Re: Fwd: Whites going ape for Blacks in America -- Re: Soros' BLM _finally_ lifting their image, much to Soros' relief -- Re: surprisingly, Soros now pins US color revolution on Trump

2020-08-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 08:14:58AM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> 
> On 2020-08-03 13:13, Karl wrote:
> > You are saying that all groups (all people) are precious, right?  I agree
> > with this strongly.  And what do you think of long term trends of change?
> 
> Anyone who says "abolish the police" is saying some lives don't matter.
> 
> Civilized people who live among other civilized people don't need police
> and policing, and for them police are a dangerous nuisance who give you
> traffic tickets and whom the family court will send to kick down your
> door.  But blacks need police very much, because blacks tend to live
> around black people, and people who live around black people are subject
> casual violence and high risk of violent death.
> 
> Maybe abolishing the police would work out well for some of us.  For one
> thing, there would soon be far fewer black people.


   It’s Gonna Blow
   Be a Miracle if it Don't
   Fred Reed • July 30, 2020 • 1,600 Words
   https://www.unz.com/freed/its-gonna-blow-be-a-miracle-if-it-dont/

  .. BLM is cocky, aware of its power, made overconfident by easy victory. 
It, and Antifa, have never met resistance. If things get really wild, though, 
they will. They will also find that food does not really grow in Safeway, and 
that a Safeway burned out does not necessarily return to be burned out again.

  A country gets what it asks for, and deserves what it tolerates. Most of 
the social problems engendering chaos result from the failure or collusion of 
government.

  .. The deadliest question is how to accommodate blacks. One mustn’t say 
what everyone knows, that blacks are the least educable, least productive, most 
criminal, most violent, most dependent, and least assimilable of the 
population. If anything can be done about any of these, it won’t be, because no 
one is permitted to name the problem. No one is in charge.

  .. If confronted by force, the white rioters, mostly young, will melt 
away. They are Snowflakes, Millennials, young, stupid, ignorant, having the 
most exalted time of a life boring before and soon to be again, Blacks, more 
virile, will not. If they do not, the resultant mayhem will make our starter 
riots like like a PTA meeting at Lake Woebegone. Then what?

  Here we come to the joys of diversity. Cultures can be too different to 
live together. Whites and blacks have almost no common ground, little common 
history. Whites trace their history back to well before the ancient Greeks, 
through Rome, the Renaissance, Europe. Blacks had no part in this and, it 
seems, have no interest in it. Aristotle? Thomas Jefferson? Einstein? Madame 
Butterfly? Galois? FORTRAN? These might all have come from some remote galactic 
civilization.

  There is no agreement, anywhere, at any level, over anything. Hardcore 
conservatives insist that the coronavirus is no worse than the common flu as 
hospitals report overwhelmed ICUs and epidemiologists cry the alarm. Blue 
states favor lockdown while red states open up. Libertarians peddle cockamamie 
conspiracy theories. Mask laws are ignored or fought over. China, South Korea, 
Singapore shut down, control the virus, go back to work. Not America. Nobody is 
in charge.

  Nothing holds the country together. There is no social glue, no dominant 
culture. We have no shared history, language, dialect, ethnicity, or religion. 
Diversity turns the country into rubble.

  Diversity? It is the end of America. The country once was overwhelmingly 
white, European, Anglophone, and Christian. It worked, as approximate 
monocultures usually do. No longer. The North hates—the word is not too 
strong—the South and seeks to erase its culture and uniqueness. The Bible Belt 
is intensely Christian while the northern elites, heavily Jewish, seek to 
suppress Christianity. The coastal elites hold the central deplorables in 
contempt. Blacks hate whites. Feminists hate men.

  Hispanics float in indeterminate limbo, not having jumped either way. 
Amerindians maintain a demanding apartness. Jews, neither Christian nor, in the 
minds of many, neither quite European or quite American, control the media and 
finance, generating perennial hostility. Bulk lot Somalis, having nothing in 
common with Minnesota, are in Minnesota. On and on.

  It is going to blow. If it doesn’t, a miracle will have happened.

  Currently, if weirdly, blacks hold the whip hand in the country, but it 
will not last and won’t improve racial relations. it is lighting a fuse, 
fertilizing hatreds that cannot be expressed but, if ever they are, Katie bar 
the door.

  Statues come down if blacks don’t like them. Universities abandon 
teaching English grammar because blacks can’t understand it. Whites are fired 
for saying, “All lives matter.” The country lowers standards for blacks in 
medical schools, lowers required scores on the bar exam for them. High schools 
give diplomas to blacks who can barely read.


Re: Fwd: Whites going ape for Blacks in America -- Re: Soros' BLM _finally_ lifting their image, much to Soros' relief -- Re: surprisingly, Soros now pins US color revolution on Trump

2020-08-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 08:14:58AM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> 
> On 2020-08-03 13:13, Karl wrote:
> > You are saying that all groups (all people) are precious, right?  I agree
> > with this strongly.  And what do you think of long term trends of change?
> 
> Anyone who says "abolish the police" is saying some lives don't matter.
> 
> Civilized people who live among other civilized people don't need police
> and policing, and for them police are a dangerous nuisance who give you
> traffic tickets and whom the family court will send to kick down your
> door.  But blacks need police very much, because blacks tend to live
> around black people, and people who live around black people are subject
> casual violence and high risk of violent death.
> 
> Maybe abolishing the police would work out well for some of us.  For one
> thing, there would soon be far fewer black people.


