Re: Persecution of Julian Assange Must End
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 09:15:58AM -0400, Digitalfolklore wrote: > On 26 June 2018 11:53 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 08:45:05PM +0100, Ben Tasker wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Ryan Carboni rya...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > Of course Assange is an Ecuadorian citizen, so if they wanted to, they > > > > could have him leave the embassy through temporary diplomatic status, > > > > particularly since he isn't accused of any crime by the British. > > > > > > No, no they couldn't. > > > The host country grants/approves diplomatic credentials, so it's up to the > > > UK Government whether he gets that status. You can already guess what the > > > answer would be. > > > > Also, Assange is accused by the British courts of failing to abide by > > the bail conditions to appear in court for sentencing/ extradition, > > instead he went into the Ecuadore embassy. > > They call that contempt of court, which is a jailable "offence". > > Unfortunately it is only the individual's "offences" against the > > state which go punished in many cases, and not the states offences > > against the individual. > > Assange is due one mighty exemplary compensation payout at the end of > > the day... > > needs a kick in the pants for being so egocentric Perhaps exactly this lesson is on his Karmic plate and resulted him to suffer such an extended incarcerative kick in said pants :) There's always a price to pay for helping people :/ At least Assange is taking an unremitting stand - if nothing else he's an example many more could surely emulate and the world would be better for it. One needs -some- ego to survive in this dang world - something I am completely unacquainted with of course, providing the Dalai Llama's personal Humility 1-0-1 lessons and all... =D - there's just nothing quite like the ignorance of bliss, and for everything else there's Mir card. Z
Re: Persecution of Julian Assange Must End
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 08:45:05PM +0100, Ben Tasker wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Ryan Carboni wrote: > > > > > > > Of course Assange is an Ecuadorian citizen, so if they wanted to, they > > could have him leave the embassy through temporary diplomatic status, > > particularly since he isn't accused of any crime by the British. > > > > No, no they couldn't. > > The host country grants/approves diplomatic credentials, so it's up to the > UK Government whether he gets that status. You can already guess what the > answer would be. Also, Assange is accused by the British courts of failing to abide by the bail conditions to appear in court for sentencing/ extradition, instead he went into the Ecuadore embassy. They call that contempt of court, which is a jailable "offence". Unfortunately it is only the individual's "offences" against the state which go punished in many cases, and not the states offences against the individual. Assange is due one mighty exemplary compensation payout at the end of the day...
Re: Persecution of Julian Assange Must End
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Ryan Carboni wrote: > > > Of course Assange is an Ecuadorian citizen, so if they wanted to, they > could have him leave the embassy through temporary diplomatic status, > particularly since he isn't accused of any crime by the British. > No, no they couldn't. The host country grants/approves diplomatic credentials, so it's up to the UK Government whether he gets that status. You can already guess what the answer would be. -- Ben Tasker https://www.bentasker.co.uk
Re: Persecution of Julian Assange Must End
This is a principle that is uncontroversial, that the state's actions against citizens must be limited and subject to open and transparent processes, not by a consensus of people selected to form the consensus, and that the government itself is not infallible (exemplified by the omniscient US government thinking Snowden was on a Bolivian plane). Of course Assange is an Ecuadorian citizen, so if they wanted to, they could have him leave the embassy through temporary diplomatic status, particularly since he isn't accused of any crime by the British. Naturally this won't happen, as he is a bargaining chip in the current system.
