Re: Debatable: Rootless Mode is an Important and Needed Feature
I think that you are looking at it a different way.. If we had a rootless X-windows it would allow better integration with our current environment... and would help get it past the pointy haired bosses Thanks David R. Fischer Jim Drash wrote: > > While, it might be nice to allow Windows to be the Window Manager and that > it might be convenient, it is not a requirement for many people's regular > and daily use of the Xserver. > > Would it be cool? Yes. I cannot right now think of a single X app would > work better if Windows managed it. any> begin:vcard n:Fischer;David tel;cell:623-217-5858 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:AMIS;Product Support adr:;;8701 E. Hartford Drive;Scottsdale;AZ;85255;USA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Systems Support Eng. fn:David Fischer end:vcard
Re: Debatable: Rootless Mode is an Important and Needed Feature
Well, it isnt an absolute requirement, but it certianly is a significant convienience. I mantian some computer systems for some people, if I wished to use the Xserver to provide an X application for people to use, I know that if I told many people that they first had to maxamise a certian window and then find the application in that window, many users would be perplexed and complain loudly. For me a root mode is very useful, I like using my X Window Manager and X Desktop in a seperate window. Some users I maintian for though would be perplexed by this if I decided to provide X programs for them to use. This feature would be important to me for that convenience aspect, I know apps probably wouldnt work better in a rootless mode. >> While, it might be nice to allow Windows to be the >> Window Manager and that >> it might be convenient, it is not a requirement >> for many people's regular >> and daily use of the Xserver. >> Would it be cool? Yes. I cannot right now think >> of a single X app would >> work better if Windows managed it. > OK. I can't think of >>any> __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
RE: Debatable: Rootless Mode is an Important and Needed Feature
I'm sure Harold would appreciate any patch contributions you make towards this... Seriously, very week (or so) somebody asks for this, but nobody puts code forwards. *shrug*, I think Harold is doing a fantastic job, and when he eventually gets around to scratching that itch I'll thank him again. However, I am not in a position to aid the xfree development; so I don't feel I can insist on something that would take so much effort... J.
Re: Debatable: Rootless Mode is an Important and Needed Feature
True. I also am unable to provide code . John Morrison wrote: > > I'm sure Harold would appreciate any patch contributions > you make towards this... > > Seriously, very week (or so) somebody asks for this, but > nobody puts code forwards. *shrug*, I think Harold is > doing a fantastic job, and when he eventually gets around > to scratching that itch I'll thank him again. However, > I am not in a position to aid the xfree development; so > I don't feel I can insist on something that would take > so much effort... > > J. begin:vcard n:Fischer;David tel;cell:623-217-5858 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:AMIS;Product Support adr:;;8701 E. Hartford Drive;Scottsdale;AZ;85255;USA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Systems Support Eng. fn:David Fischer end:vcard
Re: Debatable: Rootless Mode is an Important and Needed Feature
David, Could you please ask your pointy-haired bosses for a few thousand bucks to pay one of your programmers to throw some time at a rootless mode? Better yet, why don't you ask them if they would be willing to pay me to do it? I'd love to do rootless mode, but I gotta have a way to get paid since it would take so much time away from my current jobs, etc. Harold David R. Fischer wrote: > I think that you are looking at it a different way.. If we had a > rootless X-windows it would allow better integration with our current > environment... and would help get it past the pointy haired bosses > > > Thanks > David R. Fischer > > > Jim Drash wrote: > >>While, it might be nice to allow Windows to be the Window Manager and that >>it might be convenient, it is not a requirement for many people's regular >>and daily use of the Xserver. >> >>Would it be cool? Yes. I cannot right now think of a single X app would >>work better if Windows managed it. >any> >
Re: Debatable: Rootless Mode is an Important and Needed Feature
Thank you John. You've got precisely the viewpoint that I am trying to instill in Mr. Mlarcvaernas. I guess the idea is don't look a gift horse in the mouth, eh? :) Harold John Morrison wrote: > I'm sure Harold would appreciate any patch contributions > you make towards this... > > Seriously, very week (or so) somebody asks for this, but > nobody puts code forwards. *shrug*, I think Harold is > doing a fantastic job, and when he eventually gets around > to scratching that itch I'll thank him again. However, > I am not in a position to aid the xfree development; so > I don't feel I can insist on something that would take > so much effort... > > J. >
Re: Debatable: Rootless Mode is an Important and Needed Feature
HLH> Could you please ask your pointy-haired bosses for a few thousand bucks HLH> to pay one of your programmers to throw some time at a rootless mode? HLH> Better yet, why don't you ask them if they would be willing to pay me to HLH> do it? Some time ago there was a suggestion to setup a paypal account to receive donations for this purpose. I recall someone saying that an announcement would be made when the account was available. What ever happened to this? Personally, I'd be happy to contribute some hard cash to whomever implements this feature. Cheers, -- Robert
Re: Debatable: Rootless Mode is an Important and Needed Feature
Robert, My PayPal account is my email address. I have not setup a link to it from my homepage yet, but I have that on my To-Do list. I have also not proposed any prices for developing features that do not exist. However, I would be more than happy to accept any contributions for the work that I have already done... I could certainly use that money to keep my development hardware up-to-date. I have really been looking into upgrading my Linux machine that I use for building Cygwin/XFree86 --- I need a new motherboard ($120), a new chip ($200), a new 7200 RPM hard drive ($120), a bundle of RAM ($100), and a semi-modern graphics card ($120). I'd also like to have a UPS ($100-$200) since uptimes of more than 7 days are becoming rather rare at my apartment due to lightning storms and whatnot. It is a real pain to try logging on to my Linux machine from school only to find out that the storm during the night caused it to hang (we've had some power sags that caused it to hang but that did not cause the machine to reboot or X to stop displaying on the screen). PayPal money would be perfect for this because I don't have to struggle with myself as to whether spending this money is worth it or not --- the PayPal money would only be spent for hardware, so there is nothing to struggle about. Needless to say, the fiance stays out of the loop on that money as well, so there is no chance of veto on any purchases :) Hopefully that will do until I put a link on my page. Like I said, my PayPal account is my email address. Harold Robert Mecklenburg wrote: > HLH> Could you please ask your pointy-haired bosses for a few thousand bucks > HLH> to pay one of your programmers to throw some time at a rootless mode? > HLH> Better yet, why don't you ask them if they would be willing to pay me to > HLH> do it? > > Some time ago there was a suggestion to setup a paypal account to > receive donations for this purpose. I recall someone saying that an > announcement would be made when the account was available. What ever > happened to this? Personally, I'd be happy to contribute some hard > cash to whomever implements this feature. > > Cheers,
