Re: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Brian Genisio

Well, I am a bit confused about your question.  If you are looking to run
annother window manager, but not run it from the Windows box, then run it from
the the linux box...

Get the XFree/Cygwin server up
>From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex. fvwm -display windows:0)

I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the website.  XDMCP allows you to
log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the XFree/Cygwin server.  It works
well.  

Brian


--- Raber Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I
> found the WEB UI to the list archive...
> 
> First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed to
> do some remote Linux work from my PC.
> 
> I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms from a
> linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run a
> netscape or other browser from my remote linux
> machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem to
> work.
> 
> I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome to
> pull this off? What is the simplest way to use some
> other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
> install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.
> 
> Suggestions are much appreciated.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> -Chris.
> 
> 
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Re: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Raber Chris

Brian,

You are a bit confused by my question because I am
confused and propagating confusion!

I am not sure if I want to run a different window
manager or not. What I want is to be able to run a
browser window from the remote Linux machine on my
XWin client on cygwin. The reason is that I am going
to be doing some installs via that browser and it
makes my life easier (i.e. easier than using lynx that
is).

If I need to run a different window manager, then so
be it. I have been reading about XDMCP but I don't
fully get it. Can you point me to the best place to
learn how to set up XDMCP for the Linux box? Is this a
good reference:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/

Thanks again,

-Chris.

--- Brian Genisio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I am a bit confused about your question.  If
> you are looking to run
> annother window manager, but not run it from the
> Windows box, then run it from
> the the linux box...
> 
> Get the XFree/Cygwin server up
> From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex.
> fvwm -display windows:0)
> 
> I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the
> website.  XDMCP allows you to
> log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the
> XFree/Cygwin server.  It works
> well.  
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> --- Raber Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I
> > found the WEB UI to the list archive...
> > 
> > First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed
> to
> > do some remote Linux work from my PC.
> > 
> > I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms
> from a
> > linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run
> a
> > netscape or other browser from my remote linux
> > machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem
> to
> > work.
> > 
> > I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome
> to
> > pull this off? What is the simplest way to use
> some
> > other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
> > install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.
> > 
> > Suggestions are much appreciated.
> > 
> > TIA,
> > 
> > -Chris.
> > 
> > 
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RE: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Raber Chris

Well, I am a bit confused about your question.  If you
are looking to run
annother window manager, but not run it from the
Windows box, then run it from
the the linux box...

Get the XFree/Cygwin server up
>From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex.
fvwm -display windows:0)

I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the
website.  XDMCP allows you to
log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the
XFree/Cygwin server.  It works
well.  

Brian


--- Raber Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I
> found the WEB UI to the list archive...
> 
> First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed
to
> do some remote Linux work from my PC.
> 
> I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms from
a
> linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run a
> netscape or other browser from my remote linux
> machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem to
> work.
> 
> I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome to
> pull this off? What is the simplest way to use some
> other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
> install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.
> 
> Suggestions are much appreciated.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> -Chris.
> 

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Re: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Brian Genisio

Well, running a browser should be as easy as running it with a display set :

netscape -display winmachine:0

Or setting the display variable, and running netscape :

setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0
netscape

To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux box (I think most
distributions have it on by default), simply use the following command line
variables when starting the X server (This is in the user's manual):

-query linuxIP -from windowsIP

Brian


--- Raber Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> You are a bit confused by my question because I am
> confused and propagating confusion!
> 
> I am not sure if I want to run a different window
> manager or not. What I want is to be able to run a
> browser window from the remote Linux machine on my
> XWin client on cygwin. The reason is that I am going
> to be doing some installs via that browser and it
> makes my life easier (i.e. easier than using lynx that
> is).
> 
> If I need to run a different window manager, then so
> be it. I have been reading about XDMCP but I don't
> fully get it. Can you point me to the best place to
> learn how to set up XDMCP for the Linux box? Is this a
> good reference:
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> -Chris.
> 
> --- Brian Genisio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, I am a bit confused about your question.  If
> > you are looking to run
> > annother window manager, but not run it from the
> > Windows box, then run it from
> > the the linux box...
> > 
> > Get the XFree/Cygwin server up
> > From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex.
> > fvwm -display windows:0)
> > 
> > I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the
> > website.  XDMCP allows you to
> > log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the
> > XFree/Cygwin server.  It works
> > well.  
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > 
> > --- Raber Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I
> > > found the WEB UI to the list archive...
> > > 
> > > First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed
> > to
> > > do some remote Linux work from my PC.
> > > 
> > > I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms
> > from a
> > > linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run
> > a
> > > netscape or other browser from my remote linux
> > > machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem
> > to
> > > work.
> > > 
> > > I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome
> > to
> > > pull this off? What is the simplest way to use
> > some
> > > other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
> > > install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.
> > > 
> > > Suggestions are much appreciated.
> > > 
> > > TIA,
> > > 
> > > -Chris.
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Raber Chris

Brian,

> 
> Well, running a browser should be as easy as running
it with 
> a display set :
> 
> netscape -display winmachine:0

Tried this, does not work. No window ever is
displayed.

