How does major malware outbreaks affect antivirus share price?
How does major malware outbreaks affect antivirus share price? Define "major" as reported in popular media like national TV. My wild guess is major outbreaks systematically increase the share price by non-trivial amount no matter if the promised protection is real or not.
Re: What is consensus?
On 12/07/2017 08:12 PM, Douglas Lucas wrote: > Hi Edward, > > Consensus is agreement by means of votes. It's a hierarchy where those > who win the vote impose on those who lose the vote (although sometimes > the dissenters just exit altogether). > > One no-voting method of collaboration is stigmergy: > https://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/stigmergy-2/ > > See also: > https://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/a-societal-singularity/ If voting is involved, it's not consensus-based. There is checking for consensus, as g2s noted. And there is blocking. So one person can block consensus. However, there is social pressure to have persuasive arguments supporting blocks. Blocking for personal reasons will make you very unpopular. There's also the option to stand aside. It's somewhat like abstaining from a vote, when you have a conflict of interest. But you can also stand aside when you don't entirely agree, but don't want to stand in the way of progress. > On 12/07/2017 06:19 PM, g2s wrote: >> >> Original message >> From: Edward Low >> Date: 12/7/17 5:03 PM (GMT-08:00) >> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org >> Subject: What is consensus? >> >> There is a question I would like to send to the list and get some feedback. >> >> As far as I was told, consensus is a way to reach a decision without the >> need of voting, so there is no majority nor minority, no one can impose >> their ways even if they are majority so no lobby and no forcing. >> Clearly, education is needed for that, so everyone understands the need >> of giving up a little bit in order to make it work for the common project. >> >> Lately I've been seeing consensus described as voting system, with >> majorities and minorities. My english is short, so maybe there is a word >> to describe consensus as a no-voting system to reach a common solution? >> >> Thanks >> >> E. Low >> >> -- >> Edward Low >> edward...@riseup.net >> Libertalia (Madagascar) >> >> Consensus implies everyone agrees. Using OccupyWallStreet as example of >> how it fails when there isn't some sort of at least general agreement, >> the the BLOCK in the consensus system they used was based on Spanish >> anarchist unions who were in general avreement on a goal, and a block >> STOPPED the process until whatever issue the blockung party brought up >> was resolved. >> >> >> At Occupy there were so many political interests represented that the >> BLOCK, it was felt, was being used to disrupt, and it was modified to >> basically mean you were voting yourself out of the process unless you >> withdrew the block... >> >> Which turned the process into mob democracy where the largest faction >> won in spite of problems perceived by people blocking, and OFC, the >> largest factions were typically scumbag prog-libs. >> >> Rr >
Cryptos Take Action Against US Senate Bill S.1241
US Senate Bill S.1241 to Criminalize Concealed Ownership of Bitcoin, P2P Trading of Personal Amounts, Etc https://www.reddit.com/search?q=s.1241 https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7iey6q/us_senate_bill_s1241_to_criminalize_concealed/ https://hn.algolia.com/?query=s.1241 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15833440 https://www.bing.com/search?q=senate+s.1241 The entire cryptocurrency space is rightly against this one. And these slopes won't stop at just cryptocurrency, it's another whack eventually tilting back at crypto itself. Pick up the phone, write your mails, and join in the fray. Kill Bill.
What is consensus?
> Mirimir mirimir at wiseup.net > Fri Dec 8 09:04:06 PST 2017 > > voting is not consensus > You are incorrect, sir. Similar to 'consentire': 'con' - a variant of 'com' meaning 'with' 'sentire' - a variant of 'sēnsus' meaning 'to feel' Literally 'with sense' or 'in agreement'. To join in "agreement" is to express what is essentially a vote. Hence the term "Vote with your wallet", which I am sure many anon here do. Reminder: All art is political; everything is art. -anon
Re: What is consensus?
