Re: cpunks archives gone as at September?
I can see y all have hiclass jobz that give uz layber day off. ur kollige stewdints getting one lastdrunk in. Original message From: Greg Newby Date: 9/5/18 8:11 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: cpunks archives gone as at September? On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 12:28:23PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 07:15:07PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > > On 09/05/2018 06:46 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 06:24:29PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > > >> On 09/05/2018 05:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > >>> Are the cpunks archives (or the list I guess) gone for good? > > >> > > >> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ > > >> > > >> | September 2018 Archives by date > > >> | > > >> | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > > >> | More info on this list... > > >> | > > >> | Starting: Wed Sep 5 17:19:36 PDT 2018 > > >> | Ending: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 > > >> | Messages: 2 > > >> | > > >> | cpunks archives gone as at September? Zenaan Harkness > > >> | cpunks archives gone as at September? jim bell > > >> | > > >> | Last message date: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 > > >> | Archived on: Wed Sep 5 18:03:35 PDT 2018 > > >> | > > >> | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > > >> | More info on this list... > > >> > > >> There's something ironic about that ;) > > > > > > Looks like those folk who "group" reply, but are not subscribed, are > > > not getting bounces to inform them they need to be subscribed? (or > > > may be they are - idk) > > > > > > I've had at least two such replies in September and there were no > > > archives until today, so their emails must get to me, but be dropped > > > due to not being subscribed, and therefore not archived. > > > > > > Makes sense. > > > > You've confused me. > > > > Are you saying that https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ was > > gone for a while recently? > > > > Or are you saying that you've received messages from the list that don't > > show up in the archives? > > I received messages which I thought were from the list and did not > show up in the archives. > > There were no -actual- messages for September until today, and so the > archive for Sept did not exist. This seems correct. > My sieve filter checks for To and Cc, and for the list-id, and files > all such emails into my cp folder, and there were at least 2 such > emails in September prior to today, which are not in the cpunks > archives. Evidently these messages went to you and was handled correctly, but were never posted to the cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org list. If anyone thinks messages *were* posted but *were not* archived at the link above, please let me know and I can dig into some log files. > It seems that some folks group-reply, and ignore any bounce or not > subscribed messages (since I receive such emails semi regularly, I > assumed that such persons would subscribe or stop group-replying and > just privately reply...) Yes. Mailman rejects a few things silently, but mostly people should get a bounce if a message is not accepted for the list. If anyone spots anomalies, let me know and I can take a closer look at the list config. I believe it's safe to "Cc: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org" but not "Bcc: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org" Also Mailman has a threshold for how many addresses may be included in To: and Cc: before flagging for the moderator (me). This hasn't happened recently. I noticed this whole series of messages seems to be archived correctly, which indicates that at least some things are currently working correctly. - Greg (cpunks list maintainer)
Re: cpunks archives gone as at September?
On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 12:28:23PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 07:15:07PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > > On 09/05/2018 06:46 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 06:24:29PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > > >> On 09/05/2018 05:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > >>> Are the cpunks archives (or the list I guess) gone for good? > > >> > > >> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ > > >> > > >> | September 2018 Archives by date > > >> | > > >> | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > > >> | More info on this list... > > >> | > > >> | Starting: Wed Sep 5 17:19:36 PDT 2018 > > >> | Ending: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 > > >> | Messages: 2 > > >> | > > >> | cpunks archives gone as at September? Zenaan Harkness > > >> | cpunks archives gone as at September? jim bell > > >> | > > >> | Last message date: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 > > >> | Archived on: Wed Sep 5 18:03:35 PDT 2018 > > >> | > > >> | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > > >> | More info on this list... > > >> > > >> There's something ironic about that ;) > > > > > > Looks like those folk who "group" reply, but are not subscribed, are > > > not getting bounces to inform them they need to be subscribed? (or > > > may be they are - idk) > > > > > > I've had at least two such replies in September and there were no > > > archives until today, so their emails must get to me, but be dropped > > > due to not being subscribed, and therefore not archived. > > > > > > Makes sense. > > > > You've confused me. > > > > Are you saying that https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ was > > gone for a while recently? > > > > Or are you saying that you've received messages from the list that don't > > show up in the archives? > > I received messages which I thought were from the list and did not > show up in the archives. > > There were no -actual- messages for September until today, and so the > archive for Sept did not exist. This seems correct. > My sieve filter checks for To and Cc, and for the list-id, and files > all such emails into my cp folder, and there were at least 2 such > emails in September prior to today, which are not in the cpunks > archives. Evidently these messages went to you and was handled correctly, but were never posted to the cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org list. If anyone thinks messages *were* posted but *were not* archived at the link above, please let me know and I can dig into some log files. > It seems that some folks group-reply, and ignore any bounce or not > subscribed messages (since I receive such emails semi regularly, I > assumed that such persons would subscribe or stop group-replying and > just privately reply...) Yes. Mailman rejects a few things silently, but mostly people should get a bounce if a message is not accepted for the list. If anyone spots anomalies, let me know and I can take a closer look at the list config. I believe it's safe to "Cc: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org" but not "Bcc: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org" Also Mailman has a threshold for how many addresses may be included in To: and Cc: before flagging for the moderator (me). This hasn't happened recently. I noticed this whole series of messages seems to be archived correctly, which indicates that at least some things are currently working correctly. - Greg (cpunks list maintainer)
Re: cpunks archives gone as at September?
