Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
On 06/28/2020 09:17 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 17:51:07 -0700 > Mirimir wrote: > Anything can be argued on this list =) Fair enough. The truth is that I'm reminded yet again how frustrating it is to argue with you ;)
Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
On 06/28/2020 01:06 AM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 23:31:32 -0700 > Mirimir wrote: > > >> Well, it's a different type of virus. And it may well be one where >> immunity after infection and recovery doesn't last very long, and where >> vaccines won't work. > > That's just...fear mongering propaganda =) - X 'may' be Y...Pigs 'may' > fly if you throw them off a rooftop, etc. There's ~zero doubt that pigs can't fly. But the length of immunity after recovery from COVID-19 is clearly an open question. If for no other reason than having just several months of data. And we won't likely have a useful answer until 2022. >> If that's the case, it could be a fuckload worse >> than another kind of flu. But ask me again next year this time. > > Next year two things may happen. Either the flu will be again > misrepresented as some horrible pest that 'could' exterminate the human > race...or it won't, and the flu PSYOP will be replaced by some New And > Improved PSYOP. It's not a type of influenza. The common cold is generally caused coronaviruses and rhinoviruses. So if anything, COVID-19 is basically a bad cold ;) >>> And even if that were the case, it's just how the natural world works. >>> There are ups and downs. >> >> I do agree with that. And one aspect of "how the natural world works" is >> that monocultures are vulnerable to decimation by pathogens. So COVID-19 >> is just a natural response to human overpopulation. > > That's assuming that humans are a monoculture which I don't think they > are, >From the perspective of a virus, they pretty much are. However, it's likely that some populations are more susceptible than others, so it's not as extreme as bananas (clones) or even typical agricultural crops. > although no doubt govcorp is working hard on making everbody a mass produced > robot. Yeah, no doubt. > But again you're assuming that the flu is some kind of terrible pest > although the plain facts show that's not the case. As to overpopulation, > that's more a matter of opinion than fact. I don't mean to defend the > current consumerist 'culture' but I don't think it's necessarily close to > breaking point yet (sadly). Again, it's not influenza. And about overpopulation, many do think that we're close to the breaking point. But whatever, it's pointless to argue about it on this list. >> And there's no >> reason to think that there won't be more. The rate of zoonotic disease >> outbreaks has increased about five fold in recent decades. > > ...yeah the subhuman chinese eat raw bats =) Indeed, that's one aspect. SARS and COVID-19 came from Chinese eating bats. Ebola came from Africans eating bushmeat: bats (ebola) and nonhuman primates (HIV). MERS came from camels in Saudi Arabia, and perhaps originally from bats. So yeah, gotta watch out for bats. >>> exactly like the always since there living things appeared on earth. >>> Old and sick people die. Of anything. See how fucking insane - and >>> ridiculous the charade is? >> >> Well, being so old, I'd rather not be surrounded by people infected with >> COVID-19. And fortunately, I live in an area with very few of them. > > > You can isolate yourself however you see fit. But voluntary quarantine > is obviously NOT what this is about. I also isolate myself from the cesspool of popular culture :) >>> The obvious objective of the charade is to thighten controls >>> over...everything. >> >> It does seem that way, doesn't it? Opportunism seems more likely than >> conspiracy, but you could be right. > > > Most of the conspiracy I see here is that it's possible for govcorp to > tell a blatant lie and the serfs just go along with it. Yes, sadly enough. > Technofascism and 'science' worship come into play because the typical > product of public 'education' who believes in the 'progress' of technology > also believes whatever the 'scientists' say. So it's quite easy for govcorp > to pretend that some strain of the flu is the New Biological Apocalypsis. And > yet... I am a hardcore materialist, and I do consider the scientific method to be the best approach for understanding stuff. I'd rather be a god than worship one (or a goddess). So variation and selection are my deities. > "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_error > Globally, it is estimated that 142,000 people died in 2013 from adverse > effects of medical treatment; this is an increase from 94,000 in 1990.[1] > However, a 2016 study of the number of deaths that were a result of medical > error in the U.S. placed the yearly death rate in the U.S. alone at 251,454 > deaths, which suggests that the 2013 global estimation may not be accurate." That's for sure a serious issue. But that's about physicians, and they are not at all scientists. They're more like witch doctors.
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Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
On 06/27/2020 11:08 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 22:27:55 -0700 > Mirimir wrote: > >>> I guess you didn't even bother looking at the age of the people >>> allegedly killed by the 'virus'? So, do your homework, read wikimierda. >> >> Sure, COVID-19 is mainly killing older people. Looking at various online >> sources, almost half of fatalities were over 75. > > > roughly half of the fatalities are people over the 'average life > expectancy'. They are already dead, statistically speaking. > >> About 25% were 65-74, >> and about 22% were 45-64. Only about 5% were under 45. And yes, for all >> age groups, most of the fatalities had underlying health conditions. > > so the current PSYOP is just the flu rebranded. And not even the flu as > the direct cause but just a factor. Well, it's a different type of virus. And it may well be one where immunity after infection and recovery doesn't last very long, and where vaccines won't work. If that's the case, it could be a fuckload worse than another kind of flu. But ask me again next year this time. > "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza > Influenza spreads around the world in yearly outbreaks, resulting in about > three to five million cases of severe illness and about 290,000 to 650,000 > deaths" It's too early to compare. >> But most of those people arguably died sooner that they would have, but >> for COVID-19. Maybe not a lot sooner, I admit. But in the most heavily >> affected areas, total death rates _did_ increase. > > compared to what? Compared to historical averages. > And even if that were the case, it's just how the natural world works. There > are ups and downs. I do agree with that. And one aspect of "how the natural world works" is that monocultures are vulnerable to decimation by pathogens. So COVID-19 is just a natural response to human overpopulation. And there's no reason to think that there won't be more. The rate of zoonotic disease outbreaks has increased about five fold in recent decades. >> Anyway, I do get the argument that it would have made more sense, >> overall, to just let everyone get infected, > > that's not my point. My point is that this is a ridiculous charade. I do tend to agree with that. >> and let all the old and >> infirm just die. > > exactly like the always since there living things appeared on earth. > Old and sick people die. Of anything. See how fucking insane - and ridiculous > the charade is? Well, being so old, I'd rather not be surrounded by people infected with COVID-19. And fortunately, I live in an area with very few of them. > the 'humanitarian' retards supposedly want to stop death - though of > course only death caused by their imaginary threat. Nobody is talking about, > say, banning cars, which certainly would save a lot of lifes and limbs. Or > banning war? War is peace! Truth. >> That would arguably have avoided the huge economic >> shitstorm that we'll be facing for the rest of the decade. > >> >> And damn, if you welcome the shitstorm, why complain so loudly about the >> proximate cause? Isn't it all for the lulz? > > well, one of the good consequences is that children weren't mind raped > in schools for a few months. As to the a possible economic shitstorm, I don't > think it will happen. Time will tell. > The obvious objective of the charade is to thighten controls > over...everything. It does seem that way, doesn't it? Opportunism seems more likely than conspiracy, but you could be right. > Hey, didn't you see the Emperor of the Cyphperpunks, Sir Jim Bell > advocating for more fascist surveillance? No comment.