On 12/08/2017 07:27 AM, Temple OS User wrote: >> Mirimir mirimir at wiseup.net >> Fri Dec 8 09:04:06 PST 2017 >> > >> voting is not consensus >> > > You are incorrect, sir. And you're full of shit, sir ;) Ask any Quaker, for example. > Similar to 'consentire': > 'con' - a variant of 'com' meaning 'with' > 'sentire' - a variant of 'sēnsus' meaning 'to feel' > > Literally 'with sense' or 'in agreement'. > > To join in "agreement" is to express what is essentially a vote. Hence > the term "Vote with your wallet", which I am sure many anon here do. > > Reminder: > All art is political; everything is art. > -anon >
Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
On 12/08/2017 07:29 AM, Temple OS User wrote: >> g2s g2s at wiseup.net >> Thu Dec 7 12:05:26 PST 2017 >> > >> bitcoin network uses electricity >> In 18 months, we'll all be dead. >> "muh planet" >> > > You faggot. Ah, I see. Another fucking Zenaan or Juan clone. Bye. > Using electricity isn't going to "destroy" the planet. Do you even know > what energy is? Or how the flat earth spins? > > [pic related] >
Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
In #meetoo fashion the flippening is going to happen this week when drudge news shows a bitcoin core developer get accused of grabbing an interns breast, and everyone dumps BTC. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:45 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:12:41 -0800 > Steven Schear wrote: > > > > Bitcoin Cash is up to 8 times more energy efficient and Bitcoin > > Unlimited blockchains could be >> efficient yet. > > > So Steve you were talking about some sort of "flipping" or > something a while back? How's that going? > > right now bitcoin is at $18000* while bcash is $1300 > > > *stupid bubble of course. > > > -- Creator of the Warrant Canary and the Street Performer Protocol. Wi-Fi standard spec. creation participant and co-developer of eCache. Director at MojoNation and Cylink. Founding member of IFCA and GNU Radio. Currently, VP of BusinessTechnology at Stashcrypto.com
Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
On 12/08/2017 01:39 PM, Mirimir wrote: > On 12/08/2017 07:29 AM, Temple OS User wrote: >>> g2s g2s at wiseup.net >>> Thu Dec 7 12:05:26 PST 2017 >>> >> >>> bitcoin network uses electricity >>> In 18 months, we'll all be dead. >>> "muh planet" >>> >> >> You faggot. > > Ah, I see. Another fucking Zenaan or Juan clone. Bye. > >> Using electricity isn't going to "destroy" the planet. Do you even know >> what energy is? Or how the flat earth spins? >> >> [pic related] >> > Aren't we getting near the end of the blockchain ?
Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
Original message From: Steven Schear Date: 12/8/17 10:49 AM (GMT-08:00) To: juan Cc: cypherpunks Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet In #meetoo fashion the flippening is going to happen this week when drudge news shows a bitcoin core developer get accused of grabbing an interns breast, and everyone dumps BTC. +1. Rr On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:45 PM, juan wrote: On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:12:41 -0800 Steven Schear wrote: > Bitcoin Cash is up to 8 times more energy efficient and Bitcoin > Unlimited blockchains could be >> efficient yet. So Steve you were talking about some sort of "flipping" or something a while back? How's that going? right now bitcoin is at $18000* while bcash is $1300 *stupid bubble of course. -- Creator of the Warrant Canary and the Street Performer Protocol. Wi-Fi standard spec. creation participant and co-developer of eCache. Director at MojoNation and Cylink. Founding member of IFCA and GNU Radio. Currently, VP of BusinessTechnology at Stashcrypto.com
Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
Ps. https://twitter.com/vexmark/status/938780120990568448 Original message From: g2s Date: 12/8/17 3:12 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Cc: cypherpunks Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet Original message From: Steven Schear Date: 12/8/17 10:49 AM (GMT-08:00) To: juan Cc: cypherpunks Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet In #meetoo fashion the flippening is going to happen this week when drudge news shows a bitcoin core developer get accused of grabbing an interns breast, and everyone dumps BTC. +1. Rr On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:45 PM, juan wrote: On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:12:41 -0800 Steven Schear wrote: > Bitcoin Cash is up to 8 times more energy efficient and Bitcoin > Unlimited blockchains could be >> efficient yet. So Steve you were talking about some sort of "flipping" or something a while back? How's that going? right now bitcoin is at $18000* while bcash is $1300 *stupid bubble of course. -- Creator of the Warrant Canary and the Street Performer Protocol. Wi-Fi standard spec. creation participant and co-developer of eCache. Director at MojoNation and Cylink. Founding member of IFCA and GNU Radio. Currently, VP of BusinessTechnology at Stashcrypto.com
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Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
