Re: Chilling Dissent: The Just-Us Dept Fights DreamHost for Trump Protest site disruptj20.org Info
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 02:29:49AM -0300, Juan wrote: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 00:18:32 -0500 > "shill kkk quinn" vomited > > >. Say what you will about Hillary, she > > would have handled this with far more grace > > priceless ... for everything else, there's Mir card :) (I kid, I kid, BRICS would -never- get financially strong...)
almost impossible to believe - chemical weapons covert op in Syria
Such gumption - dunno how RussiaInsider can live insider themselves writing such salacious facts, shaming the CIA, USA, DOD etc! ** Syrian Army Allegedly Finds Delicious US Chemical Agents in Former 'Moderate' Rebel Strongholds http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413cb3652f&id=9dc15493b3&e=5110f4b440 by TASS on Wed, Aug 16, 2017 Chemical agents found at arms depots abandoned by militants suggest they were delivered to terrorists in Syria from the United States and the United Kingdom, Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mekdad said at a press conference in Damascus on Wednesday. "All the special means that have been found include hand grenades and rocket projectiles for grenade launchers, which are supplied with CS and CN irritant agents [they are shown in transparencies]. The discovered chemical munitions shown in the transparency were produced by Federal Laboratories on the US territory. And the chemical agents were produced by Cherming Defence UK and NonLethal Technologies (the USA)," Mekdad said.
Re: Chilling Dissent: The Just-Us Dept Fights DreamHost for Trump Protest site disruptj20.org Info
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:18:32AM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > Say what you will about Hillary, she would have > handled this with far more grace and wouldn't be resorting > to such tactics to silence her critics. Of course Hitlery Clinton wouldn't silence the Seth Rich whistleblowers from her own core IT team. We all know she's a very loving and caring woman only interested in liberating brown people from their physical bodies.
Re: Chilling Dissent: The Just-Us Dept Fights DreamHost for Trump Protest site disruptj20.org Info
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 00:18:32 -0500 "shill kkk quinn" vomited >. Say what you will about Hillary, she > would have handled this with far more grace priceless
Re: Chilling Dissent: The Just-Us Dept Fights DreamHost for Trump Protest site disruptj20.org Info
On 08/16/2017 11:17 AM, Razer wrote (quoting lawfareblog.com): > The Justice Department is fighting for information on all of the > visitors to the website disruptj20.org, as well as log files on when > and from where the visitors logged onto the site, what they looked at, > and emails related to the site. The site at the center of the storm > bills itself as a platform connecting Trump protesters and > "support[ing] the massive and spontaneous eruption of resistance > across the United States that’s happened since the election." I saw something mentioned about 1.3 million IP addresses involved. Well, as I replied to a posting of this story on Facebook, they can have 1.3 million copies of my middle finger. It's so obvious to me this is partisan crap from DJT. Say what you will about Hillary, she would have handled this with far more grace and wouldn't be resorting to such tactics to silence her critics. I hope we get Bernie in 2020. To be fair though, we can't possibly elect anyone much worse than DJT, so voting Democrat will almost certainly be an improvement over the status quo (assuming we still have DJT then, hopefully at least DJT will be impeached and Pence will be in). -- Shawn K. Quinn http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:52:42PM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > https://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/ > > Google Terms of Service > > Last modified: April 14, 2014 (view archived versions) > > [...] > > Using our Services > > You must follow any policies made available to you within the Services. > > Don’t misuse our Services. For example, don’t under any > circumstances misspell Shawn KKK Quinn's name, nor interfere with our Damn! That's some serious pull you've got there budd! Just watch you don't get bong lung - the negative pressure from such pull combined with the chemical effects from burnt carbohydrate budd particulates can cause some serious lung-wall degenerative diseases if you're not super careful with your diet and detox regularly - I've heard coffee enemas can be a bit intense though. Good luck, > Services or try to access them using a method other than the interface > and the instructions that we provide. You may use our Services only as > permitted by law, including applicable export and re-export control laws > and regulations. We may suspend or stop providing our Services to you if > you do not comply with our terms or policies or if we are investigating > suspected misconduct. > > --- > > Violation of Google's terms of service reported on 2017-08-17T03:52Z. > > -- > Shawn K. Quinn > http://www.rantroulette.com > http://www.skqrecordquest.com
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:45:44PM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 08/16/2017 10:08 PM, #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$ wrote: > > > #$%&#$%&#$ %&#$%&#$% &#$%&#$% &#$% Shawn Quin, #$ %&#$%. > > The correct spelling of my name was (and is) in my signature and the > from line. Intentionally misspelling my name only shows your own > ignorance and lack of respect. Tell your bloody employer's IT dept that they their "Quinn posts tracking script" not only needs to be updated, but should be very easy to do. I'll even do it for the lazy bastards - here ya go: - egrep -i --count 'shawn( k\.?)? quinn' + egrep -i --count 'shawn( k\.?)? quinn?' Sheesh ...
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 22:45:44 -0500 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > On 08/16/2017 10:08 PM, #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$ wrote: > > > #$%&#$%&#$ %&#$%&#$% &#$%&#$% &#$% Shawn Quin, #$ %&#$%. > > The correct spelling of my name was (and is) in my signature and the > from line. Intentionally misspelling my name only shows your own > ignorance and lack of respect. that's the first thing ever you got right, shill quinn, I have a lot more respect for, say, rats than for a piece of shit like you. You get exactly as much respect as you deserve : zero. > Moderator, please remove the person I am replying to from the list. as far as I know there's no moderator in this list. Why don't you go back to whatever fascist cybercesspool you came from? If you have trouble sending email, call the cops, they will assist you.
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
From: Razer
On 08/16/2017 08:11 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Mencken comes to mind:
> The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends
> most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against
> scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression
> must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.
> "
> H. L. Mencken, US editor (1880 - 1956)
> http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/29591.html
> https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:H._L._Mencken
>You're confused about whose oppressing whom.
>A middle class white person with an automatic weapon, 'tactical bacon',
A 'tactical bacon'? Is that for hitting Muslims? ("Oink!!!") Jim
Bell
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
https://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/ Google Terms of Service Last modified: April 14, 2014 (view archived versions) [...] Using our Services You must follow any policies made available to you within the Services. Don’t misuse our Services. For example, don’t interfere with our Services or try to access them using a method other than the interface and the instructions that we provide. You may use our Services only as permitted by law, including applicable export and re-export control laws and regulations. We may suspend or stop providing our Services to you if you do not comply with our terms or policies or if we are investigating suspected misconduct. --- Violation of Google's terms of service reported on 2017-08-17T03:52Z. -- Shawn K. Quinn http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On 08/16/2017 10:08 PM, #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$ wrote: > #$%&#$%&#$ %&#$%&#$% &#$%&#$% &#$% Shawn Quin, #$ %&#$%. The correct spelling of my name was (and is) in my signature and the from line. Intentionally misspelling my name only shows your own ignorance and lack of respect. Moderator, please remove the person I am replying to from the list. -- Shawn K. Quinn http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 08:41:24PM -0700, Razer wrote: > On 08/16/2017 08:35 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 08:16:44PM -0700, Razer wrote: > >> On 08/16/2017 08:11 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >>> Indeed. > >>> > >>> Mencken comes to mind: > >>> > >>> " > >>>The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends > >>>most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against > >>>scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression > >>>must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. > >>> " > >>> H. L. Mencken, US editor (1880 - 1956) > >>> http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/29591.html > >>> https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:H._L._Mencken > >>> > >> You're confused about whose oppressing whom. > >> > >> A middle class white person with an automatic weapon, 'tactical bacon', > >> dirty socks, and briefs with 'racing stripes' terrorizing children is an > >> oppressor and should be marked for extermination... with malice > >> aforethought. > > I hope that the legal process is conducted fairly and impartially, > > and by the things you seem to suggest and seem to incite on this > > list, you should perhaps hope for fair and impartial legal processes > > too... glass houses and all... > > > > > >> Then we can all go back to living in peace. Without oppression by the > >> aforementioned > > You are not being oppressed, that would be ... > > > >> self-victimizing > > One more time... "By definition anyone who would deny, or ESPOUSES the > denial of someone's right to exist One more time: put up some facts, or you are merely continuing with your strawman in justification of evil against your fellow humans. (And a hint for the future - repitition does not make a fact.)
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On 08/16/2017 08:35 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 08:16:44PM -0700, Razer wrote: >> >> On 08/16/2017 08:11 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> Indeed. >>> >>> Mencken comes to mind: >>> >>> " >>>The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends >>>most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against >>>scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression >>>must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. >>> " >>> H. L. Mencken, US editor (1880 - 1956) >>> http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/29591.html >>> https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:H._L._Mencken >>> >> You're confused about whose oppressing whom. >> >> A middle class white person with an automatic weapon, 'tactical bacon', >> dirty socks, and briefs with 'racing stripes' terrorizing children is an >> oppressor and should be marked for extermination... with malice >> aforethought. > I hope that the legal process is conducted fairly and impartially, > and by the things you seem to suggest and seem to incite on this > list, you should perhaps hope for fair and impartial legal processes > too... glass houses and all... > > >> Then we can all go back to living in peace. Without oppression by the >> aforementioned > You are not being oppressed, that would be ... > >> self-victimizing One more time... "By definition anyone who would deny, or ESPOUSES the denial of someone's right to exist based on some unalterable feature of their existence like skin color of religion of birth forfeits not only forfeits their right to 'free speech', they forfeit the right to exist themselves, because to allow it implies you'd allow your own self-extermination. In other words you have to proactively act in self-defense." Nazi ideology's mere existence implies oppression. Rr > "oh mirror, mirror on the wall, whose the victimest of them all, of > course it's me, Razer unclear, tell me now, lest hammer on you should > fall!" > > Razer! You should not treat your mirror with such intimidation now... > > >> scumbags > One highly disturbing event, is your foregone conclusion (you may be > right about the individual, but ...) ? > > > How .. anarchistically anarchist... or something > > >> Rr >> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 07:32:39PM -0700, Mike Duvos wrote: Oddly, Tucker Carlson just said almost the same thing on his show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2rO9boyLL0 In a few months, there will be uncensorable versions of every single service that kicked The Daily Stormer off today. The Internet responds pretty quickly to attempts to damage the free flow of information. On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Umair Chachar wrote: > Joshua, I think you might've missed what Mike was trying to say. With mega > corporate overlords taking over control of the internet, they can deny any > unpopular speech from being put on the internet just by declaring that > it's > "hate speech."
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On 08/16/2017 08:29 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 08:10:53PM -0700, Razer wrote: >> On 08/16/2017 08:03 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> In either case, your level of belligerence is offensive. >> Good. >> >> Rr >> >> PS. I'm pretty sure I've posted this before, but it's on-topic here. > Strawmen can be fun to joust with, or to learn to joust with, but > your persistent and conscious belligerence in using your strawmen to > justify evil, is demonstrating that you, Razer/Leigh/L., are a > dangerous man who is on the journey to actual evil toward your fellow > humans. I thugged a junkie the other day who tried to clip my cellie at a local coffee shop and didn't even turn him and his thieving GF over to the police (just pointed out that I was going to hunt him down and kill him later... Haven't seen him since... prolly left town) but most people who meet me consider me a pretty nice guy. Except NAZIS, RACISTS, etc, ofc. Over the years I've done more volunteer work in my community than most people do in their lives. To community radio stations where I donated my audio and RF tech skills, soup kitchens, FNB, and a bunch of orgs in-between. > Perhaps you ought caution yourself. I really should do that... 'Caution myself' not to waste my time responding to you. Rr
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 08:16:44PM -0700, Razer wrote: > > > On 08/16/2017 08:11 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Indeed. > > > > Mencken comes to mind: > > > > " > >The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends > >most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against > >scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression > >must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. > > " > > H. L. Mencken, US editor (1880 - 1956) > > http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/29591.html > > https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:H._L._Mencken > > > > You're confused about whose oppressing whom. > > A middle class white person with an automatic weapon, 'tactical bacon', > dirty socks, and briefs with 'racing stripes' terrorizing children is an > oppressor and should be marked for extermination... with malice > aforethought. I hope that the legal process is conducted fairly and impartially, and by the things you seem to suggest and seem to incite on this list, you should perhaps hope for fair and impartial legal processes too... glass houses and all... > Then we can all go back to living in peace. Without oppression by the > aforementioned You are not being oppressed, that would be ... > self-victimizing "oh mirror, mirror on the wall, whose the victimest of them all, of course it's me, Razer unclear, tell me now, lest hammer on you should fall!" Razer! You should not treat your mirror with such intimidation now... > scumbags One highly disturbing event, is your foregone conclusion (you may be right about the individual, but ...) ? How .. anarchistically anarchist... or something > Rr > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 07:32:39PM -0700, Mike Duvos wrote: > >> Oddly, Tucker Carlson just said almost the same thing on his show. > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2rO9boyLL0 > >> > >> In a few months, there will be uncensorable versions of every single > >> service that kicked The Daily Stormer off today. The Internet > >> responds pretty quickly to attempts to damage the free flow of > >> information. > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Umair Chachar > >> wrote: > >>> Joshua, I think you might've missed what Mike was trying to say. With mega > >>> corporate overlords taking over control of the internet, they can deny any > >>> unpopular speech from being put on the internet just by declaring that > >>> it's > >>> "hate speech." >
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 08:10:53PM -0700, Razer wrote: > On 08/16/2017 08:03 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > In either case, your level of belligerence is offensive. > > Good. > > Rr > > PS. I'm pretty sure I've posted this before, but it's on-topic here. Strawmen can be fun to joust with, or to learn to joust with, but your persistent and conscious belligerence in using your strawmen to justify evil, is demonstrating that you, Razer/Leigh/L., are a dangerous man who is on the journey to actual evil toward your fellow humans. Perhaps you ought caution yourself.
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On 08/16/2017 08:11 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Indeed. > > Mencken comes to mind: > > " >The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends >most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against >scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression >must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. > " > H. L. Mencken, US editor (1880 - 1956) > http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/29591.html > https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:H._L._Mencken > You're confused about whose oppressing whom. A middle class white person with an automatic weapon, 'tactical bacon', dirty socks, and briefs with 'racing stripes' terrorizing children is an oppressor and should be marked for extermination... with malice aforethought. Then we can all go back to living in peace. Without oppression by the aforementioned self-victimizing scumbags Rr > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 07:32:39PM -0700, Mike Duvos wrote: >> Oddly, Tucker Carlson just said almost the same thing on his show. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2rO9boyLL0 >> >> In a few months, there will be uncensorable versions of every single >> service that kicked The Daily Stormer off today. The Internet >> responds pretty quickly to attempts to damage the free flow of >> information. >> >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Umair Chachar >> wrote: >>> Joshua, I think you might've missed what Mike was trying to say. With mega >>> corporate overlords taking over control of the internet, they can deny any >>> unpopular speech from being put on the internet just by declaring that it's >>> "hate speech."
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
Indeed. Mencken comes to mind: " The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. " H. L. Mencken, US editor (1880 - 1956) http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/29591.html https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:H._L._Mencken On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 07:32:39PM -0700, Mike Duvos wrote: > Oddly, Tucker Carlson just said almost the same thing on his show. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2rO9boyLL0 > > In a few months, there will be uncensorable versions of every single > service that kicked The Daily Stormer off today. The Internet > responds pretty quickly to attempts to damage the free flow of > information. > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Umair Chachar > wrote: > > Joshua, I think you might've missed what Mike was trying to say. With mega > > corporate overlords taking over control of the internet, they can deny any > > unpopular speech from being put on the internet just by declaring that it's > > "hate speech."
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On 08/16/2017 08:03 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > In either case, your level of belligerence is offensive. Good. Rr PS. I'm pretty sure I've posted this before, but it's on-topic here.
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 09:28:14PM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 08/16/2017 03:57 PM, Mike Duvos wrote: > > It will be interesting to see what happens with the site, because > > right now, they are kind of the Spotted Owl in the free speech forest. > > Honestly, I think we're overdue for SCOTUS to make some new rulings on > the First Amendment, though I am not sure I want the current SCOTUS to > be the one making those rulings. (We all know Merrick Garland should be > on the bench in place of Gorsuch, or at least should have gotten a > proper "nay" vote.) > > How much of what is or was on The Daily Stormer could be qualified in > some form as "fighting words" (i.e. in the words of Justice Frank Murphy > "those [words] which by their very utterances inflict injury or tend to > incite an immediate breach of the peace")? How much of what has been > posted to this list could potentially qualify? > > I'm not Jewish and nowhere near black, yet I find what happened in > Charlottesville horrifying. This is 2017, not 1957 or 1877. > > -- > Shawn K. Quinn > http://www.rantroulette.com > http://www.skqrecordquest.com Astounding anarchist position from Shawn Quin, AS USUAL. You're up there with Chomsky's "pro" science stand :D
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 07:27:26PM -0700, Razer wrote:
>
>
> On 08/16/2017 05:32 PM, Umair Chachar wrote:
> > Joshua, I think you might've missed what Mike was trying to say. With
> > mega corporate overlords taking over control of the internet, they can
> > deny any unpopular speech from being put on the internet just by
> > declaring that it's "hate speech."
> >
> > Literally what I just said could be counted as "hate speech" because
> > it's such a subjective term. It's a threat to freedom of speech.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Umair Chachar
> >
>
> It's NOT specifically about speech. By definition anyone who would deny,
> or ESPOUSES the denial of someone's right to exist
And that's just one of the bullshit lies you keep espousing, L!
As you consistently mis-represent your "opponent"'s position, and try
to do nothing with your "opponent"'s views but "shut it down",
you are shutting down nothing other than your own strawman - but you
know this, since it keeps getting pointed out to you, and you keep
spewing this specific bullshit anyway.
Your persistence in this bullshit demonstrates that not only are you
politically active in your communication on something you consider
important, but that you continue to take only a belligerent extremist
position in your communication, leading the read to assume either:
a) you are "rationally" assuming that such belligerence is beneficial
to your preferred social cause/outcome; or
b) you are unaware of the egregiousness of your "techniques" of
communication and therefore the disingenuousness abundantly
evident in your communication tactics, and fundamentally a fool.
In either case, your level of belligerence is offensive.
Any sane, rational person would absolutely support you in opposing
horrible human behaviour, be it murder, torture or even lesser crimes
such as intimidation.
But how do you expect any sane rational person support your
fundamentally Antifi-like "terrorist" tactics (to use a ridiculously
overused and misused term these days)?
Yes you have some great stories from your hey day of opposing The
Man, with which you regale us occasionally - and hey, thanks, I enjoy
reading these of course. And you know enough words to demonstrate an
interest in "intellectual discourse". But damn, can you give up your
persecution complex already and man the firetruck up?!
By founding your entire discourse on a lie, and using this strawman
to justify horror untold, you demonstrate that you, Razer or Leigh
or whatever you want to be called today, ARE WELL ON THE WAY TO BEING
AN ABOLUTE MONSTER.
I tend to assume that overuse of THC leads to a sad and significant
reduction in self awareness, but such an issue can never justify the
horror you keep calling for - YOU either are, or are apparently
becoming, the evil you claim to oppose!
Good luck all,
Zenaan
> based on some
> unalterable feature of their existence like skin color of religion of
> birth forfeits not only forfeits their right to 'free speech', they
> forfeit the right to exist themselves, because to allow it implies you'd
> allow your own self-extermination. In other words you have to
> proactively act in self-defense.
>
> OFC then they claim to be the victims.
>
> Meanwhile the Stormer article that got them bounced from GoDaddy said
> (paraphrase) the woman who got run down (a tactic learned from 'islamic
> terrorists' btw) was a fat 30-something year old woman who hadn't bred
> and therefore she was worthless. What I said above about "ESPOUSES the
> denial of someone's right to exist based on..." is operational here.
>
>
> Also note during the Bundy Bozos Oregon standoff there were adolescents
> and teen speaking to a city meeting about the refuge occupation
> literally in tears claiming they were in abject fear of the Bundy crew.
>
> In other words. Terrorism. What do we do with terrorists? ESPECIALLY
> ones who terrorize CHILDREN?
>
> Death is too good for them. I can't wait to 'victimize' a few affluent
> white men who can afford 'tactical bacon' and replica military weapons
> (but forgot their clean socks and tidy [snigger] whities) I knew guys
> like that at the disc drive company I worked for. They moved from
> affluent white suburbs to places in semi-rural areas outside cities and
> were frightened of everything, imaginary marauders who were going to
> home-invade their semi-rural paradise, and the Mexican restaurant
> workers next door ('gangbangers' natch) too, and bought guns, and were
> the most likely people to crack and show up at work to slaughter their
> co-workers.
>
> Rr
>
>
>
>
> >
> >> Original Message
> >> Subject: RE: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
> >> Local Time: August 16, 2017 5:09 PM
> >> UTC Time: August 16, 2017 9:09 PM
> >> From: joshua2...@protonmail.ch
> >> To: cp
> >>
> >> I'm so glad to hear it!
> >>
> >> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
> >>
> >> -- Forwarded message --
> >> From: Mike Duvosmailto:m...@wolf359.
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:46:53 -0700 Razer wrote: > > > On 08/16/2017 07:38 PM, juan wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:27:26 -0700 > > Razer wrote: > > > > > >> In other words. Terrorism. What do we do with terrorists? > >> ESPECIALLY ones who terrorize CHILDREN? > >> > >> Death is too good for them. > > > > are you talking about US 'military personnel'? > > > > > > No. Oh of course 'we' know on whose side you are =)
Australia's most significant free speech court case ever, begins in our highest court tomorrow -- [perso...@bernardgaynor.com.au: Battle to preserve our freedoms before High Court on Friday]
Here in Australia, the High Court is our highest court. Bernard Gaynor stands for the right (specifically here, of government employees) to speak their political views in a private capacity, when not at work. Bernard Gaynor is a conservative, and so his political views have been well against the "Liberal Lefty" mainstream of Western ideological indocrination. Notwithstanding whether one agrees with Bernard Gaynor, or holds different views to any extent, the principle at stake in this landmark Australian High Court case is the right to express or communicate one's views publicly, in your private capacity, even when you're employed by the government. -- Make no mistake, this is a landmark case, whatever the legal outcome; and the outcome of this court case shall definitively and decisively affect all "political discourse" (that's our "free speech", which is any speech which may be considered political in character), in Australia! (I'm not sure if this is the High Court, or the High Court "Full Court" or "Court of Appeal" - the point being there may yet actually be another, final round.) This court case is a fantastic opportunity for Australia's High Court Jusitices to do Australia proud and proclaim our free speech rights, or alternatively to cower behind some irrelevant legal point of minutiae, and completely avoid the salient issue at stake, which judging by the enormous and persistent support Bernard Gaynor continues to receive, is an issue of great importance to the Australian people (Bernard was completely unable to fund the huge onslaught of court cases that have been belligerently brought against him, and it has literally been grass small donations that have fueled this fundamental fight on the rights of our fellow Australians). To all newcomers to this very public Australian debate - the ruling to be handed down in due course, is NOT anything to do with the rights of homosexuals, lesbians nor any minority group in Australia; neither is this a court case about whether the Australian army should or should not be engaged in the annual Mardi Gras and or other LGBTTQQPP events; no, this court case is about one thing, and one thing only - the right of all Australians to speak their political views publicly. Do we have free speech in Australia, or do we not? --- This is the question that Australia's High Court is going to decide quite soon, and this is why this court case is one that absolutely ought be supported by all sides of the various "socio-political" debates that humans love to get emotionally involved in. I encourage everyone to make even a very small donation to support Bernard in concluding this important court case. Regards, Zenaan (PS trying again with my normail email addy - looks like the posting rules have been tightened up.) - Forwarded message from Bernard Gaynor - From: Bernard Gaynor To: Zenaan Harkness Reply-To: Bernard Gaynor Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:26:52 + Subject: Battle to preserve our freedoms before High Court on Friday Since I last wrote to you about the resignation of the Defence imam, the battle for freedom has only increased... View this email in your browser (http://mailchi.mp/bernardgaynor/u9ceet3738-840605?e=e81c31ef95) http://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa1558f96210&id=b9269bddaf&e=e81c31ef95 Dear Zenaan, Just over a month ago, I wrote to you with the good news that the Defence imam had resigned. Just today I was informed by a Defence chaplain that the expectation is that the government is looking to replace him with another. That is a battle that I am more than prepared to fight again. And win again. However, there are other fights also going on at the moment, including my two important legal cases to protect freedom of political communication in Australia and the battle to preserve marriage. And, unfortunately, I must once again I must ask for your assistance and support. Free Speech Battle 1: Protect workers with conservative beliefs On Friday the High Court will hear arguments that it should 'grant leave' to allow my case against the Chief of Defence Force to go ahead. For those unfamiliar with this matter, the Chief of Defence Force sacked me (http://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa1558f96210&id=7b6ce4cb93&e=e81c31ef95) for expressing views in my private capacity about Islam, Defence involvement in the Mardi Gras and other politically correct policies such as Defence-funded sex change operations. The Federal Court found in my favour in 2015 but the Full Court of the Federal Court found against me earlier this year. This matter will affect every Australian worker. Essentially, it will determine if they can be sacked for expressing political views outside the workplace that their boss disagrees with, as detailed earlier this year by the Canberra Times (http://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c957
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On 08/16/2017 07:32 PM, Mike Duvos wrote: > Oddly, Tucker Carlson just said almost the same thing on his show. I can pull an extremely similar exposition from cypherpunks archives I wrote a few days ago, addressing ZeNazi I believe. I should check to see if Carlson plagiarized me, but truth be told, what I wrote IS "Bottom Line" in any society that doesn't volunteer to be over-run by murderous scumbags. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2rO9boyLL0 > > In a few months, there will be uncensorable versions of every single > service that kicked The Daily Stormer off today. The Internet > responds pretty quickly to attempts to damage the free flow of > information. I don't think the dark web folks care for nazis much either. Nazis have a long history of collaboration with cooperative governments, and the US government is a known collaborative government (operation gladio for instance) Rr > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Umair Chachar > wrote: >> Joshua, I think you might've missed what Mike was trying to say. With mega >> corporate overlords taking over control of the internet, they can deny any >> unpopular speech from being put on the internet just by declaring that it's >> "hate speech."
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On 08/16/2017 07:38 PM, juan wrote: > On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:27:26 -0700 > Razer wrote: > > >> In other words. Terrorism. What do we do with terrorists? ESPECIALLY >> ones who terrorize CHILDREN? >> >> Death is too good for them. > > are you talking about US 'military personnel'? > > No. I was clearly talking about Bundy's bozos at the Oregon wildlife refuge standoff > Also note during the Bundy Bozos Oregon standoff there were > adolescents and teen speaking to a city meeting about the refuge > occupation literally in tears claiming they were in abject fear of the > Bundy crew. > > In other words. Terrorism. What do we do with terrorists? ESPECIALLY > ones who terrorize CHILDREN? > > Death is too good for them. Rr
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 21:28:14 -0500 shill kkk quinn and american nazi wrote: > On 08/16/2017 03:57 PM, Mike Duvos wrote: > > It will be interesting to see what happens with the site, because > > right now, they are kind of the Spotted Owl in the free speech > > forest. > > Honestly, I think we're overdue for SCOTUS to make some new rulings on > the First Amendment, so what else has this motherfucking idiot posted in this list apart from calls to censorship? I guess his is a full time job.
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:27:26 -0700 Razer wrote: > > In other words. Terrorism. What do we do with terrorists? ESPECIALLY > ones who terrorize CHILDREN? > > Death is too good for them. are you talking about US 'military personnel'?
