Anti-Privatisation Activist Murdered.

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat






JOHANNESBURG:
HUMAN RIGHTS
Feb
10 2003 
Anti-Privatisation
Activist Murdered, Attacks
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Early in the morning of February 8 in Orange Farm (an
informal settlement of 1.5 million people south of Johannesburg), 61
year-old Anti-Privatisation Forum APF) and Orange Farm Water Crisis
Committee (OWCC)activist Emily Nengolo, was
shot
dead in her home by two unknown assailants
in what appears to be a politically motivated attack. Over the last year,
the OWCC has been actively and effectively involved in resisting water
and electricity cut-offs and evictions in their community as well as
building community organisation and struggle for meaningful
socio-economic development in response to the neoliberal policies of the
South African government. 
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Cypherpunk hypocrisy.

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat

Pledges to bits of cloth,Oh no,no,no thats just not us at all...a few
letters down Mongo is spouting his statist garbage again,unquestioned and
uncriticized.He is a total nationalist/statist fraud.
If it's silly to pledge to a bit of cloth then why is it OK to practise
parchment worship?
Entirely out of touch with the real currents of contemporary resistance,
you denounce practical opposition to the system as
"nihilism," "Luddism," and other big words you don't
understand. A glance at the world confirms that their utopian capitalism
just can't compete with the state. With enemies like Cypherpunks,
the state doesn't need friends. 
http://ri.xu.org/arbalest/alembic2c.html




Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread jet
At 2:40 + 2003/02/12, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote:
>This one just won't die. People keep repeating it. Not much
>different from Bush's "Time is running out" or "They hate us
>because we love freedom". Would you like to show us the part of
>the twelve page German law of March, 1938 that limits gun
>permits to members of the Nazi party? Uh huh, I didn't think so.

It's been several years since I read the translated copy I purchased from JPFO, so 
it's possible that I am mistaken.   If you've read it recently, I'll take your word 
for it.

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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Sarad AV
hi,

> I've not followed it closely, but Powell claims to
> have a tape of
> Bin Laden talking to "Iraqi's".  Al Jazerra denys
> it's real.  This is
> all from NPR.  The game is afoot, let's see who can
> deliver the bigger
> lie.

A tape as an evidence?Is a tape still considered as a
valid piece of evidence in a court of law?Is it  not
difficult to authenticate and even if
authenticated-with what probability can we say that it
is genuine?

Regards Sarath.


> 
> Patience, persistence, truth,
> Dr. mike
> 


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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
When you get tired of discredited economics,bourgeois and patriarchal 
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CDR: Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists.

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
What about a bomb shelter?
Poverty stricken Britain distributed makeshift shelters during that war on 
terror.(WW2)
Duck and Cover.
Anti-govt paranoid survivalists could build their own like paranoid 
survivalist Leonard Lake.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/ng/wil_2.html
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CDR: The Water Barons - How privatized water supply fails in Manila...(fwd)

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat

>>>Another example of the CACL theory going down the tubes of
actuality...
http://www.icij.org/dtaweb/water/default.aspx?SECTION=CHAPTER&ID=5
<<<
If there was the slightest truth to that theory,(whats it stand for anyway? CALC?)
your worthless statist snitch ass would be rotting up on boot hill.(my 2$ for a headstone)
I would not knock privatized institutions here,after all Mongo would assume the position for private police.



Re: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-11 Thread david

On Tuesday 11 February 2003 09:52, Dr. mike wrote:

> No reason we can't start a movement to plege alegiance to the
> constitution

The main body of the constitution does not apply to the 
individuals, it is the law the politicians and bureaucrats of the 
federal government are supposed to obey (and instead completely 
ignore).  The fourteenth amendment prohibits the state governments 
from violately individual rights.  What is needed is the death 
penalty or life imprisonment for politicians and bureaucrats who 
violate their oaths to uphold the constitution.

The proper recipient of a pledge of allegiance is individual 
liberty.  As Ben Franklin said, "Where liberty dwells, there is my 
country."

David Neilson


"This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties.  A 
nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize 
the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved.  It is in 
the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins."   (also by Ben)



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The Water Barons - How privatized water supply fails in Manila...(fwd)

2003-02-11 Thread Jim Choate

Another example of the CACL theory going down the tubes of actuality...

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Re: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-11 Thread Jim Choate

On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Mike Rosing wrote:

> Some 40+ years ago we had to learn it in kindergarten.  One kid
> refused and they took him out of class.

