God Mode Backdoors, AP Crowdfund vs Wikileaks Models

[grarpamp]

> https://www.tomshardware.com/news/x86-hidden-god-mode,37582.html
>
> Some x86 CPUs have hidden backdoors that let you seize
> root by sending a command to an undocumented RISC core that manages
> the main CPU, security researcher Christopher Domas told the Black Hat
> conference here Thursday (Aug. 9).

> "This is really ring -4," he said. "It's a secret, co-located core
> buried alongside the x86 chip. It has unrestricted access to the x86."

> "These black boxes that we're trusting are things that we have no way
> to look into," he said. "These backdoors probably exist elsewhere."

> Mode enabled by default. You can reach it from userland. Antivirus
> software, ASLR and all the other security mitigations are useless."

> https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/rosenbridge.


On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Henry Baker  wrote:
> Why do we even bother encrypting, when our chips are so corrupt?

> This article strengthens my belief that *all* of our current chips
> have hidden backdoors thanks to Uncle Sam.  No wonder China wants
> to design & build their own chips!


Anyone who thinks Intel CPU's don't have backdoors... is fucking stupid.
AMD... same, yet perhaps a slightly lesser form of corporate insidiousness.
Same for all cell phone CPUs and baseband processors.
Even "open" ARM and "closed" Apple cores are fully questionable.
Cisco products... fuck all backdoored.
Same for every Cable / DSL / Fiber / WiFi Modem / Router / Point.
IBM Power9... yep, gonna be some secrets in there too.

Anything with any sort of CPU running any sort of OS... backdoored.
Doesn't matter where or who it comes from or who it's made for...
China... backdoored.
Boeing... backdoored.

Only interesting thing is who has the keys.

As said before, you must demand and create...

#OpenFabs , #OpenHW , #OpenSW , #OpenDev , #OpenBiz

You have zero trust until those happen. ZERO.


That 20 key dimestore calculator on your desk isn't backdoored.
If you're lucky.


Publishing the backdoors in Intel's products, and
all the others... makes a fine AP crowdfund target.
Because the Wikileaks model so far either didn't get
or hasn't published the scoop.

Perhaps it is no longer appropriate for me to discuss computer vulnerabilities

[Ryan Carboni]

But I should say that  I suspect the reason for the complex three drug
protocol in lethal injection is so that the latter two injections could be
replaced by saline.

One can only speculate.

Re: Cody Wilson

[Cari Machet]

Not kinda entertaining ... totally entertaining

On 23:58, Tue, Aug 14, 2018 juan  wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 08:17:42 -0300
> Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:
>
> > Juan, my dear,
> >
> > Cody's e-mail is "crw at defdist dot org".
>
>
> Thanks =) - I didn't mean to write to him (and I won't) - I was
> just browsing and I saw that he uses cloudflare, which is
> kinda...entertaining.
>
>
>
> >
> > You can complain personally about all the JavaScript stuff and security,
> > but do _not_ annoy the guy being a troll, please.
> >
>

cypher punks bow - the literal (tech + social) Great Charlottesville Hack of 2018"

[Zenaan Harkness]

One awesome hack -  both tech and social enginerring, so
kudos Weev - a serious badass political (ultimately) hack!



The Great Charlottesville Hack of 2018: A Message to
the People of Charlottesville
https://dailystormer.name/the-great-charlottesville-hack-of-2018-a-message-to-the-people-of-charlottesville/

Re: “Free speech is not just another value. It's the foundation of Western civilization.” - Dr Peterson

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 06:01:31PM -0300, Juan wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 17:36:24 +1000
> Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 03:39:49AM -0300, Juan wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > “Free speech is not just another value. It's the foundation of Western 
> > > > civilization.” - Dr Peterson
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   hey Zen why do ypu keep promoting such a scumbag as peterson?
> > >   Don't you understand that he's a fraud? You should really work on
> > >   your critical thinking skills instead of being a
> > >   putin-dailystormer-peterson echo chamber. 
> > 
> > Happy to discuss a position, but generic handwaving doesn't move the
> > conversation usefully, as far as I can tell.
> 
> 
>   I gave you more than a few examples showing what kind of piece of shit 
> peterson is in a private message and you ignored them. So don't take me for 
> an idiot. 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > That which is useful to some, may not be useful to you/ others. 
> 
>   LMAO. Useful...FOR WHAT. If you are a christian fascist and apologist 
> of western fascism then scumbag peterson is 'useful'. So I guess that is what 
> you are. 


