date:20020210

Inside Job: ICANN Hires Crispin as "Technical Systems Manager"

2002-02-10 Thread R. A. Hettinga


I couldn't pass this up.

Sorry if you've seen it.

Cheers,
RAH

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   ICANN Staff and Structure
   Inside Job: ICANN Hires Crispin
   Posted by tbyfield on Sunday, February 10 @ 14:10:05 MST

   Contributed by tbyfield

   "Following a long international search" sprawling over all of 65 days
   and 360 miles (the distance, as the SUV drives, from Marina Del Rey to
   just north of Silicon Valley), ICANN has rewarded one of its most
   devout errand boys for years of services patiently rendered. Kent
   Crispin has ascended to the proud position of ICANN's Technical
   Systems Manager.[1] *Kent Crispin.* The name alone brings shivers to
   ICANN Watchers around the world.

  [1] http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-04feb02.htm

   Why?

   Crispin's company, Songbird, hosts numerous sites, "some of" which are
   named on Songbird's site.[2] Among those not named is that of ICANN's
   own Intellectual Property Constituency.[3] (One can only wonder at the
   horror felt by the registrants of 500-odd federal "IPC" trademarks at
   the IPC's use of "ipc" as a "superdomain"[4] tacked onto songbird.com.)

  [2] http://www.songbird.com/
  [3] http://ipc.songbird.com/
  [4] http://www.tbtf.com/roving_reporter/icann3.html#7

   Crispin's provision of technical support to the GHQ of ICANN's
   intellectual property devotees might seem to suggest certain
   proclivities; and yet, astonishingly, since August 1999 -- that is,
   pretty much since the beginning -- he has represented an organization
   on *Noncommercial* Domain Name Holders Constituency. So what's the
   catch? The "noncommercial" organization whose interests he
   "represents" is a *yacht club*.

   Even a cursory glance at the NCDNHC's membership rolls[5] makes clear
   just how peculiar this particular member is. Fortunately, Crispin
   can't actually vote in NCDNHC matters, because Songbird subsequently
   joined the Business Constituency. As a result, Crispin, along with his
   sidekick Dave Crocker (q.v.), has had to content himself merely with
   engaging in coordinated tag-team disruptions of NCDNHC discussions --
   which is a particular shame because the NCDNHC, though far less
   effective than the corporate-supported constituencies, nevertheless
   remains ICANN's most substantial internal critic.

  [5] http://members.icann-ncc.org/

   But ICANN is, after all, *industry self-regulation* (can you say
   "Enron"?), so it would be unfair to bar someone like Crispin from a
   "technical" position solely on the basis of his involvement in prior
   controversies, right? Let's turn to something more tangibly relevant
   to his new job, by looking at past examples more closely related to
   his new employ -- say, his judicousness in distinguishing between his
   own views and the broad range of interests that bear on DNS issues, or
   his meticulous and sustained attention to detail.

   A clearer sense of Crispin's tendencies in these regards can be found
   on a transparently bottoms-up patch of astroturf known as "ICANN
   Facts"[6] -- which, if anything, is a testament to ICANN Watch (imitation
   being the sincerest form of flattery, after all). ICANN Facts purports
   to proffer up 25 kinds of ICANN-related background info, but in
   its year of existence to date only 6 of them (including the
   self-referential items "Home" and "About") have ever actually been
   linked. That leaves:

1. the content-free "References" page[7] ("We will try to keep it
   complete...but are sure to fail");

2. the "Representation" page,[8] which points to a solitary meditation,
   "Towards Improved Representation in ICANN" -- written by former
   ICANN CEO Mike Roberts;

3. "Alt Roots,"[9] which links to the IAB's famously (lowercase "c")
   catholic RFC 2826, as well as to two IETF drafts by, yes, Crispin
   and Crocker. Interestingly, these three documents are dated,
   respectively, May 2000, 25 May 2000, and 15 June 2000;

4. and, last but surely not least, a nostalgic link to the site of
   the (circa late '96) abortive International Ad Hoc Committee
   (IAHC).[10]

[6] http://www.icannfacts.org/
[7] http://www.icannfacts.org/references.html
[8] http://www.icannfacts.org/topics/representation/representation.html
[9] http://www.icannfacts.org/topics/altroots/altroots.html
[10] http://www.iahc.org/

   Credit where credit is due: all three members of the troika, which
   also includes Dave Crocker and Eric Brunner-Williams, *did* take the
   time to disclose their inolvement with ICANN.[11] Crispin flatly states
   t

Re: Choating on democracy

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, proffr11 wrote:

> http://cryptome.org/amer-demo-rip.htm
> 
> Eat your heart out jimbo!

You're a quitter.

What did Clements say...

The news of my demise is premature. It ain't even close to over.

or perhaps Patton,

You are never beaten until you admit it.