His and the other kids parents were pussies.

I first went to school about the same time ago, 1966 in Houston. I didn't
do the pledge and they called my parents. The solution, I had to stand but
didn't have to say anything. So that's what I did. Worked for 12 years of
public school (of course after about the 4'th or 5'th grade I don't ever
remember having to do it in school except perhaps at assembly or a
sports event). Reminds me of the time in 5th grade when a teacher
threatened to tie me in a chair. I told her my mother would 'beat her
ass'. They called my mother, she asked the teacher and the principle if
the threat had been made. They said yes. She said I was right, she would
beat their asses. Pretty impressive from a women barely over 5ft. This
was the same women in high school who told the principle he had better things
to do with his time than bother me about not tucking my shirt in or having
long hair. I wish I had a picture of the instructor in the only time I
ever got detention (in HS) when they threatened me with more detention and
expulsion for long hair. 'Ripping them a new asshole' only begins to
describe. I did my three days and that was that.

I've never put my hand on my heart or said the pledge, don't ever intend
to either. I'll never sign an oath either. I've had people ask me about
it, a simple 'Fuck you' resolved the problem quite nicely.


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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:00:38 -0800, you wrote:
>
> At 10:44 AM -0800 2/11/03, Tim May wrote:
> >But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even
> >on the Fox Network, a more rightward network than the others. (Being
> >right no longer means mentioning guns, as Ashcroft and Cheney and the
> >like would prefer that guns be in the hands of der polizei. There's a
> >reason Hitler confiscated guns held privately by Germans.)
>
> Firearms permits were instituted in the late 1920s and were required for ownership 
>of firearms, ammunition, or the legal ability to manufacture either.
>
> When Hitler came to power, he had the laws changed so that only members of the Nazi 
>party could obtain a firearms permit.
> --
> J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com
> buy stuff, damnit: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html

This one just won't die. People keep repeating it. Not much 
different from Bush's "Time is running out" or "They hate us 
because we love freedom". Would you like to show us the part of 
the twelve page German law of March, 1938 that limits gun 
permits to members of the Nazi party? Uh huh, I didn't think so.




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HELLO

2003-02-11 Thread MRS EKI OMORODION
MRS. EKI OMORODION 
#8 Queens Drive Ikoyi 
Lagos. 
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

INTRODUCTION: l am Mrs. Eki Omorodion l know this 
proposal will come to you as a surprise because we 
have not met before either physically or through correspondence. I have no 
doubt in your ability to handle this proposal involving huge sum of money. 
THE SUBJECT: MY HUSBAND CHIEF JOSEPH OMORODION (Now Late) 
was the Royal Head of my Community, JESSE (an oil rich town)in 
Nigeria. My late husband? community produces 3.5%  of the total crude oil 
production in Nigeria and 0.5%  of the Dollar value of each barrel is paid 
to my husband as royalty by the Federal Government. 
My husband was also the Chairman of  OMPADEC,Jesse branch. 
In his position as the Royal head and Chairman of the OMPADEC, Jesse branch, 
= 

he made some money which he left for me and our children 
as the only thing to inherit. The money is Twelve Million US Dollars($12M). 
Though this said fund accumulated  between the period 1976-1998. Due to 
poor banking system in Nigeria and political instability as a result of 
past Military rules (1985-1999), he deposited this Money in a  Strong 
Room/safe with an open beneficiary in Apex Bank of Nigeria pending 
when he would finish arrangement to transfer it abroad as a CONTRACT 
PAYMENT. He  was planning this when he died late last year of Heart Attack. 

THE PROPOSAL: Just before my husband died he called my attention to the 
money and charged me to look for a foreigner who would assist me in the 
transfer / investment of the funds abroad. So l would be very grateful 
if you could accept to help me archieve this great objective. 
I promise to give you 20% of the total funds transferred to your vital 
bank account as compensation for your assistance. Five percent 
(5%)would be set aside to take care of all expenses we may incure during the 
= 

transaction. To indicate your interest, contact me urgently and 
confidentially for more information and the roles you 
will play in this business. All the legal information concerning  this 
Money will be sent to you as soon as we agree together. 
Send your reply through this mail box, or see the note below 
Yours faithfully, 
MRS. Eki Omorodion. 
N.B 
I will like you to provide me immediately with your full names, 
telephone and fax numbers to enable my eldest son 
Melvin Omorodion to contact you. 
He shall handle this transaction from A-Z on behalf of the family. 
Alternatively you can call him on his telephone 
numbers 234-1-7761459, 873-762-533-730, fax 873-762-533-731 
Ask him for thecode and he shall respond GOODLUCK before discussion. 
Just to be sure that you are speaking to him. 