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 07:15:07PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > On 09/05/2018 06:46 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 06:24:29PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > >> On 09/05/2018 05:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >>> Are the cpunks archives (or the list I guess) gone for good? > >> > >> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ > >> > >> | September 2018 Archives by date > >> | > >> | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > >> | More info on this list... > >> | > >> | Starting: Wed Sep 5 17:19:36 PDT 2018 > >> | Ending: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 > >> | Messages: 2 > >> | > >> | cpunks archives gone as at September? Zenaan Harkness > >> | cpunks archives gone as at September? jim bell > >> | > >> | Last message date: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 > >> | Archived on: Wed Sep 5 18:03:35 PDT 2018 > >> | > >> | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > >> | More info on this list... > >> > >> There's something ironic about that ;) > > > > Looks like those folk who "group" reply, but are not subscribed, are > > not getting bounces to inform them they need to be subscribed? (or > > may be they are - idk) > > > > I've had at least two such replies in September and there were no > > archives until today, so their emails must get to me, but be dropped > > due to not being subscribed, and therefore not archived. > > > > Makes sense. > > You've confused me. > > Are you saying that https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ was > gone for a while recently? > > Or are you saying that you've received messages from the list that don't > show up in the archives? I received messages which I thought were from the list and did not show up in the archives. There were no -actual- messages for September until today, and so the archive for Sept did not exist. My sieve filter checks for To and Cc, and for the list-id, and files all such emails into my cp folder, and there were at least 2 such emails in September prior to today, which are not in the cpunks archives. It seems that some folks group-reply, and ignore any bounce or not subscribed messages (since I receive such emails semi regularly, I assumed that such persons would subscribe or stop group-replying and just privately reply...)
Re: cpunks archives gone as at September?
On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:15:07 -0700 Mirimir wrote: > Are you saying that https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ was > gone for a while recently? > > Or are you saying that you've received messages from the list that don't > show up in the archives? I think during the last 4/5 days nobody posted any messages? I assumed everybody was just quiet - or in jail.
Re: cpunks archives gone as at September?
On 09/05/2018 06:46 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 06:24:29PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: >> On 09/05/2018 05:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> Are the cpunks archives (or the list I guess) gone for good? >> >> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ >> >> | September 2018 Archives by date >> | >> | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] >> | More info on this list... >> | >> | Starting: Wed Sep 5 17:19:36 PDT 2018 >> | Ending: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 >> | Messages: 2 >> | >> | cpunks archives gone as at September? Zenaan Harkness >> | cpunks archives gone as at September? jim bell >> | >> | Last message date: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 >> | Archived on: Wed Sep 5 18:03:35 PDT 2018 >> | >> | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] >> | More info on this list... >> >> There's something ironic about that ;) > > Looks like those folk who "group" reply, but are not subscribed, are > not getting bounces to inform them they need to be subscribed? (or > may be they are - idk) > > I've had at least two such replies in September and there were no > archives until today, so their emails must get to me, but be dropped > due to not being subscribed, and therefore not archived. > > Makes sense. You've confused me. Are you saying that https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ was gone for a while recently? Or are you saying that you've received messages from the list that don't show up in the archives?
Re: cpunks archives gone as at September?
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 06:24:29PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > On 09/05/2018 05:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Are the cpunks archives (or the list I guess) gone for good? > > https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ > > | September 2018 Archives by date > | > | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > | More info on this list... > | > | Starting: Wed Sep 5 17:19:36 PDT 2018 > | Ending: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 > | Messages: 2 > | > | cpunks archives gone as at September? Zenaan Harkness > | cpunks archives gone as at September? jim bell > | > | Last message date: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 > | Archived on: Wed Sep 5 18:03:35 PDT 2018 > | > | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > | More info on this list... > > There's something ironic about that ;) Looks like those folk who "group" reply, but are not subscribed, are not getting bounces to inform them they need to be subscribed? (or may be they are - idk) I've had at least two such replies in September and there were no archives until today, so their emails must get to me, but be dropped due to not being subscribed, and therefore not archived. Makes sense.
Re: cpunks archives gone as at September?
On 09/05/2018 05:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Are the cpunks archives (or the list I guess) gone for good? https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ | September 2018 Archives by date | | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] | More info on this list... | | Starting: Wed Sep 5 17:19:36 PDT 2018 | Ending: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 | Messages: 2 | | cpunks archives gone as at September? Zenaan Harkness | cpunks archives gone as at September? jim bell | | Last message date: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018 | Archived on: Wed Sep 5 18:03:35 PDT 2018 | | Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] | More info on this list... There's something ironic about that ;)
Re: cpunks archives gone as at September?
I'm still here. Jim Bell On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 17:20, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Are the cpunks archives (or the list I guess) gone for good? Are the cpunks archives (or the list I guess) gone for good?