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:32:21 -0400 Umair Chachar wrote: > Joshua, I think you might've missed what Mike was trying to say. With > mega corporate overlords taking over control of the internet, they > can deny any unpopular speech from being put on the internet just by > declaring that it's "hate speech." meh, the bigger point is that a bunch of redneck 'white supremacists' are being lynched in cyberspace WHILE THE REAL AMERICAN NAZIS keep raping the world like they've been doing since 1776. > > Literally what I just said could be counted as "hate speech" because > it's such a subjective term. It's a threat to freedom of speech. > > Sincerely, > Umair Chachar > > > Original Message > > Subject: RE: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides > > Local Time: August 16, 2017 5:09 PM > > UTC Time: August 16, 2017 9:09 PM > > From: joshua2...@protonmail.ch > > To: cp > > > > I'm so glad to hear it! > > > > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Mike Duvos<[m...@wolf359.net](mailto:m...@wolf359.net class=)> > > Date: On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:57 PM > > Subject: Fwd: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides > > To: <[cypherpu...@cpunks.org](mailto:cypherpu...@cpunks.org )> > > CC: > > > >> Everyone's favorite Neo-Nazi parody and trolling site, The Daily > >> Stormer, written by Andrew Anglin, has had a bad several days. > >> They published an article calling the road rage victim at the > >> "Unite the Right " rally a "fat childless 32-year-old slut, " and > >> the forces of political correctness went wild. GoDaddy gave them > >> 24 hours to find a new domain registrar, and they moved to Google. > >> Google cancelled their registration and froze the domain, > >> preventing them from moving it again, effectively stealing it. > >> They came back up as dailystormer.wang, in Chinese jurisdiction, > >> but that domain was seized after a few hours. They then tried > >> dailystormer.ru, but Cloudflare then dumped them after a Quartz > >> article accused Cloudflare of "Enabling Hate. " Twitter then > >> cancelled their status page. They've managed to get an onion > >> address up, at dstormer6em3i4km.onion which points to the few > >> places they haven't been kicked off of yet. With major chunks of > >> important Internet infrastructure in the hands of giant private > >> corporations, who can decline service to anyone at any time for > >> any reason, unpopular speech can get stomped on without it > >> technically being "censorship ", which is regulation of speech by > >> the government. Reading The Daily Stormer doesn't make anyone a > >> Nazi, anymore than reading The Landover Baptist Church makes > >> someone a Baptist. It will be interesting to see what happens with > >> the site, because right now, they are kind of the Spotted Owl in > >> the free speech forest. -- Mike Duvos m...@wolf359.net
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
Oddly, Tucker Carlson just said almost the same thing on his show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2rO9boyLL0 In a few months, there will be uncensorable versions of every single service that kicked The Daily Stormer off today. The Internet responds pretty quickly to attempts to damage the free flow of information. On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Umair Chachar wrote: > Joshua, I think you might've missed what Mike was trying to say. With mega > corporate overlords taking over control of the internet, they can deny any > unpopular speech from being put on the internet just by declaring that it's > "hate speech."
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
On 08/16/2017 03:57 PM, Mike Duvos wrote: > It will be interesting to see what happens with the site, because > right now, they are kind of the Spotted Owl in the free speech forest. Honestly, I think we're overdue for SCOTUS to make some new rulings on the First Amendment, though I am not sure I want the current SCOTUS to be the one making those rulings. (We all know Merrick Garland should be on the bench in place of Gorsuch, or at least should have gotten a proper "nay" vote.) How much of what is or was on The Daily Stormer could be qualified in some form as "fighting words" (i.e. in the words of Justice Frank Murphy "those [words] which by their very utterances inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace")? How much of what has been posted to this list could potentially qualify? I'm not Jewish and nowhere near black, yet I find what happened in Charlottesville horrifying. This is 2017, not 1957 or 1877. -- Shawn K. Quinn http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com
RE: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
Joshua, I think you might've missed what Mike was trying to say. With mega corporate overlords taking over control of the internet, they can deny any unpopular speech from being put on the internet just by declaring that it's "hate speech." Literally what I just said could be counted as "hate speech" because it's such a subjective term. It's a threat to freedom of speech. Sincerely, Umair Chachar > Original Message > Subject: RE: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides > Local Time: August 16, 2017 5:09 PM > UTC Time: August 16, 2017 9:09 PM > From: joshua2...@protonmail.ch > To: cp > > I'm so glad to hear it! > > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Mike Duvos<[m...@wolf359.net](mailto:m...@wolf359.net class=)> > Date: On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:57 PM > Subject: Fwd: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides > To: <[cypherpu...@cpunks.org](mailto:cypherpu...@cpunks.org )> > CC: > >> Everyone's favorite Neo-Nazi parody and trolling site, The Daily Stormer, >> written by Andrew Anglin, has had a bad several days. They published an >> article calling the road rage victim at the "Unite the Right " rally a "fat >> childless 32-year-old slut, " and the forces of political correctness went >> wild. GoDaddy gave them 24 hours to find a new domain registrar, and they >> moved to Google. Google cancelled their registration and froze the domain, >> preventing them from moving it again, effectively stealing it. They came >> back up as dailystormer.wang, in Chinese jurisdiction, but that domain was >> seized after a few hours. They then tried dailystormer.ru, but Cloudflare >> then dumped them after a Quartz article accused Cloudflare of "Enabling >> Hate. " Twitter then cancelled their status page. They've managed to get an >> onion address up, at dstormer6em3i4km.onion which points to the few places >> they haven't been kicked off of yet. With major chunks of important Internet >> infrastructure in the hands of giant private corporations, who can decline >> service to anyone at any time for any reason, unpopular speech can get >> stomped on without it technically being "censorship ", which is regulation >> of speech by the government. Reading The Daily Stormer doesn't make anyone a >> Nazi, anymore than reading The Landover Baptist Church makes someone a >> Baptist. It will be interesting to see what happens with the site, because >> right now, they are kind of the Spotted Owl in the free speech forest. -- >> Mike Duvos m...@wolf359.net
Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
"... Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me." Martin Niemöller (1892–1984), German Lutheran pastor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... "so glad" hey? This "glad"ness is the sad truth of our generation - despite (and regardless of) all the comedy, tragedy, indifference and corruption, the deepest issues of our day are inevitably sacrificed on the altar of virtue signalling, thus not only blindly indulging in the most superficial society the world has ever seen, but perpetuating its very existence. On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 05:09:44PM -0400, Joshua wrote: > I'm so glad to hear it! > > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Mike Duvos<[m...@wolf359.net](mailto:m...@wolf359.net class=)> > Date: On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:57 PM > Subject: Fwd: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides > To: <[cypherpu...@cpunks.org](mailto:cypherpu...@cpunks.org )> > CC: > > > Everyone's favorite Neo-Nazi parody and trolling site, The Daily Stormer, > > written by Andrew Anglin, has had a bad several days. They published an > > article calling the road rage victim at the "Unite the Right " rally a "fat > > childless 32-year-old slut, " and the forces of political correctness went > > wild. GoDaddy gave them 24 hours to find a new domain registrar, and they > > moved to Google. Google cancelled their registration and froze the domain, > > preventing them from moving it again, effectively stealing it. They came > > back up as dailystormer.wang, in Chinese jurisdiction, but that domain was > > seized after a few hours. They then tried dailystormer.ru, but Cloudflare > > then dumped them after a Quartz article accused Cloudflare of "Enabling > > Hate. " Twitter then cancelled their status page. They've managed to get an > > onion address up, at dstormer6em3i4km.onion which points to the few places > > they haven't been kicked off of yet. With major chunks of important > > Internet infrastructure in the hands of giant private corporations, who can > > decline service to anyone at any time for any reason, unpopular speech can > > get stomped on without it technically being "censorship ", which is > > regulation of speech by the government. Reading The Daily Stormer doesn't > > make anyone a Nazi, anymore than reading The Landover Baptist Church makes > > someone a Baptist. It will be interesting to see what happens with the > > site, because right now, they are kind of the Spotted Owl in the free > > speech forest. -- Mike Duvos m...@wolf359.net
Re: [SlightlyAboveMyPaygrade] The problems with encryption on Android
Nice article Rr +1 : ) On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Razer wrote: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:54:27 -0700 From: Razer To: "cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org" Subject: [SlightlyAboveMyPaygrade] The problems with encryption on Android The limitations of Android N Encryption Over the past few years pixelphonewe’ve heard more about smartphone encryption than, quite frankly, most of us expected to hear in a lifetime. We learned that proper encryption can slow down even sophisticated decryption attempts if done correctly. We’ve also learned that incorrect implementations can undo most of that security. In other words, phone encryption is an area where details matter. For the past few weeks I’ve been looking a bit at Android Nougat’s new file-based encryption to see how well they’ve addressed some of those details in their latest release. The answer, unfortunately, is that there’s still lots of work to do. In this post I’m going to talk about a bit of that. (As an aside: the inspiration for this post comes from Grugq, who has been loudly and angrily trying to work through these kinks to develop a secure Android phone. So credit where credit is due.) Background: file and disk encryption Disk encryption is much older than smartphones. Indeed, early encrypting filesystems date back at least to the early 1990s and proprietary implementations may go back before that. Even in the relatively new area of PCs operating systems, disk encryption has been a built-in feature since the early 2000s. The typical PC disk encryption system operates as follows. At boot time you enter a password. This is fed through a key derivation function to derive a cryptographic key. If a hardware co-processor is available (e.g., a TPM), your key is further strengthened by “tangling” it with some secrets stored in the hardware. This helps to lock encryption to a particular device. The actual encryption can be done in one of two different ways: Full Disk Encryption (FDE) systems (like Truecrypt, BitLocker and FileVault) encrypt disks at the level of disk sectors. This is an all-or-nothing approach, since the encryption drivers won’t necessarily have any idea what files those sectors represent. At the same time, FDE is popular — mainly because it’s extremely easy to implement. File-based Encryption (FBE) systems (like EncFS and eCryptFS) encrypt individual files. This approach requires changes to the filesystem itself, but has the benefit of allowing fine grained access controls where individual files are encrypted using different keys. Most commercial PC disk encryption software has historically opted to use the full-disk encryption (FDE) approach. Mostly this is just a matter of expediency: FDE is just significantly easier to implement. But philosophically, it also reflects a particular view of what disk encryption was meant to accomplish. In this view, encryption is an all-or-nothing proposition. Your machine is either on or off; accessible or inaccessible. As long as you make sure to have your laptop stolen only when it’s off, disk encryption will keep you perfectly safe. So what does this have to do with Android? Find out, with links: https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2016/11/24/android-n-encryption/ b...@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
RE: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
I'm so glad to hear it! Sent from ProtonMail Mobile -- Forwarded message -- From: Mike Duvos<[m...@wolf359.net](mailto:m...@wolf359.net class=)> Date: On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:57 PM Subject: Fwd: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides To: <[cypherpu...@cpunks.org](mailto:cypherpu...@cpunks.org )> CC: > Everyone's favorite Neo-Nazi parody and trolling site, The Daily Stormer, > written by Andrew Anglin, has had a bad several days. They published an > article calling the road rage victim at the "Unite the Right " rally a "fat > childless 32-year-old slut, " and the forces of political correctness went > wild. GoDaddy gave them 24 hours to find a new domain registrar, and they > moved to Google. Google cancelled their registration and froze the domain, > preventing them from moving it again, effectively stealing it. They came back > up as dailystormer.wang, in Chinese jurisdiction, but that domain was seized > after a few hours. They then tried dailystormer.ru, but Cloudflare then > dumped them after a Quartz article accused Cloudflare of "Enabling Hate. " > Twitter then cancelled their status page. They've managed to get an onion > address up, at dstormer6em3i4km.onion which points to the few places they > haven't been kicked off of yet. With major chunks of important Internet > infrastructure in the hands of giant private corporations, who can decline > service to anyone at any time for any reason, unpopular speech can get > stomped on without it technically being "censorship ", which is regulation of > speech by the government. Reading The Daily Stormer doesn't make anyone a > Nazi, anymore than reading The Landover Baptist Church makes someone a > Baptist. It will be interesting to see what happens with the site, because > right now, they are kind of the Spotted Owl in the free speech forest. -- > Mike Duvos m...@wolf359.net
Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
Everyone's favorite Neo-Nazi parody and trolling site, The Daily Stormer, written by Andrew Anglin, has had a bad several days. They published an article calling the road rage victim at the "Unite the Right" rally a "fat childless 32-year-old slut," and the forces of political correctness went wild. GoDaddy gave them 24 hours to find a new domain registrar, and they moved to Google. Google cancelled their registration and froze the domain, preventing them from moving it again, effectively stealing it. They came back up as dailystormer.wang, in Chinese jurisdiction, but that domain was seized after a few hours. They then tried dailystormer.ru, but Cloudflare then dumped them after a Quartz article accused Cloudflare of "Enabling Hate." Twitter then cancelled their status page. They've managed to get an onion address up, at dstormer6em3i4km.onion which points to the few places they haven't been kicked off of yet. With major chunks of important Internet infrastructure in the hands of giant private corporations, who can decline service to anyone at any time for any reason, unpopular speech can get stomped on without it technically being "censorship", which is regulation of speech by the government. Reading The Daily Stormer doesn't make anyone a Nazi, anymore than reading The Landover Baptist Church makes someone a Baptist. It will be interesting to see what happens with the site, because right now, they are kind of the Spotted Owl in the free speech forest. -- Mike Duvos m...@wolf359.net
Re: Chilling Dissent: The Just-Us Dept Fights DreamHost for Trump Protest site disruptj20.org Info
From: Razer
Lawfare. Links on-site:
>
> The Justice Department is fighting for information on all of the
> visitors to the website disruptj20.org, as well as log files on when
> and from where the visitors logged onto the site, what they looked at,
> and emails related to the site. The site at the center of the storm
> bills itself as a platform connecting Trump protesters and
> "support[ing] the massive and spontaneous eruption of resistance
> across the United States that’s happened since the election."
>
> At the New York Times, Charlie Savage reports that federal
> investigators have issued a search warrant to the internet hosting
> company DreamHost, which is now challenging the warrant as
> unconstitutionally broad—complying with it would allegedly require
> handing over 1.3 million visitor IP addresses and the information,
> emails and photos of thousands of users. Also see the Washington Post
> story last night from Ellen Nakashima.
[...]>
https://lawfareblog.com/justice-department-fights-web-hosting-company-trump-protester-information
When police or prosecutors are seeking a search warrant, the usual procedure is
for them to prepare a document, which is called a "warrant affidavit", which is
supposed to contain sufficient facts and argument to justify a judge granting
the warrant. This document is presented to a judge who considers it, and
either grants or denies the warrant.Warrant affidavits are usually secret
before a warrant is granted, although sometimes they may no longer be secret
after the warrant is served. The affidavit document is what you want to see to
find out why they wanted a warrant in the first place.
This is a discussion of the warrant:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/08/15/a-closer-look-at-dojs-warrant-to-collect-website-records/?utm_term=.c81c3288aec1
This seems to be the warrant itself:
https://www.dreamhost.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/DH-Search-Warrant.pdf
It refers to an affidavit, "D2-1645". When combined with "dreamhost, a top
google-search result ('D2-1645 dreamhost") is:
https://www.eff.org/files/2017/08/14/2017.07.28_motion_for_dreamhost_to_show_cause.pdf
This statement says that the affidavit is sealed (meaning secret).
"At the center of the requests is disruptj20.org, a website that organized
participants of political protests against the current United States
administration. While we have no insight into the affidavit for the search
warrant (those records are sealed), the DOJ has recently asked DreamHost to
provide allinformation available to us about this website, its owner, and, more
importantly, its visitors."
Jim "Perry Mason" Bell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnuJVWdQk9w
Chilling Dissent: The Just-Us Dept Fights DreamHost for Trump Protest site disruptj20.org Info
Lawfare. Links on-site: > > The Justice Department is fighting for information on all of the > visitors to the website disruptj20.org, as well as log files on when > and from where the visitors logged onto the site, what they looked at, > and emails related to the site. The site at the center of the storm > bills itself as a platform connecting Trump protesters and > "support[ing] the massive and spontaneous eruption of resistance > across the United States that’s happened since the election." > > At the New York Times, Charlie Savage reports that federal > investigators have issued a search warrant to the internet hosting > company DreamHost, which is now challenging the warrant as > unconstitutionally broad—complying with it would allegedly require > handing over 1.3 million visitor IP addresses and the information, > emails and photos of thousands of users. Also see the Washington Post > story last night from Ellen Nakashima. > > Dreamhost announced the fight yesterday in a blog post entitled "We > Fight for the Users." Here are the key documents: the search warrant; > the Justice Department's motion to show cause; and DreamHost LLC's > third-party response in opposition to the Department's motion. > > We'll be summarizing the issues in greater detail soon. https://lawfareblog.com/justice-department-fights-web-hosting-company-trump-protester-information
