Re: censorship rears its head

2000-09-14 Thread David Marshall

Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I will look forward to watching the coverage. Do you plan to take out 
> just the censorious bitch Lynne Cheney, or also her censorious 
> husband and VP candidate?
> 
> And then there's Al Gore (RAT) and his running mate (JEW RAT).
> 
> (Subliminal messages brought to you by the Republican Party).
> 
> Interesting that 3 out of the 4 top rats--Cheney, Gore, 
> Lieberman--have their own censorious attacks on speech, or have 
> spouses who lead such attacks. Lynne, Tipper, and   Lieberman 
> himself. I wonder why Bush is being left out? Maybe it'll be like 
> Nixon in China: the only one of the four not calling for repeal of 
> the First Amendment will be the one who pulls the trigger.

Some attorney (RAT) has filed suit against the entertainment industry
over the shooting in Peduchah, Kentucky. Right now he's doing the talk
radio circuit, trying to drum up support. (I suppose to cause such a
public outcry that the judge feels strongarmed to rule in his favor,
and to taint juries.) 

The central argument appears to be that the entertainment industry has
marketted their products, which happen to contain violence and sex, to
the people who are their biggest consumers: people under 18. But
because they're under the magic age of 18, they apparently aren't
responsible for blowing away their classmates; the computer game
companies are.

The quantity of bogus claims, lies, distortions, and general bullshit
the guy was spreading is too large for me to list them all, and after
a while they kind of blend into one big blob of bullshit anyway, but
I'll go over some of the more notable ones.

1) Contrary to whatever this attorney and other power-hungry censors
   would like us all to believe, the fact that most of these school
   shooters have played violent video games and seen violent movies
   does not mean that the movies were to blame. "But *ALL* of them
   have!" Yeah, and all of them probably ate chicken at some point in
   the month before their rampages too. The fallacy is obvious. As far
   as I know, nobody has bothered to counter the obvious question:
   Isn't it more likely that the people who have a predisposition to
   violence just tend to be drawn to this media, especially
   considering that there are millions of people out there who use it
   but *aren't* killing people?

2) He quickly tried to make some point that when a child (again,
   defined as someone under 18, or 17, as the case may be) sees
   "violent or sexually-explicit" images, there is some change in the
   brain. So he mentions some Harvard University study, but doesn't
   bother to give a useable citation (journal name, author, date...),
   which, he claims, showed "increased blood flows to the amygdala"
   using MRI in "children," but not in adults. 

   A) I have "increased blood flows" when I have a pulsating headache
   too. I have "increased blood flows" whenever my heart rate and
   blood pressure increase. I'm not a neurologist, but I'd figure that
   that doesn't mean anything neurologically. It dosen't even mean
   that there's enhanced activity in that region. 
 
   B) Wouldn't it make more sense to just slip the subjects
   radioactive glucose, wait a few minutes, and then do a PET scan?
   That way you can actually tell which neurons are firing? (When a
   neuron generates an action potential, it doesn't use any
   energy. It uses it when it recovers. So when a neuron fires a lot,
   it sucks in a lot of glucose, which means that the radioactive
   glucose winds up in the neurons, which means that it's held there,
   which means that you can see it on a PET scan.)

   C) Neurological structure changes *do* occur. They occur when I
   watch violent and sexually-explicit movies. They also change when I
   sit on the toilet, eat food, do a math problem, listen to music, or
   walk across the room. It's called learning. The fact that
   neurological structure changes in people exposed to this is
   meaningless. Do a behavoral study, then it might have some
   validity. 

   D) Why would you use an MRI in this case _at all_?

   E) Even increased activity does not imply psychological or
   neurological changes. It means that the neurons are firing. That's
   all. 

   This indicates that either:
 
 A) The researchers were purposefully trying to obscure data.

 B) The stupid attorney, and by extension probably the stupid judge,
 is trying to pull one over on the intentionally-stupid jury and
 voluntarily-stupid public, by distorting a biomedical study. 

3) When another attorney called in and challenged him with the obvious
   statement that it isn't the entertainment industry's problem but
   rather the shooter's and the shooter's parents, the plantiff's
   attorney retorted with a purposeful and direct distortion and
   asked: "It's the fault of the parents of the three little girls who
   were shot?" What happened after that was fairly unintelligable,
   while the plan

MP3.com yanks DeCSS sourcecode sung

2000-09-14 Thread Private User


  MP3.com yanks song with illegal
  DVD-hacking code 
  By Corey Grice
  Staff Writer, CNET News.com
  September 13, 2000, 7:25 p.m. PT 

  Joseph Weckers song about a binary computer code wasnt exactly a
  chart-topper, but he doesnt think MP3.com should have banned it. 

  The popular music Web site today removed the song, in which Wecker,
  sounding more than a little like a 1960s sit-in protester, sings a version of
  the banned computer code known as DeCSS. 

  In an email to Wecker, MP3.com cited the nature of
  the music lyrics for the songs eradication. "Your
  song has either a song title or lyrics that are
  offensive or otherwise inappropriate," the company
  wrote. 

  "Since there is a precedent holding (2600.com)
  culpable for posting the code, we felt it was in our
  best interest to remove it," an MP3.com spokesman
  said in an interview. 

  The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)
  has filed lawsuits seeking to outlaw the code, calling
  it a hack of its DVD encryption scheme aimed at
  making and distributing illegal copies of digital films.
  A federal judge in New York last month agreed,
  banning hacker publication 2600.com from
  publishing or linking to the code online. 

  The song, called DeCSS.MP3, offers an English-language rendition of
  computer code that, depending on whom you ask, is either a harmless
  exercise in experimental software engineering or a missile aimed at the
  heart of Hollywood. Either way, DeCSS has become a flash point in the
  head-on collision between digital technologies and copyright owners, much
  as Napster has for the music industry. 

  The programmers who wrote the code insist DeCSS was designed to play
  legally purchased movie DVDs on computers running the Linux operating
  system--a format not supported by the movie industry. They say the code is
  a form of speech and is protected by the First Amendment--a claim many
  DeCSS supporters have rushed to validate by churning out artistic and
  other nonfunctioning works based on the DeCSS source code. 

  Wecker said he sang the DeCSS code
  as a way to attract attention to the
  issue. 

  "Its gone one step too far," Wecker
  said. "Its illegal to photocopy a
  copyrighted poem. But now its like it
  has become illegal to tell someone
  how the Xerox works." 

  Other protesters have published
  portions of DeCSS on T-shirts and
  have recorded dramatic readings of
  the code. Some have used the code to
  create images in graphics files.
  Pro-DeCSS supporters say these
  demonstrations dont contain the full
  source code necessary to decode a
  DVD, a popular digital home movie
  format. 

  "I find it very disturbing that I live in a country where singing source code
  may be technically illegal--kind of chilling," Wecker said. "My song is just
  like the T-shirts. The T-shirts dont even have enough code to decode a
  DVD." 

  MP3.com, meanwhile, is wrestling with its own copyright troubles. A federal
  judge last week found that the company willfully infringed the copyrights of
  Universal Music Group in creating an online database of some 80,000 CDs
  for use with its My.MP3.com music locker service. The company could be
  on the hook for hundreds of millions of dollars in damages. 






fun and games with SDMI

2000-09-14 Thread Private User

Linux users say SDMI contest a trick 

 By Lisa M. Bowman, ZDNet News

 Some Linux lovers say the record industry is using them
 as a free consulting service to improve SDMI encryption.

 Some members of the Linux community are rejecting the
 record industrys request to help it create a more secure technical lock on its
 digital music.

 The Linux Journal is sponsoring a boycott of the Secure Digital Music Initiative 
hacking
 challenge, which starts Friday and promises to pay $10,000 to any hacker who 
strips out
 the watermark from a digital song.

 SDMI is a technology initiative launched by the record companies
 to crack down on piracy. In the coming weeks, SDMI will try out a
 variety of security measures, with plans to eventually adopt a
 hacker-tested technology that will prevent people from playing
 bootleg songs on SDMI-compatible hardware.

 However, some Linux lovers say the record industry is only using
 the hackers as a "free consulting" service to help it crack down 
on
 legal uses of music in the future, in an attempt to exert
 unprecedented control over when and where people play songs.

 The Linux Journal is urging readers to sign a letter saying they 
wont
 play along.

 "Thanks, SDMI, but no thanks. I wont do your dirty work for you," the letter 
states. "I
 will not help test programs or devices that violate privacy or interfere with the 
right of fair
 use."

 People who sign the letter will agree that they will never make a bootleg copy of 
a
 recording, but will only play one copy at a time in different devices, an action 
thats legal
 under the concept of fair use, but may be hard to follow in these days of rampant 
digital
 file swapping.

 In a sense, the open sharing of information that has allowed the Linux community 
to
 mushroom is directly at odds with the motives of traditional entertainment 
companies,
 which want to lock down their content.

 PR stunt

 Ironically, the entertainment industry in the past has sued people whove tried to 
reverse
 engineer their encryption technology -- the same act SDMI is now asking them to 
perform
 during the hacking contest.

 Linux Journal technical editor Don Marti, one of the boycotts organizers, said 
the goal is
 to thwart what he called "SDMIs PR stunt."

 "Why are freedom-loving people supposed to do free consulting work for an 
organization
 that wants to take away our freedom?" he asked.

 SDMI officials were not immediately available for comment.






film c meltdown imminent

2000-09-14 Thread A. Melon

The authors of FlasKMPEG have come across a program called
 FlasKMPEG DeCSS.
   We want to express very clearly that such program or any other
 derived from the original is no way related with the official
 FlasKMPEG project in any way. FlasKMPEG sources are available
 under the GPL license and its totally out of our responsibility the
 legal implications caused by the modifications or variations from other
 developers performed over our code. 
http://www.citeweb.com/flaskmpeg/







Re: Lee Free - Judge Apologizes For Government's Conduct

2000-09-14 Thread Tim May

At 4:04 AM -0400 9/14/00, Bill Stewart wrote:
>  >Tim May wrote:
>>...
>>>  Lee spent 9 months in solitary confinement and lost significant
>>>  salary and retirement benefits.
>
>That's why it was critical that Lee be guilty of *something*,
>at least one charge, so he doesn't have a strong position for
>suing the Feds for big bucks individually and organizationally.
>He may still have some ability to do that, but I'd be surprised
>if the plea bargain deal didn't address it somehow, even if it's
>not in the part that's in the press.
>
>>>  This makes it a moral requirement that former Defense Secretary
>>>  William Perry face a similar period of confinement and similar loss
>>>  of benefits. Perry has acknowledged downloading top secrets to his
>>>  home computer and leaving codeword material where his family,
>>>  housekeepers, and other visitors could have found and copied it.
>
>Was that Perry, or Deutch?  I think I saw recently that Deutch _is_
>getting his wrist slapped somewhat hard now.

You may be right. It may be Deutch, not Perry. I get those two guys 
confused all the time.


--Tim May
-- 
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Timothy C. May  | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
ComSec 3DES:   831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA  | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
"Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.





RE: Is kerberos broken? cpunk

2000-09-14 Thread Trei, Peter



> --
> From: David Honig[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:26 PM
> To:   Trei, Peter; Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:  RE: Is kerberos broken? cpunk
> 
> At 11:06 AM 9/13/00 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
> >Here's an example of a good passphrase:
> >
> >"David grossly underestimates the ability of homo sapiens to memorize
> >and exactly reproduce long texts. An examination of American 
> >high school students ability to perform the Gettysburg Address is a
> >good counterexample."
> >
> >222 bytes, more or less. Even if we assume only 1bit of entropy per
> >character (it's ordinary english), that's a pretty tough space to search.
> >It's a safe bet that those two sentences have never been placed
> >together in all of human history before now, so there's no dictionary
> >to check.
> >
> >The problem is not that passphrases *can't* be made secure -
> >the problem is that most people are unwilling to use good ones. 
> >
> >Peter Trei
> 
> Well I'm flattered :-) and impressed.   I would be more impressed if
> e.g., you actually used such an entropic phrase, in real life.  Of course,
> we don't
> expect you reveal the actual length of your 'phrase.
> 
My passphrases are of substantial length. 

As for enterprise logins, 'we have a solution to that problem' :-)
http://www.rsasecurity.com/products/securid/

> I think you have convinced me, reinforcing something I've learned and
> propogated: convenience over security.  You have also reinforced something
> that fits with what I know of cog sci, and which gets to the limits of H.
> sapiens: you can only remember large things if they're structured
> 'meaningfully'.  Kasparov can't remember *random* chessboards better than
> you, only real ones.
> 
> DH, CSEE & Cog Sci '86
> 
It's interesting - structure reduces the entropy by making things
predictable,
but also makes them capable of memorization, despite non-trivial amounts
of remnant entropy. 

Peter










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Re: domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school

2000-09-14 Thread Tom Vogt

"William H. Geiger III" wrote:
> >Subject: domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school
> 
> >Middle school student arrested in
> > poisoning
> 
> Exactly how do you get "domestic bioterrorism" from a rather simplistic poisoning?


by requiring a catchy headline, I'd guess.





Re: censorship rears its hypocritical head

2000-09-14 Thread Bill Stewart


>Lieberman: Entertainment Must
>Police Itself or Else 
>By Kalpana Srinivasan
>Associated Press Writer
>
>WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Joe Lieberman decried a
>"culture of carnage" surrounding Americas young
>people and told a Senate committee Wednesday that
>the government should stop the marketing of violent
>movies, music and video games to children if the
>industry fails to police itself. 
> http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGI11ED63DC.html

Yep - all those commercials for "Be All You Can Be, Join The Army" and
"Join The Navy, See The World, Meet Interesting People and Kill Them", and
"Army Reserve - Spend Saturdays Keeping In Practice as a Trained Killer" and
all the war movies the Pentagon helps get made, and "COPS" tv shows, and
"The Drug War - Fix Moral and Health Problems By Declaring War" and its
related "Job Training and Practical Entrepreneurism For Inner-City Youth"
program,
both of which teach kids that violence is a good way to relate to your
neighbor -
in some cities, the training extends to franchising opportunities,
starting your own "Young Crips" neighborhood chapter.
There's also the "Starve Young Children By Economic Blockade" programs for
ridding the world of Hitler-of-the-year candidates that's worked so well,
and the "Be Afraid - Make More Anthrax Vaccine Before Terrorists Use It" gigs.

The government really *should* stop marketing those violent programs.
Themselves.
Before they mess with the (really large) motes in the movie businesses' eyes.

Thanks! 
Bill
Bill Stewart, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Lee Free - Judge Apologizes For Government's Conduct

2000-09-14 Thread Bill Stewart


>Tim May wrote:
>...
>> Lee spent 9 months in solitary confinement and lost significant
>> salary and retirement benefits.

That's why it was critical that Lee be guilty of *something*,
at least one charge, so he doesn't have a strong position for
suing the Feds for big bucks individually and organizationally.
He may still have some ability to do that, but I'd be surprised
if the plea bargain deal didn't address it somehow, even if it's
not in the part that's in the press.

>> This makes it a moral requirement that former Defense Secretary
>> William Perry face a similar period of confinement and similar loss
>> of benefits. Perry has acknowledged downloading top secrets to his
>> home computer and leaving codeword material where his family,
>> housekeepers, and other visitors could have found and copied it.

Was that Perry, or Deutch?  I think I saw recently that Deutch _is_
getting his wrist slapped somewhat hard now.



Thanks! 
Bill
Bill Stewart, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF  3C85 B884 0ABE 4639





surveillance tech lists?

2000-09-14 Thread An Metet

Can anyone reccomend any email lists for discussing surveillance technology?

tia