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[ 15 July 2002 ]
The Talent Myth
Interesting article on the disconnect between performance and
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( Malcolm Gladwell via New Yorker
)
They don't like it up 'em
Article about the US media's 'sinister' reaction to
John Pilger's recent commentaries in
the Daily Mirror 
( Roy Greenslade via Guardian )
See also this Independent article
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US planning to recruit one in 24 Americans as
citizen spies
Article about the Terrorism
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world seeking political asylum'; see this
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Contact Us.

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Managing and Creating your SoftCoin Account
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Using SoftCoin Codes

I can't read my Code
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* The code number has been entered incorrectly. Use the guide below to
make sure that correct letters and numbers have been entered.

  If you read: Try entering as:
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  (The number) 8 B
  Z (The number) 2
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  S (The number) 5
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My Code isn't being accepted.
Please try re-entering your code. Double-check your letters and numbers to
make sure that they have been entered correctly. Please note that some
characters may look similar to other letters or numbers. Use the chart
below to distinguish between valid and invalid characters:

If you read: Try entering as:
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(The number) 8 B
Z (The number) 2
(The number) 2 Z
S (The number) 5
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(The number) 0 D
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I Activated my Code but it's not in my account.
Please make sure that your code was accepted. If your code was accepted,
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Managing and Creating your SoftCoin Account

My username and/or password doesn't work.
I forgot my username and/or password.
Please refer to the confirmation email that you received after creating
your account. It contains your username and password. Enter these exactly
as listed.

If you can't remember your username and/or password, and can't find your
reference email, please click here to have it emailed to the email address
you provided when you created your account.

How many characters can I make my username and password?
Usernames and passwords can be from 6 to 16 characters long. For both the
username and password, you can use any combination of both numbers and
letters.

Do I have to use my real name for my username?
No, you do not have to use your real name when creating your "Easy Mac
E-Cash " username. SoftCoin is concerned about your online privacy and we
recommend that you DO NOT use your real name as your username. SoftCoin
wants to provide users with a completely anonymous way to use SoftCoin
powered programs. Please see our privacy policy for more information.

Can I opt-out of receiving emails in the future?
Yes, you can opt-out of receiving any future emails from SoftCoin or our
partners. You can do so by opting out during the registration process,
through the edit account page, or by contacting our consumer support team.
To learn more about our opt-out or permission based policies, click here.

How do I update or change my e-mail address?
To change your email address, you may edit your account by clicking on the
"my account" link at the top of each page of the promotional website. When
logged into your account, click on "edit my account". Or, contact our
consumer support team by going to the "contact us" link at the bottom of
any page of the promotional website.

How do I use my Code at an Internet shopping site?
To use your code, you will need to access the participating Internet
shopping sites by going through the "Easy Mac E-Cash" promotional website.
Simply follow the instructions on the screen to shop and get your discount.

When can I shop with my "online cash" Code?
Once you activate the "Easy Mac E-Cash" code, you can shop with it at the
participating online retailer you select. All you have to do is enter your
choice of sites via the "Easy Mac E-cash" promotion site, shop at the site
as you normally would and select the products you want to purchase by
putting them in your shopping cart and proceeding to check out. The
SoftCoin system handles the rest. Your code value is deducted from your
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SoftCoin Secures Funding to Accelerate Success in Precision Marketing
Also Announces Addition of Veteran Sales and Corporate Strategy Executives

San Francisco, April 23, 2002 -- SoftCoin, Inc., leading provider of
advanced web marketing, loyalty and promotions technology announced today
the completion of its third round of equity financing. The round, led by
Greylock Partners, provides SoftCoin the necessary funds to continue its
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investors include New York-based RRE Ventures, and previous investors Nokia
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James D. Robinson III, general partner and founder in RRE Ventures.

"We are planning to leverage the extensive experience and network of the
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said Patrick Soheili, chief executive officer of SoftCoin. "SoftCoin has
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this round will go towards scaling our operations to remain at the
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Veteran Executives added to Management Team
Concurrent with this round of investment, the company also announced the
strengthening of its global management team with the addition of John
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as vice president of corporate strategy. John brings over twenty years of
general management experience with expertise in marketing and selling
products ranging from technology to consumer brands. John's career includes
marketing experience at The Procter & Gamble Company, and executive
positions at IBM, The Learning Company and Metaphor. Stan also comes to
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experience includes The Procter & Gamble Company, Accolade/Infograms, Sony
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"We are extremely pleased to have attracted John and Stan to our team. They
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SoftCoin proprietary precision marketing technology powers marketing
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consumers valuable rewards, conduct research, and establish direct
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About SoftCoin
SoftCoin, Inc., is the leading provider of advanced web marketing and
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brands to develop and deliver compelling, customized web-powered marketing
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major Fortune 500 companies including Dole Food Company, Inc., Compaq
Computer, Nokia Mobile Phones, Frito-Lay Corporation, Nestli SA, McDonald's
Corporation, The Procter & Gamble Company, The Quaker Oats Company, H. J.
Heinz Company and Eastman Kodak Company, among others. SoftCoin partners
include leading retailers and premier marketing companies. SoftCoin is a
venture-backed, privately held company, with offices in the San Francisco
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Re: DRM will not be legislated

[David Wagner]

> David Wagner wrote:
> > Anonymous  wrote:
> > > Legislation of DRM is not in the cards, [...]
> >
> > Care to support this claim?  (the Hollings bill and the DMCA requirement
> > for Macrovision in every VCR come to mind as evidence to the contrary)
> 
> To reiterate and lay out the points explicitly:
[... list partially truncated, retaining one illustrative point ...]
>  - Neither the content nor technology companies have incentive to support
>legislation, as they still must convince people that paying for
>content is superior to pirating it.  Legislating DRM will not help
>them in this battle, as piracy will still be an alternative.

You argue that it would be irrational for content companies to push to
have DRM mandated.  This is something we could debate at length, but we
don't need to: rational or not, we already have evidence that content
companies have pushed, and *are* pushing, for some kind of mandated DRM.

The Hollings bill was interesting not for its success or failure, but
for what it reveals the content companies' agenda.  It seems plausible
that its supporters will be back next year with a "compromise" bill --
plausible enough that we'd better be prepared for such a circumstance.

As for Macrovision, your suggested distinction between DRM and
watermarking is too confusing for me to follow.  By any definition I'm
familiar with, Macrovision is DRM.  Sure, one might say that Macrovision
uses watermarking internally as a means to achieve its goals, but
that's besides the point.  DRM refers to *what* security policy a system
enforces, not how it enforces them.  A system can both use watermarking
and be a DRM system -- the two are not incompatible.

As for whether TCPA or Palladium will ever be mandated, that's anyone's
guess, and I don't think anyone knows for sure.  Given this, hadn't we
better plan for the possibility that it becomes mandated?

Re: economics of DRM, was Re: Ross's TCPA paper

[Eric Murray]

On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 07:10:07PM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 10:59:23AM -0700, Eric Murray wrote:
> > Microsoft does not do things simply because they enjoy being evil.
> > They are not so worried about Linux (with its small share of the market)
> > that they will spend mega-bucks now on a very long term project that might
> > possibly let them keep it off some PCs in the far future.  They _are_
> > concerned with getting paid for the 50% of their software that isn't
> > paid for.  There's a shitload of money there, and if getting at some of
> > it costs a little, well, its still more profit than they would
> > have gotten otherwise.
> 
>Isn't it much simpler for them to just write into their OS the ability to
> snitch on what M$ software was on the users machine everytime they go online? In
> fact, I've been assuming that everything from w98 on did exactly that. And
> wouldn't it be trivial for them to check for cracked serial numbers, or
> duplicate serial numbers? 


I don't think 98 does it, but XP does.
It just raised the bar a bit-- there was a pirate version
of Office XP out before the legal version. 


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Re: Which universe are we in? (tossing tennis balls into spinning props)

[Jim Choate]

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote:

> The uncertainty principle says that there is a limit on the information
> about position and change in position that you can collect.  It does not
> rule out internal states.

Yes it does, it says that any time you measure a system it WILL be in an
unknown state after the measurement. No if's, no but's. It effects photons
(which I challenge you to demonstrate has 'charge') as well as electrons
and protons. It's universal. It's about measuring, not about what is being
measured.

The 2nd also comes into play because any mechanism you use to 'manipulate'
that internal state must also effect that state in a negative way.

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IP: New Project: Internet Filtering in Saudi Arabia (fwd)

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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:08:05 -0400
From: David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: IP: New Project: Internet Filtering in Saudi Arabia


-Original Message-
From: Ben Edelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:28:46 
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Subject: New Project: Internet Filtering in Saudi Arabia

Professor Jonathan Zittrain and I have been studying Internet filtering in
multiple countries worldwide ([1]), and we released today our first
investigation in this series.

In recent testing, we designed software to connect to the Internet through
proxy servers in Saudi Arabia, and we subsequently attempted to access
approximately 60,000 Web pages as a means of empirically determining the
scope and pervasiveness of Internet filtering there.  Saudi-installed
filtering systems prevented access to certain requested Web pages; we
tracked a total of 2,038 blocked pages.  Such pages contained information
about religion, health, education, reference, humor, and entertainment.
Specific blocked sites include the Women in American History section of
Encyclopedia Britannica Online (women.eb.com), the Rolling Stone Magazine
(rollingstone.com), Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance
(religioustolerance.org), and the ivillage.com Women's Network, among
hundreds of others.

We conclude that the Saudi government maintains an active interest in
filtering non-sexually explicit Web content for users within the Kingdom. We
also find that substantial amounts of non-sexually explicit Web content is
in fact effectively inaccessible to most Saudi Arabians.  Finally, we note
that much of this content consists of sites that are popular elsewhere in
the world.

Our full report, along with a listing of specific blocked web pages, is
available at
   



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References:

[1] "Documentation of Internet Filtering Worldwide"



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Re: Virtuallizing Palladium

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Probably not worth emulating a Pentium4 in Java, however, there is bochs
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Albion Zeglin wrote:

> Similar to DeCSS, only one Palladium chip needs to be reverse engineered and
> it's key(s) broken to virtualize the machine.  Simulate a Pentium VI in Java and
> all extant code could be accessed.  Similarly, is Microsoft's signing keys were
> cracked  then any code could be signed.
> 
> If the software needs a real-time connection to the internet though, then
> protection could be built into it.  Laptop applications would be vulnerable
> until we have pervasive wireless connection.
> 
> How many bits do you think MS will use for the keys?
> 
> Albion.

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Re: DRM will not be legislated

[AARG! Anonymous]

David Wagner wrote:
> Anonymous  wrote:
> > Legislation of DRM is not in the cards, [...]
>
> Care to support this claim?  (the Hollings bill and the DMCA requirement
> for Macrovision in every VCR come to mind as evidence to the contrary)

The line you quoted was the summary from a message which described
the detailed reasoning that supported the claim.  To reiterate and lay
out the points explicitly:

 - Legislating DRM would be extremely expensive in the current environment
   as it would require phasing out all computers presently in use.
   This provides a huge practical burden and barrier for any legislation
   along these lines.

 - Some have opposed voluntary DRM because they believe that it would
   reduce the barrier above.  Once DRM systems are voluntarily installed
   in a substantial number of systems, it would be a relatively small
   step to mandate them in all systems.

 - But this is false reasoning; if DRM is so successful as to be present
   in a substantial number of systems, it is not necessary to legislate
   it.

 - Further, even if it is legislated, that will not stop piracy.  No
   practical DRM system will prevent people from running arbitrary
   3rd party software (despite absurd arguments by fanatics that the
   government seeks to remove Turing complete computing capabilities
   from the population).

 - Neither the content nor technology companies have incentive to support
   legislation, as they still must convince people that paying for
   content is superior to pirating it.  Legislating DRM will not help
   them in this battle, as piracy will still be an alternative.

 - What would help them legislatively is some kind of enforced
   watermarking technology, so that the initial "ripping" of content is
   impossible (this also requires closing the analog hole).  Only by
   intervening at this first step can they hope to break the piracy
   chain, and this is the real purpose of the Hollings bill.  See also
   the recent work by the BPDG.  But this is not DRM in the sense we
   are discussing it here.

Those were the points made earlier in support of the summary statement
quoted above.  As far as the Hollings bill in particular, the most notable
aspect of it was the tremendous opposition from virtually every sector of
the economy.  The Hollings bill was not just a failure, it was a massive,
DOA, stinking heap of failure which had not even the slightest chance
of success.  If anything, the failure of the Hollings bill fully supports
the thesis that legislation of DRM is not going to happen.

As for Macrovision, this is an example of "watermarking" technology and
as mentioned above, it does make sense to legislate along these lines
(although it is questionable whether it can work in the long run -
Macrovision defeaters are widely available).  It represents an attempt
to close the analog hole.

The point is that this is not a simple-minded or unreflective analysis.
We are looking specifically at the kind of DRM enabled by the TCPA.
This means the ability to run content viewing software that imposes DRM
rules which might limit the number of views, or require pay per view,
or require data to be deleted if it is copied elsewhere, etc.  The point
of TCPA and Palladium is for the remote content provider to be assured
that the software it is talking to across the net is a trusted piece of
software which will enforce the rules.

It is this kind of DRM to which the analysis above is directed.  This DRM
does not prevent piracy using any of the techniques available today, or
via exploiting bugs and flaws in future technology.  It does not and can
not prevent people from running file sharing programs and making pirated
content available on the Internet (at least without crippling computers
to the point where necessary business functionality is lost, which would
mean sending the country into a deep depression and making it an obsolete
competitor on world markets, i.e. it won't happen).  This kind of DRM
can nevertheless succeed on a voluntary basis by providing good quality
for good value, in conjunction with technological and legal attacks on
P2P systems such as are in their infancy now.

All of these arguments have been made in the past few weeks on this list.
Hopefully reiterating them in one place will be helpful to those who
have overlooked them in the past.

Re: Virtuallizing Palladium

[Nomen Nescio]

Ben Laurie wrote:
> Albion Zeglin wrote:
> > Similar to DeCSS, only one Palladium chip needs to be reverse engineered and
> > it's key(s) broken to virtualize the machine.
>
> If you break one machine's key:
>
> a) You won't need to virtualise it
>
> b) It won't be getting any new software licensed to it

This is true, if you do like DeCSS and try to publish software with the
key in it.  The content consortium will put the cert for that key onto
a CRL, and the key will stop working.

The other possibility is to simply keep the key secret and use it to strip
DRM protection from content, then release the now-free data publicly.
This will work especially well if the companies offer free downloads of
content with some kind of restrictions that you can strip off.  If you
have to pay for each download before you can release it for free, then
you better be a pretty generous guy.

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Re: Which universe are we in? (tossing tennis balls into spinning props)

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At 03:27 PM 7/15/02 +0100, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
>> Optimizzin Al-gorithym wrote:
>
>> And while QM can't help you with a particular atom, it also doesn't
say
>> that its impossible that knowledge of internal states of the atom
>> wouldn't help you predict its fragmentation.
>
>Yes it does.
>
>Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Ring a Bell?

The uncertainty principle says that there is a limit on the information
about
position and change in position that you can collect.  It does not rule
out
internal states.  For instance, you could generate particles with a
certain property
which you do not have to measure to know that they have that property.

It is a logical mistake to think that because you can't see it in 2002,
you can't ever
measure it, or it doesn't exist.  When something appears 'random', it is
because of
(wholly normal) ignorance on our part.   Sometimes 'randomness' is used
to
shut off analytic machinery, much like 'God'  (this latter idea is
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Re: Which universe are we in? (tossing tennis balls into spinning props)

[Peter Fairbrother]

> Optimizzin Al-gorithym wrote:

> At 03:21 PM 7/14/02 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote:
>> Eric Cordian wrote:
>>> Still, Nature abhors overcomplexification, and plain old quantum
> mechanics
>>> works just fine for predicting the results of experiments.
>> 
>> Oh yeah? So predict when this radioactive isotope will decay, if you
> please.
> 
> You mean "this particular *atom* will decay".
> 
> And while QM can't help you with a particular atom, it also doesn't say
> that its impossible that knowledge of internal states of the atom
> wouldn't help you predict its fragmentation.

Yes it does. 

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