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RE: Ross's TCPA paper
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RE: Ross's TCPA paper
On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Lucky Green wrote: > Anonymous writes: > > Lucky Green writes regarding Ross Anderson's paper at: > > Ross and Lucky should justify their claims to the community > > in general and to the members of the TCPA in particular. If > > you're going to make accusations, you are obliged to offer > > evidence. Is the TCPA really, as they claim, a secretive > > effort to get DRM hardware into consumer PCs? Or is it, as > > the documents on the web site claim, a general effort to > > improve the security in systems and to provide new > > capabilities for improving the trustworthiness of computing platforms? > > Anonymous raises a valid question. To hand Anonymous additional rope, I > will even assure the reader that when questioned directly, the members > of the TCPA will insist that their efforts in the context of TCPA are > concerned with increasing platform security in general and are not > targeted at providing a DRM solution. > > Unfortunately, and I apologize for having to disappoint the reader, I do > not feel at liberty to provide the proof Anonymous is requesting myself, > though perhaps Ross might. (I have no first-hand knowledge of what Ross > may or may not be able to provide). That makes the claim a might weak, at least in my perspective. > I however encourage readers familiar with the state of the art in PC > platform security to read the TCPA specifications, read the TCPA's > membership list, read the Hollings bill, and then ask themselves if they > are aware of, or can locate somebody who is aware of, any other > technical solution that enjoys a similar level of PC platform industry > support, is anywhere as near to wide-spread production as TPM's, and is > of sufficient integration into the platform to be able to form the > platform basis for meeting the requirements of the Hollings bill. Is the Hollings bill you refer to S.2048? In S.2048 they want to "plug the analog hole". It's far worse both econmicly and "big brother" wise. How are they going to deal with all the processors now running that don't have this "fritz" chip? Deny them access to data? Won't win over a whole lot of votes that way, pissing off every grandfather in the country. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
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RE: Ross's TCPA paper
Anonymous writes: > Lucky Green writes regarding Ross Anderson's paper at: > Ross and Lucky should justify their claims to the community > in general and to the members of the TCPA in particular. If > you're going to make accusations, you are obliged to offer > evidence. Is the TCPA really, as they claim, a secretive > effort to get DRM hardware into consumer PCs? Or is it, as > the documents on the web site claim, a general effort to > improve the security in systems and to provide new > capabilities for improving the trustworthiness of computing platforms? Anonymous raises a valid question. To hand Anonymous additional rope, I will even assure the reader that when questioned directly, the members of the TCPA will insist that their efforts in the context of TCPA are concerned with increasing platform security in general and are not targeted at providing a DRM solution. Unfortunately, and I apologize for having to disappoint the reader, I do not feel at liberty to provide the proof Anonymous is requesting myself, though perhaps Ross might. (I have no first-hand knowledge of what Ross may or may not be able to provide). I however encourage readers familiar with the state of the art in PC platform security to read the TCPA specifications, read the TCPA's membership list, read the Hollings bill, and then ask themselves if they are aware of, or can locate somebody who is aware of, any other technical solution that enjoys a similar level of PC platform industry support, is anywhere as near to wide-spread production as TPM's, and is of sufficient integration into the platform to be able to form the platform basis for meeting the requirements of the Hollings bill. Would Anonymous perhaps like to take this question? --Lucky Green
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Re: Ross's TCPA paper
