Re: SF Bay Area Cypherpunks March 2001 Physical Meeting Announcement

[Tim May]

At 7:08 PM -0800 3/7/01, alphabeta121 wrote:
>how far is das bier garten to the mass transit?
>if its less than a 30 min walk i can hoof it.
>

There's a map in the URL in the original message. If that doesn't work, try:

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=3915+Alpine+Road&city=Portola+Valley&state=CA&slt=37.380900&sln=-122.193900&name=&zip=94028-8001&country=us&BFCat=&BFClient=&mag=8&desc=&cs=9&newmag=7&poititle=&poi=


I make it to be about 2 miles south of the Stanford campus, along 
Alpine Road of course. The Stanford campus is itself quite large, and 
the walk from either the train station or the bus stop on El Camino 
Real is probably 30 minutes just by itself. Probably 4 miles on foot, 
total.

I would offer to give you a lift from either the train station or the 
bus stop, if you could say fairly precisely when you would arrive, 
except that I have no idea who you are. The nym "Lucky Green" I would 
make a point to pick up, but the nym
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will have to make other arrangements.

No offense intended.

I've been to Rossotti's, aka Zott's, aka the Alpine Inn many times. A 
real slice of collegiana.

(This should not be a promise that I will be at Zott's, aka the 
Alpine Inn, tomorrow. I may cancel, given the narcing that is 
becoming more the norm lately. Wouldn't want the expression of my 
opinions to result in a royal command to appear for incrimination at 
a show trial. Some country this has become, eh?)

--Tim May


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Re: your mail

[Jim Choate]

I'd plead the 5th.



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On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, London, Robb wrote:

> Attorney General Ashcroft personally approved your subpoena, and that of another 
>reporter who published admissions by James Dalton Bell.  
> 
> The Government is not seeking any source material, notes, or other unpublished 
>material from you by virtue of this subpoena.  The limited purpose of the subpoena is 
>to have you review two of your published articles, acknowledge your authorship, 
>review several of the statements which you attributed to Bell in your articles, and 
>have you verify that he in fact told you those things.  That's all.  We're only 
>interested in having you testify about statements of his that you published.  If your 
>subpoena could have been avoided, it would have been.  Unfortunately, the Federal 
>Rules of Evidence do not permit a news article to be admitted into evidence for these 
>purposes unless the person who wrote it can attest to its authorship and the accuracy 
>of its content.  This must be done in open court, at trial, and cannot be 
>accomplished by affidavit, unless the defendant is willing to stipulate that your 
>appearance can be avoided and that your articles can be admitted into evidence wit!
ho!
ut your appearance as a foundation witness.  Mr. Bell is not interested in any such 
stipulations.  I regret any inconvenience that a trip to Tacoma may cause.  
> 
> I am extremely sensitive to the intrusiveness of any subpoena and the potential 
>negative impact that press subpoenas can have on the news gathering function.  The 
>subpoena that has been served on you, is, in my experience, as minimally intrusive as 
>any such subpoena can be.
> 
> Robb London
> Assistant United States Attorney
> Western District of Washington
> 

Re: DoJ and Cypherpunks...

[axlotl]

>It was a polite and reasonable post.  I think it's cool that he did
>that, and what he said makes sense.  Now I guess I'm an assistant
>attorney apologist apologist

While the message used polite words, its implications and usage was not 
polite, especially in the context of threats made to Adam Ciralsky, a 60 
Minutes reporter re a subpoena for his notes if the reporter continued to 
ask questions about the upcoming trial, and especially not in its implications 
for other cypherpunks who might  be interested in talking to the press -
 or on the list - regarding CJ, JB, or AP. (see )

The message is clear - if you monkey around with this stuff, expect to be 
dragged across the country a few times on short notice, threatened with 
perjury or other charges, and otherwise intimidated and inconvenienced until 
you stop thinking and talking about feds who get promotions and publicity 
by prosecuting an itinerant musician/author living out of his pickup truck 
and a 40-year old man who still lives with his parents and plays with stink 
bombs.

RE: DoJ subpoena guidelines for journalists

[David Akin]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sean Hastings
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 2:27 PM
> To: Declan McCullagh; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: DoJ subpoena guidelines for journalists
>
>
> Declan,
>
> What are the qualifications one has to meet to be considered a "member of
> the news media"? Does one have to work for some sort of Registered news
> agency, or publish in a registered periodical? I am publishing this right
> now, but I probably don't qualify. Why not?

Declan, as you may know, has had a helluva time getting Official Washington
to recognize him and other online news outlets as 'real' media, worthy of
the same media treatment and access to officials given to traditional print
and broadcast reporters. There are no qualifications you need and, in the US
and Canada, no licensing bureau or anything like that (thank god). If you
want to report on something, you just show up, call yourself a reporter and
see what the guy at the door says. At places like the White House, they'll
want to see some proof that you work for an outlet that they recognize as
'real news'. The definition held by the White House gatekeepers is probably
pretty restrictive. Go to the local stamp club exhibition, say you're a
reporter, and they won't care if/when you've ever written something. They're
just glad to have the interest.

So bottom line: You can call yourself a reporter when you act like one. Some
people think you gotta act like Sam Donaldson; others think you can act like
Hunter S. Thompson. Better yet, more people think you can like Kevin Poulsen
. . .

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Re: arrgh

[A. Melon]

Why was Jon Malkovich never charged with 'Threatening the life of a 
serving POTUS' for his role in In The Line Of Fire?  Clint Eastwood 
_specifically_ told him in response to a telephone threat that "[Y]ou 
could go to jail for saying that, even if you don't really mean it".

I thought there wasn't an exception for fantasy/fiction.  Malkovich 
isn't somehow 'connected' is he?


Cecil B. Demented, esq.

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"Ask not for whom the bell tolls: it's probably just a process server."


On Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:50:50 -0600 (CST) 'Bride of Chaotica' wrote:
>
> Or you could just go down to your local movie outlet and buy "Fight Club"
> where they describe how to make Nitro and Dynamite from basic soap. Then
> you could have the appropriate movie studio, producer, and (hell, go for
> broke) Brad Pitt to stand right along side of yourself.

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