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2002-02-10 Thread proffr11


http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=132887&group=webcast

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Re: Konformist: SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT ENRON'S CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS

2002-02-10 Thread Tim May

On Sunday, February 10, 2002, at 10:49  AM, Jei wrote:

> -~->
>
> Please send as far and wide as possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert Sterling
> Editor, The Konformist
> http://www.konformist.com
>
> http://writ.findlaw.com/dean/20020118.html
> 
> SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT ENRON'S CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS:
> Did Enron Successfully Buy Influence With The Money It Spent?
> By JOHN W. DEAN
> 
> Friday, Jan. 18, 2002
>
>

This report was widely available MORE THAN THREE WEEKS AGO.

Today is February 10th...that report, which rehashed familiar material, 
is dated January 18th.

Your spam has become intolerable.

You have never had an original thing to say here.

Please leave.

--Tim May

Choating on democracy

2002-02-10 Thread proffr11


http://cryptome.org/amer-demo-rip.htm

Eat your heart out jimbo!

"Liberty without socialism is privilege,injustice;socialism without liberty 
is slavery and brutality."Mikhail Bakunin.

Do you work for the US Govt?

2002-02-10 Thread proffr11


http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/anthrax_g.htm

The ghost of james JESUS F CHRIST! Angleton must be haunting you right 
now.I hope you die of fright.
The FEB 9 edition page 8.read it and weep.

"Liberty without socialism is privilege,injustice;socialism without liberty 
is slavery and brutality."Mikhail Bakunin.

Re: Do you work for the US Govt?

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, proffr11 wrote:

> "Liberty without socialism is privilege,injustice;socialism without liberty 
> is slavery and brutality."Mikhail Bakunin.

Socialism has no concept of liberty. Socialism is the abrogation of the
concept of 'private property' or 'civil rights', it only recognizes the
utility of the 'state'.

Socialism is slavery of the many to the one.

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RE: Cruel and unusual punishment

2002-02-10 Thread proffr11

Aimee wrote: >Assassination has proven a poor political >solution for 
revolutionary climates, People's >War, and political agendas. Killing only 
gets >you a body. Michael Collins was proficient >(Anglo-Irish 
War >1916-1921), but even he caught > the bullet -- and he had a lot of 
things going >for him that some of you don't.
Ever since, >people have tried to use assassination as a tool >for this 
genre of warfare. The problem is >reprisals and replacement.
 >Assuming AP was possible, why would ANYBODY 
want >uncontrolled assassination?
  Drug lords, mobsters and government security agencies all know 
assassination is pretty damn close to "uncontrolled" right now. It's only 
these fatass cerebral couch potato commandos and schizoid tech nerds who 
don't have the skills and/or courage of their convictions to actually put 
down the snackycakes, get off the fucking couch and make something happen 
who think AP is anything to write home about. <<

The beauty of APster is anyone with a connection and a few e-dinars can 
participate,Anyone! Its a selling point,stupid.

 >>There's not a doubt in my mind people use encryption to facilitate 
assasinations as it is. AP is just a loser's wet dream: <<

Um,excuse me,but isnt AP mainly about using encryption to facilitate 
assassination's? If its a poor description of an emergance of something 
new,maybe you could write a better one?

 >>"what if we weren't so abysmally impotent!" "what if someone paid 
attention to me!" <<

Being anonymous doesn't add much weight to these jabs.Try viagra and get a 
personality?

 >>"What if I could use the four bucks my mother gave me to KILLL someone 
who said something I didn't like on a mailing list!" Fucking pathetic. <<

You can add it to mine if we both dislike the same person.Anonymity is your 
friend then.It could also be therapeutic,"don't bottle it up!" APster was 
originally proposed for saddam,it could easily transfer to USAsama.Whats 
pathetic about saving lives and vast sums of money?One of his wives might 
do it if the payment was encrypted.Not popularizing APster makes all those 
in Govt that know of it culpable in my book.There will be reperccusions 
after the crypto-revolution,I promise you.Is the Govt even encrypting the 
2.5 mill reward for the US govt rogue terror agent anthrax?
(The above >><< cant be an ad hominem on me because just one short post 
from me led to Ohio law enforcement being made jackasses of,they even 
started to set up a grand jury! Truly pathetic.)

 >Also, in today's culture, anonymous >assassination is not want most 
assassins >want. They want identification, because of >the "pussy-profile" 
associated >with amateur assassins, <<

Offing some nazi celebrities like Cruise and Travolta should fix that.(my 2c)

and assassination meme >followers. Government assassins don't share this 
motivation. What this implies about your use of the word "most" remains to 
be seen. *** "When badgers fight, then everyone's a foe." --John Clare. <<

Thanks guys for keeping APster alive,Id don't know what I'd do without 
youse.Kill the prez,pr.

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English grammar vs. MS Outlook/OE... (fwd)

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

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Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:20:56 -0500
Subject: English grammar vs. MS Outlook/OE...

Sigh...
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/21.90.html#subj9

Didn't forward this when I first ran across it but what the hell..
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23966.html

Someone please make it stop... :-(   There are so many more challenging security
issues out there that need attention and these anklebiter [1]  feeders [2] are
not helping.

[1] anklebiter: script kiddies
[2] anklebiter feeders: MS and other security unconcious vendors

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Re: CDR: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Anonymous wrote:

> I know those qualifiers are going to sound a
> little harsh but if you ever met one you'd know
> what I mean. I don't mean to imply they aren't 
> genuinely and sincerely patriotic, either. They
> are. Which makes the whole enterprise even
> stranger.

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Re: Where's the smart money?

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, R. A. Hettinga wrote:

> Radio-frequency identification tags (RFIDs) are widgets that are used all
> over the world for granting access to secure areas. They are also used to
> track anything from books to pallets to cattle to Prada handbags. Their
> advantage is that each tag (and therefore each object) can be identified
> uniquely. That makes them different from, say, bar codes, which merely
> identify classes of object.

This last is a specious claim. The fact is that a barcode is just as able
to encode specific ID's on objects as not. It's a matter of choice, not
technology.

Bar codes are used in lots of inventory apps where each object gets its
own unique barcode.

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Fw: axis of evil (fwd)

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate



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Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:01:00 -0500
Subject: Fw: axis of evil

funny.

- Original Message - 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>  In Speech, Bush Calls Iraq, Iran and North Korea 'Axis of
> Evil"-N.Y. Times, 1/30/02 
>  
>  ANGERED BY SNUBBING, LIBYA, CHINA SYRIA FORM AXIS OF JUST
> AS EVIL Cuba, Sudan, Serbia Form Axis of Somewhat Evil;
> Other Nations Start Own Clubs Beijing. - Bitter after being
> snubbed for membership in the "Axis of Evil," Libya, China,
> and Syria today announced they had formed the "Axis of Just
> as Evil," which they said would be way eviler than that
> stupid Iran-Iraq-North Korea axis President Bush warned of
> his State of the Union address. Axis of Evil members,
> however, immediately dismissed the new axis as having, for
> starters, a really dumb name. "Right. They are Just as
> Evil...in their dreams!" declared North Korean leader Kim
> Jong-il. "Everybody knows we're the best evils... best at
> being evil... we're the best." 
>  
> Diplomats from Syria denied they were jealous over being
> excluded, although they conceded they did ask if they could
> join the Axis of Evil."They told us it was full," said
> Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. "An Axis can't have more
> than three countries," explained Iraqi President Saddam
> Hussein."This is not my rule, it's tradition. In World War
> II you had Germany, Italy, and Japan in the evil Axis. So
> you can only have three. And a secret handshake. Ours is
> wicked cool." 
>  
> THE AXIS PANDEMIC 
>  International reaction to Bush's Axis of Evil declaration
> was swift, as within minutes, France surrendered.
> Elsewhere, peer-conscious nations rushed to gain
> triumvirate status in what became a game of geopolitical
> chairs. Cuba, Sudan, and Serbia said they had formed the
> Axis of Somewhat Evil, forcing Somalia to join with Uganda
> and Myanmar in the Axis of Occasionally Evil, while
> Bulgaria, Indonesia and Russia established the Axis of Not
> So Much Evil Really As Just Generally Disagreeable. With
> the criteria suddenly expanded and all the desirable clubs
> filling up, Sierra Leone, El Salvador, and Rwanda applied
> to be called the Axis of Countries That Aren't the Worst
> But Certainly Won't Be Asked to Host the Olympics; Canada,
> Mexico, and Australia formed the Axis of Nations That Are
> Actually Quite Nice But Secretly Have Nasty Thoughts About
> America, while Spain, Scotland, and New Zealand established
> the Axis of Countries That Be Allowed to Ask Sheep to Wear
> Lipstick. "That's not a threat, really, just something we
> like to do," said Scottish Executive First Minister Jack
> McConnell. While wondering if the other nations of the
> world weren't perhaps making fun of him, a cautious Bush
> granted approval for most axes, although he rejected the
> establishment of the Axis of Countries Whose Names End in
> "Guay," accusing one of its members of filing a false
> application. Officials from Paraguay, Uruguay, and Chadguay
> denied the charges. 
> 
>  Israel, meanwhile, insisted it didn't want to join any
> Axis, but privately, world leaders said that's only because
> no one asked them. 
>

Where's the smart money? (fwd)

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

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Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 19:05:24 -0500
From: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Digital Bearer Settlement List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Where's the smart money?

http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=975746&CFID=301055&CFTOKEN=47471685

Where's the smart money?

Feb 7th 2002
>From The Economist print edition

Money of the future may almost literally talk

AMERICAN banknotes bear the motto "In God we trust". A humorous extension
to this phrase-ascribed, unofficially, to the National Security Agency-is
"All Others, we monitor". That joke, though, may soon pale into reality,
for such a phrase might well be a suitable slogan for the cash of the
future.

Radio-frequency identification tags (RFIDs) are widgets that are used all
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advantage is that each tag (and therefore each object) can be identified
uniquely. That makes them different from, say, bar codes, which merely
identify classes of object. Also unlike bar codes, RFIDS can be read
remotely without having to be in the line of sight of the reader. In recent
years, their manufacturers have been drooling over the possibility of
tagging banknotes. The advantages envisaged are a combination of
authentication, anti-counterfeiting and tracking.

