Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Oct 12, 2016 9:04 PM, "rooty"  wrote:
>
> aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!
>
> affim not clicking the link

Razer's unicorn is polite and uses the toilet seat.  A subversive unicorn
doesn't care about it.  You don't need to click the link to imagine it.  :)

Yep, Rr (Razer) is _not_ Georgi.  Did you discover it now?  ;)

Re: [WAR] Any UK pilot in Syria, can trigger WW3

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Oh, baby troll, don't be so injust...  Zen is being a very brave boy.

He created a new e-mail account    and now
is learning to send us links from  ,  instead only 'Russia
Insider' and 'The Duran' links.  It's a big advance!  :)

To make a tribute to his efforts, a little bit of music...  ;)

"Zen and the Art of Xenophobia" (Five Iron Frenzy)

http://youtu.be/sYjmz19s-Lg  (fun video, very strange lyrics, but mentions
United States of Amnesia and Russian tanks, hihi!  ;)

Cling to your god and guns,
the banjo's playing Hot Cross Buns,
Bucket seats set to recline,
no need to cross the county line.
Are the Arabs closing ranks ,
about to roll some Russian tanks?
Shut the doors and save the kids,
lock and load- just like Jesus did.
The United States of Amnesia
make us numb, make it dumb, anesthesia.
Cut the cord, close the door, we don't know 'ya,
it's the zen and the art of xenophobia
Let's keep them separate,
melanin just can't succeed.
"Give me liberty... or something."
It's better if you just don't read.
Crank your phasers up to "slaughter"
Turn your wine back into water.
When you play this song, Al Qaeda wins,
and Jesus was American.

On Oct 12, 2016 11:14 PM, "rooty"  wrote:
>
>
> aff..
>
>  Original Message 
>
> On Oct 12, 2016, 7:07 PM, justa wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is concerning.
>>
>>
>> Russia, Syria and the UK SITREP October 12, 2016 by Auslander
>>
http://thesaker.is/russia-syria-and-the-uk-sitrep-october-12-2016-by-auslander/

Re: [WAR] Any UK pilot in Syria, can trigger WW3

[rooty]

aff..



 Original Message 
On Oct 12, 2016, 7:07 PM, justa wrote:
This is concerning.


Russia, Syria and the UK SITREP October 12, 2016 by Auslander
http://thesaker.is/russia-syria-and-the-uk-sitrep-october-12-2016-by-auslander/

[WAR] Any UK pilot in Syria, can trigger WW3

[justa]

This is concerning.


Russia, Syria and the UK SITREP October 12, 2016 by Auslander
http://thesaker.is/russia-syria-and-the-uk-sitrep-october-12-2016-by-auslander/

Re: Jake and Tor article

[rooty]

aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!

affim not clicking the link



 Original Message 
On Oct 12, 2016, 12:53 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote:

Thanks, cool!

On 10/12/16 11:15 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

On Oct 12, 2016 12:21 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHJHHA! ((espanol) JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!

Now rooty will create a new conspiracy theory with the subject "Razer = juan" 
and the dramatic advertency "You have been warned", aff... :(

* Bonus Hahaha!! - 
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/12/5-or-how-to-laugh-online-in-other-languages/266175/

* Bonus Subversive Unicorn: - 
https://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-pooping-unicorn-smiling-rainbow-sky-image39768836

Re: Jake and Tor article

[Stephen D. Williams]

Thanks, cool!

On 10/12/16 11:15 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>
> On Oct 12, 2016 12:21 PM, "Razer"  > wrote:
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHAHJHHA! ((espanol) JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!
>
> Now rooty will create a new conspiracy theory with the subject  "Razer = 
> juan" and the dramatic advertency "You have been warned",
> aff...  :(
>
> *  Bonus Hahaha!!  -  
> http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/12/5-or-how-to-laugh-online-in-other-languages/266175/
>
> *  Bonus Subversive Unicorn:  -  
> https://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-pooping-unicorn-smiling-rainbow-sky-image39768836
>

small bit on war propaganda

[juan]

Even greenwald, whose radicalism isn't too radical, gets it. 


https://theintercept.com/2016/10/11/in-the-democratic-echo-chamber-inconvenient-truths-are-recast-as-putin-plots/

"...insinuating that anyone who questions or opposes those
leaders is a stooge or agent of the Kremlin, tasked with a
subversive and dangerously un-American mission on behalf of
hostile actors in Moscow." 