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Undervalued Weekly Reporter Initiates Coverage:
OTCBB: LAIR

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low-cost direct international routes and providing high
quality service. With all of its competitive advantages
L-AIR Holdings (OTC BB: LAIR) is destined to become the
"JetBlue" (NASDAQ: BLU) of Europe.

HOW TO BENEFIT FROM THE AIRLINE CARRIER/TRAVEL CRISIS 
BY INVESTING IN HIGH GROWTH SAFE, SECURE and PROFITABLE
GLOBAL CARRIERS? L-Air Holdings, Inc. (OTC BB: LAIR) -
US$20M in revenue immediately from its first three routes.

Shares Outstanding-22.305 Million
Shares in DTC--4.5 Million
DTC shares m'gt friendly---900k 
DTC management shares--3.2 Million
DTC shares in public float-400k
Recent Price---$0.185
Year Low/Hi$0.09 - $0.185
Visist Website at lair.com 

If you are a frequent or even some-time airline passenger
then you already know how important it is to not only
receive a low-priced fare, but to get the most expeditious
and friendly customer service possible. This is where most
international airline carriers have failed since September
11th. Now that war with Iraq is likely, further financial
crisis at most of the major airlines is also likely.
Alternative international air carriers flying under flags
from countries not likely to be the target of terrorist
attack are seeing their bookings increase dramatically.

So who benefits from this? The airline carriers in
countries such as Belgium, France, Norway and others 
that, can operate safely and securely within this 
framework, while not sacrificing customer service and 
satisfaction through pricing. That is one of the reasons
why we believe L-Air Holdings, Inc. (OTCBB: LAIR) will
succeed particularly well in the short term. Long-term
we feel that the OTCBB: LAIR business model combined
with implementation by its impressive management team
and in-place financiers will bring much higher valuations
to this stock.

The Company's commitment to cost efficiencies and customer
satisfaction is at the core of its business model, just
like JetBlue (NASDAQ: JBLU), Southwest Air (NYSE: LUV),
and easyJet.com, all of whom are very successful within
their respective markets and industry leaders. This
international carrier is on the path to success. Fortune
Magazine recently stated that Southwest Airlines is the
all-time #1 successful investment. We feel L-Air Holdings
is on a similar path.

As recently reported in SPEEDNEWS (speednews.com),
the newsletter of record for the aviation industry,
L-Air Holdings is in the process of acquiring a European 
airline, Belgium Universal Airways, in order to receive
an AOC (air operations certificate). Within one-month
of finalizing the acquisition currently being negotiated
and receipt of its AOC, expected to be complete by March 1,
2003, LAIR will operate two Airbus A340-300 aircraft over
three high-traffic routes. Contracts for these routes are
in place with tour operators and other agencies providing
an initial and immediate revenue stream of approximately
US$400k weekly, or annualized revenues in excess of $20
million from existing contracts.

Based in Brussels, Belgian Universal Airways, through 
direct ownership by OTCBB: LAIR, is being transformed 
into a low-priced passenger airline providing exceptional
customer service, much like its USA based counterpart,
JetBlue (NASDAQ: JBLU). The Company plans an aggressive
expansion campaign as led by its capable ex-Sabena staff
and management with its financier and 51% owner Universal
Capital Partners (UCP). UCP has already spent over US$5
million and committed an additional US$10 million in cash
to the Company's initial operating budget. UCP has also
signed leases with major aircraft manufacturers to provide
LAIR with at least 5-Airbus 340-300 aircraft by year-end.
UCP is a majority shareholder of LAIR.

LAIR expects to take delivery of the first two freshly 
painted jets in April 2003 with the following routes to 
be serviced:

Route 1) Brussels -to- Puntancana (Caribbean - one of
the heaviest European tourist destinations currently)

Route 2) Yervena -to- LAX (Contracts with Armenian agency
to provide this much needed service to be announced upon
successful completion of acquisition)

Route 3) Toronto -to- Montreal -to- Delhi, India (No
competition on this highly lucrative and much needed
route as of yet)

Three additional Airbus 340's are to be acquired through
leases in the Fall of 2003. The carrier proposes to launch
new operations from its Brussels hub in April 2003.