In the money

The guts of a typical RFID tag are a microchip and an antenna (often a coil
of wire). These may be sandwiched inside an encapsulating plastic. There is
no battery. When a tag is "interrogated" by a reading machine operating at
the right radio frequency, the antenna picks up a small amount of
electromagnetic energy that it uses to power the chip. The tag then
broadcasts data in the chip back to the reader.

A new generation of RFID tags produced by companies such as Texas
Instruments in America, Hitachi in Japan and Infineon Technologies in
Germany, has broken through barriers of size (less than 1mm across and
12mm thick), cost, flexibility and durability, to a point where such tags
can be embedded inside sheets of paper, such as banknotes.

The distance from which tagged banknotes could be read would depend on the
exact specifications of the chips that were used. It would probably be
somewhere between 10cm and a metre. One form of the technology can read 30
notes a second, although the tags have to be separated from each other by a
distance of at least 2cm to reduce interference. Initially, therefore,
bundles of notes could not be read; but notes being issued from cash
machines, or passing from customers to tills, could.

The technology remains relatively expensive (20-30 cents a chip), and there
is still work to be done hammering out what people want in the way of
security standards, durability and the amount of information that can be
stored. But Infineon says that these problems could be ironed out within 30
months, and possibly much faster than that. Critics sound a warning,
however, that long delays are likely in reaching an international agreement
on a cryptographic security standard.

One bank, at least, seems interested in the idea. Late last year,
Electronic Engineering Times reported that the European Central Bank (ECB)
was working with "technology partners" to embed the tags into euro notes by
2005-as a means of foiling counterfeiters. The ECB will only say of the
project, "we don't want to talk about this." Nevertheless, two chip
manufacturers, Philips and Infineon, admit to having signed confidentiality
agreements with some firms in the industry. Hitachi says it has been
discussing the issue with European banknote makers.

Obviously, such tags would make counterfeiters' lives far more difficult.
But according to De La Rue, a British firm that is one of the world's
leading "security" printers and paper makers, the ECB is already aware of
many new anti-counterfeiting technologies that would be just as robust as,
and less expensive than, RFID. If this is the case, the additional benefits
of RFID banknotes-such as the greater ease with which cash could be
tracked-are the likeliest explanation for why the technology is now
attracting serious consideration.

RFID-tagged notes mean that it would be possible to gather "real-time"
inventories of notes within banks. And, if cash registers were equipped
with authorised readers (tags can also interrogate reading machines to
establish a reader's "authority" to ask particular questions), details of
the transaction and the notes involved could be collated in a central
database.

Accurate knowledge, and monitoring, of the population of banknotes could be
a powerful tool. The mining of data on how different banknotes move through
the economy would make it easy to spot suspicious transactions-for example,
a large deposit of notes that had been out of circulation for a long time.

There are further possibilities. Known

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RE: Cruel and unusual punishment

2002-02-10 Thread Anonymous

Aimee wrote:

>Assassination has proven a poor political
>solution for revolutionary climates, People's
>War, and political agendas. Killing only gets
>you a body. Michael Collins was proficient 
>(Anglo-Irish War >1916-1921), but even he caught
> the bullet -- and he had a lot of things going
>for him that some of you don't. Ever since,
>people have tried to use assassination as a tool
>for this genre of warfare. The problem is
>reprisals and replacement.

Sure, but as any member of a Mossad Kidon worth
his (or her) salt can tell you, the real trick
lies in making a death look like a result
of "natural causes". If the killer was skillful
to the point that nobody can even recognize it
an assassination, I'd call that a success.

As someone I knew who used to work for the US
government once told me, the only "perfect crime"
is the one for which you aren't even a suspect.
Perfectly sound reasoning--and if he knew this as
a civilian there's no reason on this earth to
think he would forget it the minute he signed up
at the DO. 

> If you go around and just start killing people,
>you will be branded with criminality, rather
>than a people's cause. 

Absolutely. Which is why the ex-military white
trash lowlifes hired by CIA to do wetwork wrap
themselves in patriotism, the finest "just cause"
of all. 

I know those qualifiers are going to sound a
little harsh but if you ever met one you'd know
what I mean. I don't mean to imply they aren't 
genuinely and sincerely patriotic, either. They
are. Which makes the whole enterprise even
stranger.

>Assuming AP was possible, why would ANYBODY want >uncontrolled assassination?

Drug lords, mobsters and government security
agencies all know assassination is pretty damn
close to "uncontrolled" right now. It's only
these fatass cerebral couch potato commandos and 
schizoid tech nerds who don't have the skills
and/or courage of their convictions to actually
put down the snackycakes, get off the fucking
couch and make something happen who think AP is
anything to write home about. There's not a doubt
in my mind people use encryption to facilitate
assasinations as it is. AP is just a loser's wet
dream: "what if we weren't so abysmally impotent!"
"what if someone paid attention to me!" "What if
I could use the four bucks my mother gave me to
KILLL someone who said something I didn't like on
a mailing list!" Fucking pathetic.

