Re: Burner phone for international call from US
Thanks for the help all.
Re: Burner phone for international call from US
On 7/22/19, John Newman wrote: >> And you can dig around in phone recycle bins. > > Yeah, I've noticed these machines at the grocery store lately You can't pull from those. Look for open recycling bins at shops that people just dump their phones, batteries, chargers into. And ask or bribe the street cell shops to rummage through their worthless trashbins. Or post up as your own recycling service. Again, SIMs are harder than phones, and lobbying of all involved parties needs to be done there to keep them open for all the good anon use cases. Some countries have already lost that battle because nobody lobbied hard enough. > preloaded with so much shit software that you don't want > cyanogenmod image or something ... if such a rom exists. Needs to be a completely unlocked phone. Cyanogen is dead, most moved to LineageOS, /e/, etc. See... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XDA_Developers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_distributions
Re: Burner phone for international call from US
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 02:23:21PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > On 7/22/19, John Newman wrote: > > The so-called "Obama phones" are indeed true pieces of shit. > > There are also charity type places that give away or sell > for $10-20 old used crap as "no SIM emergency call only" > "victim" "keep in touch with and track children" phones. > > And you can dig around in phone recycle bins. Yeah, I've noticed these machines at the grocery store lately - you put in your old cell phones, it scans them and prices them out for you right then and there. Anyway, the "obama phones" wouldn't be so bad, except they come preloaded with so much shit software that you don't want and they are too slow to run, and its not uninstallable. Maybe with a cyanogenmod image or something they would be fine, if such a rom exists. -- GPG fingerprint: 17FD 615A D20D AFE8 B3E4 C9D2 E324 20BE D47A 78C7 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Burner phone for international call from US
On 7/22/19, John Newman wrote: > The so-called "Obama phones" are indeed true pieces of shit. There are also charity type places that give away or sell for $10-20 old used crap as "no SIM emergency call only" "victim" "keep in touch with and track children" phones. And you can dig around in phone recycle bins.
Re: Burner phone for international call from US
On July 21, 2019 11:26:44 PM UTC, Douglas Lucas wrote: >Dear cryptocurrency hoarders, aspiring cryptocurrency hoarders, and >those discarded by -- or barely hanging on in -- a global (anti)society >dedicated to assigning high status to those most adept at hoarding >commodities, while exterminating those odd enough to, like, help >others: > > >In Seattle where I reside, I'd like to purchase a burner phone for less >than $100 USD, though upper limit price is negotiable. Preferably >purchase offline with cash. > >This phone will be used by a comrade, whom I will coach, to place an >international call to a Western country, and a few calls within the >United States. > >I do not want the recipients of the calls to associate them with me, my >name, my voice, my phone number, etc. The recipients of the calls are >low-level staffpeople at small/medium-sized enterprises and/or >educational institutions. > >I do not care what super-duper state-level, corporate-level adversaries >know about me and my comrade and the calls. So although juking the NSA >and doing James Bond backflips is key to cryptofarters' masturbatory >fantasies, please hew to the standard spiels about threat models, etc. >Just trying to trick, er undercover interview, some low level >staffpeople at small/medium firms and educational institutions. Not >God. > >A key point is, it would be good if I could install onto the device one >of those obscure Russian or otherwise seedy apps that record all the >phone calls, so I may transcribe the phone calls later. If that's not >an >option, then the device needs a loud speakerphone so I can point a >small >digital audio recorder at it and record the calls for later >transcription. > >The purpose is journalistic research which, sorry not sorry Russophile >Zennadsfnsdjg Harkargfdsjkghsdkjg, I will not describe, even though >last >time I asked something research-y you tried to pry the purpose out of >me, probably so you could use it a springboard to scream pro-Putin >crap. > >Some folks in Seattle suggested I obtain, from another person, one of >the government-funded smartphones that are sometimes handed out by >social services here. I've used these devices before, so many millions >of adverts clog the screens, they're a nightmare. Also they would >betray >the area code, which probably isn't a problem but it would be ideal to >have at least a non-Seattle area code, maybe an area code in some other >Washington state area? Also I'm not sure if they can make international >calls, being government funded. Does anyone know The so-called "Obama phones" are indeed true pieces of shit. They squeeze a few dozen uninstallable apps on a phone with 8G of local storage and like 512M ram... Anyway, I am fairly sure you can make international calls, but depending on the provider you may have to add funds to what comes each month with the device. Also I'm not sure >it's >possible to install one of the seedy call-recording apps on one of >these >gov devices. > It should be, they are just shitty Android devices. But, no guarantees. >I'll be out of state in a few days, travelling in the US Pacific >Northwest for a few days, so if there's a model y'all would suggest I >buy at an out-of-state 7-Eleven or something, please let me know. > >If you don't know, maybe you could suggest a subreddit where it would >be >more helpful to ask, or an up-to-date guide or FAQ about this sort of >thing. > > >Thanks! May all your cryptocurrency fantasies come true -- >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon%27s_obol -- may instead of gazing >at Assange's face endlessly, we instead do things that are pro social. > >Doug signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Burner phone for international call from US
On 07/21/2019 04:26 PM, Douglas Lucas wrote: > Dear cryptocurrency hoarders, aspiring cryptocurrency hoarders, and > those discarded by -- or barely hanging on in -- a global (anti)society > dedicated to assigning high status to those most adept at hoarding > commodities, while exterminating those odd enough to, like, help others: > > > In Seattle where I reside, I'd like to purchase a burner phone for less > than $100 USD, though upper limit price is negotiable. Preferably > purchase offline with cash. > > This phone will be used by a comrade, whom I will coach, to place an > international call to a Western country, and a few calls within the > United States. > > I do not want the recipients of the calls to associate them with me, my > name, my voice, my phone number, etc. The recipients of the calls are > low-level staffpeople at small/medium-sized enterprises and/or > educational institutions. I trust that your meatspace name is not Douglas Lucas. Because, if it is, you've already blown it for anyone who can Google stuff. Given that Google etc do index the cypherpunk archives. Just sayin'. But hey, maybe your threat model doesn't include that threat ;)
Re: Burner phone for international call from US
For generic and *ware free inexpensive phones, most of which are entirely unlocked and can run LineageOS if need be, choose anything on this program... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_One https://www.android.com/one/ https://www.androidauthority.com/nokia-2-2-usa-1010154/ The Nokia 2.2 should be available in your physical stores within a month, others already are. Or upgrade hw (puri.sm) and sw (pureos.org) to the more flexible, open, secure... https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ Or downgrade to any used shit you find on your local classifieds. Throw any paygo SIM that has the international rates you want (free or cheap to n countries or numbers) from any shop into it. Total minimum cost for hw and fresh number roughly under $50USD to $170USD. Moving to more exotic and resistant levels will take much more time and money. > somehow disguising > the phone number by calling the carrier and requesting this and that > option. Uselessly ambiguous, needs reference link. > number would be successfully hidden during the international phone call. Nor any toll free call, you need the D channel or voip proxy service for that, some of which are payable in crypto, see exotic above. > purchase offline with cash. Wear shades, hoodie, Fawkes, avoid the cameras. > apps that record all the phone calls > loud speakerphone so I can point a small > digital audio recorder at it and record the calls for later > transcription. https://www.amazon.com/Olympus-TP-8-Telephone-Pick-up-Microphone/dp/B007OXMHDE > have at least a non-Seattle area code Prepaid SIM's let you choose during http registration. https://www.fakenamegenerator.com/ > not sure if they can make international > calls, being government funded. That would be a ridiculous prior restraint on US Constitutional free speech, immoral as all such restraints are. Sue the fuckers if so. Don't forget to lobby your fucked up government critters to continue allowing no-ID SIM's for victims of cyberstalking, rape, pro-whatever activists, etc. > possible to install one of the seedy call-recording apps on one of these > gov devices. See above. > subreddit Reddit search function. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon%27s_obol https://cryptokeystack.com/ https://simbit.com/ https://cryptosteel.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQQFA9YXCZ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkRbB8GgQjI As you can clearly see, the afterlife is talkin crypto, better stuff people with that because they won't be taking Fiat or shiny shit much longer ;) > aspiring cryptocurrency hoarders Pay me at an address to be published later.
Re: Burner phone for international call from US
Oh, and another thing people have suggested is to simply use my own LineageOS smartphone, hand it to my comrade, after somehow disguising the phone number by calling the carrier and requesting this and that option. The problem with this is there's no easy way to test that my phone number would be successfully hidden during the international phone call. And although many people will scream their certainties about that, I prefer to actually test, and there's no easy way to test as I have no test phone call receipient in the abroad country in question. (What prevents people who have no knowledge of X to scream what they insist is the truth about X? Nothing.) Thanks! Doug On 7/21/19 11:26 PM, Douglas Lucas wrote: > Dear cryptocurrency hoarders, aspiring cryptocurrency hoarders, and > those discarded by -- or barely hanging on in -- a global (anti)society > dedicated to assigning high status to those most adept at hoarding > commodities, while exterminating those odd enough to, like, help others: > > > In Seattle where I reside, I'd like to purchase a burner phone for less > than $100 USD, though upper limit price is negotiable. Preferably > purchase offline with cash. > > This phone will be used by a comrade, whom I will coach, to place an > international call to a Western country, and a few calls within the > United States. > > I do not want the recipients of the calls to associate them with me, my > name, my voice, my phone number, etc. The recipients of the calls are > low-level staffpeople at small/medium-sized enterprises and/or > educational institutions. > > I do not care what super-duper state-level, corporate-level adversaries > know about me and my comrade and the calls. So although juking the NSA > and doing James Bond backflips is key to cryptofarters' masturbatory > fantasies, please hew to the standard spiels about threat models, etc. > Just trying to trick, er undercover interview, some low level > staffpeople at small/medium firms and educational institutions. Not God. > > A key point is, it would be good if I could install onto the device one > of those obscure Russian or otherwise seedy apps that record all the > phone calls, so I may transcribe the phone calls later. If that's not an > option, then the device needs a loud speakerphone so I can point a small > digital audio recorder at it and record the calls for later transcription. > > The purpose is journalistic research which, sorry not sorry Russophile > Zennadsfnsdjg Harkargfdsjkghsdkjg, I will not describe, even though last > time I asked something research-y you tried to pry the purpose out of > me, probably so you could use it a springboard to scream pro-Putin crap. > > Some folks in Seattle suggested I obtain, from another person, one of > the government-funded smartphones that are sometimes handed out by > social services here. I've used these devices before, so many millions > of adverts clog the screens, they're a nightmare. Also they would betray > the area code, which probably isn't a problem but it would be ideal to > have at least a non-Seattle area code, maybe an area code in some other > Washington state area? Also I'm not sure if they can make international > calls, being government funded. Does anyone know? Also I'm not sure it's > possible to install one of the seedy call-recording apps on one of these > gov devices. > > I'll be out of state in a few days, travelling in the US Pacific > Northwest for a few days, so if there's a model y'all would suggest I > buy at an out-of-state 7-Eleven or something, please let me know. > > If you don't know, maybe you could suggest a subreddit where it would be > more helpful to ask, or an up-to-date guide or FAQ about this sort of thing. > > > Thanks! May all your cryptocurrency fantasies come true -- > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon%27s_obol -- may instead of gazing > at Assange's face endlessly, we instead do things that are pro social. > > Doug > >