The mapping between Bitcoin and energy is missing the point, from the point of view of understanding the system. The correct mapping is between Bitcoin and the *price* of energy. If electricity were 10 times as expensive, Bitcoin mining use of electric power would drop by a factor of 10 (for a given BTC price). The point of spending money on mining is to be competitive. The absolute amount of power is irrelevant. This means that if governments raised the price of electricity, or resources used for generating it, then BTC would never be a problem. Not trivial to do, admittedly, but the point here is to understand the system. With things like automobiles and air-conditioners, raising electricity prices would improve the situation (regarding what economists call "externalities"), but degrade the user experience. Well, raising prices would improve the external impact of Bitcoin, but would have no effect on the correct functioning of the Bitcoin model. Whereas an automobile still uses the same amount of fuel to get you from A to B, when you raise the price of fuel, Bitcoin instantly drops the amount of fuel it uses, but continues to function just as well. Interestingly, environmentalists do not so much blame the automobile and the drivers as much as governments for allowing the tolerance of them, and rightly so. They say that we need fuel prices and taxes that reflect the impact on the environment, and we need support for alternative energy sources, etc. So why blame poor old Bitcoin? Mike
[RUS] those crazy Russkies - in flight cargo bay inspection ftw
Aeroplane porn like you'll rarely ever see - straight from those crazy conservatives masquerading as a nation - perhaps it was Putin himself flying that Sukoi? Next up: America lodges official complaint to the World that Russia is utterly outclassing them in every f*cking way imaginable... (YouTube vid is under 6 MB, so won't knock yourself out...) ** VIDEO: Russian Su-30 Fighter Trails Cargo Plane Over Syria. Crazy Footage https://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413cb3652f&id=d41d112487&e=5110f4b440 by RT on Thu, Dec 7, 2017 A Russian fighter jet pilot has given a whole new meaning to ‘flight inspection.’ A video apparently shot in Syria shows a Su-30SM peeking inside a military transport plane just after an airdrop, flying mere meters from the open ramp.
[RUS] Who split Germany after WW2?
Most us propagandized flunkies in the inglorious West don't actually know our history. For those who appreciate a quick catch up here and there, read it and empathize: http://russiafeed.com/divided-germany-cold-war-washington-moscow/ Who divided Germany during the Cold War – Washington or Moscow? The Soviet proposal for a neutral, united Germany was refused by the West, in order to create their own puppet state by Nikolay Starikov December 8, 2017, 12:17 pm
Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
Original message From: Michael Nelson Date: 12/8/17 6:22 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet > The mapping between Bitcoin and energy is missing the point... Not if the point is a dead planet. That's ALL I care about. Cars, which you mention, are another much thornier issue because they've been made a social necessity and that will take time to undo. As with another not often acknowledged source of carbon based pollution due to humans... The factories that make damn near everything consumer industrial societies have. But unlike those things, bitcoin generates huge amounts of pollution due to its electric demands, and, bluntly, it isn't necessary in any way shape or form. Rr
Re: [WAR] Yugoslavia - Wrongly Accused: The Absolution of Slobodan Milošević (by the ICT)
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 07:44:25AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > War and peace, Western style. Tribal unity must not be allowed. > > http://russia-insider.com/en/bosnian-serbs-are-heading-referendum-has-west-screeching-moscow-backing-it-here-why/ri16646 And again, second chamber trial concludes: http://russia-insider.com/en/natos-hague-inquisition-exonerates-slobodan-milosevic-again/ri21867
Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 7:31 PM, g2s wrote: > > Original message > From: Michael Nelson > Date: 12/8/17 6:22 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org > Subject: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet > >> The mapping between Bitcoin and energy is missing the point... > > Not if the point is a dead planet. > > That's ALL I care about. Cars, which you mention, are another much thornier > issue because they've been made a social necessity and that will take time > to undo. As with another not often acknowledged source of carbon based > pollution due to humans... The factories that make damn near everything > consumer industrial societies have. > > But unlike those things, bitcoin generates huge amounts of pollution due to > its electric demands, and, bluntly, it isn't necessary in any way shape or > form. Neither are coffee, tea, chocolate, sugar, sex and any number of other things that offend the sensibilities of the overly sensitive, and they aren't likely to disappear either... Kurt