> 
> Or setting the display variable, and running
netscape :
> 
> setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0
> netscape

Same problem.

> 
> To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux
box (I think most
> distributions have it on by default), simply use the

> following command line
> variables when starting the X server (This is in the
user's manual):
> 
> -query linuxIP -from windowsIP
> 
> Brian


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Re: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Brian Genisio

So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the command line interface that I
mentioned in the last mail?

Brian


--- Raber Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> > 
> > Well, running a browser should be as easy as running
> it with 
> > a display set :
> > 
> > netscape -display winmachine:0
> 
> Tried this, does not work. No window ever is
> displayed.
> 
> > 
> > Or setting the display variable, and running
> netscape :
> > 
> > setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0
> > netscape
> 
> Same problem.
> 
> > 
> > To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux
> box (I think most
> > distributions have it on by default), simply use the
> 
> > following command line
> > variables when starting the X server (This is in the
> user's manual):
> > 
> > -query linuxIP -from windowsIP
> > 
> > Brian
> 
> 
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RE: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Suhaib Siddiqi

You can read more about XDMPC at Cygwin/Xfree website.

What is your remote shell?  CSH or BASH.  If it is bash 
then you need 

export DISPLAY=your_windows_ip_address:0.0

Suhaib

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Genisio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Raber Chris; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
> 
> 
> So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the command line 
> interface that I mentioned in the last mail?
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> --- Raber Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Brian,
> > 
> > > 
> > > Well, running a browser should be as easy as running
> > it with
> > > a display set :
> > > 
> > > netscape -display winmachine:0
> > 
> > Tried this, does not work. No window ever is
> > displayed.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Or setting the display variable, and running
> > netscape :
> > > 
> > > setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0
> > > netscape
> > 
> > Same problem.
> > 
> > > 
> > > To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux
> > box (I think most
> > > distributions have it on by default), simply use the
> > 
> > > following command line
> > > variables when starting the X server (This is in the
> > user's manual):
> > > 
> > > -query linuxIP -from windowsIP
> > > 
> > > Brian
> > 
> > 
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RE: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Raber Chris

> 
> So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the
command line 
> interface that I
> mentioned in the last mail?

Unfortunately the machine is physically remote from me
and I am not root, so I haven't been able to try this
yet. I do intend to try this, but it's going to take a
little while...

The documentation on XDMCP present on the cygwin site
shows how to use XDMCP, but not how to set it up...

> 
> Brian


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RE: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Raber Chris

>You can read more about XDMPC at Cygwin/Xfree
website.

That document shows how to use XDMPC, but not how to
set it up.

>What is your remote shell?  CSH or BASH.  If it is
>bash then you need 
>
>export DISPLAY=your_windows_ip_address:0.0

I am using bash and this is exactly how I am setting
the DISPLAY variable. It's not working. Netscape sits
there as a background job but never comes up on my
XWin? Very wierd.

>
>Suhaib



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RE: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Suhaib Siddiqi



> -Original Message-
> From: Raber Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
> 
> 
> >You can read more about XDMPC at Cygwin/Xfree
> website.
> 
> That document shows how to use XDMPC, but not how to
> set it up.
> 

It is because you setup XDMCP at UNIX box and most UNIX boxes do this by
default when you install OS.  From Cygwin/Xfree you only use to connect.

> >What is your remote shell?  CSH or BASH.  If it is
> >bash then you need
> >
> >export DISPLAY=your_windows_ip_address:0.0
> 
> I am using bash and this is exactly how I am setting
> the DISPLAY variable. It's not working. Netscape sits
> there as a background job but never comes up on my
> XWin? Very wierd.
> 


Are you at a remote machine which is behind the firewall or maybe on another
premisses?  That might explain the hangs and lags.

Suhaib

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RE: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Brian Genisio

Yes, but did you try it anyways?  Most Linux distributions set XDMCP up as
default when it sets up X.  I would simply try it, before you worry about
setting it up on the Linux system.

Another thought about the Netscape problem you are having... How much time are
you giving it to come up?  How far away is the remote machine?  (What is the
ping rate?)  If you have a ping rate of 70ms or so, Netscape will be dog slow,
and could take as long as 10 minutes to come up X programs dont work too
well over networks with latency (ie cable modem).

The other thought, if you think your window manager is the problem... kill off
twm, and run a window manager from the remote machine, and try it again.

Brian



--- Raber Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the
> command line 
> > interface that I
> > mentioned in the last mail?
> 
> Unfortunately the machine is physically remote from me
> and I am not root, so I haven't been able to try this
> yet. I do intend to try this, but it's going to take a
> little while...
> 
> The documentation on XDMCP present on the cygwin site
> shows how to use XDMCP, but not how to set it up...
> 
> > 
> > Brian
> 
> 
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