A basis for meaning in life is a decent start for a lot of people.
Nihilism runs rife in the "modern" hedonistic West, and as far as I
can tell leads to depression, apathy and some very dark places.

Re: “Free speech is not just another value. It's the foundation of Western civilization.” - Dr Peterson

[juan]

On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 17:36:24 +1000
Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 03:39:49AM -0300, Juan wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > “Free speech is not just another value. It's the foundation of Western 
> > > civilization.” - Dr Peterson
> > 
> > 
> > hey Zen why do ypu keep promoting such a scumbag as peterson?
> > Don't you understand that he's a fraud? You should really work on
> > your critical thinking skills instead of being a
> > putin-dailystormer-peterson echo chamber. 
> 
> Happy to discuss a position, but generic handwaving doesn't move the
> conversation usefully, as far as I can tell.


I gave you more than a few examples showing what kind of piece of shit 
peterson is in a private message and you ignored them. So don't take me for an 
idiot. 



> 
> That which is useful to some, may not be useful to you/ others. 

LMAO. Useful...FOR WHAT. If you are a christian fascist and apologist 
of western fascism then scumbag peterson is 'useful'. So I guess that is what 
you are. 

Re: Cody Wilson

[juan]

On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 08:17:42 -0300
Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:

> Juan, my dear,
> 
> Cody's e-mail is "crw at defdist dot org".


Thanks =) - I didn't mean to write to him (and I won't) - I was just 
browsing and I saw that he uses cloudflare, which is kinda...entertaining. 



> 
> You can complain personally about all the JavaScript stuff and security,
> but do _not_ annoy the guy being a troll, please.
> 

Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown

[John Newman]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 01:32:09PM -0700, Razer wrote:
> 
> On 08/14/2018 12:23 PM, jim bell wrote:
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> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> > > Drawing a blank?
> >
> > >No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it  -
> >
> > >https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html
> >
> >
> >
> > In that, I saw:  "I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian
> > was sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the
> > ambassador to Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the
> > outcome of the election..."
> > I do recall that prior to the 2016 election, many people were
> > criticizing Trump for failing to state that he would accept the result
> > of the election.
> > Jim Bell
> >
> >
> 
> Odd. The message IS visible onsite at riseup, but the emails show a
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> Subject: Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
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> > Drawing a blank?
> 
> No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it  -=20
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> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html
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Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown

[Razer]

On 08/14/2018 12:23 PM, jim bell wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 11:44:31 AM PDT, John Newman
>  wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> > Drawing a blank?
>
> >No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it  -
>
> >https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html
>
>
>
> In that, I saw:  "I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian
> was sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the
> ambassador to Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the
> outcome of the election..."
> I do recall that prior to the 2016 election, many people were
> criticizing Trump for failing to state that he would accept the result
> of the election.
> Jim Bell
>
>

Odd. The message IS visible onsite at riseup, but the emails show a
blank in thunderbird. Only John's... The text DOES appear if I View
Message Source.

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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:44:06 -0400

From: John Newman 

To: Razer 

Cc: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org

Subject: Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown

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On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote:

> Drawing a blank?

No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it  -=20

https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html

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> On 08/14/2018 07:19 AM, John Newman wrote:

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Rr

Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown

[Razer]

On 08/14/2018 12:23 PM, jim bell wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 11:44:31 AM PDT, John Newman
>  wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> > Drawing a blank?
>
> >No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it  -
>
> >https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html

OK... In re "And, unlike Julian, he did like ~4years in an actual
federal prison.."