Lucky Green writes regarding Ross Anderson's paper at: http://www.ftp.cl.cam.ac.uk/ftp/users/rja14/toulouse.pdf > I must confess that after reading the paper I am quite relieved to > finally have solid confirmation that at least one other person has > realized (outside the authors and proponents of the bill) that the > Hollings bill, while failing to mention TCPA anywhere in the text of the > bill, was written with the specific technology provided by the TCPA in > mind for the purpose of mandating the inclusion of this technology in > all future general-purpose computing platforms, now that the technology > has been tested, is ready to ship, and the BIOS vendors are on side. It's an interesting claim, but there is only one small problem. Neither Ross Anderson nor Lucky Green offers any evidence that the TCPA (http://www.trustedcomputing.org) is being designed for the support of digital rights management (DRM) applications. In fact if you look at the documents on the TCPA web site you see much discussion of applications such as platform-based ecommerce (so that even if a user's keys get stolen they can't be used on another PC), securing corporate networks (assuring that each workstation is running an IT-approved configuration), detecting viruses, and enhancing the security of VPNs. DRM is not mentioned. Is the claim by Ross and Lucky that the TCPA is a fraud, secretly designed for the purpose of supporting DRM while using the applications above merely as a cover to hide their true purposes? If so, shouldn't we expect to see the media content companies as supporters of this effort? But the membership list at http://www.trustedcomputing.org/tcpaasp4/members.asp shows none of the usual suspects. Disney's not there. Sony's not there. No Viacom, no AOL/Time/Warner, no News Corp. The members are all technology companies, including crypto companies like RSA, Verisign and nCipher. Contrast this for example with the Brodcast Protection Discussion Group whose ongoing efforts are being monitored by the EFF at http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/HDTV/. There you do find the big media companies. That effort is plainly aimed at protecting information and supporting DRM, so it makes sense that the companies most interested in those goals are involved. But with the TCPA, the players are completely different. And unlike with the BPDG, the rationale being offered is not based on DRM but on improving the trustworthiness of software for many applications. Ross and Lucky should justify their claims to the community in general and to the members of the TCPA in particular. If you're going to make accusations, you are obliged to offer evidence. Is the TCPA really, as they claim, a secretive effort to get DRM hardware into consumer PCs? Or is it, as the documents on the web site claim, a general effort to improve the security in systems and to provide new capabilities for improving the trustworthiness of computing platforms?
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anonymous cooperation is stable if opting out possible
>Subject: anonymous cooperation is stable if opting out possible > >Volunteering as Red Queen Mechanism for Cooperation in Public Goods Games >Christoph Hauert, Silvia De Monte, Josef Hofbauer, and Karl Sigmund >Science May 10 2002: 1129-1132. > > >Volunteering as Red Queen Mechanism for Cooperation in Public Goods > Games > > Christoph Hauert,12 Silvia De Monte,13 Josef Hofbauer,1 Karl Sigmund14* > > The evolution of cooperation among nonrelated individuals is one of the fundamental problems in biology and social sciences. > Reciprocal altruism fails to provide a solution if interactions are not repeated often enough or groups are too large. Punishment > and reward can be very effective but require that defectors can be traced and identified. Here we present a simple but effective > mechanism operating under full anonymity. Optional participation can foil exploiters and overcome the social dilemma. In > voluntary public goods interactions, cooperators and defectors will coexist. We show that this result holds under very diverse > assumptions on population structure and adaptation mechanisms, leading usually not to an equilibrium but to an unending cycle of > adjustments (a Red Queen type of evolution). Thus, voluntary participation offers an escape hatch out of some social traps. > Cooperation can subsist in sizable groups even if interactions are not repeated, defectors remain anonymous, players have no > memory, and assortment is purely random. > > 1 Institute for Mathematics, University of Vienna, Strudlhofgasse 4, A-1090 Vienna, Austria. > 2 Department of Zoology, University of British Columbia, 6270 University Boulevard, Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z4. > 3 Department of Physics, Danish Technical University, DK-2800 Kgs. Lyngby, Denmark. > 4 International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis (IIASA), A-2361 Laxenburg, Austria. > * To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CP meet at H2K2?
dmolnar wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Greg Newby wrote: > > >>the next couple of days. I'm thinking of a CP >>meet Saturday night July 12. Anyone else gonna be there? > > > I should be there, since I'm free and in the area. > > In a similar vein, who's going to be at DEF CON? Me :-) Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff
