Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 01:32:09PM -0700, Razer wrote: > > On 08/14/2018 12:23 PM, jim bell wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 11:44:31 AM PDT, John Newman > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote: > > > Drawing a blank? > > > > >No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it - > > > > >https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html > > > > > > > > In that, I saw: "I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian > > was sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the > > ambassador to Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the > > outcome of the election..." > > I do recall that prior to the 2016 election, many people were > > criticizing Trump for failing to state that he would accept the result > > of the election. > > Jim Bell > > > > > > Odd. The message IS visible onsite at riseup, but the emails show a > blank in thunderbird. Only John's... The text DOES appear if I View > Message Source. > > Return-Path: > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on > spoonbill.riseup.net > > X-Spam-Level: > > X-Spam-Pyzor: Reported 0 times. > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=AM_TRUNCATED,BAYES_50, > > > CK_419SIZE,CK_KARD_SIZE,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FORWARD_RELAY, > > SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 > > Delivered-To: g...@riseup.net > > Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.33]) > > (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) > > (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure > Server CA" (verified OK)) > > by spoonbill.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72F2E10B > > for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:44:08 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: from wintermute.synfin.org (synfin.org [198.154.106.50]) > > by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFA81A08FA > > for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:44:08 -0700 (PDT) > > Authentication-Results: mx1.riseup.net; dkim=pass > > reason="1024-bit key; unprotected key/testing" > > header.d=synfin.org header.i=@synfin.org header.b=VvRfplkQ; > > dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral > > Received: from wintermute.synfin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by wintermute.synfin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A502F336B63; > > Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:44:07 -0400 (EDT) > > X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at synfin.org > > Received: from wintermute.synfin.org ([127.0.0.1]) > > by wintermute.synfin.org (wintermute.synfin.org [127.0.0.1]) > (amavisd-new, port 10024) > > with LMTP id 3WQqDMhicRok; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:44:07 -0400 (EDT) > > Received: by wintermute.synfin.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) > > id E2A84336B60; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:44:06 -0400 (EDT) > > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=synfin.org; s=SYNFIN; > > t=1534272246; bh=fP+XN5TO2cC7hOqb5NRa8ks7oLW+pmLnPzqqzN31sNY=; > > h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; > > b=VvRfplkQXa7ruew8Ntmc9b69IBRK/DiTcSxaUEszCoNPEV4mk0SS1Ym9KACmgNs9o > > BZk3ENPm8benx2JAXRUcWNukAlk5JdRbQ/rcyGD+ltB7jCo9wI6gWCawsI/hMnu2gS > > VqfElQQPeczD2C5kYzzccdft24V2+hXqqnJDQpkA= > > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:44:06 -0400 > > From: John Newman > > To: Razer > > Cc: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org > > Subject: Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown > > Message-ID: <20180814184406.syj4qbwk5muxi...@synfin.org> > > References: <20180813142938.t3zlqc6jtykl2...@eye.freedbms.net> > > <20180813163317.5577811c0...@pglaf.org> > > <20180814141936.q62p7srblwobf...@synfin.org> > > <7efc2d6a-ae61-a9c1-a7a5-7c95cac25...@riseup.net> > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; > > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ayya7elb5ctl3f6s" > > Content-Disposition: inline > > In-Reply-To: <7efc2d6a-ae61-a9c1-a7a5-7c95cac25...@riseup.net> > > User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 > > --ayya7elb5ctl3f6s > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Disposition: inline > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote: > > > Drawing a blank? > > No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it -=20 > > https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html >
Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