That's because he was (and perhaps is again) a stupid junkie. He
actually threatened a fed investigating him. His EGO took him down. Have
I mentioned if there's ONE DEFINING TRAIT of a Junkie, it's their stupid
fucking egos. I'm SURE I've brought that up before.

Rr


>
>
>
> In that, I saw:  "I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian
> was sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the
> ambassador to Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the
> outcome of the election..."
> I do recall that prior to the 2016 election, many people were
> criticizing Trump for failing to state that he would accept the result
> of the election.
> Jim Bell
>
>

Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown

[Razer]

For some reason John's emails showed up blank. Even in plaintext mode.
No attachments.

This one too. "Re: Next Year's Federal Military budget over $700
billion. Is that a problem?"

Rr


On 08/14/2018 12:23 PM, jim bell wrote:
>  On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 11:44:31 AM PDT, John Newman  
> wrote:
>  
>  
>  On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote:
>> Drawing a blank?
>> No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it  - 
>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html
>
> In that, I saw:  "I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian was 
> sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the ambassador to 
> Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the outcome of the 
> election..."
> I do recall that prior to the 2016 election, many people were criticizing 
> Trump for failing to state that he would accept the result of the election. 
>  Jim Bell
>
>
>
>   

Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown

[jim bell]

 On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 11:44:31 AM PDT, John Newman  
wrote:
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> Drawing a blank?

>No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it  - 

>https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html


In that, I saw:  "I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian was 
sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the ambassador to 
Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the outcome of the election..."
I do recall that prior to the 2016 election, many people were criticizing Trump 
for failing to state that he would accept the result of the election. 
 Jim Bell



  

Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown

[John Newman]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> Drawing a blank?

No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it  - 

https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html


> 
> 
> On 08/14/2018 07:19 AM, John Newman wrote:
> 

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Re: Next Year's Federal Military budget over $700 billion. Is that a problem?

[John Newman]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 04:28:32PM +, jim bell wrote:
> The folllowing article is from Reason Magazine.  Next year's Federal budget 
> will include over $700 billion in military spending.  
> I have claimed that my AP idea will essentially eliminate military spending, 
> around the world.  I've said this for over 23 years.  Isn't this a sufficient 
> motivation to adopt AP?  Yet, there are still people who say that AP won't, 
> or can't, be implemented.
> Isn't such wasteful spending a powerful motivation to cease with the current 
> system, and proceed with a system that will eliminate wars, military 
> spending, and government spending?
> Governments in the 20th century killed over 250 million people.  Is that 
> acceptable
>                        Jim Bell
> 

I think one of the primary problems with AP is the assumption that
most Americans, or even "enough" Americans, have any interest in
contributing to assassination markets... In my experience, most
people don't give a fuck. They want to be able to go to work, then
come home and watch tv and maybe fuck their wife or beat their kids
or whatever.

I'm doubtful there are enough people who give a shit to ever make
it work. If there were some horrible crisis that it seemed the
current government was badly mismanaging - well, even then, I find
it hard to see. People just don't give a shit, or enough of a shit.
Those that organize on the political level probably *cringe* at the
idea of participating in AP - although they don't give a fuck about
installing government after government that willfully starts wars,
locks people up, kills extrajudicially, runs pointless (and completely
counter-productive) bullshit like the "war on drugs", etc, etc...
I'm cynical about overcoming all the indifference and hypocrisy that 
would be needed to ever make this work (and this is all assuming there
was a perfect technical solution, which as yet there isnt).


> >
http://reason.com/blog/2018/08/13/trump-signs-82-billion-spending-boost-fo
>
> 
> "President Donald Trump on Monday signed a military budget boosting the 
> Pentagon's spending by $82 billion in the next year—a spending increase that 
> dwarfs the entire military budgets of most other nations on Earth. Russia, 
> for example, will spend an estimated $61 billion on its military this year. 
> Total.
> 
> With the increased spending included in this year's National Defense 
> Authorization Act (NDAA), the Pentagon will get to spend more than $700 
> billion next year. The budget hike was a priority for Trump and was approved 
> by Congress as part of a March spending deal that saw spending on both 
> defense and domestic programs hiked by about $165 billion—smashing through 
> Obama-era spending caps.
> 
> This year's NDAA is "the most significant increase in our military and our 
> war-fighters in modern history," Trump said. "It was not very hard. I went to 
> Congress, I said, 'Let's do it, we gotta do it.'"
> 
> Indeed, it was not very hard. Democrats are quick to condemn nearly 
> everything Trump proposes and many Republicans are less than enamored with 
> the current occupant of the White House, but partisan animosity vanishes when 
> defense spending comes up. The final House vote on the NDAA—technically known 
> as the "John S. McCain National Defense Authorization Act" because you 
> wouldn't vote against something named after an American hero, right?—was 
> 359-54, while the final Senate roll call was 87-10, with only two Republican 
> senators opposing the bill and three declining to cast votes.
> 
> The spending increase will allow the Pentagon to hire another 4,000 active 
> duty soldiers, Trump said, and would help replace aging tanks, planes, and 
> ships with "the most advanced and lethal technology ever developed."
> 
> "Hopefully, we'll be so strong that we'll never have to use it," Trump said. 
> "But if we ever did, nobody has a chance."
> 
> Trump also used the occasion to plug his recent call for the creation of a 
> Space Force, which would be the sixth branch of the U.S. military. A Space 
> Force is necessary, Trump said, to counter aggression from other countries in 
> the final frontier. "I've seen things that you don't even want to see," Trump 
> said, apparently referencing advancements in space technology being developed 
> by other countries.
> 
> There is no funding included in this NDAA for the Space Force, but the 
> administration plans to have the new branch up and running by 2020—and it's 
> not going to be cheap.
> 
> No worries, Trump seemed to say on Monday, as he promised more spending 
> increases to come—reversing what he said was years of "depleted" spending on 
> the Pentagon.
> 
> But as I noted in June when the NDAA cleared the Senate: the Pentagon's 
> biggest problem isn't a shortage of funding, but misuse of the money that it 
> already receives.
> 
> Unfortunately, we don't know much about that because the Pentagon has still 
> not been subjected to a full scale

Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown

[Razer]

Drawing a blank?


On 08/14/2018 07:19 AM, John Newman wrote:

Re: Peak-a-bo

[Steven Schear]

 DF reader Brian Ashe sent this, correctly pointing out that it pretty much
nails Google’s approach to turning off location tracking
.

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/08/13/douglas-adams-plans

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Steve Kinney  wrote:

>
>
> On 08/13/2018 07:41 PM, Steven Schear wrote:
> > https://apnews.com/828aefab64d4411bac257a07c1af0e
> cb/AP-Exclusive:-Google-tracks-your-movements,-like-it-or-not
>
> Google tracks my movements?  Not yet, anyway.
>
> The cell tower networks do track my movements except when I leave my
> $25.00 mobile phone behind or pull its battery.  But Google?  Not so
> much.  Every so often they know when I was "at home" because I
> voluntarily accessed one of their server farms.  Otherwise not.
>
> Google Analytics and the ubiquitous "G+" links on a vast array of
> websites, do not track my web browsing - one has uBlock Legacy and
> NoScript to attend to that, respectively blocking all outbound requests
> to blacklisted domains, and all outbound requests for Javascript except
> where and as whitelisted.
>
> The few occasions when Google does 'see' me on the networks, result from
> voluntarily revealing my existence when accessing YouTube videos, and
> occasional contact with a GMail account (via Thunderbird, not a web
> browser) which I use as a spam trap and offsite backup server for
> encrypted credentials logs and the like.
>
> :o)
>
>
>
>
>
>

Next Year's Federal Military budget over $700 billion. Is that a problem?