Oh man, that simple truth just HAS to blow some "PC" minds out there.

When an unexpected truth is spoken, it's often extraordinarily funny, even if 
it is black humour.


Fwd: Whites going ape for Blacks in America -- Re: Soros' BLM _finally_ lifting their image, much to Soros' relief -- Re: surprisingly, Soros now pins US color revolution on Trump

2020-08-05 Thread jamesd


On 2020-08-03 13:13, Karl wrote:
> You are saying that all groups (all people) are precious, right?  I agree
> with this strongly.  And what do you think of long term trends of change?

Anyone who says "abolish the police" is saying some lives don't matter.

Civilized people who live among other civilized people don't need police
and policing, and for them police are a dangerous nuisance who give you
traffic tickets and whom the family court will send to kick down your
door.  But blacks need police very much, because blacks tend to live
around black people, and people who live around black people are subject
casual violence and high risk of violent death.

Maybe abolishing the police would work out well for some of us.  For one
thing, there would soon be far fewer black people.


Fwd: Whites going ape for Blacks in America -- Re: Soros' BLM _finally_ lifting their image, much to Soros' relief -- Re: surprisingly, Soros now pins US color revolution on Trump

2020-08-04 Thread Karl
Hey,

I'm getting post acknowledgement emails from the list, but my posts aren't
showing up in the archive.

I thought the queue must be backlogged or something but then I saw Jim's 5G
email in my inbox.

I know I'm mostly just a troll, but seemed like the kind of thing one would
check in around.

I've also gotten cc'd replies from others that aren't showing in the
archives and likely haven't been broadcast.


-- Forwarded message -
From: Karl 
Date: Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: Whites going ape for Blacks in America -- Re: Soros' BLM
_finally_ lifting their image, much to Soros' relief -- Re: surprisingly,
Soros now pins US color revolution on Trump
To: 
Cc: cypherpunks 


James,

I hear you speaking of george floyd in ways that sound honest to me.  It's
not the opinion I usually hear when people sound honest about it.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 8:14 AM  wrote:

> On 2020-08-04 19:38, Karl wrote:
> > I know these particular friends well enough to predict their behavior
> > accurately and am pretty certain they are not lying.
>
> Yet somehow, strangely, in all of America, despite frantic and desperate
> search by the mainstream media, they have not been able to find what you
> so easily found.
>
> Why don't you report one of these many cases of horrific white
> persecution of dindu nuffins to the mainstream media?  You will be a
> bigger hero than Jussie Smollett or Crystal Gail Mangum or was Jackie
> Coakley was.  You will be world famous for years.
>

What's important here is that what you are saying makes no sense to me.  I
was asking _how_ to find things.  I haven't "easily found" any information
on white persecution. Was my email to you changed in transit?  PLEASE
VERIFY YOU READ THIS PARAGRAPH, or relate around blockchaining the email to
sort this out.

Below it sounds like we have very different experiences and I haven't
replied much more yet.  It sounds like "black privilege" is a term used to
build fairness in environments where "white privilege" (which is the only
one I've heard) could be stimulating struggle.  Usually we use the phrase
"white privilege" in environments where blacks are struggling; it sounds
like it could have spread to environments where the opposite is true.


> > You mention a black jogger, but not the george floyd video everybody
> > struggled to get recognised this year ... what do you know about the
> george
> > floyd video?
>
> Every person in the world has seen the George Floyd video until they are
> sick of it.
>
> George Floyd was wrongfully killed, after engaging in violent acts
> against black and white people, police among them, again and again again
> and again all his life, among them two armed robberies, one of a
> pregnant woman in her home, and getting a slap on the wrist for each of
> his crimes.
>
> If one keeps getting in fights with authority figures, eventually one of
> them may well wrongfully kill one, but all the other times, they
> wrongfully let him go on his merry way.
>
> George Floyd wrongfully started a fight with police, while out of his
> mind on drugs.  Police wrongfully ended it - but it happened to him, and
> not to a white man, because George Floyd was out of his mind on a
> cocktail of drugs that might well have killed him if the police did not,
> and which certainly contributed to his death.
>
> Meanwhile, at the George Floyd protests, many people have been
> wrongfully killed, many innocent people have had their homes and
> businesses burned down, many good men, many of them white, have suffered
> grave injuries.
>
> The number of black unarmed non felons killed by police is absolutely
> insignificant.  The number of white unarmed non felons killed by police
> is enormously larger, because black privilege means that cops cannot get
> away with doing that to blacks, and can get away with doing that to
> whites.  There is clear and overwhelming discrimination by cops and
> judges against white people.
>
> If a white man had George Floyd's record, he would not have been killed
> by police because he would still be in jail.
>
> And if, when he eventually, at long, long, long last, got out of jail,
> he was killed the way George Floyd was killed, no one would notice and
> no one would care.
>



K

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