On 08/14/2018 12:23 PM, jim bell wrote: > On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 11:44:31 AM PDT, John Newman > wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote: > > Drawing a blank? > > >No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it - > > >https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html > > > > In that, I saw: "I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian > was sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the > ambassador to Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the > outcome of the election..." > I do recall that prior to the 2016 election, many people were > criticizing Trump for failing to state that he would accept the result > of the election. > Jim Bell > > Odd. The message IS visible onsite at riseup, but the emails show a blank in thunderbird. Only John's... The text DOES appear if I View Message Source. Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on spoonbill.riseup.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Pyzor: Reported 0 times. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=AM_TRUNCATED,BAYES_50, CK_419SIZE,CK_KARD_SIZE,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FORWARD_RELAY, SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 Delivered-To: g...@riseup.net Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by spoonbill.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72F2E10B for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wintermute.synfin.org (synfin.org [198.154.106.50]) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFA81A08FA for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: mx1.riseup.net; dkim=pass reason="1024-bit key; unprotected key/testing" header.d=synfin.org header.i=@synfin.org header.b=VvRfplkQ; dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from wintermute.synfin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wintermute.synfin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A502F336B63; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:44:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at synfin.org Received: from wintermute.synfin.org ([127.0.0.1]) by wintermute.synfin.org (wintermute.synfin.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 3WQqDMhicRok; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wintermute.synfin.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E2A84336B60; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:44:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=synfin.org; s=SYNFIN; t=1534272246; bh=fP+XN5TO2cC7hOqb5NRa8ks7oLW+pmLnPzqqzN31sNY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=VvRfplkQXa7ruew8Ntmc9b69IBRK/DiTcSxaUEszCoNPEV4mk0SS1Ym9KACmgNs9o BZk3ENPm8benx2JAXRUcWNukAlk5JdRbQ/rcyGD+ltB7jCo9wI6gWCawsI/hMnu2gS VqfElQQPeczD2C5kYzzccdft24V2+hXqqnJDQpkA= Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:44:06 -0400 From: John Newman To: Razer Cc: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown Message-ID: <20180814184406.syj4qbwk5muxi...@synfin.org> References: <20180813142938.t3zlqc6jtykl2...@eye.freedbms.net> <20180813163317.5577811c0...@pglaf.org> <20180814141936.q62p7srblwobf...@synfin.org> <7efc2d6a-ae61-a9c1-a7a5-7c95cac25...@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ayya7elb5ctl3f6s" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7efc2d6a-ae61-a9c1-a7a5-7c95cac25...@riseup.net> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 --ayya7elb5ctl3f6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote: > Drawing a blank? No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it -=20 https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html >=20 >=20 > On 08/14/2018 07:19 AM, John Newman wrote: >=20 --=20 GPG fingerprint: 17FD 615A D20D AFE8 B3E4 C9D2 E324 20BE D47A 78C7 --ayya7elb5ctl3f6s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEF/1hWtINr+iz5MnS4yQgvtR6eMcFAltzIvYACgkQ4yQgvtR6 eMehDgf/SclWtIlbNmIIe1okUl7m6k2fKnJG6rvxDvKYlDY9OT9FBTyDzQaKpf6D 5DGMzz/heXbaTeQSx0yMVO+hylPH7DLX3Gs8k/M5ZZlOobIrsa5FBQpCwLwbE2DE ylOWhOuREIyvWaPBJmulVr2hgKJILM/0ph41jh0MM3nxSVGgMDPGAJ6DjJRYB7ET xqLTndL89ivlI8QueQ9Dvtpory6edRJ9n1hdTj8HtfmoqcNAUivb8N83HofJ0JIK fAuovfrlVqV+DEwZrUckBwBzFb2mOg+wDwPNMpLIEzkxl+/z1NSKWqr6zx2rUrRU ALxPdwI9KzyNWqI+LFGG0cVPy59cyQ== =vc8M -END PGP SIGNATURE- --ayya7elb5ctl3f6s-- Something about NeoMutt's encoding perhaps? Rr
Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
On 08/14/2018 12:23 PM, jim bell wrote: > On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 11:44:31 AM PDT, John Newman > wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote: > > Drawing a blank? > > >No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it - > > >https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html OK... In re "And, unlike Julian, he did like ~4years in an actual federal prison.." That's because he was (and perhaps is again) a stupid junkie. He actually threatened a fed investigating him. His EGO took him down. Have I mentioned if there's ONE DEFINING TRAIT of a Junkie, it's their stupid fucking egos. I'm SURE I've brought that up before. Rr > > > > In that, I saw: "I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian > was sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the > ambassador to Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the > outcome of the election..." > I do recall that prior to the 2016 election, many people were > criticizing Trump for failing to state that he would accept the result > of the election. > Jim Bell > >
Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