[jim bell]

The folllowing article is from Reason Magazine.  Next year's Federal budget 
will include over $700 billion in military spending.  
I have claimed that my AP idea will essentially eliminate military spending, 
around the world.  I've said this for over 23 years.  Isn't this a sufficient 
motivation to adopt AP?  Yet, there are still people who say that AP won't, or 
can't, be implemented.
Isn't such wasteful spending a powerful motivation to cease with the current 
system, and proceed with a system that will eliminate wars, military spending, 
and government spending?
Governments in the 20th century killed over 250 million people.  Is that 
acceptable
                       Jim Bell


http://reason.com/blog/2018/08/13/trump-signs-82-billion-spending-boost-fo


"President Donald Trump on Monday signed a military budget boosting the 
Pentagon's spending by $82 billion in the next year—a spending increase that 
dwarfs the entire military budgets of most other nations on Earth. Russia, for 
example, will spend an estimated $61 billion on its military this year. Total.

With the increased spending included in this year's National Defense 
Authorization Act (NDAA), the Pentagon will get to spend more than $700 billion 
next year. The budget hike was a priority for Trump and was approved by 
Congress as part of a March spending deal that saw spending on both defense and 
domestic programs hiked by about $165 billion—smashing through Obama-era 
spending caps.

This year's NDAA is "the most significant increase in our military and our 
war-fighters in modern history," Trump said. "It was not very hard. I went to 
Congress, I said, 'Let's do it, we gotta do it.'"

Indeed, it was not very hard. Democrats are quick to condemn nearly everything 
Trump proposes and many Republicans are less than enamored with the current 
occupant of the White House, but partisan animosity vanishes when defense 
spending comes up. The final House vote on the NDAA—technically known as the 
"John S. McCain National Defense Authorization Act" because you wouldn't vote 
against something named after an American hero, right?—was 359-54, while the 
final Senate roll call was 87-10, with only two Republican senators opposing 
the bill and three declining to cast votes.

The spending increase will allow the Pentagon to hire another 4,000 active duty 
soldiers, Trump said, and would help replace aging tanks, planes, and ships 
with "the most advanced and lethal technology ever developed."

"Hopefully, we'll be so strong that we'll never have to use it," Trump said. 
"But if we ever did, nobody has a chance."

Trump also used the occasion to plug his recent call for the creation of a 
Space Force, which would be the sixth branch of the U.S. military. A Space 
Force is necessary, Trump said, to counter aggression from other countries in 
the final frontier. "I've seen things that you don't even want to see," Trump 
said, apparently referencing advancements in space technology being developed 
by other countries.

There is no funding included in this NDAA for the Space Force, but the 
administration plans to have the new branch up and running by 2020—and it's not 
going to be cheap.

No worries, Trump seemed to say on Monday, as he promised more spending 
increases to come—reversing what he said was years of "depleted" spending on 
the Pentagon.

But as I noted in June when the NDAA cleared the Senate: the Pentagon's biggest 
problem isn't a shortage of funding, but misuse of the money that it already 
receives.

Unfortunately, we don't know much about that because the Pentagon has still not 
been subjected to a full scale audit, despite the fact that all federal 
agencies and departments were ordered to undergo mandatory audits in 1990. A 
preliminary audit of just one office within the Pentagon found that more than 
$800 million could not be accounted for. Auditors said the Pentagon's Defense 
Logistics Agency (DLA)—described as "the military's Walmart" because it's 
responsible for processing supplies and equipment—has financial management "so 
weak that its leaders and oversight bodies have no reliable way to track the 
huge sums it's responsible for."

Whether it's investing in bomb-sniffing elephants, paying $8,000 for something 
that should cost $50, or shelling out for the famous $640 toilet seat, there's 
no shortage of absurd waste in the Pentagon. A Reuters probe in 2013 found 
"$8.5 trillion in taxpayer money doled out to the Pentagon since 1996 … has 
never been accounted for. That sum exceeds the value of China's economic output 
[for 2012]."

The Pentagon doesn't need more money, but until politicans from at least one 
party show a willingness to turn off the tap, there is no incentive for the 
Department of Defense to change its culture of waste and tradition of opacity.

Re: Peak-a-bo

[John Newman]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:47:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 8:35 PM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 08/13/2018 07:41 PM, Steven Schear wrote:
> >> https://apnews.com/828aefab64d4411bac257a07c1af0ecb/AP-Exclusive:-Google-tracks-your-movements,-like-it-or-not
> >
> > Google tracks my movements?  Not yet, anyway.
> >
> > The cell tower networks do track my movements
> 
> And dump them straight into your government's databases.
> 
> > except when I leave my
> > $25.00 mobile phone behind or pull its battery.  But Google?  Not so
> > much.  Every so often they know when I was "at home" because I
> > voluntarily accessed one of their server farms.  Otherwise not.
> > Google Analytics and the ubiquitous "G+" links on a vast array of
> > websites, do not track my web browsing - one has uBlock Legacy and
> > NoScript to attend to that, respectively blocking all outbound requests
> > to blacklisted domains, and all outbound requests for Javascript except
> > where and as whitelisted.
> >
> > The few occasions when Google does 'see' me on the networks, result from
> > voluntarily revealing my existence when accessing YouTube videos, and
> > occasional contact with a GMail account (via Thunderbird, not a web
> > browser) which I use as a spam trap and offsite backup server for
> > encrypted credentials logs and the like.
> >
> > :o)
> 
> Generally beware web bugs, supercookies, TLS session metadata.

I only browse the web using links, started via torsocks, after 
first chaining through a few VPNs, all done via disposable 1-use 
SOC computer which I buy in bundles of ...  

OK, just kidding. My opsec is poor compared to Steve's :)  

If I really need something secure I'll boot up tails, after telling the
router in front of tails to connect to a VPN (since VPN config within
tails itself does not seem to be supported - unless things have
changed).



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Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown

[John Newman]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:33:08AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> 
>  Original message From: Zenaan Harkness  
> Date: 8/13/18  7:29 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: 
> Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown 
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:14:35AM -0400, John Newman wrote:
> > https://www.thedailybeast.com/julian-assange-went-after-a-former-ally-it-backfired-epically
> 
> > On cue. What say you about this, John Newman?
> 
> Barrett Brown is a big-headed egotistical schmuck who alienates people. 
> Julian Assange has an ego, but he knows how to check it, work with others, 
> and get things done. Assange has allies. Brown had cohorts(acquaintances) and 
> cronies. He's declined dramatically since ProjectPM. His writings on 
> Pursuance read like a public bathroom screed 
> .
> Rr

Yeah, I don't know much about Barrett, except some of his writings are
fairly amusing. And, unlike Julian, he did like ~4years in an actual
federal prison.. Maybe it's just me, but I'd much rather sit in an embassy
in London with visitors and real food and real internet (etc) than sit
in a Federal prison in the US. This is not to take away from Julians
plight, which is dire, and bogus, and fucked up... 

I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian was sending to Trump Jr
over twitter - asking to be made the ambassador to Australia, telling
him to be prepared to dispute the outcome of the election, basically all
sorts of shit that falls completely outside the idea of "transparency",
which so thickly permeates the wikileaks mission statement. Again - not
to take away from all the great shit they've done... its just a bit
ugly.

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Re: US: Torture Spying War Walls Prisons IDs Surveillance Censorship Tariffs Money Politics Murder and... Collapse

[John Newman]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 01:53:04AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/foia-intelligence-torture-archive/2018-08-10/gina-haspel-cia-torture-cables-declassified
> 
> https://www.rt.com/business/435839-kim-dotcom-shift-gold-dollar/
> https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1027408426446422017
> https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_clock
> 
> 20 years of bullshit.
> History tells what happens when countries descend
> into such general all areas depravity, there's no way out.
> When this one pops it's gonna be big and fast.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmy0N6kP3Qk
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWCEtOlouUU

It was another 7 years, after Kristallnact, before the Germans lost
WW2.  Although I don't think this is a good comparison in terms of
what is actually going to happen short term, ethically & morally
the US is right there with the fucking revanchist fascists that
destroyed Germany in the insane effort to build a 1000 year third
reich.

