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Re: [OT Canute] Re: [LINK] [Fwd: Interesting KPMG report on DRM]
My apologies to everyone for this inscrutable email, I replied to the wrong email in my inbox and inadvertently sent it instead of the reply being cancelled as I had thought. On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, John Schultz wrote: > Immunity > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: > > > > Robin Whittle[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > . > > [lots of good stuff about the music business clipped] > > > > > I think this is an accurate analysis of a really sad situation. Like > > > King Canute, the record companies are devoting most of their thinking > > > and resources to holding back the tide. > > > > > [even more good stuff clipped] > > > > In the interests of pedantry and accuracy, may I point out that Canute > > did not actually expect to hold back the tide. Canute was an an early > > Danish king of northern England, living ~995-1035. Like most modern > > leaders, he was surrounded by yes-men. Unlike them, he did something > > about it: > > > > - > > [From http://viking.no/e/people/e-knud.htm] > > > > "Let all men know how empty and worthless is the power of kings. > > For there is none worthy of the name but God, whom heaven, earth > > and sea obey". > > > > So spoke King Canute the Great, the legend says, seated on his throne > > on the seashore, waves lapping round his feet. Canute had learned that > > his flattering courtiers claimed he was "So great, he could command the > > tides of the sea to go back". Now Canute was not only a religious man, > > but also a clever politician. He knew his limitations - even if his > > courtiers > > did not - so he had his throne carried to the seashore and sat on it as the > > tide came in, commanding the waves to advance no further. When they > > didn't, he had made his point that, though the deeds of kings might appear > > 'great' in the minds of men, they were as nothing in the face of God's > > power. > > > > > > > > John Schultz > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > John Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
