Re: Persecution of Julian Assange Must End

2018-06-26 Thread Zenaan Harkness


On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 09:15:58AM -0400, Digitalfolklore wrote:
> On 26 June 2018 11:53 AM, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 08:45:05PM +0100, Ben Tasker wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Ryan Carboni rya...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Of course Assange is an Ecuadorian citizen, so if they wanted to, they
> > > > could have him leave the embassy through temporary diplomatic status,
> > > > particularly since he isn't accused of any crime by the British.
> > > 
> > > No, no they couldn't.
> > > The host country grants/approves diplomatic credentials, so it's up to the
> > > UK Government whether he gets that status. You can already guess what the
> > > answer would be.
> > 
> > Also, Assange is accused by the British courts of failing to abide by
> > the bail conditions to appear in court for sentencing/ extradition,
> > instead he went into the Ecuadore embassy.
> > They call that contempt of court, which is a jailable "offence".
> > Unfortunately it is only the individual's "offences" against the
> > state which go punished in many cases, and not the states offences
> > against the individual.
> > Assange is due one mighty exemplary compensation payout at the end of
> > the day...
>
> needs a kick in the pants for being so egocentric

Perhaps exactly this lesson is on his Karmic plate and resulted him
to suffer such an extended incarcerative kick in said pants :)

There's always a price to pay for helping people :/

At least Assange is taking an unremitting stand - if nothing else
he's an example many more could surely emulate and the world would
be better for it.

One needs -some- ego to survive in this dang world - something I am
completely unacquainted with of course, providing the Dalai Llama's
personal Humility 1-0-1 lessons and all...  =D - there's just nothing
quite like the ignorance of bliss, and for everything else there's
Mir card.

Z



Re: Persecution of Julian Assange Must End

2018-06-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 08:45:05PM +0100, Ben Tasker wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Ryan Carboni  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Of course Assange is an Ecuadorian citizen, so if they wanted to, they
> > could have him leave the embassy through temporary diplomatic status,
> > particularly since he isn't accused of any crime by the British.
> >
> 
> No, no they couldn't.
> 
> The host country grants/approves diplomatic credentials, so it's up to the
> UK Government whether he gets that status. You can already guess what the
> answer would be.

Also, Assange is accused by the British courts of failing to abide by
the bail conditions to appear in court for sentencing/ extradition,
instead he went into the Ecuadore embassy.

They call that contempt of court, which is a jailable "offence".

Unfortunately it is only the individual's "offences" against the
state which go punished in many cases, and not the states offences
against the individual.

Assange is due one mighty exemplary compensation payout at the end of
the day...


Re: Persecution of Julian Assange Must End

2018-06-23 Thread Ben Tasker
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Ryan Carboni  wrote:

>
>
> Of course Assange is an Ecuadorian citizen, so if they wanted to, they
> could have him leave the embassy through temporary diplomatic status,
> particularly since he isn't accused of any crime by the British.
>

No, no they couldn't.

The host country grants/approves diplomatic credentials, so it's up to the
UK Government whether he gets that status. You can already guess what the
answer would be.





-- 
Ben Tasker
https://www.bentasker.co.uk


Re: Persecution of Julian Assange Must End

2018-06-23 Thread Ryan Carboni
This is a principle that is uncontroversial, that the state's actions
against citizens must be limited and subject to open and transparent
processes, not by a consensus of people selected to form the consensus, and
that the government itself is not infallible (exemplified by the omniscient
US government thinking Snowden was on a Bolivian plane).

Of course Assange is an Ecuadorian citizen, so if they wanted to, they
could have him leave the embassy through temporary diplomatic status,
particularly since he isn't accused of any crime by the British.

Naturally this won't happen, as he is a bargaining chip in the current
system.


Persecution of Julian Assange Must End

2018-06-20 Thread grarpamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfcSqn2XSjI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8j42o04AZA

Bringing Julian Assange Home

By John Pilger - ICH - June 17, 2018

This is an abridged version of an address by John Pilger to a rally in
Sydney, Australia, to mark Julian Assange's six years' confinement in
the Ecuadorean embassy in London.