Ginal Haskel (and all her goddamn co-conspirators in the CIA and
other parts of the US terrorist forces) should be in jail, not
leading the terrorist agency that spawned her... although, I guess
she is a good fit for such an agency :P

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an emergent basis for ethics (Jaak Panksepp, Jordan Peterson)

[Zenaan Harkness]

Perhaps this is an easier to digest approach:

Jaak Panksepp studied rats:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaak_Panksepp

 Why do rats laugh? Interview with Jaak Panksepp...
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ICY6-7hJo

He not only discovered that rats laugh and giggle (just in
frequencies above what we humans can normally hear), he discovered
that in repeated play-bouts, rats enjoy "rough and tumble" playing
(just like human children, and dogs).

Further, rather than stop after one round of playing and evidencing
that larger rats dominate smaller rats, he studied specific pairs of
rats over repeated play bouts (amongst other things).

A larger rat will always show its physical prowess by dominating a
smaller rat, in the first (and perhaps first few) play bouts, but
these rats enjoy playing, and if a larger rat of the studied pair
does not allow the smaller of the pair in a play bout to "win" at
least 30% of the time, the smaller rat will not continue to play with
the larger rat - it won't do that crouching type of invitation to
play, that dogs and some humans also do when they want to play rough
and tumble.

So to get maximum play time (which these rats will hammer away on a
button in order to obtain - they really do like playing rough and
tumble with each other), larger rats must allow smaller rats to win
at least 30% of the time, and, they generally do learn to do this.

So the ethic here is not "winning a play bout" but how to "win the
most across all play bouts, or, how to get more play time" which
requires some level of treating your play partners (or "opponents")
fairly.


Thus, emergent ethics.


Sam Harris and "scientific" "pure existentialists" who wish to base
their ethics purely on facts (and not on religious hogwash or "air")
would, I imagine, be lapping this up.

Pretty cool stuff.

And Jordan Peterson has been bringing an awareness of Jaak Panksepp
and his rat play bout studies, and the consequent theory of an
emergent basis for ethics, to an audience of millions - Peterson
presents Panksepp's work in a compelling, comprehendable, (evidently)
accessible, and enjoyable way. It is easy to appreciate and be
grateful for this fact.


So, how's that for a starter - tasty and accessible enough?

Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:33:08AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> 
>  Original message From: Zenaan Harkness  
> Date: 8/13/18  7:29 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: 
> Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown 
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:14:35AM -0400, John Newman wrote:
> > https://www.thedailybeast.com/julian-assange-went-after-a-former-ally-it-backfired-epically
> 
> > On cue. What say you about this, John Newman?
> 
> Barrett Brown is a big-headed egotistical schmuck who alienates
> people. Julian Assange has an ego, but he knows how to check it,
> work with others, and get things done. Assange has allies. Brown
> had cohorts(acquaintances) and cronies. He's declined dramatically
> since ProjectPM. His writings on Pursuance read like a public
> bathroom screed
> .

Thank you.

Re: “Free speech is not just another value. It's the foundation of Western civilization.” - Dr Peterson

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 05:36:24PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 03:39:49AM -0300, Juan wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > “Free speech is not just another value. It's the foundation of Western 
> > > civilization.” - Dr Peterson
> > 
> > 
> > hey Zen why do ypu keep promoting such a scumbag as peterson?
> > Don't you understand that he's a fraud? You should really work on
> > your critical thinking skills instead of being a
> > putin-dailystormer-peterson echo chamber. 
> 
> Happy to discuss a position, but generic handwaving doesn't move the
> conversation usefully, as far as I can tell.
> 
> That which is useful to some, may not be useful to you/ others. OK,
> but that does not stop what is useful from being useful - just like
> "all families are fascist dictatorships from which comes no good"
> is unlikely to stack up as a sane position, at least for some folks.

And anyway - what the hell is wrong with someone (in this case
Peterson), daring to suggest that the mythology of Christianity
might actually embody truths of an abstract sort which truths might
be useful to the day to day, and life in general, pursuits of a
human?