>Also, in today's culture, anonymous
>assassination is not want most assassins
>want. They want identification, because of
>the "pussy-profile" associated
>with amateur assassins, and assassination meme
>followers.

Government assassins don't share this motivation. 
What this implies about your use of the
word "most" remains to be seen. 

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Fw: The War on Terror's Newest Target: America's Kids (fwd)

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate



-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:03:24 -0500
Subject: Fw: The War on Terror's Newest Target: America's Kids


Excellent...  The soccer mom line needs to find it's way to an RTS action.


- Original Message -
> Published on Thursday, February 7, 2002 by Arianna Huffington
> The War on Terror's Newest Target: America's Kids
> by Arianna Huffington
>
> Did you know you are harboring terrorists in your furnished basement? To
> the terrible trio of Iran, Iraq and North Korea, we've now got to add
> millions of American kids. At least that's the cock and bull story the
> commander in chief is peddling with a slick new $10 million ad campaign
> that is one of the most offensive displays of drug war propaganda ever. And
> that's saying something.
>
> The TV spots, which for maximum impact premiered during the Super Bowl,
> promote the twisted reasoning that, since drug profits have found their way
> into the pockets of terrorists, any young Americans who use drugs are
> therefore guilty of aiding and abetting the enemy.
>
> In one particularly odious ad, a series of fresh-faced young people are
> shown copping to a host of terrorist atrocities: "I helped kids learn how
> to kill;" "I helped murder families in Colombia;" "I helped blow up
> buildings."
>
> It's a Madison Avenue-slick dramatization of the president's meaningless
> assertion that "If you quit drugs, you join the fight against terror in
> America." If that goad pushes a single drug user into newly responsible
> behavior, I'll donate my fee for this column to the president's reelection
> fund. But if I win the bet, 10 million of your tax dollars will have been
> wasted.
>
> Apparently, in The World According to George W. Bush and his drug czar,
> John Walters, the kid smoking a joint at a party is the moral equivalent of
> Osama bin Laden or Mohammed Atta.
>
> In the single largest ad buy the federal government has ever made, the
> White House spent nearly $3.5 million to get these commercials on the Super
> Bowl -- $3.5 million spent not on treatment but on demonizing America's
> young people. Our tax dollars at work.
>
> And that's just a minute portion of the $180 million dollars a year the
> drug office spends on ads. But they've really upped the ante this time.
> It's one thing to drop an egg into a frying pan to demonstrate that drugs
> are bad for you, and quite another to link drug users to bloodthirsty
> murderers.
>
> These ads make it seem like the next logical step in the war on terrorism
> is dropping Daisy Cutters on America's high schools and shipping teen-age
> drug users off to Guantanamo Bay. With 54 percent of high school seniors
> admitting they've used illicit drugs, it's going to get awfully crowded
> down in Cuba.
>
> In addition to setting new standards for illogic, the ads are also
> exercises in highly selective finger-pointing. We know, for instance, that
> bin Laden and al-Qaida used tens of millions of dollars in profits from the
> diamond industry to fund their operations. So how come we didn't see a
> commercial with a woman, say, a senator's wife, fingering the diamonds on
> her sparkling tennis bracelet and admitting: "I helped kids learn how to
> kill?" And, given the fact that 15 out of the 19 hijackers, and most of the
> detainees in Cuba, came from Saudi Arabia -- where the ruling family,
> glutted with oil profits, has coddled extremists for decades -- why no
> taxpayer-funded ad showing a soccer mom filling up her SUV and saying: "I
> helped blow up buildings?"
>
> Simple. Linking diamonds or oil to terror doesn't fit the Bush agenda.
> Conflating the war on drugs with the war on terrorism does. These ads are
> nothing more than a lame-brained attempt to give the drug war a desperately
> needed makeover -- turning it from a dismal, multibillion dollar failure
> into a vital front in America's war against the Evil Ones. "Just Say No"
> repackaged as "The Battle Hymn of the Republic." After all, any suggested
> front in the War on Terrorism can't be questioned without the questioner
> being labeled unpatriotic.
>
> You can almost hear the wheels turning inside the heads of the White House
> spinmeisters: "The War on Drugs is a loser, but the War on Terror's got
> big-time legs. So all we've got to do is blend the two of them together
> and, bingo, no more pesky people asking if the $20 billion a year we keep
> throwing at the drug war is worth it."
>
> It's hardly a coincidence that just one day after the Super Bowl ads aired,
> the White House released a new foreign aid budget that escalates U.S.
> military assistance to Colombian troops battling drug traffickers.
>
> At the end of the movie "Traffic," Michael Douglas' dispirited drug czar
> crystallizes the madness of the drug war: "If there is a war on drugs, then
> many of our family members are the enemy. And I don't know how you wage war
> on your own family." Clearly the Bush administration has no such misgivings.
>

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New York Daily News Online | News and Views | Beyond the City | Insider Book on W: Hail to the Cheez Doodles

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate


Why am I not surprised...

http://www.nydailynews.com/2002-02-10/News_and_Views/Beyond_the_City/a-140875.asp

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Re: Uptight texan Assholes analyze WSF,Brazil meet.

