Re: xouvert? (was Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - No longer associated with XFree86.org)

2003-10-27 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Mitch,

Mitchell Skinner wrote:
FWIW,

I read the cygwin-xfree mailing list archives from time to time, and I
just read the [EMAIL PROTECTED] thread linked from /., and it looks to
me like Harold was being pretty reasonable and was getting a terrible
response.
Thanks.  It was so weird to write what I thought was a reasonable reply 
only to be essentially shouted at in response.  It is reassuring to get 
messages from people saying that my posts were in fact reasonable.

I followed the [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion and the xwin.org and
xouvert.org bits, and at first I wasn't sure if the complainers had a
real beef or if the hubbub was the outcome of some bizarre historical
politics, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that the xfree86 guys
are dropping the ball.  Lots of long-time, serious contributors are all
saying the same thing; hopefully all those that have a problem with the
old system can get together and start a single new mainline rather than
splinter into a bunch of different groups.
It looks like people are regrouping.  Keith Packard and Jim Gettys are 
over at freedesktop.org.  They have most of the libs (that aren't 
maintained elsewhere) imported and autotooled.  I think that is going to 
be my long-term destination for our bits... but I am going to work in an 
xc/ style repository in the mean time.  It will take a few months to 
whip the autotooled build into shape, and I don't want to forgo having a 
CVS tree during that period.

xouvert is using Arch.  I am not really familiar with Arch; I don't even 
know if it works on Cygwin.  I personally don't think I would have the 
time to invest in setting up and maintaining a version of the code in 
xouvert... but I would not be opposed to someone else doing this and 
tracking my patches.  That would be advantageous to us and them.

Speaking of which, since the xouvert guys announced their intention to
fork, I've been wondering which way cygwin-xfree86 would go.  What do
cygwin-xfree subscribers think about that?
Oops, I think I told you above :)

Harold



Re: xouvert? (was Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - No longer associated with XFree86.org)

2003-10-27 Thread David Fraser
Harold L Hunt II wrote:

Mitch,

Mitchell Skinner wrote:

I followed the [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion and the xwin.org and
xouvert.org bits, and at first I wasn't sure if the complainers had a
real beef or if the hubbub was the outcome of some bizarre historical
politics, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that the xfree86 guys
are dropping the ball.  Lots of long-time, serious contributors are all
saying the same thing; hopefully all those that have a problem with the
old system can get together and start a single new mainline rather than
splinter into a bunch of different groups.


It looks like people are regrouping.  Keith Packard and Jim Gettys are 
over at freedesktop.org.  They have most of the libs (that aren't 
maintained elsewhere) imported and autotooled.  I think that is going 
to be my long-term destination for our bits... but I am going to work 
in an xc/ style repository in the mean time.  It will take a few 
months to whip the autotooled build into shape, and I don't want to 
forgo having a CVS tree during that period.

xouvert is using Arch.  I am not really familiar with Arch; I don't 
even know if it works on Cygwin.  I personally don't think I would 
have the time to invest in setting up and maintaining a version of the 
code in xouvert... but I would not be opposed to someone else doing 
this and tracking my patches.  That would be advantageous to us and them.
I've tried Arch, but quite a while ago.
It has some fantastic features, much much better than CVS.
Unfortunately though it wasn't working with cygwin then, but can't say 
if that's been fixed.
I think it was mostly due to them choosing strange names for directories 
like {arch} etc.

David