And further, daring to suggest that such abstract principles (if the
word "truth" is too much for you to stomach in a conversation which
mentions the word Christianity) have substantial overlap with
Buddhism?

And more yet, that at least some of these abstract principles appear
to have a biological emergent basis (one could say from the Darwinian
perspective) - including an emergent basis for how to define ethics -
this should I imagine be grabbed by both horns by the Sam Harris'es
of the world!  (As in, an atheist couldn't ask for much more!)

Seriously, this is very cool science, mixed into (in this case
Peterson's) psychological study of not only the biblican stories in
Genesis, but at least those stories from Genesis.

Peterson has said --so very much-- that a hand waving "he's full of
shit" just does not cut it sorry.

If you want to take Peterson down, at least attack some particular
principle you claim to be false (or as in James D's case, an example
of a position that appears to be manifestly unfair - the Lefty
Loonies have had effectively unfettered "permission" to exploit
Marxist doctrine for literally decades to smash open the Western
hierarchy/ society apple carts, and only now when the Huwaite
conservatives start to get going, Peterson turns around and says "oh
no you don't - you're not allowed to do that" - sure, can't dispute
that that's unfair, and from a practical perspective one could easily
say in response (to this unfairness position) "sure, go to it,
re-build the Huwaite tribes to the extent possible and use whatever
damn principles achieve that result" - but at least be prepared to
answer the objections raised by Peterson and his ilk :) ).

Juan, I responded to your last Peterson- (and now Zenaan- ) bashing
email, here:
https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042914.html

Are you disputing the 300 million year basis for "dominance"
hierarchies?

What about Peterson's 'emergent basis for ethics'?

Or are you just flailing at the windmill of Peterson using the word
"Christian" in his talks?

Ball's in your court...

Re: Cryptocurrency: Music

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 03:25 grarpamp  wrote:

>
> Tired of dealing with anti's? Have some ups :)
>

Awww...  You know I love you, my sweet pumpkin!  <3

I'm back now, baby.  Well, with some hundreds of technical problems [1],
millions of late messages and important readings, but with much more music
and silly comments, jokes, and puns, yay!  :D

Thank you for making me smile, my dear pumpkin.  Always take care, please.
I'm still trying to be safe and comfortable, but times are changing...  You
always know when a storm is arriving.

Love you,

Ceci

[1]  Buffer and some apps seem to hate me and the new notebook is slower
than ZH's brain.  My charm with electronics is not the same, tsk, tsk...  ;P

--
"Don't let anyone rob you of your imagination, your creativity, or your
curiosity.  It's your place in the world; it's your life.  Go on and do all
you can with it, and make it the life you want to live."  -  Mae Jemison

>

Re: Cody Wilson

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Juan, my dear,

Cody's e-mail is "crw at defdist dot org".

You can complain personally about all the JavaScript stuff and security,
but do _not_ annoy the guy being a troll, please.

I am sincerely begging you.  He has already a lot of stressing factors and
psychological pressure in this moment.

Tender kisses, warm hugs and hot chocolate, dear all.  It's Winter in
Brazil, yay!  ;D

Ceci

"Don't let anyone rob you of your imagination, your creativity, or your
curiosity.  It's your place in the world; it's your life.  Go on and do all
you can with it, and make it the life you want to live."  -  Mae Jemison

>

Re: “Free speech is not just another value. It's the foundation of Western civilization.” - Dr Peterson

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 03:39:49AM -0300, Juan wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > “Free speech is not just another value. It's the foundation of Western 
> > civilization.” - Dr Peterson
> 
> 
>   hey Zen why do ypu keep promoting such a scumbag as peterson?
>   Don't you understand that he's a fraud? You should really work on
>   your critical thinking skills instead of being a
>   putin-dailystormer-peterson echo chamber. 

Happy to discuss a position, but generic handwaving doesn't move the
conversation usefully, as far as I can tell.

That which is useful to some, may not be useful to you/ others. OK,
but that does not stop what is useful from being useful - just like
"all families are fascist dictatorships from which comes no good"
is unlikely to stack up as a sane position, at least for some folks.