2002-02-10 Thread comsec os


very good
pj
- Original Message - 
From: proffr11 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:51 AM
Subject: Uptight texan Assholes analyze WSF,Brazil meet.


> 
> http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=132398&group=webcast
> Anti-Globalists Make a Play for Legitimacy
> 
> Summary
> 
> The latest World Social Forum indicates that the anti-
> globalization movement is attempting to address two fundamental
> weaknesses -- a lack of legitimacy and a lack of organization.
> Though the disparate groups are unlikely to ever forge a unified
> coalition that can challenge the global power brokers, pushing
> their agenda through established, mainstream organizations like
> the United Nations could allow them to affect policy on local and
> national levels.
> 
> Analysis
> 
> An anti-globalization group known as the International Forum on
> Globalization (IFG) released several recommendations for
> restructuring the global economy Feb. 2 at the World Social Forum
> (WSF) in Porto Alegre, Brazil. The recommendations range from
> limiting corporate power to folding a wide range of new
> responsibilities and regulatory powers into the United Nations.
> 
> The substance of this and other proposals coming out of Porto
> Alegre is less significant than the fact that the anti-
> globalization movement is clearly seeking to move beyond its
> radical, protest-driven roots to develop a concrete agenda. WSF
> organizers and many of its participants are focused on bringing
> the anti-globalization agenda into the mainstream. Part of this
> strategy will include using more mainstream groups and
> organizations, like the U.N., as a platform for their agenda.
> 
> The WSF -- which brings together a number of activist groups,
> including the IFG -- will never operate from a position of global
> power and therefore will not bring about major changes in global
> policies and organizations. However, by working its agenda
> through established organizations, the diverse members of the
> anti-globalization movement may be able to gain more leverage at
> the local and national level. At the same time, groups could find
> themselves in unusual partnerships against a common enemy: the
> United States.
> 
> The history of the anti-globalization movement -- which comprises
> non-governmental organizations, leftist politicians, advocates
> and protesters -- has actually worked against it. The movement is
> still saddled with images of anarchists trashing Starbucks at the
> 1999 World Trade Organization meeting in Seattle and agro-
> protestors burning genetically modified corn in a Brazilian field
> owned by Mansanto last year at the first WSF summit. The
> prevailing view in many circles is that WSF participants are
> largely angry contrarians and malcontents who lack serious
> alternatives to the status quo, so they are disregarded.
> 
> WSF organizers and participants are now attempting to address two
> fundamental weaknesses: a lack of legitimacy -- which is closely
> tied to its public image problems -- and a lack of organization.
> 
> While media coverage of the 1999 WTO meeting and last year's WSF
> summit focused primarily on the protests, most reports from Porto
> Alegre this year point to a more substantive agenda, one full of
> serious debate on issues and viable alternatives to the status
> quo.
> 
> Headlines like "More Focus on Policy than Protest" from the
> Associated Press and "Serious Ideas Behind the Theatrics" in the
> Financial Times represent serious victories for the WSF. The
> message now being delivered is that anti-globalists are not all
> completely against "globalization" per se, but rather against
> what they term "unfettered globalization" or "unrestrained
> corporate power." Rather than dwelling on the unadulterated evils
> of globalization, they talk of "progressive social reform."
> 
> "We say 'yes' to globalization, but with some limits," WSF
> delegate Louise Beaudouin, the foreign minister of Quebec
> province, was quoted as saying by the Associated Press.
> 
> Some of those limits were outlined in the IFG report as well as
> in a closing document adopted by the summit. Broadly, proposed
> reforms centered around increasing aid to the developing world,
> improving global governance, reining in corporate power and the
> movement of capital and placing more protections on labor and the
> environment. The United States and large multi-national
> corporations remain the main antagonists.
> 
> In another bow to legitimacy, WSF organizers sought to diminish
> the presence and influence of more radical elements. They shunned
> anarchist groups and kept other figures at a distance -- such as
> radical French farmer Jose Bove, who made his name by burning
> down a McDonald's in France and led the burning of the Mansanto
> field last year.
> 
> Certain attendees also added to the legitimacy of the WSF.
> Several World Bank and U.N. officials attended, including U.N.

Re: compulsory youth patriotism camps

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Mark Henderson wrote:

> Maybe there is something to be said for making the indoctrination of 
> youth in America's schools overt rather than covert. 

What? Other than a clearer demonstration of the lack of respect for the
1st by the 'powers that be'.

"We believe in democracy, and we'll tell you what that means."