Ask anyone in the airline industry what is the most
promising source of revenue growth with the current 
political situation and insurance cost nightmare for
U.S. and other majors and many will agree that small
carriers with high-traffic routes and good low
mainte

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2003-02-11 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 03:53  PM, Steve Schear wrote:


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By PAUL KRUGMAN

George W. Bush's admirers often describe his stand against Saddam 
Hussein as "Churchillian." Yet his speeches about Iraq  and for that 
matter about everything else  have been notably lacking in promises 
of blood, toil, tears and sweat. Has there ever before been a leader 
who combined so much martial rhetoric with so few calls for sacrifice?

Or to put it a bit differently: Is Mr. Bush, for all his tough talk, 
unwilling to admit that going to war involves some hard choices? 
Unfortunately, that would be all too consistent with his governing 
style. And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media, a 
lack of faith in Mr. Bush's staying power  a fear that he will wimp 
out in the aftermath of war, that he won't do what is needed to 
rebuild Iraq  is a large factor in the growing rift between Europe 
and the United States.

Perhaps, but Bush is more better at talking, plain like, than that guy 
"Churchillian," whoever the fuck he is.  George tells it like it is:

"We're gonna kick some Iraqi bee-hind."

"These Evil Doers have nucular weapons of mass destruction."

"I know I mispronunciate "nucular." My bad."




--Tim May
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a 
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also 
into you." -- Nietzsche



The Ill-fitting uniforms or "unfamiliar forms" of identification defence.

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
When your metalstorm weapon has cooled and a massive number of various 
narks lie dead it's time to plead innocence by error.At least one of these 
'perps' had to have shaved badly or worn an ill fitting uniform.Jeez most 
of them are busting out their uniforms what with all the jellied donuts 
they have to eat.
"...on the lookout for men who appear freshly shaven with cuts or nicks - 
which could indicate a beard has just been removed - as well as anyone with 
ill-fitting uniforms or "unfamiliar forms" of identification..."
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NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-11 Thread Steve Schear
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By PAUL KRUGMAN

George W. Bush's admirers often describe his stand against Saddam Hussein 
as "Churchillian." Yet his speeches about Iraq  and for that matter about 
everything else  have been notably lacking in promises of blood, toil, 
tears and sweat. Has there ever before been a leader who combined so much 
martial rhetoric with so few calls for sacrifice?

Or to put it a bit differently: Is Mr. Bush, for all his tough talk, 
unwilling to admit that going to war involves some hard choices? 
Unfortunately, that would be all too consistent with his governing style. 
And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media, a lack of faith 
in Mr. Bush's staying power  a fear that he will wimp out in the aftermath 
of war, that he won't do what is needed to rebuild Iraq  is a large factor 
in the growing rift between Europe and the United States.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/11/opinion/11KRUG.html


"Reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be 
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Can the Internet Save the World?

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
Forget B-52s. Real power comes from networked hominids tapping keyboards. 
As a Secretary of State discovered, all it takes to verify an official 
"story" is to go online and type in a few key search words. Try "powell 
presentation" or "bush cocaine" -- then hit the key appropriately labeled 
"Enter".

The results can be spectacular. Thanks to a Cambridge professor's 
recollection and online retrieval, Bush's only buddy willing to send 
reluctant soldiers into the irradiated ruins of Baghdad could face a 
humiliating non-confidence vote within days.

Former Labour minister Glenda Jackson told BBC Radio 4, "If that was 
presented to Parliament and the country as being up-to-date intelligence 
and in fact as we now know they simply lifted it from a university thesis, 
it is another example of how the Government is attempting to mislead the 
country and Parliament on the issue of a possible war with Iraq."

Another former Labour minister, Peter Kilfoyle, said he was "shocked" at 
the way the dossier had been doctored. "It just adds to the general 
impression that what we have been treated to is a farrago of half-truths, 
assertions and over-the-top spin. I am shocked that on such thin evidence 
-- a Californian postgraduate thesis -- that we should be trying to 
convince the British people that this is a war worth fighting." [Telegraph 
Feb. 8, 2003]

The implications for Washington's war plans are serious. If Tony Blair 
loses a vote brought against him by his own party, the present Prime 
Minister of England will find himself suddenly unemployed. And Bush will be 
bereft of major backers.
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A handful of dust.

