Re: Rubberhose Decrypt, 5th / 4th / Contempt Over Forgotten Passphrase / BrainWallet
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 03:04:19AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > What of integration with a sort of warrant canary numbers station... > And your own heuristic "you recognizer"... > > > Point of articles is: that in your brain is historically protected > such that ruberhose isn't even tried because it's plainly not legal. > These cases are trying to rubberhose that protection away by > bench legislation, and generally further destroy other protections > on the slope. That's beyond bad. Ack. Right to not self incriminate. Right to freedom of communication. Right to freely associate with other humans (big one under attack here in Australia). Right to choose which (if any) implement is inserted into any orifice of my body (the old breath testing units, some still used today). Right to choose which (if any) medications go into my body. and plenty more... we are in a war, right now, though few recognise this fact
Re: Rubberhose Decrypt, 5th / 4th / Contempt Over Forgotten Passphrase / BrainWallet
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 1:12 AM, grarpamp wrote: > > https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/09/judge-wont-release-man-jailed-2-years-for-refusing-to-decrypt-drives/ > https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/man-jailed-indefinitely-for-refusing-to-decrypt-hard-drives-loses-appeal/ > https://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/rawlsstaysinprisonruling.pdf > https://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/rawlsrehearingpetition.pdf > https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rawlsopinion.pdf > https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/comply.pdf > > Judge won't release man jailed 2 years for refusing to decrypt drives, > suspect to remain jailed pending 5th Amendment appeal to Supreme Court. > > https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/jail-looms-large-for-suspects-ordered-to-reveal-forgotten-passwords/ > > Is I forget a valid defense when court orders demand a smartphone password? > The answer seems to be yes and no. But one suspect on Tuesday gets 180 > days jail. > And now the new "iphone X" unlocks just by looking at it. Cops already have no problem strong arming a finger print, this facial scan shit seems like a horrible idea. > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15232069 > https://medium.freecodecamp.org/why-you-should-never-unlock-your-phone-with-your-face-79c07772a28 > http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2013/10/fingerprints-are-user-names-not.html > https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/01/fifth-amendement-passcodes-passwords-law/
Re: Rubberhose Decrypt, 5th / 4th / Contempt Over Forgotten Passphrase / BrainWallet
What of integration with a sort of warrant canary numbers station... And your own heuristic "you recognizer"... Point of articles is: that in your brain is historically protected such that ruberhose isn't even tried because it's plainly not legal. These cases are trying to rubberhose that protection away by bench legislation, and generally further destroy other protections on the slope. That's beyond bad.
Re: Rubberhose Decrypt, 5th / 4th / Contempt Over Forgotten Passphrase / BrainWallet
On Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 10:14:47 PM PDT, grarpamp wrote: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/09/judge-wont-release-man-jailed-2-years-for-refusing-to-decrypt-drives/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/man-jailed-indefinitely-for-refusing-to-decrypt-hard-drives-loses-appeal/ https://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/rawlsstaysinprisonruling.pdf https://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/rawlsrehearingpetition.pdf https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rawlsopinion.pdf https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/comply.pdf >Judge won't release man jailed 2 years for refusing to decrypt drives, suspect to remain jailed pending 5th Amendment appeal to Supreme Court. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/jail-looms-large-for-suspects-ordered-to-reveal-forgotten-passwords/ >Is I forget a valid defense when court orders demand a smartphone password? The answer seems to be yes and no. But one suspect on Tuesday gets 180 days jail. This has probably been discussed before, many times, my current thought is that devices which depend on passwords should pick up an additional hard-to-guess combination, through your local Wifi. Separate your device from this stream for "too long", and your usual passwords will cease to work. At that point, you'll have to enter a code:Fanciful example: Get a scientific calculator. Enter a 10 digit number you'll remember: Example: 1234567890. Press a function, say SQRT. Then press another, say Log(10), then press Sin(x). (or any other series of unary operations, and of whatever quantity and order.) The resulting 10-digit code is what you have to add, in addition to your usual code, to return that device to proper functioning. Or, the last two 10-digit codes. These numbers are at least conceivably memorizable, but in practice few would attempt to memorize them. If you are put into a position where they demand to get the code, the lawyer says, "The device is regularly fed by wireless means, keeping it unlocked and ready for presentation of a password. After days in authorities' hands, the device has "decided" that it is no longer "safe", and has locked itself. The use of his usual password will not unlock the device. My client, on a regular basis, does not rely on his memory to return the device to functioning, he needs other means which are not available to him now, and will not be employed while he is in custody." Jim Bell
Rubberhose Decrypt, 5th / 4th / Contempt Over Forgotten Passphrase / BrainWallet
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/09/judge-wont-release-man-jailed-2-years-for-refusing-to-decrypt-drives/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/man-jailed-indefinitely-for-refusing-to-decrypt-hard-drives-loses-appeal/ https://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/rawlsstaysinprisonruling.pdf https://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/rawlsrehearingpetition.pdf https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rawlsopinion.pdf https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/comply.pdf Judge won't release man jailed 2 years for refusing to decrypt drives, suspect to remain jailed pending 5th Amendment appeal to Supreme Court. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/jail-looms-large-for-suspects-ordered-to-reveal-forgotten-passwords/ Is I forget a valid defense when court orders demand a smartphone password? The answer seems to be yes and no. But one suspect on Tuesday gets 180 days jail. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15232069 https://medium.freecodecamp.org/why-you-should-never-unlock-your-phone-with-your-face-79c07772a28 http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2013/10/fingerprints-are-user-names-not.html https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/01/fifth-amendement-passcodes-passwords-law/