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Konformist: SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT ENRON'S CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS

2002-02-10 Thread Jei


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SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT ENRON'S CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS:
Did Enron Successfully Buy Influence With The Money It Spent? 
By JOHN W. DEAN 
 
Friday, Jan. 18, 2002

This is Part One of a two-part series by Mr. Dean on Enron. Part Two 
will appear on this site on February 1. - Ed.

Enron spent big money in Washington. According to available records, 
Enron lavished near $5.8 million in political contributions on 
various candidates (Congresspersons, Senators, the President and Vice 
President) over the last decade, with almost seventy-five percent of 
it going to Republicans. Indeed, according to one report, Enron and 
its officials spent $2 million on George W. Bush's political career 
alone, starting with his first (unsuccessful) run for Congress. 

What, I have been wondering, did spreading all that money around 
Washington accomplish? Notwithstanding protestations to the contrary, 
American businessmen don't make large political contributions because 
they love their country. Rather they are investments, on which they 
want a return. But what did Enron get for its money? As discussed 
below, I have concluded it received quite a lot. 

The mere fact that Enron's contributions did not buy off 
investigations into the largest bankruptcy in history means little - 
it would have been hard not to investigate given the dramatic 
allegations now being made. And prior to the eleventh hour, Enron's 
contributions seem to have purchased quite a bit of influence, as 
they were no doubt meant to do. 

Highly Questionable Accounting May Disguise Quid Pro Quos

To begin with it, it is worth noting that any quid pro quo relating 
to Enron may be especially hard to track; indeed, Enron may have 
contributed much more than the $5.8 million of which we are currently 
aware. We may never know, for Enron's reporting and record-keeping 
are not very good, as everyone is learning. 

Apparently typical is Enron's auditing firm, Arthur Andersen, which 
not only destroyed records, but also apparently failed to make itself 
privy to all of Enron's 2,832 subsidiaries' operations - the losses 
of which seems to have been kept off the balance sheet, while their 
assets and income were included. That's a neat bookkeeping trick; 
they didn't teach that one in my five years of studying accounting. 

Much of this subsidiary activity was not only off the balance sheets, 
but also offshore. About a third of these partnerships are registered 
in the Cayman Islands or other secrecy havens, which may make it 
impossible to unravel the worst corporate collapse in American 
history. Any quid pro quos, too, may be hard to root out. 

Buying Washington Influence: The Typical Goal of Big Contributors

Having been involved in fund raising, I have few illusions about what 
is involved - particularly with the heavy hitters. There are many 
contributors - indeed, by far the greatest number - who give what 
they can afford to the candidate in whom they believe, hoping he or 
she will win. But these are typically the small contributors. Big 
money comes from wealthy persons and organizations who want 
something - in most cases, something that will add more to their 
wealth. 

First, the big hitters want access. They usually have business 
dealings with the federal government and they want to be able to 
plead their case directly to decisionmakers, should they need to do 
so. 

Others want special favors, everything from an ambassadorship to 
favorable legislation or regulation of their business. Heavy 
contributors are usually well schooled in how to make their 
contribution and stay within the law. When they are not, the smart 
politician returns their money, and advises them on how to make the 
contribution legal, and the contribution, in the end, gets made just 
the same. 

Enron, like many businesses who want something from Washington 
officials, spread its money broadly. According to The Center for 
Responsive Politics, which tracks political contributions, Enron gave 
$530,493 to seventy-one senators since 1989, and $603,488 to 187 
House members. Mostly Republicans were recipients, although important 
Democrats who could affect Enron's business were not overlooked.

Enron's Investment In Politicians: A Better Return than Commentators 
Think

On January 15, Time magazine ran a story entitled "For Enron, 
Washington May Have Been a Bad Investment." The story concludes that 
Kenneth Lay & Company did not get much for their money, other 
than "[a] seat at the table for Dick Cheney's energy-policy 
formulations - OK, six seats - and the grace of the Enron-friendly 
energy policy that resulted. Possibly veto power over the head of the 
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission - former chief Curtis Hebert Jr. 
says Bush r

Re: compulsory youth patriotism camps

2002-02-10 Thread Mark Henderson


Maybe there is something to be said for making the indoctrination of 
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Re: Cruel and unusual punishment.

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Going back to the earlier case, I suspect it'll be overturned by the
> supremes.  Lawyer types correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe
> the SC has consistently held that the ban on cruel and
> unusual punishment only bans certain punishments
> for any offenses (torture, maiming, branding), it doesn't ban
> excessive punishment for any particular crime, except where 
> money is involved.  Certainly that view is consistent with the
> text:
> 
> Amendment VIII
> Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, 
> nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Where do you get the issue of money being involved? Bail comes BEFORE any
conviction.

Sending somebody to jail for life for any crime where harm to a person
(not property) is not involved is cruel and unusual.

There is the issue that such 3 strike laws violate some of the basic ideas
of justice and fairness. When a person finishes their term as a
consequence for a crime they have paid their dues. It is even. Coming back
later and trying to hold that against them is simply unconstitutional.

