Re: Expect Script under X-Windows

2002-07-22 Thread Nicholas Wourms


--- Thomas Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So you're writing a script that very likely will contain a password in 
> cleartext?  How secure is that?

Keep it on a floppy-disk, and keep that in plastic case in your pocket. 
It works for me.  Then it will be just as secure as your wallet.  Now how
secure that really is, depends on the individual.  Still it is preferable
to keeping it on the pc itself.

As for Expect, it *WILL NOT* work.  This is because Cygnus designed
TCL/TK/ITCL/TIX/EXPECT to be mingw like, so that people can use Insight
[GUI GDB] without having to fire up an X-windows session.  Someday we will
have the TCL suite working under both X and native Windows, but that will
involve a lot of work.  For now, lets just leave it at that.

If you *really* want to script, then you should look into some python gui
X utilities to do that for you.

Cheers,
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Re: Expect Script under X-Windows

2002-07-22 Thread Harold L Hunt II

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The normal method of logon using ssh requires the the user input a
> password. Because of security issues, this cannot be circumvented by any
> other method. All I wanted to do was to poll around fifty servers for
> information. Each has the same logon name and password. Now, I need to
> manually send the password for each and every server.
> 

Nicht eine gut Idee.

Harold




Re: Expect Script under X-Windows

2002-07-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It's only on my own machine with proper permissions. 

Original Message:
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From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:07:09 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Expect Script under X-Windows


So you're writing a script that very likely will contain a password in 
cleartext?  How secure is that?

>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Expect Script under X-Windows
>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:54:18 -0400
>
>The normal method of logon using ssh requires the the user input a
>password. Because of security issues, this cannot be circumvented by any
>other method. All I wanted to do was to poll around fifty servers for
>information. Each has the same logon name and password. Now, I need to
>manually send the password for each and every server.
>
>Original Message:
>-
>From: Michel Bardiaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:37:32 +0200
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Expect Script under X-Windows
>
>
>"Zelkovitz, Sanford J (ZERO CHAOS)" wrote:
> >
> > I have been trying without any success to write an expect script which
>would
> > insert the password for ssh in an x-windows session. I am obviously 
>doing
> > something wrong since all efforts have failed. Has anyone succeeded 
>where
>I
> > have failed?
> >
> > Sanford  Zelkovitz
>
>Could you clarify? Which password do you mean exactly? The passphrase
>for your ssh keyring? If you script that, you might as well have no
>passphrase at all.
>
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Re: Expect Script under X-Windows

2002-07-22 Thread Thomas Chadwick

So you're writing a script that very likely will contain a password in 
cleartext?  How secure is that?

>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Expect Script under X-Windows
>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:54:18 -0400
>
>The normal method of logon using ssh requires the the user input a
>password. Because of security issues, this cannot be circumvented by any
>other method. All I wanted to do was to poll around fifty servers for
>information. Each has the same logon name and password. Now, I need to
>manually send the password for each and every server.
>
>Original Message:
>-
>From: Michel Bardiaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:37:32 +0200
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Expect Script under X-Windows
>
>
>"Zelkovitz, Sanford J (ZERO CHAOS)" wrote:
> >
> > I have been trying without any success to write an expect script which
>would
> > insert the password for ssh in an x-windows session. I am obviously 
>doing
> > something wrong since all efforts have failed. Has anyone succeeded 
>where
>I
> > have failed?
> >
> > Sanford  Zelkovitz
>
>Could you clarify? Which password do you mean exactly? The passphrase
>for your ssh keyring? If you script that, you might as well have no
>passphrase at all.
>
>--
>Michel Bardiaux
>Peaktime Belgium S.A.  Bd. du Souverain, 191  B-1160 Bruxelles
>Tel : +32 2 790.29.41
>
>
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Re: Expect Script under X-Windows

2002-07-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The normal method of logon using ssh requires the the user input a
password. Because of security issues, this cannot be circumvented by any
other method. All I wanted to do was to poll around fifty servers for
information. Each has the same logon name and password. Now, I need to
manually send the password for each and every server.

Original Message:
-
From: Michel Bardiaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:37:32 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Expect Script under X-Windows


"Zelkovitz, Sanford J (ZERO CHAOS)" wrote:
> 
> I have been trying without any success to write an expect script which
would
> insert the password for ssh in an x-windows session. I am obviously doing
> something wrong since all efforts have failed. Has anyone succeeded where
I
> have failed?
> 
> Sanford  Zelkovitz

Could you clarify? Which password do you mean exactly? The passphrase
for your ssh keyring? If you script that, you might as well have no
passphrase at all.

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Re: Expect Script under X-Windows

2002-07-22 Thread Ed Hennis

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, 12:20pm (-0400), Zelkovitz, Sanford J (ZERO CHAOS) wrote:

> I have been trying without any success to write an expect script which would
> insert the password for ssh in an x-windows session. I am obviously doing
> something wrong since all efforts have failed. Has anyone succeeded where I
> have failed?

You're making things we too hard on yourself.  Look at the man pages for:
ssh, ssh-keygen, ssh-agent, and ssh-add.

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Re: Expect Script under X-Windows

2002-07-22 Thread Thomas Chadwick

Are you sure you want to do it that way?  ssh can be configured to connect 
without prompting for a password.  Look here:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/msg00475.html

>From: "Zelkovitz, Sanford J (ZERO CHAOS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Expect Script under X-Windows
>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:20:41 -0400
>
>I have been trying without any success to write an expect script which 
>would
>insert the password for ssh in an x-windows session. I am obviously doing
>something wrong since all efforts have failed. Has anyone succeeded where I
>have failed?
>
>
>Sanford  Zelkovitz




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Re: Expect Script under X-Windows

2002-07-22 Thread Michel Bardiaux

"Zelkovitz, Sanford J (ZERO CHAOS)" wrote:
> 
> I have been trying without any success to write an expect script which would
> insert the password for ssh in an x-windows session. I am obviously doing
> something wrong since all efforts have failed. Has anyone succeeded where I
> have failed?
> 
> Sanford  Zelkovitz

Could you clarify? Which password do you mean exactly? The passphrase
for your ssh keyring? If you script that, you might as well have no
passphrase at all.

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Peaktime Belgium S.A.  Bd. du Souverain, 191  B-1160 Bruxelles
Tel : +32 2 790.29.41