Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: Cryptocurrencies: alpha-11 US-Public System released

2020-02-04 Thread grarpamp
On 2/2/20, other.arkitech  wrote:
> The proposal is to replace current Governments with a low-cost
> distributed machine that would collect inputs and produce outputs

Sure, that is all good and interesting to try.

> not apply filters in people's input.
> The system would be able to let people decide whether if a 'road' is
> convenient or not, and how to fund it.

What if the people decide USPS is inconvenient due to license inability
to hack and fork, or is being too centralized monetized premined controlled
by all these "business investors" and "private invites". People will leave
it with no adoption, and all USPS people names and funds die with it.
Even from old age who going to enforce or care then.
And when people simply reverse engineer or clone around and
make a new better than USPS system.
At least actual opensource distributed forkable as needed
might survives with good reverence and actual freedom.

How can peopel think trying to teach new voluntaryism model of
"letting people decide" without force concerning "whatabout muh roads"...
can be honestly taught using a software application students
will eventually discover is based on non-voluntary license force.
Did not some students rise to destroy this conflicting master.

How to not apply filters to peoples tools.

> Everything is better compared to our current model of participation in the
> society based on ticking a box every 4 or 5 years.

Then don't tick any box.
And write code boxes to bypass them.

Or tick the Libertarian box if you want to see Stasi boy go postal.



Sure maybe there is no problem making private money in some ways,
just that truth should be disclaimed in front.


"spend years of my life
learning to code improvements/modules to particular software
platform, it might as bloody well be something I can continue to do
if I leave my present corporation"


Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: Cryptocurrencies: alpha-11 US-Public System released

2020-02-02 Thread other.arkitech


 [OBORONA-SPAM] ? this should be a false positive
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‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 12:20 AM, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 10:24:33AM +, other.arkitech wrote:
>
> > > > I do share the code with devs for specific patches under NDA.
> > >
> > > NDA? LMAO! Frankly, at this point I should tell you to get lost.
> >
> > said who?
>
> There might be something lost in language barrier - or not, not sure
> here.
>
> There are perhaps not many "hard core floss devs" willing to sign an
> NDA with you.
>
> The question folks will want answered is "why should I sign an NDA,
> just to look at code or to write some modules?"
>
> But again, perhaps we are missing something between the language
> barriers...
>
> Knowing the following getting repetitive, I strongly suggest
> beginning discussions on the real fundamentals - some are simply not
> grasping that your "virtual/ collective/ public ledger taxation"
> model is something we want to get on board with.
>
> It might be - but such a "might be" must live in the minds of those
> you want to convince to join you, see?
>
> Such conversations might best be started with questions.
>
> Here's one such hypothetical beginning:
>
> Do we consider roads to be "public infrastructure"?
>
> In what ways can we pay for roads?
>
> Do we want more roads?
>
> What criteria should we use for deciding amongst the different ways
> to pay for new roads?
>
> Good luck,

Thanks for changing route Zen,
As Punk-Stasi points out the Public System definition is vague at this point. 
what this USPS proposes is a bottom-up approach to a Public System, starting 
from the fundamentals.
The proposal is to replace current Governments with a low-cost distributed 
machine that would collect inputs and produce outputs in infinite loop. A 
system that would have a real view of the 'common interest' because it would 
not apply filters in people's input.
The system would be able to let people decide whether if a 'road' is convenient 
or not, and how to fund it.
Everything is better compared to our current model of participation in the 
society based on ticking a box every 4 or 5 years.




















Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: Cryptocurrencies: alpha-11 US-Public System released

2020-02-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 10:24:33AM +, other.arkitech wrote:
> 
> > > I do share the code with devs for specific patches under NDA.
> >
> > NDA? LMAO! Frankly, at this point I should tell you to get lost.
> 
> said who?

There might be something lost in language barrier - or not, not sure
here.

There are perhaps not many "hard core floss devs" willing to sign an
NDA with you.

The question folks will want answered is "why should I sign an NDA,
just to look at code or to write some modules?"

But again, perhaps we are missing something between the language
barriers...


Knowing the following getting repetitive, I strongly suggest
beginning discussions on the real fundamentals - some are simply not
grasping that your "virtual/ collective/ public ledger taxation"
model is something we want to get on board with.

It might be - but such a "might be" must live in the minds of those
you want to convince to join you, see?

Such conversations might best be started with questions.

Here's one such hypothetical beginning:

  Do we consider roads to be "public infrastructure"?

  In what ways can we pay for roads?

  Do we want more roads?

  What criteria should we use for deciding amongst the different ways
  to pay for new roads?


Good luck,