Re: Climate change - Antarctic ice cover hits record highs, last 3 yrs in a row

[Razer]

On 10/12/2016 07:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> 
> With Ice Growing at Both Poles,


The Northwest passage is open.

Maybe the ice is really really specific about where it wants to be eh?

Let's just hope it grows or shrinks at both poles in unison or the world
might flip upside down...

Rr

Re: The arrest of NSA contractor Harold Thomas Martin III

[Razer]

> For some portion of that time, Martin was in the world’s most elite hacker 
> shop: the NSA’s Tailored Access Organization, according to a former member of 
> the group."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-contractor-thought-to-have-taken-classified-material-the-old-fashioned-way/2016/10/12/ffc25e22-8cb1-11e6-875e-2c1bfe943b66_story.html

Welp, He could have had the bots the NSA uses to make it look like China
and Russia are attacking US cyberstructure. They say he was 'front
office', but who really knows what that means in context of the NSA.

Make it look like Russia snitched #PodestaEmails for instance.

Perhaps Guccifer 2.0 is TAO. After all, the stuff's been posted at
wordpress.com and the site's moderators aren't taking it down.
https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/10/04/clinton-foundation/






On 10/06/2016 10:44 AM, Razer wrote:
> Unlike  Edward Snowden, who brought us information about the NSA's
> spying operations, Harold Thomas Martin III had been squirreling away
> Malware code, apparently for years (no word on whether he was author or
> contributor and was just saving snippets for other projects, which would
> still undoubtedly be illegal). Some of the code is apparently the kind
> that make it look like others are attacking a system, like Erections
> 2016 cyberops... botnets.
> 
> He was ARRESTED IN SECRET OVER A MONTH AGO.
> 
> They say he was being grilled to figure out his 'psychological
> motivations'... but perhaps they found their perfect opportunity to
> blame the election hacking on Russia and they didn't want some pissant
> contractor blowing their cyber and PR operation if the public found out
> that code was 'in the wild' and anyone could have been doing it.
> 
> Rr
> 

Re: Climate change - Antarctic ice cover hits record highs, last 3 yrs in a row

[Tom]

Grundgütiger!

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 01:31:28AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> With Ice Growing at Both Poles, Global Warming Theories Implode
> http://principia-scientific.org/ice-growing-poles-global-warming-theories-implode/

https://denierlist.wordpress.com/tag/principia-scientific-international/
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Postma1.html

Also, the "article" is two years old.


So, Mr.Zenaan, could you please be so kind and stop the hell with that
crap? This is cypherpunks, not republicans-against-scie...@utah.gov.

To get educated, you should better read Phil Plait for example:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/tag/climate-change/.




Thanks.

Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

HAHAHAHAHAHJHHA! ((espanol) JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!

"Violet Blue Journalist"?

Her last Medium post was in June and starts off waxing ecstatic about
all the publicity she was getting.
https://medium.com/@violetblue/but-he-does-good-work-6710df9d9029#.aui1mzcmb

This Guardian article has nothing new whatsoever and is just an attempt
to stir shit. Which IS pretty much what the Guardian's turned into over
the last few years.

Also note she claimed:
"I was standing with my Chronicle editor, Eve Batey, when Jake told the
group he fucked the models, and that he’d ejaculate under or around the
desk of someone he didn’t like. He joked, “Don’t drop your muffin,
buddy!” And that’s when Eve and I bailed out."

Funny how there hasn't been a peep from Batey about this.

