I want rob london DEAD! I want his family DEAD!
My young friend robin banks gets carried away sometimes.Still,after reading what a lying weasel he is Ive dusted off operation soft drill to take a flying fuck at the donut eater.OSD international seeks pledges to be pooled and paid for the closest prediction of the slimy lawyers permanent retirement.Id buy that for a mojo-dollar! kill the president, proffr. A strong people do not need a government Emiliano Zapata
Re: zks freedom websecure trial (now for Linux!)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed some discussion of the SafeWeb cancellation of free services here. ZKS announced yesterday freedom websecure, which is an anonymous web browsing system with more robust redirection and script blocking than systems that rely on html re-writing. There is a free trial offered for a couple of months. http://www.freedom.net/products/websecure/ Unfortunately it only works as shipped with IE on windows in this version. But there's an unofficial, open-source Linux client also available: http://sourceforge.net/projects/websecure4linux/ An excerpt from the README: ---8---8---8--- WebSecure4Linux This is a really simple, quick-and-dirty Linux client for the Freedom(r) WebSecure service from Zero-Knowledge Systems. (See http://www.freedom.net/products/websecure/ for more info.) Note that you will need to sign up for the service by obtaining a WebSecure activation code and creating a user account and password before this client will operate. Trial activation codes, available until the end of January 2002, can be obtained from: http://www.freedom.net/trial.html Activation codes are sent to your e-mail address. (Once your account has been created, you might want to skip the client download. Unless, of course, you also run Windows.) *** IMPORTANT *** This is not supported by Zero-Knowledge Systems AT ALL; it's completely unofficial. You can try to get support at the SourceForge project page: http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/websecure4linux/ Right now, it supports http, and on linux 2.4, https as well. It shouldn't be hard to get the latter to work on 2.2 as well. This program is covered by the GPL; see the file COPYING for details. Some extra notes: It's not feature-complete. It doesn't manage your cookies, for example. [The tricky bit is just that this code forks *a lot*, and you'd need to put all the cookie info in persistent files, and put good locks around all accesses to them.] It's not speedy. Your performance will suck. It's written in perl, and forks for each web connection. It's not supported. If it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. ---8---8---8--- Have fun! - Ian
hirstory lessons
...I will personally have you killed. Whoever 'son of gomez' is they are clearly sexist and dangerous.Operation soft drill will pledge 1$ to have their messages here permanently expunged.We mean it Maan! There is no such thing as anonymity on the internet british plainscloths cop after 'smashing' a pedophile 'ring'.
playstation? play dead.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,3341838%255E421,00.html Man dies playing playstation From AAP 29nov01 A FISHING boat deckhand playing a computer game was electrocuted when a huge wave smashed through the window of the trawler's wheelhouse off the southern Queensland coast, according to police. Richard Wells, 19, of Innisfail, in north Queensland, was playing a Sony Playstation and sitting at a metal table when the wave smashed through the cabin glass of the trawler Arrow Sea near Fraser Island yesterday. A police spokesman today said a post mortem examination had determined the man had died of asphyxiation caused by electrocution. It was the combination of water and electricity and metal, he said. A huge wave came over the bow of the vessel and smashed through the cabin windows. The spokesman said three other crew members also suffered shocks and minor burns as they attempted to help Mr Wells, who was trapped in the wrecked cabin. The crew set off a satellite distress beacon after the accident and a rescue helicopter went to the scene. But the crew was able to get the trawler to Bundaberg under its own power, where it docked early today. Police have impounded the trawler until their investigations are complete.
collaborationist
Andy Hughes, AFP general manager for international and federal operations, said computers seized in raids around the world often contained links and leads to others involved in child sex offences. He said more arrests were likely to follow. These jobs are interesting in that they have a tendency to generate so many more avenues of inquiry over the course of the coming weeks, he said That will then be the genesis of a new global operation. They do tend to self feed these types of investigations. Mr Hughes said the operation demonstrated the benefits achieved by international cooperation. We really are tackling this in partnership with our colleagues overseas, he said. This whole concept of patch protection has gone. We have always cooperated. But we are working now collaboratively with our colleagues both in Australia and overseas. It is the only way to operate. The crooks do it. In this case pedophiles do it. We are using the same methodologies. In this case the AFP was the coordinator between the lead agency, the UK's National Crime Squad, and police in Australian states and territories. He said a senior liaison officer in London attended early meetings with the NCS and briefings at the Interpol secretariat in Lyons, France.
IP: DOJ's Already Monitoring Modems (fwd)
-- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/;leitl/a __ ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:01:35 -0500 From: David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP: DOJ's Already Monitoring Modems From: Monty Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] DOJ's Already Monitoring Modems By Declan McCullagh and Ben Polen 4:42 p.m. Nov. 28, 2001 PST WASHINGTON -- The Department of Justice already is using its new anti-terrorism powers to monitor cable modem users without obtaining a judge's permission first. A top Bush administration official lauded the controversial USA Patriot Act at a Senate hearing on Wednesday, saying that the new abilities have let police obtain information in investigations that was previously unavailable. We would not have been able to do (this) under prior law without a specific court order, said Michael Chertoff, assistant attorney general in the Justice Department's criminal division. ... http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,48711,00.html For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
Slashdot | DOJ Already Monitoring Cable Internet Traffic
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Re: Speech May Not Be Free, but It's Refundable
Speech May Not Be Free, but It's Refundable Its not censorship if its not the government. A gun show is a private affair; they can exclude any vendor or seller, morally. Legally they fnord can't exclude for certain criteria, eg cutaneous albedo. Cheers
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Re: IP: DOJ's Already Monitoring Modems (fwd)
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Show your patriotism! with Osama Toilet Paper! Targets! Urinal Pads! and Voodoo Dolls!
Show your patriotism! Put Osama in his place and support a good cause! Wipe with him! Shoot at him! Pee on him! Stick pins in his Voodoo Doll! Check it out! http://www.IHateTerroristsToo.com p.s. Cool Patriotic T's too! Our server at www.ihateterrorists.com was temporarily crashed by cyber-terrorists! We'll be back there soon!
It's just inevitable
One former senior F.B.I. official described the investigation this way: When you send a whole lot of agents out after a whole lot of people, they're going to find some who committed various crimes. It's just inevitable. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/29/national/29DETA.html (The article focuses on the fact that only about 1% of the 1200 detainees are suspected of terrorist involvement. It's a crime that they still haven't gotten due process, and we haven't seen their names...) Adam -- It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. -Hume
Re: playstation? play dead.
Um, what the fuck does this have to do with cypherpunks? And he could have easily been playing on a XBox or Dreamcast. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ --*--:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, mattd wrote: http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,3341838%255E421,00.html Man dies playing playstation From AAP 29nov01 A FISHING boat deckhand playing a computer game was electrocuted when a huge wave smashed through the window of the trawler's wheelhouse off the southern Queensland coast, according to police. Richard Wells, 19, of Innisfail, in north Queensland, was playing a Sony Playstation and sitting at a metal table when the wave smashed through the cabin glass of the trawler Arrow Sea near Fraser Island yesterday. A police spokesman today said a post mortem examination had determined the man had died of asphyxiation caused by electrocution. It was the combination of water and electricity and metal, he said. A huge wave came over the bow of the vessel and smashed through the cabin windows. The spokesman said three other crew members also suffered shocks and minor burns as they attempted to help Mr Wells, who was trapped in the wrecked cabin. The crew set off a satellite distress beacon after the accident and a rescue helicopter went to the scene. But the crew was able to get the trawler to Bundaberg under its own power, where it docked early today. Police have impounded the trawler until their investigations are complete.
how voluntary this really is
What's next, a voluntary arab visitor DNA database? from http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/29/national/29DEAR.html The Detroit Free Press reported on an Immigration and Naturalization Service memorandum that said those who were interviewed could be held without bond if investigators developed an interest in them. The memorandum, dated Friday, was written by Michael A. Pearson, executive associate commissioner of the immigration service, and was sent to all regional offices. It said requests by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to detain immigration violators under `no bond' should be honored and will be handled in the same manner as all prior cases with a direct nexus to the Sept. 11 investigation. Noel Saleh, an immigration lawyer with many Arab clients, said of the memorandum, It just confirms our suspicion that what they've been saying was to be a friendly encounter is not going to be a friendly encounter. ... I think it is going to make some people not even show up, he added. Then they will go looking for them. And then we will see how voluntary this really is.
Re: CDR: Show your patriotism! with Osama Toilet Paper! Targets!Urinal Pads! and Voodoo Dolls!
Let me get this straight... this idjut spams cypherpunks, and then blames any trouble he gets on terrorists? LOL Osama H wrote: Show your patriotism! Put Osama in his place and support a good cause! Wipe with him! Shoot at him! Pee on him! Stick pins in his Voodoo Doll! Check it out! http://www.IHateTerroristsToo.com p.s. Cool Patriotic T's too! Our server at www.ihateterrorists.com was temporarily crashed by cyber-terrorists! We'll be back there soon!
Publicizing CDC officials' home phone nos, stalking
poorly excerpted from http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-95027nov29.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dcalifornia On Wednesday, San Francisco law enforcement officials agreed. Police arrested Michael Petrelis and ACT UP San Francisco spokesman David Pasquarelli on charges of criminal conspiracy, stalking and making terrorist threats against newspaper reporters and public health officials. The pair, who are allies, are accused of calling reporters and health officials at home repeatedly past midnight, making threats and leaving obscene sexual messages. Together, they are charged with 27 felonies and misdemeanors. Both men have acknowledged making or encouraging late-night calls, sometimes using foul language, but have denied making threats. They cite the need for a new phase of activism to combat what they call false public health studies and biased news articles that have scared the gay community and discouraged gay sex. I did not make any death threats. I did not make any bomb threats, Petrelis said. Was I using abusive language? Well, yeah. The men were held in lieu of $500,000 bail. Petrelis has acknowledged publicizing the home phone numbers of top officials at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. And, on posters and the ACT UP San Francisco Web site, Pasquarelli's group has superimposed swastikas and other Nazi insignia on a picture of a top San Francisco public health official, Dr. Jeffrey Klausner, calling for his ouster.
Re: CDR: Declans testimony;Clone me!
On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 05:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, mattd wrote: As an entertainment journalist with a disability Talk about massive understatements... More like massively redundant. -- Remember, half-measures can be very effective if all you deal with are half-wits.--Chris Klein
Re: HDCP break and DMCA
On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 10:31 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: But as I said, most professors are being much more careful about getting permission beforehand and most copy places are being more careful about what they sell. If I remember the results correctly, Kinko's keeps track of what they copy and sends the publishers a certain amount. -- Remember, half-measures can be very effective if all you deal with are half-wits.--Chris Klein
Re: CDR: Re: in praise of gold
On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 07:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Faustine wrote: Not all women are golddiggers. They're called 'old maids'. ALL women who are interested in a 'relationship' are 'golddiggers' in the sense they want to 'change' the other party. Nothing like a good across the board generalization, huh Jim? Well, I hate to be in the position of defending Jimbo, but he's right--in a sense, but not just about women. I'd be willing to bet (should there be a way of proving it to my satisfaction) that in every relationship, one party would like to change AT LEAST 2 things about the other party. Of course, this then makes every person who gets into any kind of relationship a gold digger. Who was she? It's nice to see you're not bitter ;-/ Why do you assume it was a she? -- Remember, half-measures can be very effective if all you deal with are half-wits.--Chris Klein
True Names is out
Arrived in the mail today, trade paperback, bah, with Tim's essay as the second chapter. -Declan
Re: Order Now: True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier
Really-From - Well Known Cypherpunk I'd be happy to be wrong here, but the bet ain't over till the fat lady ships the books. Amazon's promised to accept orders before, and while we're closer to the promised this time for sure date than I've seen in the past, it's still just a promise. Meanwhile, if you want to see articles by Tim May, Dorothy Denning, Duncan Frissell, Hakim Bey, Eric Hughes, and Other Well-Known Cypherpunks and fellow-travelers in print, there's an interesting collection isbn://0-262-62151-7 mitpress.mit.edu 2001 Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias edited by Peter Ludlow On 11/23/2001 - 20:44, Matthew Gaylor wrote: [Note from Matt: I made a small wager in palladium that Vinge's True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier would be available to order prior to Jan. 1, 2002 with a well known Cypherpunk. And I won. Acct# 101893.] At 3:03 AM -0700 8/13/01, Well known Cypherpunk wrote: Subject: Re: BTW- I'll bet you... OK - Done deal, if you'll accept the modification that it be orderable and shippable by Amazon or other on-line bookstore within a week after that. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312862075/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/ 103-1236763-4454202 True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier by Vernor Vinge, James Frenkel (Editor) List Price: $14.95 Our Price: $11.96 You Save: $2.99 (20%) This item will be published in December 2001. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives. See larger photo This item qualifies for free shipping on orders over $99! Click for details Great Buy Buy True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Fron... with The Collected Stories of Vernor Vinge today! Total List Price: $42.90 Buy Together Today: $31.52 You Save: $11.38 Paperback - 384 pages (December 2001) Tor Books; ISBN: 0312862075 Amazon.com Sales Rank: 28,271 X-Authenticated-User: idiom
Re: Calif's online birth records questioned (ID, privacy, etc)
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Re: R.I.P. Cypherpunks
Once the online haunt of top cryptographers, the Cypherpunks list was characterized by its mix of revolutionary politics and advanced mathematics. This week, a founder pronounced it dead and buried Years ago, John Gilmore pre-emptively tried to kill the Cypherunks list by first attempting to censor it, and then giving everyone very short notice that he would cease carrying the list at Toad. When the list became even more popular, and distributed, John Gilmore kept his node running, despite the fact it wasn't connected to any of the other nodes, propagated huge amounts of spam, and wasn't officially part of the new system. Now that years have gone by since John Gilmore has made any meaningful contribution to the Cypherpunks list, he sends out an official announcement that Toad, which should have stopped carrying Cypherpunks a long time ago, and isn't really even a legitimate node in the new scheme of distribution, will now cease carrying Cypherpunks traffic. This is spun by a clueless ReportWhore into a story that a Founder of Cypherpunks has officially announced its demise. Vulis had a nickname for Gilmore. It began with a C. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
Re: Moving beyond Reputation--the Market View of Reality
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 03:05:18PM -0800, Tim May wrote: For many years some of us have argued strongly for reputation as a core concept. Someone, perhaps even one of our own, even coined the phrase reputation capital. Reputation is an easily understandable concept which explains a lot about how imperfect protocols in the real world nevertheless work. I won't go into what reputation is, even as defined by folks like us. But there are many aspects of reputation which lead to problems: 1. The assumption that an agent or actor possesses a reputation. A kind of scalar number attached to a person, a bank, an institution, or even a nym. But there is a scalar number attached to a person which deserves the name reputation capital, namely his own judgement of what his reputation is worth. The idea of reputation capital solves an important problem: How do we prevent nyms from doing bad things, disappearing, and coming back under a different nym? If a nym has a positive reputation capital, then disappearing is costly, so that provides a disincentive to do bad things. 2. When in fact different people have different assessments of some agent's reputation. Thus suggesting strongly that reputation is not something attached as simply as above. Yes, that's why we should distinguish between reputation and reputation capital. 3. All of the nonsense about how Alice's reputation has been harmed, deriving from the faulty notion of this scalar property attached to Alice. But Alice's reputation capital has been harmed is not nonsense. That just means Alice thinks her reputation is now worth less than before. Aren't we stuck with reputation? No, a broader ontology of objects and beliefs about them is a better way to go. The reputation of the dollar is related to my belief, and the belief of billions of others around the planet, that for whatever reason a piece of paper with the right markings on it will in fact be accepted by billions of others, by millions of small banks and moneychangers, and even by the U.S. Government. And the related belief that loans, IOUs, promissory notes, bonds, and numerous other instruments denominated in these dollars will very likely be accepted or exchanged, blah blah, by millions or billions of other actors. Such is not the case with Monopoly money or even with E-gold. Thus, what is the reputation of the dollar? Is it because of foolproof anti-forgery measures? Is it because of the laws of the U.S.? Etc.? No, it is a kind of collective hallucination. There are lots of situations where Alice does X only because she expects Bob to do Y, and Bob does Y only because he expects Alice to do X. Money is an example of this, and so are virtually all other social phenomena. I would call this collective reality, not collective hallucination. Before James Donald freaks out and cites Objectivist arguments that Some Things Are Real, etc., let me point out that collective hallucination is mostly a cute phrase. In actuality, our perception of reality is more than just an opium dream. Empiricism, falsifiability, Popper, all that good stuff. But our monetary system is vastly less provably real than the world of atoms and stars is. Because money is fundamentally about bets on the future: will something be exchanged for something else, will governments support what they print, what will the dollar be worth in 5 years, etc. I don't see why our monetary system is less provably real than the world of atoms and stars. Every proton in an atom can spontaneously decay. Everyone in the world can spontaneously decide to stop accepting US dollars as payment. It's all a matter of probabilities. All crypto is economics. All money is based on belief. All a matter of betting, of risk/benefit analysis. Related concepts, of course. All crypto is economics. Unfortunately the economics doesn't seem to favor much of the more advanced crypto we're interested in. Just to cite one example, there are a small number of people who value privacy very highly, and a larger number of people who value privacy somewhat. But there's no way to charge them different prices to provide the same untraceable communcation services to them. Since you need a large number of users to provide cover traffic, you have to charge a low price for everyone, and that doesn't seems to be a profitable business. Anonymous ecash seems to have this problem, plus many more. I think we may have been mislead by the extremely favorable economics of basic crypto (i.e. exponential attack/defense cost ratios for encryption and authentication) into thinking that all crypto have favorable economics. Even slightly flawed protocols still work, given the right embeddings in other systems. (For example, a common flaw cited with remailers is that if there is not enough cover traffic, traceability still exists. But exactly the same flaw exists with money: try getting
fuel injected firearm
Have any of the shootingpunks on the list heard of constructing a firearm from something akin to a internal combustion chamber?
Re: fuel injected firearm
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the shootingpunks on the list heard of constructing a firearm from something akin to a internal combustion chamber? Stanley G. Weinbaum A Martian Odyssey Tweel, where are you? -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Moving beyond Reputation--the Market View of Reality
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Wei Dai wrote: But there is a scalar number attached to a person which deserves the name reputation capital, namely his own judgement of what his reputation is worth. What's your number? People don't think of themselves as a '5'. Even Hitler thought he was the good guy in the fight. 'good', 'bad', etc. are most certainly NOT scalar. The idea of reputation capital solves an important problem It solves nothing, it adds a redundent factor that does nothing but mislead. -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
CNN.com - Bush defends tribunals, saying 'we're at war' - November 29, 2001
Bush is full of shit. http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/11/29/gen.war.against.terror/index.html -- -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Slashdot | Seeking Current Info on Linux Encrypted FS?
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Re: fuel injected firearm
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 04:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the shootingpunks on the list heard of constructing a firearm from something akin to a internal combustion chamber? HK was a prime contractor on the caseless ammunition system being considered for a bullpup rifle to replace the .223 variants. Fired three flechette-like projectiles, no case. (Cases add weight, and in principle one could dispense with them.) In principle one could also do what you are suggesting, by adding the incendiary ingredient, the oxiding ingredient, and the projectile all separately. I don't see a lot of advantages to this, as then running out of any one of the three means the remaining items are useless deadweight. Makes more sense to combine the three, whether in a conventional cartridge or in the caseless system. That guarantees all three are in equal supply, and in the right stoichiometric ratio, and also allows for better quality control (that is, cartridge makers spend a lot of effort fine-tuning the geometries and mixes). If you mean something that runs on fairly conventional fuel, such as diesel or gasoline or alcohol, t's unlikely that enough muzzle velocity will be achievable in a reasonable-length barrel. I did see a GyroJet pistol once. A rocket pistol, firing little rockets. Early 60s. Very expensive. And suffered from the fact that each little rocket had to accelerate up to speed. Lots of chance for the target to move. Chief advantage was next to no recoil. Which is why rocket designs tend to be used with man-fired heavier pieces, e.g., RPGs, Redeyes, Stingers, etc. --Tim May A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship. --Alexander Fraser Tyler
TheBostonChannel.com - Helen Thomas - It's The People's White House
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Re: CDR: Re: fuel injected firearm
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote: If you mean something that runs on fairly conventional fuel, such as diesel or gasoline or alcohol, t's unlikely that enough muzzle velocity will be achievable in a reasonable-length barrel. See srl.org. In particular, the natural gas gun they used in the 97 show here in Austin. It certainly didn't have a problem blowing the tops of the trees out several hundred yards away (and that was with the slug of air it ejected - as it moved through the smoke you could see the donut ring clearly). -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Order Now: True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier
Really-From - Well Known Cypherpunk I'd be happy to be wrong here, but the bet ain't over till the fat lady ships the books. Amazon's promised to accept orders before, and while we're closer to the promised this time for sure date than I've seen in the past, it's still just a promise. FWIW, I've had it on order from Amazon for over 2 years. Checking today, delivery is still unknown.
Re: fuel injected firearm
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:30:20 -0800, Eric Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 04:32:51PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the shootingpunks on the list heard of constructing a firearm from something akin to a internal combustion chamber? You can buy one at Home Depot! It's called a cordless nailer. Powered by fuel cells which are probably propane. The Porter-Cable Bammer is one model. I'll check into it. My thought was to create a very high rate of fire, simple and effective full auto weapon for caseless ammo.
Re: Moving beyond Reputation--the Market View of Reality
On 29 Nov 2001, at 16:11, Wei Dai wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 03:05:18PM -0800, Tim May wrote: But there is a scalar number attached to a person which deserves the name reputation capital, namely his own judgement of what his reputation is worth. Even this is not a scalar. Since reputation cannot be bought and sold, the idea that it is worth a specific well defined amount is false. The idea of reputation capital solves an important problem: How do we prevent nyms from doing bad things, disappearing, and coming back under a different nym? If a nym has a positive reputation capital, then disappearing is costly, so that provides a disincentive to do bad things. Claiming you have a concept called reputation capital doen't really solve the problem, it just moves it back a step, leading to questions like how does one aquire/lose reputation capital, how does one discover another's reputation, how does one ensure that a party violating an agreement actually will lose reputation capital, and so on. These questions can be answered, at least sometimes, but usually answering them will make it clear that reputation capital isn't a single number. The idea that a party to a transaction will lose more in reputation capital by failing to honor his obligations than he will gain is a very useful concept. The idea that a nym has a fixed amount of reputation capital and will lose it all with a single failure to comply might be useful in certain simplified models, but it doesn't accurately reflect most real world situations. 2. When in fact different people have different assessments of some agent's reputation. Thus suggesting strongly that reputation is not something attached as simply as above. Yes, that's why we should distinguish between reputation and reputation capital. well, maybe. But if we define reputation capital the way you did (the value one places on one's own reputation) then it's important to be aware that one can only know the value of one's own reputation capital. 3. All of the nonsense about how Alice's reputation has been harmed, deriving from the faulty notion of this scalar property attached to Alice. But Alice's reputation capital has been harmed is not nonsense. That just means Alice thinks her reputation is now worth less than before. right. Aren't we stuck with reputation? No, a broader ontology of objects and beliefs about them is a better way to go. The reputation of the dollar is related to my belief, and the belief of billions of others around the planet, that for whatever reason a piece of paper with the right markings on it will in fact be accepted by billions of others, by millions of small banks and moneychangers, and even by the U.S. Government. And the related belief that loans, IOUs, promissory notes, bonds, and numerous other instruments denominated in these dollars will very likely be accepted or exchanged, blah blah, by millions or billions of other actors. Such is not the case with Monopoly money or even with E-gold. Thus, what is the reputation of the dollar? Is it because of foolproof anti-forgery measures? Is it because of the laws of the U.S.? Etc.? No, it is a kind of collective hallucination. There are lots of situations where Alice does X only because she expects Bob to do Y, and Bob does Y only because he expects Alice to do X. Money is an example of this, and so are virtually all other social phenomena. I would call this collective reality, not collective hallucination. So would I, but this is just a disagreement over the terminolgy, not the concepts. I don't see why our monetary system is less provably real than the world of atoms and stars. Every proton in an atom can spontaneously decay. Everyone in the world can spontaneously decide to stop accepting US dollars as payment. It's all a matter of probabilities. I think you're going way too far. Proton decay has never been observed in the real world, and people have looked for it really hard. Whereas a whole lot of governments (including the US government) have attempted to solve their debt problems by printing a lot of paper currency, devaluing the existing currency in the process. Since you need a large number of users to provide cover traffic, you have to charge a low price for everyone, and that doesn't seems to be a profitable business. I'm not convinced that you do. As I've said before, there are two fundamentally different ways of maintaining anonymity with some sort of digital bearer certificate 1) you can ensure the bank can't identify the certifcates as the ones you bought when they're cashed in or 2) you can see to it that the bank doesn't know who you are when you buy the certificates in the first place. Number 2 still seems more natural to me. George
History Lesson
It was the first day of school and a new student namedSuzuki, the son of a Japanese businessman living in the USA, entered the fourth grade.The teacher said, "Let's begin by reviewing some Americanhistory.* Who said, 'Give me Liberty, or give me Death'?"She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Suzuki, who had hishand up. "Patrick Henry, 1775," he said."Very good!* Who said 'Government of the people, by thepeople, and for the people, shall not perish from the earth'?"Again, no response except from Suzuki:"Abraham Lincoln, 1863?," said a tentative Suzuki.The teacher snapped at the room full of children, "Class,you should be ashamed.* Suzuki, who is new to our country, knows more about its history* than you do."She heard a loud whisper: "Fuck the Japanese.""Who said that?", she demanded.Suzuki put his hand up again. "Lee Iacocca, 1982," hereplied.At that point, a student in the back said, "I'm gonna puke."The teacher glared at the class. "All right, who said that?"And again, Suzuki answers, "George Bush to the JapanesePrime Minister, 1991."Now furious, another student yells, "Oh yeah? Suck this!"Suzuki jumps out of his chair waving his hand and shouts tothe teacher, "Bill Clinton!* Bill Clinton!* To Monica Lewinsky, 1997!"Now with almost a mob hysteria taking over the classroomsomeone said,"You little shit! If you say anything else I willpersonally have you killed."Suzuki frantically yells at the top of his voice: "GaryCondit to Chandra Levy, 2001!" CJ Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://profiles.yahoo.com/sonofgomez709http://members.w-link.net/~sog/INDEX.HTMICQ 138724628"The True Story Of The InterNet"The Xenix ChainSaw Massacrehttp://www.technopagan.org/politics/xenix/WebWorld The Mythical Circle Of Eunuchshttp://www.technopagan.org/politics/webworld/ InfoWar: Final Frontier Of The Digital rEvolutionhttp://www.technopagan.org/politics/infowarriors/Space Aliens Hide My Drugshttp://www.technopagan.org/politics/sahmd/
Re: True Names is out
At 6:16 PM -0500 11/29/01, Declan McCullagh wrote: Arrived in the mail today, trade paperback, bah, with Tim's essay as the second chapter. -Declan At 9:59 PM -0800 11/25/01, Lucky Green wrote: The page at Amazon. COM claims that the book in question will ship in December of this year. I seem to recall having read announcements in years past that the book would ship in the respective years. Methinks that a mere claim of a future ship date in 2001 may be considered insufficient proof that the condition of the wager has been met by at least one of the parties to the wager. Although my bet wasn't with Lucky (proving that he is indeed Lucky) it does appear that the book is in print and for my wager to be successful it must be orderable and shippable by Amazon or other on-line bookstore within a week after Jan. 1, 2002. So methinks my wager was a good one, unless Lucky wishes to wager it otherwise? Regards, Matt- ** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **
Re: Rumors of the death of Cypherpunks are greatly exaggerated
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, David Honig wrote: Um, Jim, despite the slump, there still plenty of free lowbrow sites for Joe Random to start a mailing list for anything, so Tim's financial status is irrelevent. But Joe Random isn't a Cypherpunks Leader... -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Moving beyond Reputation--the Market View of Reality
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, David Honig wrote: And Hitler probably valued his reputation. So what? Hitler didn't value his reputation, he was Hitler. What he did was justified. He was an angel among men. There's a moral in there if you look for it. -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: fuel injected firearm
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Eric Murray wrote: You can buy one at Home Depot! It's called a cordless nailer. Powered by fuel cells which are probably propane. The Porter-Cable Bammer is one model. Too cool...I love (pseudo/light regulation) free market economics :) How does it go? The street finds its own uses for technology. W. Gibson ps What kind of bookstore would have books about von Mises' life and economic philosophy in their economic section but wouldn't actually carry any of his work, what's up with that...Barnes Nobles? -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
More damage to liberty than I expected.
-- Some time ago I said that a short victorious war in a place far away, fought by volunteers, would not do too much damage to liberty. And when victory was well in hand, they shut down not merely havenco, but the entire internet access of Somalia, causing very serious damage to the cypherpunk agenda. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG ilM2NBMZSxgRlYUxLl2tjKbAWBKaetmVDjJLrkHb 4Qp/+5OCH1rc3D5TChs3SNEQa/RDoDehZWrm7Z9i5
Re: CDR: Re: Rumors of the death of Cypherpunks are greatly exaggerated
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, David Honig wrote: Um, Jim, despite the slump, there still plenty of free lowbrow sites for Joe Random to start a mailing list for anything, so Tim's financial status is irrelevent. But Joe Random isn't a Cypherpunks Leader... Oh my god! The Cypherpunks have a *leader*? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: in praise of gold
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Petro wrote: Who was she? It's nice to see you're not bitter ;-/ Why do you assume it was a she? :) -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: CDR: More damage to liberty than I expected.
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And when victory was well in hand, they shut down not merely havenco, Looks OK to me: Tracing route to havenco.com [207.106.3.14] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms r01.fl.datapacket.net [208.195.14.225] 2 10 ms10 ms10 ms loopback0.gw8.orl1.alter.net [137.39.8.117] 320 ms40 ms20 ms 165.at-1-0-0.xr1.atl1.alter.net [152.63.86.170] 410 ms20 ms20 ms 100.at-1-0-0.tr1.atl1.alter.net [146.188.232.82] 520 ms31 ms30 ms 109.at-5-0-0.tr1.dca6.alter.net [146.188.141.58] 630 ms30 ms30 ms 0.so-4-0-0.xr1.dca6.alter.net [152.63.11.102] 730 ms30 ms30 ms 0.so-1-3-0.xl1.dca6.alter.net [152.63.35.114] 830 ms31 ms30 ms pos6-0.br3.dca6.alter.net [152.63.38.117] 930 ms30 ms40 ms 204.255.174.74 1030 ms60 ms31 ms mae-east-gsr.dc-core.netaxs.net [207.106.31.26] 11 120 ms 280 ms 310 ms mae-east.dc-core.netaxs.net [207.106.31.29] 1230 ms30 ms40 ms dc-l3.dc-core.fddi0-0-100m.netaxs.net [207.106.127.102] 1340 ms40 ms40 ms phl-l3.phl-core.h3-0-45m.netaxs.net [207.106.127.129] 1430 ms30 ms40 ms l3-core1-oc3.sdfc.phl.netaxs.net [207.106.3.246] 1560 ms41 ms40 ms core1-cnsh-gige-1.cnsh.phl.netaxs.net [207.106.0.10] 1640 ms40 ms40 ms ns1.havenco.com [207.106.3.14] Trace complete. The www site is up too. Possibly you misunderstood their temporary outage? --digsig James A. Donald -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: fuel injected firearm
RE: Metalstorm.As they can be made e-specific to one owner,I think we should all be able to have a liscenced version along with stingers in case rouge airliners get loose in our skies. An acquaintance has come up with what he thinks is a novel and practical design for a liquid propellent rocket engine. Although his initial tests were not conclusive he thinks he can build an under 50 lb LOX-Propane rocket which can put 20 lbs or more into LEO. See http://www.halfwaytoanywhere.com/rocket/ Interestingly, he found that ordinary plastic quart size Coke bottles (esp. the rounded bottom types often capped with a black base) were very flexible at LOX temperatures and were able to withstand enough pressure to make them practical as fuel and oxidizer tanks. The ISP is greater than 300 and Mass Ratio even more impressive. If he can get some funding an amateur single-stage to orbit is a very real possibility. It could also have a variety of commercial and military uses ;-)
Re: Rumors of the death of Cypherpunks are greatly exaggerated
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Joe Random isn't a Cypherpunks Leader... Oh my god! The Cypherpunks have a *leader*? That was my feeling as well...:) -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Hey HavenCo!!! (was Re: CDR: More damage to...)
Think they'd host a CDR node? -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
US Pat. No. 6,219,185: Large aperture diffractive space telescope
[Intended for astronomical and continuous sub-meter earth surveillance.] A large (10's of meters) aperture space telescope including two separate spacecraft--an optical primary objective lens functioning as a magnifying glass and an optical secondary functioning as an eyepiece. The spacecraft are spaced up to several kilometers apart with the eyepiece directly behind the magnifying glass aiming at an intended target with their relative orientation determining the optical axis of the telescope and hence the targets being observed. The objective lens includes a very large-aperture, very-thin-membrane, diffractive lens, e.g., a Fresnel lens, which intercepts incoming light over its full aperture and focuses it towards the eyepiece. The eyepiece has a much smaller, meter-scale aperture and is designed to move along the focal surface of the objective lens, gathering up the incoming light and converting it to high quality images. The positions of the two space craft are controlled both to maintain a good optical focus and to point at desired targets ! which may be either earth bound or celestial.
libertarian vs. socialist
...libertarian vs. socialist ..From Tims epistle to the faithful.9-11 certainly shook a few authoritarians out of the woodpile in both the libertarian and the socialist scenes.Nasty stuff. What happened to libertarian socialist? An R.Crumb cartoon for the noughties,Im a libertarian socialist! http://world.std.com/~mhuben/cypher.html Assassination Politics Convicted tax evader Jim Bell proposes a system of anonymous ecash awards for the murder of aggressors, such as IRS agents. See also Crypto-Convict Won't Recant. What he misses is that his system, if tolerated, would merely force government to operate secretly rather than openly. They can do that?
Robot Group - RoboFest 1 - 1989
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Re: Moving beyond Reputation--the Market View of Reality
-- On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Wei Dai wrote: But there is a scalar number attached to a person which deserves the name reputation capital, namely his own judgement of what his reputation is worth. On 29 Nov 2001, at 18:41, Jim Choate wrote: People don't think of themselves as a '5'. Even Hitler thought he was the good guy in the fight. He was, however, well aware of that everyone else was so deluded as to think otherwise. Thus he would correctly value his reputation capital as near zero. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG s07NDk+HLPwQqk0aT0IBcIx5EQfImpm5mb5DUKq 4lvjOPV14Sjf0RQg42giSGp3BgMoPgeanqdeb+rKy
Re: Hey HavenCo!!! (was Re: CDR: More damage to...)
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: Think they'd host a CDR node? Is there a *need* for another CDR node? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: libertarian vs. socialist
Fair Warning: I never, that I recall, responded to some of the inanities here that got a few people prosecuted. I think that this save me from being subpoenaed. I will respond below to the mattd rainman because I choose to. And if it results in a subpoena for me to fly to Australia for some trial, I will of course ignore it. On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 10:42 PM, mattd wrote: ...libertarian vs. socialist ..From Tims epistle to the faithful.9-11 certainly shook a few authoritarians out of the woodpile in both the libertarian and the socialist scenes.Nasty stuff. What happened to libertarian socialist? An R.Crumb cartoon for the noughties,Im a libertarian socialist! I have no idea who you really are, mattd, except that I hear you deface McDonald's restaurants and may or may not be under indictment or whatever by the Australian cops. Your calls to have George Bush Jr. killed have likely drawn interest from the polizei. From your posts here, you look to have the same mental state that C.J. Parker had/has, and that maybe other have. To wit: fragmented sentences, discombobulated logic, weird juxtapositions of words. I'm beginning to think there's a Rainman Syndrome at work. But in the event that you are not too addled to think straight, the very idea of a libertarian socialist is an oxymoron. It doesn't compute. Sure, we are libertarian socialists in a sense within our families or circles of friends, in a manner of speaking, but we are not coerced by external agents to be nice, or socialist, to our family and friends. Therein lies the reason why libertarian socialist is such an oxymoron. If you think about this in a lucid period, you will realize why this is so. --Tim May That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. --Samuel Adams
cryptoheaven.com (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: 28 Nov 2001 09:37:28 -0800 From: Sidney Markowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cryptography Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cryptoheaven.com I haven't seen mention of this on the mailing list and it is new enough that it doesn't show up in a google search as of the moment I am typing this. Looking at http://www.cryptoheaven.com it appears they provide anonymous encrypted services including email, instant messaging (chat), and server based file storage. Their client code is open source Java. They appear to use standard algorithms. They are based in Canada. The services are free at small volumes (supposedly suitable for ordinary personal use) and for fee at higher volumes. I only know what I see on their website. Has anyone else heard of these people? -- sidney [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hirstory lessons
mattd wrote: ...I will personally have you killed. Whoever 'son of gomez' is they are clearly sexist and dangerous.Operation soft drill will pledge 1$ to have their messages here permanently expunged.We mean it Maan! Get a sense of humor, you need one.
Re: CDR: Re: in praise of gold
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Petro wrote: On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 07:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Faustine wrote: Not all women are golddiggers. They're called 'old maids'. ALL women who are interested in a 'relationship' are 'golddiggers' in the sense they want to 'change' the other party. Nothing like a good across the board generalization, huh Jim? Well, I hate to be in the position of defending Jimbo, but he's right--in a sense, but not just about women. Where does the desire for a relationship translate into the desire to change the other party? I'd be willing to bet (should there be a way of proving it to my satisfaction) that in every relationship, one party would like to change AT LEAST 2 things about the other party. Then I guess we're down the minutae of what is a relationship, and what is change... Of course, this then makes every person who gets into any kind of relationship a gold digger. The American colloquialism Golddigger != Relationship participant who would like to effect changes in the other engaging party(s). The Goldigger term commonly refers to a woman who marries or engages in highly personal (not _necessarily_ sexual, but the inference is a common one) long term relationships for the accrual of cash and property, rather than any actual interest in the partner(s). Think long-term hookers. Think Mary Elizabeth Terranson :-) Who was she? It's nice to see you're not bitter ;-/ Why do you assume it was a she? chuckles Because Jim's comment specifically referred to women. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: fuel injected firearm
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:30:20 -0800, Eric Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 04:32:51PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the shootingpunks on the list heard of constructing a firearm from something akin to a internal combustion chamber? You can buy one at Home Depot! It's called a cordless nailer. Powered by fuel cells which are probably propane. The Porter-Cable Bammer is one model. I'll check into it. My thought was to create a very high rate of fire, simple and effective full auto weapon for caseless ammo. In the US, at the federal level and at most of the state levels, I believe this would qualify as a firearm, as the expansion of hot gasses are responsible for forward motion of a projectile. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: hirstory lessons
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, CDR Anonymizer wrote: mattd wrote: ...I will personally have you killed. Whoever 'son of gomez' is they are clearly sexist and dangerous.Operation soft drill will pledge 1$ to have their messages here permanently expunged.We mean it Maan! Get a sense of humor, you need one. Naw, he's just low on his stelazine scrip. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: inet-one name servers/domain down? (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:58:01 -0800 (PST) From: Guan Sin Ong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: inet-one name servers/domain down? Thanks for bringing the issue up. However, it seems an intermittent problem at your end, that I cannot detect the same situation as you all had described. Let me know if it still persists. Perhaps supply me more details. I suspect it could be my service provider's fault. I shall start monitoring its service quality closely now. Regards, GS --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:43:29 -0600 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CDR: CP archive problem? According to the registry, their record was modified yesterday (24 November). In addition, I am unable to reach either of their authoritative name servers - their upstream may in fact be off the air completely. With the recent change in their record, it is possible they made changes to their dns server addresses, and the new addressed were botched in the process (something I went through several weeks ago - it appears to be quite difficult to get the new registrars to properly move dns hosts). I guess the next step would be email to their admins, and possibly a NANOG request... On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Steve Schear wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:23:30 -0800 From: Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: CP archive problem? I've been trying to access http://www.inet-one.com for two days and have getting DNS errors. Anyone else on @home with the same trouble? Might be a good time to switch to alternate root servers. steve -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1
Re: HDCP break and DMCA
I can't remember what the exact deal was with Kinko (and they were the one being sued), but the net effect was that people are being a lot more careful. Here, in fact, Kinko totally moved out of the student/university area, went off to suburbia, and I see no signs anymore at their new site about student packets. Plenty of other, no-name copy shops to fill the gap. Petro wrote: On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 10:31 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: But as I said, most professors are being much more careful about getting permission beforehand and most copy places are being more careful about what they sell. If I remember the results correctly, Kinko's keeps track of what they copy and sends the publishers a certain amount. -- Remember, half-measures can be very effective if all you deal with are half-wits.--Chris Klein -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