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat

Only in the land of the free would a woman be given the opportunity to
make the newest super-duper weapon—the thermobaric bomb! 
Anh Duong, who fled Saigon for the U.S. in 1975, wished to serve her
adopted country against tyranny. And in doing so she became the lead
bomb-maker at the Naval Surface Warfare Center in Indian Head, Maryland,
where she is the designer behind the bunker-buster custom-crafted to
atomize Osama bin Laden's underground lairs. 
Duong and her team of bombing boffins worked out the explosive kinks at
an accelerated pace, taking only two months to devise the ultra-powerful
munition after the Defense Threat Reduction Agency sent out an order for
a new fire in the hole. The first was sicced on a Nevada tunnel in
December 2001. 
The test brought the house down—turning a regular-looking mine into a
really trashed-looking one. 
The thermobaric bomb's magic ingredient is aluminum dust, also the secret
component of another legendary weapon in the arsenal, the behemoth Daisy
Cutter. Aluminum, handy foil in your kitchen drawer, is a highly
dangerous explosive hazard when powdered. Duong's design duplicates
conditions in a mine saturated with the flammable dust—and then strikes a
match, unleashing a twisting inferno and metal-shredding concussion.

Ten thermobaric bombs were commissioned for the war in Afghanistan. One
is known to have been used, according to The Baltimore Sun. That
round missed, proving that even techno-wizard bangs are useless if one
can't aim. 
Despite publicly reported failure, the legend of the thermobaric bomb is
great. Introduced as a wonder weapon by mainstream-media lapdogs, it has
also been denounced as a weapon of mass destruction akin to a massive and
sinister Russian fuel-air explosive used in Chechnya. One publication
dubbed it an anti-Muslim bomb. 
Not so, said an air force general assigned to spin control. The
thermobaric incinerator was vetted by the Pentagon, and, in Kafkaesque
wordage, "found consistent with all international legal obligations
of the United States, including the law of armed conflict." 
Straight with the law of armed conflict or not, it is certain the
thermobaric bomb is now being eyed for use in Iraq. In Gulf War I,
Baghdad bunker-busting backfired when civilians were cooked in a bomb
shelter. With the thermobaric bomb, however, one cannot tell if one has
hit Saddam or plain folk, because everything in range is . . . dusted.

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According to well known anarchist Al Giordano when the State does something 
you like it's really ok because it's repressive forces have somehow morphed 
into a "nomad war machine."
http://www.uncarved.demon.co.uk/23texts/warmachine.html

This argument is more developed in relation to Venezuela,See...

"...Hakim Bey surprised a lot of people by pointing out a great truth: that 
in an age when the State has become this global economic machine, previous 
enemies - religions and governments, among them - may become tools that can 
be used against this larger State..."
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/12/1552703.php

"The war machine," said Deleuze and Guattari, "is exterior to the State 
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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-11 Thread Steve Mynott
On Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003, at 21:25 Europe/London, Harmon Seaver wrote:


On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 02:34:54PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:

Except that there are so few of those no one has ever been able to
quantify/qualify them, so we don't know what that really consists of.


When you say "those" are you referring to bad acid trips? (Don't tell 
me
you've never had one!)



[..]


experiences which caused me to decide to stop taking "LSD". And very 
clearly
remember someone locally who died in the emergency room after freaking 
out on
the same batch of acid that seemed quite weird to us, they gave him 
thorazine
and it killed him. Obviously it wasn't LSD.

LSD has virtually zero physical toxicity but it's possible someone 
could die as a result of being hysterical or choking due to 
psychological stress.  Not that likely to happen but there are cases.

It has been claimed that DOM ("STP") reacts badly with thorazine but 
this is now not thought to be the case.

It's far likely he died from the thorazine alone since it can cause 
cardiac arrest.

   I then came into a large quantity of peyote -- shazaam, no more
weirdness. Likewise mushrooms, ayahuasca, etc. And that is why, 
essentially,
blotter acid came into being, because you can't get enough of anything 
else but
LSD on that tiny piece of paper to do *anything*, so it's safe.

There have been documented seizures of DOB on blotter (particularly in 
Australia with its traditionally high street cost of LSD).

DOB is a psychedelic which both closely resembles LSD in its effects 
and approaches LSD in potency (a few hundred micrograms).  DOB, unlike 
most psychedelic drugs like LSD, can be physically toxic but at a 
massive overdose level (~100 milligrams) which probably wouldn't fit on 
a blotter.

There are a lot more known drugs active at the LSD level in 2002 than 
1967 but as a rough rule of thumb you are probably still basically 
right.  The blotter is most likely to contain LSD (often as the 
freebase) or nothing at all.

BTW blotter is unstable and likely to have a short shelf life.  
Microdots (containing salts) are likely to last for years.

I'll grant, however, that bad trips seem to occur
much more on 'cid than on natural substances.


I think you are just generalising from your personal experience which 
may not hold for others.

It's just the same as some people claiming particular alcoholic drinks 
are better or worse than others.

The key thing about these drugs is the effects are intensively 
subjective and highly unpredictable.  The dosage level is more likely 
to be related to adverse effects than the particular psychedelic drug 
used.

In double blind tests, where neither the doctor nor the subject knows 
which drug is which, people can't distinguish major psychedelic drugs 
anyway.  The only clear distinction is the duration of drug effect 
which does vary.

This is usually denied by users of these drugs despite numerous studies 
supporting this since the late 1960s.

Set and setting have more to do with it than anything. People who 
partake in

Sure.  Leary was right on that one.

--
Steve Mynott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:44:13 -0800, Tim May wrote:
>
> But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even on the Fox 
>Network, a more rightward network than the others. (Being right no longer means 
>mentioning guns, as Ashcroft and Cheney and the like would prefer that guns be in the 
>hands of der polizei. There's a reason Hitler confiscated guns held privately by 
>Germans.)

You are correct about the conspicuous absence of the mention of 
guns. Just not politically correct. Too much connection to 
individual action and power, which whether good, bad or 
indifferent is the enemy of passive submission to the state.

But you damage your accurate point by accompanying it with the 
erroneous, but often repeated claim about Hitler confiscating 
guns. The Waffengesetz of March 18, 1938 did not confiscate guns 
from German citizens. (Of course, Jewish people were not 
considered German citizens under the law at that time.) There 
was no need to confiscate guns from the population in general. 
Hitler was immensely popular with Germans, and the Weimar 
Republic had enacted some gun control in 1928, before Hitler 
gained power in 1933. The "Hitler Confiscation of Guns" is pure 
urban legend, that attempts to link gun registration and 
confiscation with evil's 20th Centure poster boy. It's bogus.

"The German law certainly was not an ideal one from the 
viewpoint of today's beleaguered American patriot, because it 
did have certain licensing requirements. A permit 
(Waffenerwerbschein) was required to buy a handgun (but not a 
long gun), and a separate license (Waffenschein), good for three 
years, was required to carry any firearm in public.

Actually, the German law was less restrictive than most state 
and local laws in the United States were before the current 
campaign to nullify the Second Amendment shifted into high gear 
in 1993. More significantly, it ameliorated a law which had been 
enacted ten years earlier by a Left-Center government hostile to 
the National Socialists (the government headed by Wilhelm Marx 
and consisting of a coalition of Socialists and Catholic 
Centrists). The 1938 law irritated the Jews by pointedly 
excluding them from the firearms business, but it clearly was 
not a law aimed at preventing the ownership or use of firearms, 
including handguns, for either sporting or self-defense purposes 
by German citizens. As noted above, it actually relaxed or 
eliminated the provisions of a pre-existing law.
The facts, in brief, are these:
The National Socialist government of Germany did not fear its 
citizens. Adolf Hitler was the most popular leader Germany has 
ever had.

The spirit of National Socialism was one of manliness, and 
individual self-defense and self-reliance were central to the 
National Socialist view of the way a citizen should behave. The 
notion of banning firearms ownership was alien to National 
Socialism.

Gun registration and licensing (for long guns as well as for 
handguns) were legislated by an anti-National Socialist 
government in Germany five years before the National Socialists 
gained power. Five years after they gained power they got around 
to rewriting the gun law enacted by their predecessors, 
substantially ameliorating it in the process (for example, long 
guns were exempted from the requirement for a purchase permit; 
the legal age for gun ownership was lowered from 20 to 18 years; 
and the period of validity of a permit to carry weapons was 
extended from one to three years). They may be criticized for 
leaving certain restrictions and licensing requirements in the 
law, but they had no intention of preventing law-abiding Germans 
from keeping or bearing arms.