For some reason John's emails showed up blank. Even in plaintext mode. No attachments. This one too. "Re: Next Year's Federal Military budget over $700 billion. Is that a problem?" Rr On 08/14/2018 12:23 PM, jim bell wrote: > On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 11:44:31 AM PDT, John Newman > wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote: >> Drawing a blank? >> No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it - >> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html > > In that, I saw: "I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian was > sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the ambassador to > Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the outcome of the > election..." > I do recall that prior to the 2016 election, many people were criticizing > Trump for failing to state that he would accept the result of the election. > Jim Bell > > > >
Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 11:44:31 AM PDT, John Newman wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote: > Drawing a blank? >No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it - >https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html In that, I saw: "I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian was sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the ambassador to Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the outcome of the election..." I do recall that prior to the 2016 election, many people were criticizing Trump for failing to state that he would accept the result of the election. Jim Bell
Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:16:50AM -0700, Razer wrote: > Drawing a blank? No way, Jack. My (poorly written) email had stuff in it - https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-August/042947.html > > > On 08/14/2018 07:19 AM, John Newman wrote: > -- GPG fingerprint: 17FD 615A D20D AFE8 B3E4 C9D2 E324 20BE D47A 78C7 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
Drawing a blank? On 08/14/2018 07:19 AM, John Newman wrote:
Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:33:08AM -0700, Razer wrote: > > Original message From: Zenaan Harkness > Date: 8/13/18 7:29 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: > Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:14:35AM -0400, John Newman wrote: > > https://www.thedailybeast.com/julian-assange-went-after-a-former-ally-it-backfired-epically > > > On cue. What say you about this, John Newman? > > Barrett Brown is a big-headed egotistical schmuck who alienates people. > Julian Assange has an ego, but he knows how to check it, work with others, > and get things done. Assange has allies. Brown had cohorts(acquaintances) and > cronies. He's declined dramatically since ProjectPM. His writings on > Pursuance read like a public bathroom screed > <https://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/83214869988>. > Rr Yeah, I don't know much about Barrett, except some of his writings are fairly amusing. And, unlike Julian, he did like ~4years in an actual federal prison.. Maybe it's just me, but I'd much rather sit in an embassy in London with visitors and real food and real internet (etc) than sit in a Federal prison in the US. This is not to take away from Julians plight, which is dire, and bogus, and fucked up... I also do tend to think that some of the shit Julian was sending to Trump Jr over twitter - asking to be made the ambassador to Australia, telling him to be prepared to dispute the outcome of the election, basically all sorts of shit that falls completely outside the idea of "transparency", which so thickly permeates the wikileaks mission statement. Again - not to take away from all the great shit they've done... its just a bit ugly. -- GPG fingerprint: 17FD 615A D20D AFE8 B3E4 C9D2 E324 20BE D47A 78C7 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:33:08AM -0700, Razer wrote: > > Original message From: Zenaan Harkness > Date: 8/13/18 7:29 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: > Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:14:35AM -0400, John Newman wrote: > > https://www.thedailybeast.com/julian-assange-went-after-a-former-ally-it-backfired-epically > > > On cue. What say you about this, John Newman? > > Barrett Brown is a big-headed egotistical schmuck who alienates > people. Julian Assange has an ego, but he knows how to check it, > work with others, and get things done. Assange has allies. Brown > had cohorts(acquaintances) and cronies. He's declined dramatically > since ProjectPM. His writings on Pursuance read like a public > bathroom screed > <https://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/83214869988>. Thank you.
Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
Original message From: Zenaan Harkness Date: 8/13/18 7:29 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:14:35AM -0400, John Newman wrote: > https://www.thedailybeast.com/julian-assange-went-after-a-former-ally-it-backfired-epically > On cue. What say you about this, John Newman? Barrett Brown is a big-headed egotistical schmuck who alienates people. Julian Assange has an ego, but he knows how to check it, work with others, and get things done. Assange has allies. Brown had cohorts(acquaintances) and cronies. He's declined dramatically since ProjectPM. His writings on Pursuance read like a public bathroom screed <https://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/83214869988>. Rr
Re: Assange vs Barrett Brown
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:14:35AM -0400, John Newman wrote: > https://www.thedailybeast.com/julian-assange-went-after-a-former-ally-it-backfired-epically On cue. What say you about this, John Newman?
