Re: hey grarpamp, got a quote from your friend perry metzeer.
Supposed quotes should be linked, else perhaps viewed as troll manure. Some lists have been shown to be run by hypocrites. Others have been shown to be abused by assholes and etc. Many more are run in the ether, perhaps some even by residents here. Keep digging, soon you will reach Russia or some other fucked up land.
From sand to silicon chips, openly
> Where's the profit motive to develop things that can be sold on basis of > value when the IP value is destroyed using an open architecture model? > > It's a lot of work to develop a CPU design and it costs a lot of money (well > north of $50M). Who pays for that when the value is destroyed by opening up > the design so anyone can copy it? > > Seems very naïve relative to how the semiconductor investment cycle works. Asking on list would probably yield some of what you seek.
Re: hey grarpamp, got a quote from your friend perry metzeer.
On Fri, 18 May 2018 03:04:58 -0400 grarpamp wrote: > Supposed quotes should be linked, else perhaps viewed as troll manure. your wish is my command https://github.com/Famicoman/cypherpunks-mailing-list-archives/blob/master/cryptome.org/cyp-1993.txt --- From: "Perry E. Metzger" Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 13:01:37 PDT To: cypherpu...@toad.com Subject: Re: Complete ignorance of any sort of reality on May's part (was We are In-Reply-To: <9307061947.aa17...@netcom.netcom.com> Message-ID: <9307062001.aa10...@snark.shearson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain J. Eric Townsend says: > - Dworkin has never called for the banning of porn. I've read most of > her books, and she even goes out of her way to say she's not calling > for any sort of censorship. She *does* push for 'victim > compenstation'-style legislation. This is silly. Its like saying "I'm not in favor of banning guns -- but I want victims to be able to sue the gun manufacturers for negligence". Dworkin is a fascist in feminist clothing -- for all intents and purposes she believes that any act of heterosexual sex is on some level rape. She's nuts. > Tired of white het male computer geeks talking nonsense about anyone > who threatens their place in the power structure, This white male het computer geek marches in the Gay Pride Parade every year. (Well, not this year -- I was sick. Mea culpa.) He also thinks that Andrea Dworkin is about as anti-censorship as Rev. Wildmon. I don't give a shit about the power structure -- I just think that anyone telling me what I can and cannot see, what I can and cannot write, and what I can and cannot sell, is my enemy. Perry > Some lists have been shown to be run by hypocrites. > Others have been shown to be abused by assholes and etc. > Many more are run in the ether, perhaps some even by residents here. > Keep digging, soon you will reach Russia or some other fucked up land.
[MINISTRY] brutal - US Dept of State, Vyshinsky, "journalism awards", Vovan & Lexus
USA “journalism” is cutting new territory these days, great stuff, brutal: https://sputniknews.com/society/201805181064591515-blow-bridge-journalist-pranked/ Enjoy, Such a wonderful wedding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52oQRpryzxc
Re: From sand to silicon chips, openly
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 03:15:16AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > > Where's the profit motive to develop things that can be sold on basis of > > value when the IP value is destroyed using an open architecture model? > > > > It's a lot of work to develop a CPU design and it costs a lot of money > > (well north of $50M). Who pays for that when the value is destroyed by > > opening up the design so anyone can copy it? > > > > Seems very naïve relative to how the semiconductor investment cycle works. There is at least some food for thought in comparison to the GNU project and the Linux kernel. 20 years ago it was of course “why would programmers give away their "intellectual property"?” which many at the time found a genuinely perplexing question - unfathomable if you will. Today, that story has just slightly/subtly, changed - Linux Everywhere and free/ libre/ open source software is basically a pre-requisite for any new venture or project. But why? - Why, as a programmer, would you give up your sovereignty/ right to make use of your own work in the future (either with another company, or in your own projects)? - Why would a company not take advantage of the $billions worth of free software "off the shelf" (and why would you spend millions reinventing all that NIH stuff)? - Why would you risk a proprietary startup when you know that the first guy to launch a FLOSS equivalent will in relatively short order (if you project/product is successful) overtake you in technical capability, on a relentless march? - If Microsoft couldn't successfully hold out against the FLOSS tide, what makes you think your puny thing will be able to? … and many similar besides. Create your world,
Re: [MINISTRY] brutal - US Dept of State, Vyshinsky, "journalism awards", Vovan & Lexus
hi Zeenan - have you seen sea sea :-( Original Message On May 18, 2018, 4:14 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > USA “journalism” is cutting new territory these days, great stuff, > brutal: > https://sputniknews.com/society/201805181064591515-blow-bridge-journalist-pranked/ > > Enjoy, > > Such a wonderful wedding: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52oQRpryzxc