Rr

On 10/12/2016 03:59 AM, Henry Rivera wrote:
> In the popular press:
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/jacob-appelbaum-tor-project-sexual-assault-allegations

Re: [Nuclear/CB War] Cuban Muscle Crisis

[Razer]

On 10/11/2016 08:37 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> 
>> General prognosis: many megadeaths.
>>
>> There is some hope for avoidance of the emerging pattern with
>> prompt action of correct nature.
>>
>> Probability of such avoidance is 0.17 ± 0.05.
>>
>> No blame.”
>>
> 
> "No blame my ass!"
> 
> - Hagbard Celine
> 
> (If I remember correctly...)
> 


Need a copy?

https://mega.nz/#!HRlDRSJQ!cewmeT7kq3oZxR__-4bjqUPxGktQ6nPsLUA646Ozdj8

Re: [WAR] Trump: "Assad is killing ISIS, Russia is killing ISIS, and Iran is killing ISIS."

[justa]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:25:27PM +1100, justa wrote:

> US Is the World's Premier Nation-Breaker
> http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/07/the-united-states-as-destroyer-of-nations/

This article is quite insightful, for example, it quotes from the USA
State Department's Directory of Policy Planning in 1948, finding clear
foundations for the behaviour of the USA since, which includes this
summary worthy snippet:
   "We should cease to talk about vague — and for the Far East — unreal
   objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards,
   and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have
   to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are hampered by
   idealistic slogans, the better."

Even this quote cannot begin to embody the totality of the events of the
last 75 years, but the article provides some insights that may be
useful.

Re: FreeBSD 11.0 Released

[John Newman]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 07:16:47AM -0400, John Newman wrote:
> >> No. Ipfilter (aka: Ipf) is Darren's / Phil's and has been
> >> dropped by Open and Dragonfly BSD, for license and
> >> other reasons, including being a dead project.
> >> last release: e9d51c6e58f549c4ab499254c81c90d2
> >> 
> >> PF (packet filter) is Open's, IPFW2 (ipfirewall) is Free's,
> >> NPF is Net's, IPFW3 is Dragon's. All actively maintained
> >> by their own communities. PF is ported to all.
> > 
> > Right, but all the SYNTAX was stolen from IPF.  Or copied. Whatever you 
> > want to call it.
> > 
> > Pf has made some nice improvements in the years since, but there is no 
> > doubt it started as a clone of IPF so Theo could include the superior 
> > software firewall mechanism in openbsd without the license restrictions.
> > 
> > 
> > John
> 
> I've always thought the IPFW mechanism in FreeBSD was crap, compared to 
> IPF/PF, just as an aside... 
> 
> Years ago IPF was actually also ported to Solaris and Linux. I used it on 
> some Sun boxes when I was just a little guy a long fucking time ago.  
> 
> 
> John
> > 
> 

Off-topic - I can't stand the way the phone email clients I habitually
use format email. The results come out looking horrible. It's rare
that I have a chance to reply to the list from an actual computer
(generally I'm too busy when I'm in front of a real computer)...

Anyway, I suppose I could start using mutt on android :P 


John


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Re: FreeBSD 11.0 Released

[John Newman]

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 7:04 AM, John Newman  wrote:
> 
> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 12:48 AM, grarpamp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:28 PM, John Newman  wrote:
>>> Yes I use FreeBSD 10
>>> it has supported PF
>>> for a long time, which it basically stole from
>>> openbsd (who stole it from Darren Reed).
>> 
>> No. Ipfilter (aka: Ipf) is Darren's / Phil's and has been
>> dropped by Open and Dragonfly BSD, for license and
>> other reasons, including being a dead project.
>> last release: e9d51c6e58f549c4ab499254c81c90d2
>> 
>> PF (packet filter) is Open's, IPFW2 (ipfirewall) is Free's,
>> NPF is Net's, IPFW3 is Dragon's. All actively maintained
>> by their own communities. PF is ported to all.
> 
> Right, but all the SYNTAX was stolen from IPF.  Or copied. Whatever you want 
> to call it.
> 
> Pf has made some nice improvements in the years since, but there is no doubt 
> it started as a clone of IPF so Theo could include the superior software 
> firewall mechanism in openbsd without the license restrictions.
> 
> 
> John

I've always thought the IPFW mechanism in FreeBSD was crap, compared to IPF/PF, 
just as an aside... 