You can't throw somebody in jail for being thrown in jail before and that
is ALL that three strike laws do. Other than increase the cost of the
legal system to the rest of the community.

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Re: Cruel and unusual punishment

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate



On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Anonymous wrote:

> Second, what AP proponents do not realise, is that working AP would greatly
> cut the costs incurred by the state, and that the state would be the single
> most important user of the AP. 

Actually they'd be in a race with corporate america.


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Re: Choate charged over molesting small gerbils

2002-02-10 Thread proffr11


 >>I don't promise anything, Yes, you did. And running for office is 
irrelevant. Every time you stand up and promote anarchy (or any other 
political or philosophical view) you are promising something. An answer to 
the problems we face.<<

Well anarchy seems the best way forward to me.Its got answers for 
everything I can think of.Whats your poison?

  >>Your problem is you can't back up your claims with respect to anarchy. <<

Makhno? Durruti? What about Magon? There's a heap of hidden hirstory you 
seem ignorant of.Anarchy,for want of a better word is good,anarchy 
works.You cant back up your own website,I gave up after two dead links.

 >>Just another CACL spin doctor blowhard. <<

Jamesd has me down as a Statist.I am closer to CALCers than Statist's.Some 
CALCers have come to anarchy,famously,jim bell.What of crypto-anarchy 
jimbo? You come over as a plain vanilla blowhard.
Will slashdot solve anything? Hundreds of whinging geeks deserve each 
other,we don't deserve them or you,go back to road kill texas you gerbil 
molesting imbecile.Mongo makes more sense.

Re: Choate charged over molesting small gerbils

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, proffr11 wrote:

> Well anarchy seems the best way forward to me.Its got answers for 
> everything I can think of.

So you admit to making promises after all.

Actually it has no answers, only promises. The primary problem with
anarchy is exemplified by your own behaviour.

How does it feel being your own worst enemy?

> Whats your poison?

You have the attention span of a gnat. Democracy.

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James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com

RE: Cruel and unusual punishment

2002-02-10 Thread Anonymous


>you don't. Ever since, people have tried to use assassination as a tool for
>this genre of warfare. The problem is reprisals and replacement.

First, assassinations work, but must be done properly and on a massive scale.

It's called "war" and it depletes the replacements for sure.

Second, what AP proponents do not realise, is that working AP would greatly
cut the costs incurred by the state, and that the state would be the single
most important user of the AP.

Police interview proffr over seized laptop.(After 8 months.)

2002-02-10 Thread proffr11


Bomb bomb.I may be charged with making death threats in "e-mail's"(police 
description.) directed toward the victorian police and a State govt 
(victorian.)minister,Rob 'buckethead'Hulls.A policeman ,who killed a 
citizen and was found with KKK literature and extensive weaponry 
collection,norman scott cheasley's name was mentioned as was the Police 
commissioner,C.Nixon.The two post's looked more like warnings than threats.
One was posted at a board where "anyone can download"(police prosecutor 
under oath.) early last year.
The 2cnd mentioned was made just hours prior to the serving of a warrant.It 
was not mentioned in the warrant.(couldn't have been.)So on the basis of 
basically one post made to one (anarchist,according to police.) 
website,(that doesn't require registration or keep logs) The police have 
seized my laptop,kept it over 8 months and still have to bring actual 
charges.They may still not bring charges.The post's seem so incoherent as 
to be nonsensical.Assassination politics was not mentioned during the 
interview though it featured strongly at my bail hearing last year and was 
fairly widely reported in the tabloid and local papers.Indymedia,where the 
post's were left (not e-mailed) by person or persons unknown,has had a 
couple of legal problems,one of them allegedly by me at the (now defunct) 
Ohio valley site.I do remember making that post.(stephen Roach,dead man 
walking.)
I made a "no comment' interview under legal advice.I deny making death 
threats, or any threats actually,I'm advocating assassination politics or 
APster strictly for its value as entertainment journalism.I will vigorously 
defend any charges bought arising from this gross abuse of State power.I 
hope to sue the police for malicious prosecution.I will certainly be 
complaining to the ombudsman.One attempt to retrieve the dell has already 
cost the taxpayers thousands of dollars.
A million mojo-dollars and 15 feet of pure white snow
for the head of george walker bush,payment on delivery. pr.

Wall St. faces tough rules - Feb. 7, 2002

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate


http://money.cnn.com/2002/02/07/investing/conflict_rules/
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James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com

Re: CDR: Re: Choate charged over molesting small gerbils

2002-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, proffr11 wrote:

>  >>Irrelevant to the issue at hand. Nice strawman though. The fact is that 
> you promise something that AP can't deliver, a better answer. <<
> 
> I don't promise anything,

Yes, you did. And running for office is irrelevant.

Every time you stand up and promote anarchy (or any other political or
philosophical view) you are promising something. An answer to the problems
we face.

Your problem is you can't back up your claims with respect to anarchy.

Just another CACL spin doctor blowhard.

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James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com

Overnight delivery $7.50 Viagra

2002-02-10 Thread fsaoija300












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