Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-04 Thread amorphia


Christopher Faylor-8 wrote:
 
 On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:04:08AM -0800, amorphia wrote:
Can I plead for developers, please please don't make setup.exe broken? I
am
sure there are many many users like me who don't expect to have to be
monitoring some random mailing lists in order to work out what else you
need
to do when running setup.exe with default options. Fine, if you make a
mistake with dependencies. But I think there must be a lot of other people
out there like me who are tech savvy enough to need cygwin but not tech
savvy enough for it to be a walk in the park when this happens, so surely
it's not OK to deliberately alter cygwin so that setup.exe no longer
installs everything you need for the most basic purpose, i.e. opening an
xterm window?
 
 Huh?  This should be a typical scenario wherein you report a *problem*
 and hope that someone will be available to help you fix it.  Once it is
 fixed, then theoretically it will no longer be a problem.
 Characterising this as somehow intentional or as the result of
 inattention is insulting and counterproductive.
 
 

Apologies for causing offence. I have the utmost respect and gratitude for
developers of free software, and I've never come across another scientific
researcher who includes such acknowledgements in articles for publication,
as I do.

As I wrote: if this was a mistake, then fair enough. I reckoned it probably
wasn't a mistake, because in the release notes for the package:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2008-11/msg0.html

it clearly states that the package doesn't provide everything it needs to
work. I assumed that whoever incorporated the package into setup.exe would
have carefully read those notes. I might be wrong, or I might have
misunderstood something else, if so I apologise. But if I'm not wrong, then
this was rather careless.

Please note when judging me that the main point of my post was to provide an
(albeit inelegant) solution to a problem. The plea was made in passing.

Cheers,

Ben
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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-03 Thread amorphia


Dan Moulding wrote:
 
 I typically update my Cygwin installations about once a month, and
 rarely run into any difficulties. However, this morning after updating
 I could no longer start any X applications due to some apparent font
 problems. Please note that I successfully installed the *new* Cygwin/X
 a couple of months ago, and previously resolved some of the seemingly
 more common font problems (like boxes showing up in emacs).
 
 This time, I was getting Unable to load any usable iso8859 font
 errors anytime I'd try to start xterm.
 

I was getting exactly the same problem after updating today. Some googling
found this post:

http://gaoithe.livejournal.com/19556.html

Which suggested that it could be fixed by updating some packages like fonts
which are not currently automatically updated by setup.exe. After some time
spent reading the information linked to by that post, I still couldn't work
out exactly what packages were missing. So I just ticked to update every
single thing under X11, and ran it. Walnut... sledgehammer... worked.

Can I plead for developers, please please don't make setup.exe broken? I am
sure there are many many users like me who don't expect to have to be
monitoring some random mailing lists in order to work out what else you need
to do when running setup.exe with default options. Fine, if you make a
mistake with dependencies. But I think there must be a lot of other people
out there like me who are tech savvy enough to need cygwin but not tech
savvy enough for it to be a walk in the park when this happens, so surely
it's not OK to deliberately alter cygwin so that setup.exe no longer
installs everything you need for the most basic purpose, i.e. opening an
xterm window?

Cheers!

Ben
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