RE: Screwing Jim Bell and Cypherpunks

2001-04-10 Thread Tim May

At 9:51 AM -0700 4/10/01, Eric Cordian wrote:
DCF wrote:

  Save that the Feds have no interest in proceeding against any list
  posters with cash and brains (or perhaps self-control).

I think the Bell case indicates the need for Cypherpunks to start writing
code again, and stop engaging in meatspace theatrics.


First, Bell's actions are not the actions of most members of this 
mailing list. Frankly, this is a logical error: referring to 
"Cypherpunks" as a collective entity and then imputing the views or 
actions of a few to be the views or actions of the collective entity. 
The government does this routinely.


Then no one would be on trial, and there wouldn't be a thing any
government could do to stop it.

Second, talk to Phil Z. and Kelly G. about their legal issues for 
several years, as the government sought to prosecute one or both of 
them for violations of the ITARs (and maybe more). True, neither was 
ultimately charged. Their legal bills were substantial, however, and 
they could have face prison time and massive fines.

Whatever people do in the way of writing code, doing it as near to 
untraceably as possible would seem to be the way to go.


--Tim May
-- 
Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California
Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon
Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go
Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns




Re: Federal tracking of drivers

2001-04-10 Thread Tim May

At 2:08 PM -0700 4/10/01, Morlock Elloi wrote:
--- Norm DePlume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  choice excerpt: Information compiled
by the Border Patrol on
  PAL users is confidential, and
federal officials are
  concerned about others possibly

Just FYI, inability to format text or sloppines, lazyness or sheer
stupidity and disregard for readers imply that your selection
criteria for posting is probably as dumb as your formatting
capabilities.

I agree.

On the times when I have forwarded articles, I have felt the 
obligation to spend a few minutes making sure the word wraps were OK, 
sometimes even pasting-into a text editor for massaging prior to 
pasting into my mailer.

A few more cases like this and "Norm DePlume" goes into the filter file.


--Tim May
-- 
Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California
Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon
Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go
Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns