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Re: More on remailers.

2001-12-22 Thread Adam Shostack

On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 01:21:27PM -0800, Len Sassaman wrote:
| 
| In conclusion, I leave you with a question: if remailer users are reduced
| to a small number of high-paying remailer customers for whom anonymity is
| not a game, but a matter of life or death, could a mix-net be made to
| provide any sufficient degree of security? "No" is the easy answer. Say
| yes, and prove it.

No.  If your anonymity set is small, then using the system calls
attention to you, and your adversary can simply attack all the users
with physical layer attacks (bugged keyboards, video cameras in
ceilings, tempest, etc.).  Further, if the user set is small you're
probably more concerned with unobservability than with unlinkability
or untracability.

Adam


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Re: Tim May on the end of a rope.

2001-12-22 Thread jamesd

--
James A. Donald:
> > (Except, of course, by your peculiar use of the word 
> > anarchist", whereby an anarchist is someone who supports 
> > an all powerful state that rules  by terror, similar to 
> > that which the anarchists of Catalonia wound up 
> > implementing.)

mattd
> That is a filthy lie.Last week I urged cypherpunks to 
> compare and contrast the noam chomsky article,"Objectivity 
> and liberal scholarship."with the material jamesd has on 
> display at his website.

You cite Chomsky as evidence for the truthfullness of 
Chomsky.

Now if you yourself had looked up some of his citations, and 
cited them as evidence for the truthfullness of Chomsky, then 
that would be an argument.

> No anarchist supports a powerful,or indeed,any state

Yet you cite (as evidence that I am a liar) Ian McKay's 
article on the Catalonian anarchists, in which he concedes 
that the anarchists wound up creating what most people would 
call a state, indeed a terrorist dictatorship, but argues 
that I am lying in that such a state was a good thing, and 
run by nice people, deeply concerned for the welfare of the 
masses

>.Jim Bell seems to be the closest thing to a trad anarchist
> I've seen on this site

What you are calling traditional anarchists were not 
"traditional" until 1938.  When anarcho socialists found 
themselves implementing socialism in only possible form, in 
the form of a terrorist state, some recoiled, and some 
redefined anarchy to mean rule by a terror state, rule 
unrestricted by law and based on force, reinterpreting their 
pre 1936 positions in the light of the new post 1938 
position.

>.The anarcho-capitalists here are fakes,phonies and
> frauds that are running but they cant hide,I can see the 
> whites of their eyes.Calling ted turner socialist is not 
> peculiar!?

Ted Turner calls himself socialist.  His network used to emit
commie propaganda with great regularity, though since Fox
news started in competition, they have laid off the commie 
propaganda.

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Re: Stegdetect 0.4 released and results from USENET search available (fwd)

2001-12-22 Thread Jim Choate


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 09:48:44 -0500
From: Niels Provos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Harald Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Stegdetect 0.4 released and results from USENET search available 

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harald Koch writes:
>How many images are posted to usenet every *day*, never mind the sheer
>number of images stored on webservers everywhere. IANAS, but a mere one
>million messages is too small a sample set to be statistically
>significant.
Herald,

thank you for the kind consideration of our work.

How many images are posted to Usenet every day? I'd say around 50,000
a day, including GIF images and other image file types that we did not
look at [1].

Which USENET archive that stores a full feed from the time before
steganography suddenly hit the limelight of the press would you use?
We had access to a couple of Terra bytes accounting for a few months
of Usenet activity.  Thats what we looked at.

You might have heard that Usenet traffic is mostly for binary data.
That is correct but most of the binary traffic is not in images [2].

If you have any suggestions on how to increase the scope of our
analysis, I would be glad to hear them.  Alternatively, you might
conduct a study yourself as I just released most of my tools.  It
would be interesting to see something more "statistically significant" ;)

Regards,
  Niels Provos.

[1] http://www.newsadmin.com/cgi-bin/msgsummary
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Fwd: FCC Bites Kevin

2001-12-22 Thread Steve Schear

>>From: someone
>>To: another list
>>Subject: FCC Bites Kevin
>>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:10:20 -0800
>>MIME-Version: 1.0
>>
>>Famed hacker Kevin Mitnick is also General Class radio amateur N6NHG. In 
>>December 1999 he applied to renew his ham license, but today the FCC 
>>designated the application for hearing, to determine whether he has the 
>>requisite character to remain a licensee. Mitnick or his attorney will 
>>have to appear before an administrative law judge (ALJ) if he wants to 
>>save the license.
>>
>>ALJ hearings in the amateur service are rare. They normally are reserved 
>>for flagrant cases. The FCC does not allege that Mitnick misused his ham 
>>license; it was enough that he was convicted of felonies.
>>
>>The hearing designation order (FCC 01-359, Docket WT 01-344) cites a 
>>couple of other high-profile ham license revocation cases, including Herb 
>>Schoenbohm, an FCC critic from the US Virgin Islands who reputedly 
>>misused telephone calling cards; and L.D. Brewer, a radio pirate and 
>>mail-order transmitter dealer (http://www.ldbrewer.com).
>>
>>The FCC is extremely tenacious in these cases and I think there is little 
>>chance that Kevin will retain his license.

steve




CNN.com - Pentagon to use new bomb against Afghan caves - December 22, 2001

2001-12-22 Thread Jim Choate

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/12/22/ret.new.bomb.ap/index.html
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Re: book

2001-12-22 Thread Steve Thompson


Quoting Michael Motyka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Rather than making a choice and following any single path we are
> following two concurrent and divergent paths and the energy level is
> increasing. We are headed for a period of escalation. It's definitely a
> new 'War on Drugs' scenario, just as dangerous, just as futile and just
> as sustainable.

And the _only_ people who benefit are the power-mongers in government, the
military, and big-business.  Odd, that.


Regards,

Steve

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Re: America Psycho

2001-12-22 Thread Steve Thompson


Quoting mattd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> COURT-KNAPPING In America, more than 1,200 people have so far been held in 

To paraphrase Mr. May, you're worse than Choate.


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Anarchist Q+A.Are anarcho-capitalists part of the anarchist movement?

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

ANARCHIST QUESTION AND ANSWER
Q. Are anarcho-capitalists part of the anarchist movement?
A. Anarcho-capitalism, a philosophy taken up by the Libertarian wing of the
New Right in the United States, has nothing to do with anarchism.
Capitalist societies do not need the State to survive, but they do need
privatised defence forces to survive. When you have one group of people
amassing wealth (anarcho-capitalists) and another group working to amass
that wealth for them, you have all the ingredients that are needed to create
private armies. These armies are needed to protect the assets of those
people who use other people's labor to amass their wealth.
The twentieth century reformist state evolved as a direct consequence of the
rising levels of violence that were occurring between those who produced
wealth and those who amassed it. A limited state apparatus, the type that
anarcho-capitalists need to survive, has limited functions, it protects
those with power and wealth and does not interfere when those who amass
wealth exploits those who make wealth for them.
The reformist state has evolved to protect those with power and wealth from
violence by limiting their ability (not removing their ability) to exploit
those who make wealth for them. Anarchism cannot exist without people
having both the power to determine their own affairs, as well as having
access to the common wealth. You can make all the decisions you like, but
if you don't have access to the resources to make those decisions a reality,
having the power to make decisions doesn't mean much.
Anarcho-capitalists believe in and accept inequalities in wealth. They want
to create a society where they can amass all the wealth they like, without
having to worry about a state apparatus, setting limits on the methods they
use to acquire that wealth. They want to replace the reformist state with
private armies that they control, that's why they want to break the power of
the centralized State. They have no interest in creating societies that
hold wealth in common and that allow the people involved in a decision to
make that decision.




Anarchists and old lace.

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

TRANSPORT DREAMING
I don't want to give Mr. Bob Annells, the Executive Chairman of Connex,
nightmares, but his statement on the front page of the Age (Dec 11) that
transport operators in Melbourne face entrenched cultural factors that
underpin fare evasion that include everyone from anarchists to little old
ladies. "We have everything from the anarchists who believe they are
bringing down the capitalist system by riding for free, to the little old
ladies, who say they are making a social protest about privitisation and the
removal of tram conductors" , is much closer to the mark, than he realises.
Some of the most persistent critics of the privitisation of public
transport, are little old ladies, who are part of Melbourne's anarchist
community. What gives them that fire in the belly that sustains their
campaigns against corporations like Connex, is their disgust at the type of
society Australia has become.
They are sick and tired of listening to trans-national corporations that pay
minimal tax call on the public, to subsidise their losses, while they're
happy to transfer their profits to their head offices overseas. They're
sick and tired of seeing workers taking the brunt of the corporate cost
cutting exercises and commuters being treated as criminals. They're sick
and tired of seeing the run down of an essential public service, the public
transport system, but most importantly of all, they are sick and tired of
seeing lame duck governments that theoretically represent the people
representing the interests of the Corporate Sector.
If Mr. Annells is so concerned about the lack of Connex's ability to make a
profit, because of the entrenched cultural factors surrounding fare evasion
in Melbourne, why doesn't he do all of us a favour and give the half of
Melbourne's train network that Connex runs, back to the State government.
If the State government is serious about representing the interests of the
people of Victoria, not the Corporate Sector, why don't they all do
Victorian's a favour and make public transport free in this State? The
social, cultural, economic and environmental benefits of such an audacious
move on the part of the State government, would far outweigh the cost to the
State. Just in case the Peter Batchelors of the world throw up their hands
in horror and say, "the State government doesn't have the money for such a
move." The money can be found by removing corporate subsides and by placing
a levy on every motor vehicle and every ratable property in the State. Any
short term political resistance to such a move, would be far outweighed by
the long-term benefits to the Victorian community.
And then free ISPs please,TIA.proffr1.




America Psycho

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

COURT-KNAPPING In America, more than 1,200 people have so far been held in 
connection with the attacks on September 11th - most because of the colour 
of their skin. The majority of those arrested have nothing to do with 
terrorism, but have been jailed for minor visa violations that normally 
would be ignored. Take Ali Al-Maqtari, a Yemeni immigrant who spent eight 
weeks in jail. Al-Maqtari told the Senate Judiciary Committee about being 
interrogated for 12 hours, lied to by the FBI, accused of beating his wife, 
then locked up unable to contact his wife or solicitors. All because his 
wife wore a head scarf to a recruiting centre when she enlisted in the 
Army, spoke in a foreign language (French), and because soldiers found box 
cutters and New York City postcards in their car. Or what about Samir 
Khalaf, a Palestinian who worked at a gas station in Connecticut. He went 
to the hospital with chest pains on Sept. 12. People thought he was acting 
suspicious. They called the police, who called the FBI. After his emergency 
operation, the Feds took him - against doctors' advice - to jail. There he 
remained, charged with failure to get a work permit. However, he was in the 
country legally and was quickly cleared of terrorism suspicion and an 
immigration judge ruled at the beginning of October that he could go home. 
But then the Immigration and Naturalization Service wouldn't let him go 
until November. Michael Boyle, solicitor for Al-Maqtari, told the US Senate 
meeting discussing the Department of Justice actions that these aren't 
isolated incidents, but are "part of a pattern of excessive detention and 
disrespect for the rights of non-citizens." The war on terrorism has become 
a war on people - if you're the wrong colour, have the wrong views, or are 
merely in the wrong place at the wrong time, then you better watch out 
because you could potentially be the next terrorist. * Coalition Against 
the Terrorism Act c/o Haldane Society, Conway Hall, 25 Red Lion Square, 
London WC1R 4RL Tel: 0845 458 2966 http://go.to/ta2000 * Read full story of 
America's detainees on www.alternet.org




Eurorepression worst since you know when.

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

In Britain we can feel proud that we are leading the way in the race to the
bottom of the civil liberties barrel. On Monday the Anti-Terrorism, Crime
and Security Act became law - two days later eight people became the lucky
winners in the 'we've decided you're a terrorist so were locking you up
without trial' Christmas draw.

This hotch-potch of a bill includes not just internment (see SchNEWS 331),
but a whole host of civil liberty busting BLAH. As Raif Smyth from the
Coalition Against the Terror Act said "The truth is, the mandarins at the
Home Office have used the Bill as a Trojan horse to get into law all the
dodgy proposals at the bottom of their filing cabinets." In Europe, heads
of state are pushing ahead with an "anti-terrorism roadmap" with plans to
add two new databases on the Schengen Information System (SIS - see SchNEWS
312). SIS already holds files on nearly one and a half million people. One
of the new databases would cover public order and protests and lead to,
"Barring potentially dangerous persons from participating in certain
events." Such as anti capitalist protests outside international summits by
any chance? "Targetted" suspects would be tagged with an "alert" on the SIS
computer, barring them from entering the country where a protest or event
was taking place.

In the Czech Republic, a new law permits the prosecution of people
expressing sympathy for the attacks on New York, or even of those
sympathising with the sympathisers! Already one Czech journalist, Tomas
Pecina, a reporter for the Prague-based investigative journal Britske
Listy, has been arrested and charged for criticising the use of the law, on
the grounds that this makes him, too, a supporter of terrorism. Meanwhile
in Turkey, that well known human rights haven, just publishing a book by
Noam Chomsky could land Fatih Tas with a fine or spell in prison, under the
country's anti-terrorism laws. Chomsky apparently overstepped the mark when
he wrote in 'US Interventions': "the Kurds have been oppressed throughout
history... but that changed (in 1984) tens of thousands of people were
killed, two or three million had to migrate, 3,500 villages were
destroyed... an intense ethnic clean-up." So while it's ok for the Turkish
state to carry out attacking the Kurds, it's terrorism and "separatist
propaganda" to talk about it.




More Jailed Punks

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

   A - I N F O S  N E W S  S E R V I C E
 http://www.ainfos.ca/
  

3 punks from Warsaw were sentenced yesterday by Warsaw court to 3,5 years of
prison for alleged assault and robbery of 3 nazi skinheads. Fourth accused
were cleared of charges and remains free. Verdict will be appealed.
Judge gave show of total ignorance and hostility against punks, talking
about their style of dressing etc.
Sentence is very high as none of the accused were previously sentenced and
they had clear criminal record. It was clear attempt to punish them for what
they are.
soja, ABC Bialystok
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Re: Steal This Essay 1: Content Is a Pure Public Good,

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

Given a clone your own kit for an early xmas pressy Im splicing a 
rotweiller and a Shoat.Ill keep you posted.

http://www.netsertion.com/  tech ripping you off? Just add more 
tech."Property is theft"Proudon.




Slashdot | Lawrence Lessig Answers Your Questions

2001-12-22 Thread Jim Choate

http://slashdot.org/interviews/01/12/21/155221.shtml
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Slashdot | FBI, Pentagon Talk to MS about XP Hole

2001-12-22 Thread Jim Choate

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/12/22/1329253.shtml
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Re: Hillary style health plan to save US

2001-12-22 Thread anonymous


mattd wrote:

> AU has a national health scheme,I used it to have a graft on my eardrum
> several years back.Didnt cost a cent.
> There are gaps in the system such as long waiting lists and poor dental
> cover,its also under pressure from the economic
> 'rationalists' esp in the liberal party.The only reason I mention such a
> creation of the hated state is that it could  soon be a matter of life or
> death for many septic tanks.The foot and mouth outbreak in Britain would
> have been nipped in the bud a lot quicker had computerized tags been
> used.There's some scrambling around now in the US to shore up sagging
> public health infrastructure.What's probably really needed is something
> like I seem to remember Lady C proposing.I'm boosting 2 things here that
> on the surface may seem anathema to anarchists.IDs for all and
> socialized medicine. Am I wrong to?

YES, you are. The aims don't justify the means (initiatory-force regulation
of healthcare which is what will happen). Besides that you're not going to
reach the aims anyways. Look at what is happening on europe: all
insurances are forced on the government standard -- politicians dictate
what medicine should be used, prohibiting expensive and alternative
products and therapies. The REAL price ultimately includes 
governmentalisation and bureauratization of practiced medicine. People
have to pay more and more for public healthcare tax because the public
insurance (and the gov's healthcare standard to which all insurances
have to adhere) isn't rentable.

Public healthcare was Hillary's masterpiece of economic destruction
back then. Be happy that it didn't come to it. Please don't fall for
those lawyer-type destructions and antiindivdualistic intrusions for
Mrs C's often-cited, very own "social good".






Danny Glover Vs Oliver North

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

Subject: Danny Glover Under Attack by Oliver North
Danny Glover Under Attack by Oliver North et al (english)
by popopo 12:15am Sat Dec 22 '01 (Modified on 3:18am Sat Dec 22 '01)
because he is against the death penalty and that is being used to target 
him in another one of these right-wing smear campaigns the country is so 
fond of right now.
Subject: Fwd: FW: Danny Glover Under Attack
-- From: Juliette Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of Mark 
Ingles) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:57:28 -0800
From: "Fran Korten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:07:25 
-0800 Subject: Danny Glover Under Attack
Dear member of the State of the Possible community,
Here's a message to act on and to send on to your networks.
Danny Glover, actor, activist, and board member of the Positive Futures 
Network, has been coming under a hailstorm of attacks based on an incident 
following a speech he gave at Princeton on November 16.
This is not just about Danny. It's about all of us. As Danny noted in his 
speech "When we fear, we clamp down on those who do not think like us or 
who do not look like us." We see that happening everywhere, as our leaders 
look for total support for their military agenda and view dissent as 
unpatriotic.
As we enter this McCarthyesque period, I think we are all called upon to be 
more courageous, more articulate in our views, and more supportive of one 
another.
HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED TO DANNY
On November 16, at the invitation of the local Amnesty International 
chapter, Danny gave a speech about the death penalty to a packed auditorium 
at Princeton University. Danny is well known for his opposition to the 
death penalty. He pointed out that 98 death row inmates have recently been 
released after new evidence demonstrated their innocence. He also noted the 
racial bias in the system in which 43 percent of 741 executed prisoners 
were African Americans. His speech was received enthusiastically by a 
sympathetic audience.
After the close of the speech, when many had already left the auditorium, a 
young man questioned Danny in such racist language that the remaining 
audience booed the questioner. Danny signaled for quiet, saying we need to 
listen to all. The questioner accused Danny of "playing the victim" and 
suggested he go back and fix his own communities rather than blame racism. 
He also wanted to know if Danny would extend his opposition to the death 
penalty to Osama bin Laden. Danny affirmed his opposition to the death 
penalty, period. The provocative exchange continued, with Danny noting that 
America has been a key purveyor of violence in this world. Danny also 
voiced his objections to the military tribunals that President Bush has 
created.
These comments have elicited a hailstorm of outrage. For two weeks The 
Trentonian newspaper ran angry comments suggesting that if Danny didn't 
love this country he should leave it -- and worse. Oliver North broadcast 
the story across the country on his Radio America show, provoking hundreds 
of hate-filled calls to Danny's agency in Los Angeles. North urged his 
audience to boycott The Royal Tenenbaums -- a movie to be released in late 
December in which Danny stars along with Gwyneth Paltrow, Gene Hackman, 
Anjelica Huston, Ben Stiller, Bill Murray, and others.
In Modesto, California, the controversy caused the City Council to pull out 
of sponsoring Danny as the featured speaker for the celebration of Martin 
Luther King Day. Fortunately, the local planning committee for the event 
has maintained their invitation and Danny plans to speak. According to the 
Modesto Bee, "John Lucas, president of the Modesto Peace Life Center, one 
of the sponsors, noted that King himself was controversial and criticized 
the Vietnam War. Lucas does not think Glover's views are much different 
from those King might have had if he were alive today. 'The interesting 
thing I find is that Martin Luther King wouldn't be invited to his own 
event,'" he said.
WHAT YOU CAN DO
Those who would stifle dissent are quick to express their opinions and 
target anyone who takes a larger view of patriotism. We too must be ready 
to respond quickly in our vigilant defense of real democracy.
**MODESTO: Show support for Danny -- and for free speech -- in Modesto. If 
you know anyone around that area, urge them to attend! Danny will speak on 
Saturday, January 19 at 7:00 p.m. at the Christ Unity Baptist Church at 
1320 L St. in Modesto (Call the Peace Life Center for further information: 
209/529-5750).
Fax the Modesto City Council at 209/571-5586 or write them at Modesto City 
Council, P.O. Box 642, Modesto CA 94341 saying you support free speech and 
disagree with their decision to pull their backing for Danny's appearance 
at the MLK Day activities.
**THE MOVIE: Here's an easy one. See the Royal Tenenbaums -- don't let 
Ollie North's call for a boycott depress the box office.
**MLK Day. Let's celebrate Martin Luther King Day with an extra measure of 
clarity about his co

book

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

 >>Bought a copy of True Names and read it last night. Great story, 
especially considering the date. The first net-fi I read was Neuromancer in 
'84.

Im yet to have the pleasure of either,Does 'Billion dollar brain",by len 
Deighton squeeze into the genre?

 >>R. Stallman's Right to Read short story is sickeningly close to reality. 
I don't care one way or the other if Microsoft patents and creates an OS 
that does DRM but I do care about having it forced down my throat at the 
hands of congressvermin and corporations which, as I see it, is practically 
a certainty.<<

They are patenting our DNA,the freeTM market is a very strict mistress.MS 
and its precious code is now listed as a security risk. The wisdom of 
insecurity by watts,springs to mind."when you can snatch the source code 
from my fingers..."
Dont knock corporations here mike, jamesd will be on your case like a 
latter day roy cohn.Tims freeper hatchet man.

 >>Tim's essay was mostly the familiar stuff, nicely organized and 
presented. The style was almost academic but I notice he did slip one 
"spokesvermin" reference in there<<

Tim says jya should not be seen as representative of this list.Ill take him 
over timmy anyday.Tim May is well past his useby date.The familiar stuff 
deconstructs into lame self mythologizing,dead data and puff pieces on 
cyber-liberty.
Academic in the use of jargon,obscurantist verbiage,pretentious 
drivel,reactionary nonsense?I'm not surprised.

 >>So, Tim, we seem to have raced closer if not past the fork in the road, 
especially since September. Recalling Yogi Berra's "when you come to the 
fork in the road, take it", have we taken it? And if so which path?

Tim May: Deja vu all over again.Verbal contracts not worth the paper 
they're written on,etc...Fork off tim.

 >>The fork analogy may be too simple. The natural path for a vital culture 
is the crypto-anarchist path. The path of increasing state control is the 
natural path for the maintenance and accumulation of power. We all see the 
forces in operation, it's pretty much the topic 24/7. I think the forces 
that bind this mess together increase with distance, the more free the net 
becomes the greater the perceived threat and the desire to reign it in. The 
tighter the controls the greater the desire to break free. On each side 
there are those for whom compromise is unacceptable. In the middle are the 
nearly oblivious masses who can with varying degrees of success be swayed 
one way or the other from time to time. Fear seems to be their main 
motivator. <<

30% of the pop may support the revolution,30% may oppose it,the rest are on 
the fence.The way to leverage relatively small no's through anonymity and 
the web is to use AP to defend and extend the web."the net is closing 
in"and not just on bin laden.What anarchy? Why die for timmy mays casper 
milquetoast version when the real things on the streets.
Alternatively,lie low,stay anon,the state of grace is quad anon.Both will 
be needed.Mays cod anarchism will not.
Fear is the key and the only thing to fear is fear itself."extremely dark 
markets'should not be feared.Viva anarchy!

 >>Rather than making a choice and following any single path we are 
following two concurrent and divergent paths and the energy level is 
increasing. We are headed for a period of escalation. It's definitely a new 
'War on Drugs' scenario, just as dangerous, just as futile and just as 
sustainable. Mike <<

Who's this "we",whiteman? After prohibition 2,vietnam 2,bush 2 its time for 
civil war 2.The coasts march on crawford and liberate the chicago and 
minnesota communes.In the dreamtime of one persyn who's been down the other 
side of the mountain and knows the world can live out the true meaning of 
this creed,"Liberty without socialism is privilege,injustice;Socialism 
without liberty is slavery and brutality." Bakunin:  Sustainable is as 
sustainable does.




Michael's Chatroom; 74% profit last week

2001-12-22 Thread Frank Vanderlugt

Well, Lazytraders,

Last week was another good week, not spectacular, but 74% per week is
better than CD's are paying now.


hi frank,

By the way we had 
2 great calls today (1 over 40%)- one guy on an $8,000 investment made
$2800
today! and 1 great one yesterday ( over 30%)- i will email them to you
later-
have a great night!


here are the picks for the week.

monday: none

tuesday:GOAM  8:18 FOR $2.25 WENT TO $3.00 AT 8:36; 

wednesday:INVN 9:11 for 36.79... went to 37.90 at 12:55 and higher later
on; MCEL 1:08 for 5.38 went to 7.13 at 1:34

thursday: VSNX 9:34 FOR 19.32... went to 20.79 at 9:47

friday: V V U S; 1:40 for 5.39... went to 5.83 at 3:17

have a great weekend

michael

Date:   Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:12:34 -0800

From:   R. Haigh 
Subject:LAZYDAYTRADING COURSE
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




FRANK-

I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT WRITING YOU EARLIER. THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR THE INSIGHTS YOU SHARED IN YOUR LAZY DAYTRADING COURSE.
 BECAUSE OF MICHAEL'S CHATROOM, I WAS IMMEDIATELY ABLE TO SEE
REALTIME TRADES WORK, JUST AS YOU TAUGHT THEM IN YOUR COURSE.
 ANYONE WITH DISCIPLINE WHO APPLIES THEMSELVES CAN MAKE A LIVING
FOLLOWING YOUR INSTRUCTION.  YOUR PRICE REPRESENTS INCREDIBLE
VALUE.

APPRECIATIVELY,

BOB HAIGH


>From somebody who just bought the System:

""Referred to you by my brother, ... he applauds your methods ...""





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Michael's Chatroom; 74% profit last week

2001-12-22 Thread Frank Vanderlugt

Well, Lazytraders,

Last week was another good week, not spectacular, but 74% per week is
better than CD's are paying now.


hi frank,

By the way we had 
2 great calls today (1 over 40%)- one guy on an $8,000 investment made
$2800
today! and 1 great one yesterday ( over 30%)- i will email them to you
later-
have a great night!


here are the picks for the week.

monday: none

tuesday:GOAM  8:18 FOR $2.25 WENT TO $3.00 AT 8:36; 

wednesday:INVN 9:11 for 36.79... went to 37.90 at 12:55 and higher later
on; MCEL 1:08 for 5.38 went to 7.13 at 1:34

thursday: VSNX 9:34 FOR 19.32... went to 20.79 at 9:47

friday: V V U S; 1:40 for 5.39... went to 5.83 at 3:17

have a great weekend

michael

Date:   Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:12:34 -0800

From:   R. Haigh 
Subject:LAZYDAYTRADING COURSE
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




FRANK-

I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT WRITING YOU EARLIER. THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR THE INSIGHTS YOU SHARED IN YOUR LAZY DAYTRADING COURSE.
 BECAUSE OF MICHAEL'S CHATROOM, I WAS IMMEDIATELY ABLE TO SEE
REALTIME TRADES WORK, JUST AS YOU TAUGHT THEM IN YOUR COURSE.
 ANYONE WITH DISCIPLINE WHO APPLIES THEMSELVES CAN MAKE A LIVING
FOLLOWING YOUR INSTRUCTION.  YOUR PRICE REPRESENTS INCREDIBLE
VALUE.

APPRECIATIVELY,

BOB HAIGH


>From somebody who just bought the System:

""Referred to you by my brother, ... he applauds your methods ...""





Become a Lazy DayTrader at:

http://www.lazytrader.com

after which you can join Michael Crowder's Real Time Chatroom for a small
monthly fee which will alert you to EVERY buying opportunity from 8 AM
till 8 PM EST.

We also found a Real-Time quote, and Real-Time News Service
that will help you enormously; it was voted best of the web by Forbes, PC
World, PC Week, USA Today, Barron's, and TheStreet.com.
Take the 2 week free trial at:

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Have a nice day.


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consistently is not realistic.
The risk factor is high in stock trading and  only "Risk Capital" or
"Risk 
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Risk 
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Danny Glover Under Attack by Oliver North

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

Danny Glover Under Attack by Oliver North et al (english)
by popopo 12:15am Sat Dec 22 '01 (Modified on 3:18am Sat Dec 22 '01)
because he is against the death penalty and that is being used to target 
him in another one of these right-wing smear campaigns the country is so 
fond of right now.
Subject: Fwd: FW: Danny Glover Under Attack
-- From: Juliette Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of Mark 
Ingles) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:57:28 -0800
From: "Fran Korten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:07:25 
-0800 Subject: Danny Glover Under Attack
Dear member of the State of the Possible community,
Here's a message to act on and to send on to your networks.
Danny Glover, actor, activist, and board member of the Positive Futures 
Network, has been coming under a hailstorm of attacks based on an incident 
following a speech he gave at Princeton on November 16.
This is not just about Danny. It's about all of us. As Danny noted in his 
speech "When we fear, we clamp down on those who do not think like us or 
who do not look like us." We see that happening everywhere, as our leaders 
look for total support for their military agenda and view dissent as 
unpatriotic.
As we enter this McCarthyesque period, I think we are all called upon to be 
more courageous, more articulate in our views, and more supportive of one 
another.
HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED TO DANNY
On November 16, at the invitation of the local Amnesty International 
chapter, Danny gave a speech about the death penalty to a packed auditorium 
at Princeton University. Danny is well known for his opposition to the 
death penalty. He pointed out that 98 death row inmates have recently been 
released after new evidence demonstrated their innocence. He also noted the 
racial bias in the system in which 43 percent of 741 executed prisoners 
were African Americans. His speech was received enthusiastically by a 
sympathetic audience.
After the close of the speech, when many had already left the auditorium, a 
young man questioned Danny in such racist language that the remaining 
audience booed the questioner. Danny signaled for quiet, saying we need to 
listen to all. The questioner accused Danny of "playing the victim" and 
suggested he go back and fix his own communities rather than blame racism. 
He also wanted to know if Danny would extend his opposition to the death 
penalty to Osama bin Laden. Danny affirmed his opposition to the death 
penalty, period. The provocative exchange continued, with Danny noting that 
America has been a key purveyor of violence in this world. Danny also 
voiced his objections to the military tribunals that President Bush has 
created.
These comments have elicited a hailstorm of outrage. For two weeks The 
Trentonian newspaper ran angry comments suggesting that if Danny didn't 
love this country he should leave it -- and worse. Oliver North broadcast 
the story across the country on his Radio America show, provoking hundreds 
of hate-filled calls to Danny's agency in Los Angeles. North urged his 
audience to boycott The Royal Tenenbaums -- a movie to be released in late 
December in which Danny stars along with Gwyneth Paltrow, Gene Hackman, 
Anjelica Huston, Ben Stiller, Bill Murray, and others.
In Modesto, California, the controversy caused the City Council to pull out 
of sponsoring Danny as the featured speaker for the celebration of Martin 
Luther King Day. Fortunately, the local planning committee for the event 
has maintained their invitation and Danny plans to speak. According to the 
Modesto Bee, "John Lucas, president of the Modesto Peace Life Center, one 
of the sponsors, noted that King himself was controversial and criticized 
the Vietnam War. Lucas does not think Glover's views are much different 
from those King might have had if he were alive today. 'The interesting 
thing I find is that Martin Luther King wouldn't be invited to his own 
event,'" he said.
WHAT YOU CAN DO
Those who would stifle dissent are quick to express their opinions and 
target anyone who takes a larger view of patriotism. We too must be ready 
to respond quickly in our vigilant defense of real democracy.
**MODESTO: Show support for Danny -- and for free speech -- in Modesto. If 
you know anyone around that area, urge them to attend! Danny will speak on 
Saturday, January 19 at 7:00 p.m. at the Christ Unity Baptist Church at 
1320 L St. in Modesto (Call the Peace Life Center for further information: 
209/529-5750).
Fax the Modesto City Council at 209/571-5586 or write them at Modesto City 
Council, P.O. Box 642, Modesto CA 94341 saying you support free speech and 
disagree with their decision to pull their backing for Danny's appearance 
at the MLK Day activities.
**THE MOVIE: Here's an easy one. See the Royal Tenenbaums -- don't let 
Ollie North's call for a boycott depress the box office.
**MLK Day. Let's celebrate Martin Luther King Day with an extra measure of 
clarity about his courage in consistently urging this nation to live up

Earth to Al Qaeda.When the going gets tough,the tough turn proffr.

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

Proffr1 as devils advocate.OK,things did not go as planned,the lousy 
Infidel prefer to drop bombs and kill by remote control.
No sweat.A guerilla campaign will start sooner or later and the next time 
it could be different.How?
Through the grace of allah,blessed be to allah,we now stand ready to launch 
operation soft drill.All you need is the internet,e-dinars and your 
targets.The US airforce,all relatives and friends of members of the US 
airforce,all those who supply and cater to the US air force.Hell,almost any 
large crowd of norte americano tax payers.
See the problem when you kill so many innocents as you did in africa and 
new york is the blowback is brutal.
The beauty of targeted action or assassination politics is only the perp 
gets popped.Its easier to sell.The price on your head could go through the 
roof but its so high now its practically meaningless to raise it and we are 
prepared for eternal martyrdom with the virgins anyway,right?
To sum up,dont despair.You have much to be proud of,from saving our friends 
in FARC to spreading the good news of Hawala.From restoring the classic NYC 
skyline to striking the very heart of evil at the pentagon.From showing the 
awesome leveraged might of low tech-high concept attack as best 
defence,just in time manufacturing and low hierachy with strict 'need to 
know',global strategy,public relations and marketing brilliance,(at least 
early on)and distributed sleeper networks with internet links,al quada has 
blazed some new trails down which some/one have already followed.Salaam and 
shookoran to you,may allah bless and keep you safe.The last empire will 
fall,trust me on this.Stand on me.Your bud,proffr1




Re: prisoners dilemma,

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

Subject: Re:  prisoners dilemma,trapped in a privatised prison hellhole.
 >>Yes, but the bigger they are the shorter they survive. It's sort of like 
'virtual particles'. For a given energy level they can exist for only so 
long. <<
Que? Bigger what are? Stable states of anarchy? Lets create a global one 
and synchronize our watches.Wheres your cite's?
 >>I think the goal is to build a society that is long lived and intrudes 
on the affairs of the individual a minimal amount.
In "age of empires?"trad anarchist theory?Situationalism?Cypherpunks 
list?On this list anarcho-capitalism or libertarianism is often said to be 
the goal-a quote on that from Salon..."No libertarian state, after all, has 
ever existed in the world. (America, incessantly denounced by libertarians 
as a Great Satan of regulation, is, ironically but not surprisingly, much 
closer to being that free state than any other developed nation.) This 
gives libertarianism a futuristic allure that resonates with high-tech 
visionaries -- but it also raises suspicions that the whole thing is a pipe 
dream, a vaporous, almost psychotically elaborate "system" that resembles 
an elaborate science fiction alternate universe, or that plan labored on by 
Swift's Lagadan "projector" for extracting sunbeams out of cucumbers. When 
something has never been attempted, it may be because mankind has not 
evolved sufficiently -- or it may be because it can't be. (Of the 
libertarian belief that all social difficulties would vanish if a perfectly 
free market system could be established, the Burkean conservative Russell 
Kirk wrote, "This was very like saying that if only the Sermon on the Mount 
were universally obeyed to the letter, sin would vanish from among men. The 
trouble is that the Sermon on the Mount will not triumph until the end of 
all things earthly. There exist reasons for believing that the ideal 
universal free market is nearly so difficult of attainment.")
Libertarianism's cold, Platonic perfectionism arouses suspicions. (Plato's 
Republic, like the libertarian utopia, is divided hierarchically -- and 
it's a safe bet that few libertarians believe that when the great Free 
Market Future dawns they will find themselves shoveling coal in the Race of 
Iron Steel Mill.) There is something lab-coaty about this philosophy, 
something that conjures up images of '50s scientists with wire-rimmed 
glasses and crew cuts: "3:05. We removed all governmental controls. 
Seventeen subjects died of malnutrition. Three became wealthy. Plague broke 
out in the southwest quadrant. The experiment continued without further 
incident."

AP? Id like to hear Jim's opinion.Jim Bell that is.I repeat...Possible to 
have smuggled posts from former list members published? Several > books 
have been written this way. > Information does want to be free. >




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Re: More on remailers.

2001-12-22 Thread mattd

 >>Seems to me like a straightforward economic analysis. Rates a remailer 
operator will charge reflect his cost plus. If the rates become too high, 
the remailer will go out of business. If customers perceive their privacy 
is in danger because remailers are going bankrupt and the cloud is 
shrinking, the remaining remailers will lose revenue and, in extremis, 
again go out of business. Assuming that all users are using the network 
roughly equally and therefore paying roughly the same, this suggests 
there's a critical number of users necessary to keep a for-profit network 
afloat. But change the assumption about paying equally, and the critical 
number may approach one. "A small number of high-paying remailer customers" 
could bankroll the remailer network by providing direct subsidies to the 
remailer operators or giving out free can-be-used-for-remailing-only tokens 
to anyone who asks. There might be better ways to do this, but it's late at 
night and I'm getting pretty tired. But it seems like "yes" is the easy 
answer to your question. -Declan <<

Straightforward economic analysis,how refreshing! From our resident 
comped,bottom feeding scribbler. If its true Amazon just turned a profit 
then the strong possibility exists that the 1st strong and trusted remailer 
will eventually do the same.The need for remailing should tend to 
exponential to anyone with a little imagination.A lot of people right now 
are looking for a new Hawala,others for spam and AP,other horsemen type 
uses and counters to the threats they pose.The AP threat to capitalism as 
we know it should not be underestimated as also the threat to 
infrastructure from hungry mobs,collapse of govts not prepared for,etc.The 
dynamic effects and turbulence created could easily tear the large nodes to 
bits.Slow but steady with distrib and P-P is agent Faustines bet and Ill 
take her up on it.The fate of the earth might come down to a few decent 
secret agents leaking us info and possibly taking direct action against 
insane attempts to start ww4.Its late in our participation in mass 
extinction events,Im getting tired as well.Say goodnight to joshua.




IP: Government questions over Windows XP security flaws (fwd)

2001-12-22 Thread Eugene Leitl



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>
>http://www.kfwb.com/news/nat/n122113.html

FBI, Pentagon Quiz Microsoft Over Windows XP Problems WASHINGTON (AP)
12.21.01, 4:05p -- FBI and Defense Department officials and some top
industry experts sought reassurance Friday from Microsoft Corp. that a free
software fix it offered effectively stops hackers from attacking major
flaws discovered in the latest version of Windows.
The government's rare interest in the problems with Windows XP software,
which is expected to be widely adopted by consumers, illustrates U.S.
concerns about risks to the Internet. Friday's discussions came during a
private conference call organized by the FBI's National Infrastructure
Protection Center, its top cyber-security unit.
Microsoft's experts bluntly acknowledged the threats posed by the Windows
XP problems, but they assured federal officials and industry experts that
its fix -- if installed by consumers -- resolves the issues.
The company acknowledged Thursday that Windows XP suffers from serious
problems that allow hackers to steal or destroy a victim's data files
across the Internet or implant rogue computer software. The glitches were
unusually serious because they allow hackers to seize control of all
Windows XP operating system software without requiring a computer user to
do anything except connect to the Internet.
Microsoft declined to tell U.S. officials Friday how many consumers
downloaded and installed its fix during the first 24 hours it was
available. Experts from Internet providers, including AT&T Corp., argued
that information was vital to determine the scope of the threat.
Microsoft also indicated it would not send e-mail reminders to Windows XP
customers to remind them of the importance of installing the patch.
One participant in the call, who spoke on condition of anonymity, otherwise
described Microsoft officials as "extremely forthright." Microsoft
explained that a new feature of Windows XP can automatically download the
free fix, which takes several minutes, and prompt consumers to install it.
"The patch is effective," said Steve Lipner, Microsoft's director of
security assurance, who participated in Friday's call. "There was a
discussion of the importance of the Windows auto-update capability. People
were encouraged by the fact that we'll get the patch to people."
Officials also expressed fears to Microsoft about electronic attacks
launched against Web sites and federal agencies during next week's
Christmas holidays from computers running still-vulnerable versions of
Windows, participants said.
Several experts said they had already managed to duplicate within their
research labs so-called "denial of service" attacks made possible by the
Windows XP flaws. Such attacks can overwhelm Web sites and prevent their
use by legitimate visitors.
"That was the one you'll more likely see over Christmas break," one
participant said.
Another risk, that hackers can implant rogue software on vulnerable
computers, was considered more remote because of the technical
sophistication needed.
The FBI's cyber-security unit has been particularly worried lately about
the threats from denial of service attacks. It warned again Thursday that
it "has reason to believe that the potential for (denial of service)
attacks is high."
The FBI said people have indicated they plan to target the Defense
Department's Web sites, as well as other organizations that support the
nation's most important networks.
Participants in Friday's call included the FBI; Defense Department; the
U.S. Federal Computer Incident Response Center; federally funded CERT
Coordination Center; eEye Digital Security Inc., which discovered the
Windows XP problems; Network Associates Inc.; the System Administration,
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Re: More on remailers.

2001-12-22 Thread Declan McCullagh

On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 01:21:27PM -0800, Len Sassaman wrote:
> In conclusion, I leave you with a question: if remailer users are reduced
> to a small number of high-paying remailer customers for whom anonymity is
> not a game, but a matter of life or death, could a mix-net be made to
> provide any sufficient degree of security? "No" is the easy answer. Say
> yes, and prove it.

Seems to me like a straightforward economic analysis. Rates a remailer
operator will charge reflect his cost plus. If the rates become too
high, the remailer will go out of business. If customers perceive
their privacy is in danger because remailers are going bankrupt and
the cloud is shrinking, the remaining remailers will lose revenue and,
in extremis, again go out of business.

Assuming that all users are using the network roughly equally and
therefore paying roughly the same, this suggests there's a critical
number of users necessary to keep a for-profit network afloat.

But change the assumption about paying equally, and the critical number
may approach one. "A small number of high-paying remailer customers"
could bankroll the remailer network by providing direct subsidies to
the remailer operators or giving out free
can-be-used-for-remailing-only tokens to anyone who asks.

There might be better ways to do this, but it's late at night and I'm
getting pretty tired. But it seems like "yes" is the easy answer to
your question.

-Declan




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