The highlights of the 1938 German Weapons Law (which in its 
entirety fills 12 pages of the Reichsgesetzblatt with legalese), 
especially as it applied to ordinary citizens rather than 
manufacturers or dealers, follow:
Handguns may be sold or purchased only on submission of a 
Weapons Acquisition Permit (Waffenerwerbschein), which must be 
used within one year from the date of issue. Muzzle-loading 
handguns are exempted from the permit requirement.

Holders of a permit to carry weapons (Waffenschein) or of a 
hunting license do not need a Weapons Acquisition Permit in 
order to acquire a handgun.

A hunting license authorizes its bearer to carry hunting weapons 
and handguns.

Firearms and ammunition, as well as swords and knives, may not 
be sold to minors under the age of 18 years.

Whoever carries a firearm outside of his dwelling, his place of 
employment, his place of business, or his fenced property must 
have on his person a Weapons Permit (Waffenschein). A permit is 
not required, however, for carrying a firearm for use at a 
police-approved shooting range.

A permit to acquire a handgun or to carry firearms may only be 
issued to persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and 
who can show a need for a permit. In particular, a permit may 
not be issued to:

Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 05:20:19PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Harmon Seaver wrote...
> 
> >   As far as actual LSD goes -- none. And I did a couple hundred,
> >anyway. Towards the end (and after it was suggested on the Senate floor 
> >that
> >"bad drugs" be created and distributed on the streets to freak out LSD 
> >users),
> >many things were sold as "LSD" which were not. I recall having some very 
> >strange
> >experiences which caused me to decide to stop taking "LSD".
> 
> That's interesting, actually. I remember getting some very high purity 
> windowpane, and the effect was even calming. The "bad trips" seem to have 
> been associated with acid-mixed-with-speed in general.

   Early on, LSD never came in anything less than 250 mics, and frequently
higher. By the time that people were mixing speed with it, actual dosages were
much less (adding amphetamines to 250mic LSD is fairly pointless) and today
most, from what I hear, are around 75-100 mic. Major difference and really
rather worthless, unless you take 4 or so tabs of blotter. If you don't take
enough to break through, you might as well take speed.  

> 
> But then again, taking 'cid and wandering the streets of New York City has 
> to be a lot more bad-trip-inducing than taking it in more rural settings. 

   Hardly. Well, wandering around anywhere is not a good idea -- set and setting
are extremely important. I well recall once, on some very clean and potent LSD,
walking in the woods outside a friends house on the outskirts of Madison, and
getting caught in a patch of blackberrys. I not only couldn't free myself, but
the vines began to grow rapidly, wrapping around my legs and torso. I was vastly
relieved when Ranger Dick showed up to lend a hand, and calmly unsnagged me from
their lecherous grasp. 
   But again -- wandering around the streets? Going into bars, etc. -- worst
thing to do -- these are not party drugs. 

> (And, there are some personality types that I know really couldn't handle 
> LSD. These are the ones that need constant control over their social 
> surroundings.)

   Yup - increase their dose. Best thing that could happen to the world would be
the development of a benign airforce that sprayed a fog of lsd/dmso on areas
like Palestine. Real LSD, that is. Or better yet, psilocybin.  8-)

> 
> >And very clearly
> >remember someone locally who died in the emergency room after freaking out 
> >on
> >the same batch of acid that seemed quite weird to us, they gave him 
> >thorazine
> >and it killed him. Obviously it wasn't LSD.
> 
> Indeed there are tons of questionable anti-drug propaganda stories out 
> there.

   Well, you can check the Congressional record, this was not rumour, it was
actually proposed in the Senate, can't remember by who, but I well recall
thinking, when reading about it, "what a stupid idea" -- and then later being
very aware that something was seriously wrong with what was hitting the
streets. Especially when people started dying. Hint: LSD/thorazine doesn't kill
you. If, indeed, it even slows down the trip. 



Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com




Threats to the President a Stupid Security Award Winner?

