProcQueryTree - Clipboard is not enabled, returning. ** but than the logon screen of the linuxserver appears in the Cygwin/X-Window and i am able to login. The initialisation of the X-desktop is done as usual. But every time i open an xterm, the Cygwin/X-Window hangs again. Again killing the second XWin.exe brings Cygwin/X-Window back to life, producing an output similar to the following ** 332281787 [main] XWin 804 fork_parent: child 1476 died waiting for dll loading ** Can anybody tell me, what is happening Thanks in advance Norbert -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