The persecution of Julian Assange must end. Or it will end in tragedy.

The Australian government and prime minister Malcolm Turnbull have an
historic opportunity to decide which it will be.

They can remain silent, for which history will be unforgiving. Or they
can act in the interests of justice and humanity and bring this
remarkable Australian citizen home.

Assange does not ask for special treatment. The government has clear
diplomatic and moral obligations to protect Australian citizens abroad
from gross injustice: in Julian's case, from a gross miscarriage of
justice and the extreme danger that await him should he walk out of
the Ecuadorean embassy in London unprotected.

We know from the Chelsea Manning case what he can expect if a US
extradition warrant is successful -- a United Nations Special
Rapporteur called it torture.

I know Julian Assange well; I regard him as a close friend, a person
of extraordinary resilience and courage. I have watched a tsunami of
lies and smear engulf him, endlessly, vindictively, perfidiously; and
I know why they smear him.

In 2008, a plan to destroy both WikiLeaks and Assange was laid out in
a top secret document dated 8 March, 2008. The authors were the Cyber
Counter-intelligence Assessments Branch of the US Defence Department.
They described in detail how important it was to destroy the "feeling
of trust" that is WikiLeaks' "centre of gravity".

This would be achieved, they wrote, with threats of "exposure [and]
criminal prosecution" and a unrelenting assault on reputation. The aim
was to silence and criminalise WikiLeaks and its editor and publisher.
It was as if they planned a war on a single human being and on the
very principle of freedom of speech.

Their main weapon would be personal smear. Their shock troops would be
enlisted in the media -- those who are meant to keep the record
straight and tell us the truth.

The irony is that no one told these journalists what to do. I call
them Vichy journalists -- after the Vichy government that served and
enabled the German occupation of wartime France.

Last October, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation journalist Sarah
Ferguson interviewed Hillary Clinton, over whom she fawned as "the
icon for your generation".

This was the same Clinton who threatened to "obliterate totally" Iran
and, who, as US secretary of State in 2011, was one of the instigators
of the invasion and destruction of Libya as a modern state, with the
loss of 40,000 lives. Like the invasion of Iraq, it was based on lies.

When the Libyan President was murdered publicly and gruesomely with a
knife, Clinton was filmed whooping and cheering. Thanks largely to
her, Libya became a breeding ground for ISIS and other jihadists.
Thanks largely to her, tens of thousands of refugees fled in peril
across the Mediterranean, and many drowned.

Leaked emails published by WikiLeaks revealed that Hillary Clinton's
foundation - which she shares with her husband - received millions of
dollars from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the main backers of ISIS and
terrorism across the Middle East.

As Secretary of State, Clinton approved the biggest arms sale ever --
worth $80 billion -- to Saudi Arabia, one of her foundation's
principal benefactors. Today, Saudi Arabia is using these weapons to
crush starving and stricken people in a genocidal assault on Yemen.

Sarah Ferguson, a highly paid reporter, raised not a word of this with
Hillary Clinton sitting in front of her.

Instead, she invited Clinton to describe the "damage" Julian Assange
did "personally to you". In response, Clinton defamed Assange, an
Australian citizen, as "very clearly a tool of Russian intelligence"
and "a nihilistic opportunist who does the bidding of a dictator".

She offered no evidence -- nor was asked for any -- to back her grave
allegations.

At no time was Assange offered the right of reply to this shocking
interview, which Australia's publicly-funded state broadcaster had a
duty to give him.

As if that wasn't enough, Ferguson's executive producer, Sally
Neighour, followed the interview with a vicious re-tweet: "Assange is
Putin's bitch. We all know it!"

There are many other examples of Vichy journalism. The Guardian,
reputedly once a great liberal newspaper, conducted a vendetta against
Julian Assange. Like a spurned lover, the Guardian aimed its personal,
petty, inhuman and craven attacks at a man whose work it once
published and profited from.

The former editor of the Guardian, Alan Rusbridger, called the
WikiLeaks disclosures, which his newspaper pub