Years ago IPF was actually also ported to Solaris and Linux. I used it on some 
Sun boxes when I was just a little guy a long fucking time ago.  


John
> 

Re: FreeBSD 11.0 Released

[John Newman]

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 12:48 AM, grarpamp  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:28 PM, John Newman  wrote:
>> Yes I use FreeBSD 10
>> it has supported PF
>> for a long time, which it basically stole from
>> openbsd (who stole it from Darren Reed).
> 
> No. Ipfilter (aka: Ipf) is Darren's / Phil's and has been
> dropped by Open and Dragonfly BSD, for license and
> other reasons, including being a dead project.
> last release: e9d51c6e58f549c4ab499254c81c90d2
> 
> PF (packet filter) is Open's, IPFW2 (ipfirewall) is Free's,
> NPF is Net's, IPFW3 is Dragon's. All actively maintained
> by their own communities. PF is ported to all.

Right, but all the SYNTAX was stolen from IPF.  Or copied. Whatever you want to 
call it.

Pf has made some nice improvements in the years since, but there is no doubt it 
started as a clone of IPF so Theo could include the superior software firewall 
mechanism in openbsd without the license restrictions.


John

Jake and Tor article

[Henry Rivera]

In the popular press:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/jacob-appelbaum-tor-project-sexual-assault-allegations

Re: FreeBSD 11.0 Released

[grarpamp]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Tom  wrote:
> You didn't ask, but: if you ever use FreeBSD for a longer time, you'll
> never go back to Linux. At least not voluntarily :)

Many don't get that the Linux "distros" are often just that,
distributions... of the same damn thing... they make some app
bundling and packager choices but that's about it. Except for
the commercial ventures like RedHat which do contribute sizeable
raw development.
Whereas the BSD's all picked something long ago and generally
stick with it to this day, with blending across them...
Open - secure, free
Free - serving, all around utility, hardware, storage
Dragon - clustering
Net - platforms including your toaster

> In the end you'll need to compare them yourself, features, policies,
> hardware support, security, whatever.

That's the key as always. Someone really needs to
maintain a giant wiki table with this and the bsd's.

Re: FreeBSD 11.0 Released

[Tom]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 02:18:40AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> > Also of note that GNU also has its own kernel, Hurd (microkernel-based),
> > which is still under development a couple of decades later.
> 
> So is plan9 and a bunch of other stuff that still hasn't
> gone anyware. Oh well.

But don't worry, it's already scheduled for 2057. Be prepared ...



- Tom

Re: FreeBSD 11.0 Released

[grarpamp]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Shawn K. Quinn  wrote:
> It is important not to confuse Linux, the kernel, with GNU, the actual

I don't. Sure there's bsd-gnuland and linux-bsdland hybrids now too.
Yet to a bsd user, the linux kernel is the most visible trackable thing
to them guiding what they can do with any linux (even though to match
a bsd base you have to pack at least binutils and glibc to linux kernel...
but that's mostly moot herein).

> Also of note that GNU also has its own kernel, Hurd (microkernel-based),
> which is still under development a couple of decades later.

So is plan9 and a bunch of other stuff that still hasn't
gone anyware. Oh well.

Re: FreeBSD 11.0 Released

[Shawn K. Quinn]

On Wed, 2016-10-12 at 01:50 -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> Linux is on it's own M.m.r release model.

It is important not to confuse Linux, the kernel, with GNU, the actual
operating system. Linux, the kernel, and GNU, the operating system, are
developed mostly independently of each other. Technically, there is no
requirement that one run only a GNU variant under Linux, the kernel, or
that GNU must run only under Linux, the kernel (in fact there is or at
least was a port of GNU to the FreeBSD kernel at one time).

Also of note that GNU also has its own kernel, Hurd (microkernel-based),
which is still under development a couple of decades later.

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn