Re: always-on-top bug
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Jack Tanner wrote: > Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > The splashscreen of an app being displayed over ssh X11 forwarding stays > > > on top of other windows instead of going to background when I select a > > > Windows window. Normally, I would've never noticed this since > > > splashscreens usually whiz by, but I was on a slow connection, and this > > > was very noticeable. > > > > Was this in multiwindow mode, or in rootless/rooted mode? If the former, > > then AFAIU this is expected behavior -- the windows are managed by the > > Yes, this was in multiwindow mode. But multiwindow mode doesn't use the > internal Windows window manager, does it? I had thought it used an > emulation of it that tried to be as similar as possible. As Alexander said, multiwindow mode is a thin layer on top of the internal Windows window manager. All of the X hints and attributes (like "always-on-top") are translated to the corresponding Windows hints and attributes by the multiwindow layer. > A native Windows OpenOffice.org starts with a splashscreen that I can > send to the background by clicking on a different window. An > X11-forwarded OOo starts with a splashscreen that stays on top no matter > what. Does this mean that the Windows OOo doesn't draw its splashscreen > with an always-on-top instruction? Possibly. You'd need to look at the source to find that out. They do use different windowing libraries, so I wouldn't be surprised if the code that deals with splash screens is radically different... Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse..." -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT
Re: always-on-top bug
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Jack Tanner wrote: > Yes, this was in multiwindow mode. But multiwindow mode doesn't use the > internal Windows window manager, does it? I had thought it used an > emulation of it that tried to be as similar as possible. The multiwindow mode is the only mode which uses the builtin windowmanager. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: always-on-top bug
Igor Pechtchanski wrote: The splashscreen of an app being displayed over ssh X11 forwarding stays on top of other windows instead of going to background when I select a Windows window. Normally, I would've never noticed this since splashscreens usually whiz by, but I was on a slow connection, and this was very noticeable. Was this in multiwindow mode, or in rootless/rooted mode? If the former, then AFAIU this is expected behavior -- the windows are managed by the Yes, this was in multiwindow mode. But multiwindow mode doesn't use the internal Windows window manager, does it? I had thought it used an emulation of it that tried to be as similar as possible. A native Windows OpenOffice.org starts with a splashscreen that I can send to the background by clicking on a different window. An X11-forwarded OOo starts with a splashscreen that stays on top no matter what. Does this mean that the Windows OOo doesn't draw its splashscreen with an always-on-top instruction?
Re: always-on-top bug
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Jack Tanner wrote: > The splashscreen of an app being displayed over ssh X11 forwarding stays > on top of other windows instead of going to background when I select a > Windows window. Normally, I would've never noticed this since > splashscreens usually whiz by, but I was on a slow connection, and this > was very noticeable. Was this in multiwindow mode, or in rootless/rooted mode? If the former, then AFAIU this is expected behavior -- the windows are managed by the native Windows window manager, and any always-on-top hints are translated to the Windows always-on-top attribute, which makes your window *really* stay on top of others. If the latter, does it make other X windows stay on top of the Windows windows? If so, this sounds like a bug. If not, I can't see how this is possible, as the rootless mode is implemented via one large window with transparent areas, IIRC. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse..." -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT
