Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
Frank, There is information in the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide that describes your different options for starting Cygwin/XFree86: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting Window resizing and scrollbars are both controlled by the X ``window manager''. You are looking for something that we are all always looking for, the unobtainable ``better window manager''. However, there are several other options for a window manager that you can try out without much work. Just rerun Cygwin's setup.exe and look under the XFree86 category --- there are a few window managers listed there (MWM is in the Lesstif package, openbox, window-maker, etc.). You can edit startxwin.bat (which is, by the way, the recommended way to start Cygwin/XFree86) and replace the line that starts ``twm'' with one of the others that you have installed, e.g., ``mwm''. Each window manager has its own quirks and bugs (some of them don't work correctly when the NumLock key is on, etc.). Choosing a window manager is a highly personal thing so that is about all the help that I can give you. I am sure that others will chime in with links to their favorite WMs now. :) Harold Lane, Frank L wrote: > Hello again, > > I'm managing to take a couple of steps a day. One thing I stumbled across > the other day is the startx command. I use this to work. I've noticed that > my windows are not resizable and do not have scrollbars. Is there a better > way to kickoff X? > > Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm > trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a > message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. > I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any > suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in > the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? > > Thanks, > Frank
RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
Thanks to all, please excuse my whining. Gawd I love this stuff!:-) Frank -Original Message- From: Jean-Claude Gervais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? Hi Frank, This list is really all about the Cygwin implementation of X and issues concerning that. If you have generic questions about X development, www.x.org might be a place to start. The comp.windows.x newsgroup might have some people on it that could help you. As an aside, your question about linking X calls to your cygwin app does seem legit to me, but I cannot answer it. Sorry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lane, Frank L Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 12:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? OK. If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I go to ask them? Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious from the project page description. Thanks, Frank -Original Message- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm > trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a > message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. > I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any > suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in > the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
Hi Frank, This list is really all about the Cygwin implementation of X and issues concerning that. If you have generic questions about X development, www.x.org might be a place to start. The comp.windows.x newsgroup might have some people on it that could help you. As an aside, your question about linking X calls to your cygwin app does seem legit to me, but I cannot answer it. Sorry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lane, Frank L Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 12:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? OK. If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I go to ask them? Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious from the project page description. Thanks, Frank -Original Message- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm > trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a > message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. > I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any > suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in > the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
Frank, I think Alexander probably hit the send button before he was finished writing a reply (or, in this case, before he even started). He signs all of his emails with ``bye [return] ago'', so I am guessing that he has this in a signature file that automatically gets added to the end of the emails that he writes. The ``bye'' is because he is a native German speaker and lots of Germans use ``bye'' as their closing... that is just a cultural thing. You should hear them speak it... they say it very politely, not curtly like it may seem in email. Anyway, your questions are valid here, just wait until someone answers them. Harold Lane, Frank L wrote: > OK. If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I > go to ask them? > > Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious > from the project page description. > > Thanks, > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Alexander Gottwald > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? > > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > > >>Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, > > I'm > >>trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a >>message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. >>I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. > > Any > >>suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is > > in > >>the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? > > > bye > ago
RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > OK. If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I > go to ask them? Oops. Sorry. The editor must have eaten some lines. So I try again: Use -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11. Sorry, ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
OK. If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I go to ask them? Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious from the project page description. Thanks, Frank -Original Message- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff? On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm > trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a > message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. > I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any > suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in > the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote: > Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm > trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a > message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. > I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any > suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in > the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
Hello again, I'm managing to take a couple of steps a day. One thing I stumbled across the other day is the startx command. I use this to work. I've noticed that my windows are not resizable and do not have scrollbars. Is there a better way to kickoff X? Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm trying to write some beginner programs. When I compile using gcc I get a message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions. I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help. Any suggestions? Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's? Thanks, Frank
