Re: IP, forwarded posts, and copyright infringement

2001-01-12 Thread Tom

 a friend of mine was an officer in the german army until very recently
 (he decided to get a real job :) ) - give me 24 hours and I'll tell you
 exactly what the past and current standard issue weapons are and what
 kind of ammo they fire.

current weapon (after the G3) is the G36, obviously an advanced G3
version. I didn't have much time to chat about the subject today, so if
anyone wants to know ammo types, more details, whatever - ask and I'll
find out.


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Re: IP, forwarded posts, and copyright infringement

2001-01-10 Thread Tim May

At 12:54 PM -0500 1/10/01, Declan McCullagh wrote:
[Jim sent me the below message directly without any indication that 
it was also sent to the list. But from past experience, I know 
better. Another example of not-quite-adequate Choatian social norms.]

Anyway, Jim is conflating physical control over an instantiation of 
IP with the rights conferred by IP law. If someone copies Microsoft 
Word (or a Tom Clancy novel) onto a CDROM and gives it to me, I am 
not liable.

-Declan


At 11:36 AM 1/10/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
   (Hint: U.S. copyright law does not make mere possession or archiving
  an offense. Try distribution, performance, etc.)

Hint: WRONG.

Simply possessing a paperback book that has had its cover removed as a
sign of 'destroyed' status is in fact a crime. Used book stores that have
them in stock can be charged accordingly.

So, if I tear the cover off of a paperback book that I legally own 
(bought, for example), Choate's claim is that this "is in fact a 
crime"?

Gee, so much for scienter. So much for proof of actual criminal 
action. So much for tort law.

Jim, please call the police, as I have just torn the cover off of a 
book I own. Worse, I just cut the tags off of a mattress. Call before 
I commit more crimes.

Fucking retard.


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