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat

KILL the PRESIDENT!
What's the World's Most Stupid Security Measure? 
By John Leyden 
Posted: 11/02/2003 at 11:35 GMT
Human rights watchdog Privacy International has launched a quest to find
the World's Most Stupid Security Measure. 
The global competition will identify what the group describes as the most
"pointless, intrusive, annoying and self-serving" security
measures. 
The "Stupid Security" award aims to highlight the absurdities
of the security industry. Privacy International's director, Simon Davies,
said his group has taken the initiative because of
"innumerable" security initiatives around the world that had
absolutely no genuine security benefit. 
"The situation has become ridiculous," said Mr Davies.
"Security has become the smokescreen for incompetent and robotic
managers the world over". 
"I have stood for ages in a security line at an inconsequential
office building and grilled relentlessly only to be given a security pass
that a high school student could have faked. And I resent being forced to
take off my shoes at an airport that can't even screen its luggage",
he said. 
Even before 9/11 a whole army of bumbling amateurs has taken it upon
themselves to figure out pointless, annoying, intrusive, illusory and
just plain stupid measures to "protect" our security. 

Privacy International reckons jobsworths have become a global menace.
"From the nightclub in Berlin that demands the home address of its
patrons, to the phone company in Britain that won't let anyone pay more
than twenty pounds a month from a bank account, the world has become
infested with bumptious administrators competing to hinder or harass
us," it reports. 
There are real concerns about security, of course. Privacy International
argues that unworkable security laws and illusory security measures do
nothing to help issues of real public concern. They only hinder the
public and intrude unnecessary into our private lives, the organisation
believes. 
Privacy International, the outfit behind the Big Brother awards, is
calling for nominations on the candidates for the silliest security
measures. Nomination should be sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]by March
15. 
Nominations should be as specific as possible, mentioning the name of the
guilty parties, and wherever possible, including evidence and references.

Any government or private sector initiative or action can be nominated.
Legislation and technology can also be nominated. 
The judges welcome nominations in the form of narratives and anecdotes.

The competition is to be judged by a panel of well-known security
experts, public policy specialists, privacy advocates and journalists.

"Winners" will be announced at the thirteenth Computers,
Freedom & Privacy conference in New York on April 3. ® 
External Links 
The stupid security award page

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/29279.html


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Re: A secure government

2003-02-11 Thread telecon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:25:25AM -0800, Steve Schear wrote:
> How 
> about a publishing bot that creates a current and accessible db of randomly 
> selected recent emails crossing the Internet alphabetized by sender name 
> and email address?  My guess is that if the scoundrels supplying the data 
> cannot be found and the data cannot be removed an increasing number of 
> people will begin to take their email privacy more seriously.

Interesting idea.  Implementation would be fairly trivial.

The hard part would be getting samples from diferent locations.

Or, you could fake emails, and have the vast majority of them be
encrypted, as an example of the benefeit.




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RSA to sue over rumours?

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
In a case that pits free speech against a company's right to defend its
reputation, Metric Companies Inc. has sued two former employees over
postings on Internet message boards.
In lawsuits filed in federal court in Tulsa, Okla., Minnetonka-based Metris
claims the employees posted defamatory and misleading messages about Metris
and its recently ousted CEO, Ronald Zebeck.
The cases allege libel and violations of securities laws.
Metris claims the employees, both of whom worked at the company's Tulsa
office, posted the messages under several anonymous user names to give the
impression they were privy to inside information.
Jeff Nix, attorney for one of the defendants, calls the lawsuits the
equivalent of "going after a couple (of) mosquitoes with an elephant gun."
It's an increasingly popular form of hunting among U.S. companies.
While no one keeps a running total of such suits, one expert said they now
number in the hundreds and many have been successful in stopping people
from posting messages without ever going to trial.
"Most defense attorneys request $10,000 or higher in initial retainers.
Companies have the dollars to prosecute these frivolous lawsuits. The
result is that the defendants are in a financial situation where they are
forced to cave in," said Les French, executive director of the Anonymous
Internet Foundation.
French's group and other civil liberties and privacy groups oppose the
so-called SLAPPs Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation and
last summer called on Internet service providers to adopt policies to
protect their users' rights to anonymous speech on the Internet.
"Our concern has been that these lawsuits are brought to silence people who
are saying things that the company doesn't like," said Cindy Cohn, legal
director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
The amount of Internet chatter about publicly traded companies has grown
along with the use of the Web and general interest in stocks. While most of
the messages are harmless, companies are concerned about the spread of what
they argue is false or confidential information via the Internet.
Sometimes offered by disgruntled shareholders or employees, the postings
also can come from "pump and dump" artists who are seeking to boost or
depress stock prices for their own profit.
In the Metris case, the struggling credit card company contends that as a
result of the postings it has lost revenue, income, investors, customers
and relations with business prospects. The lawsuits ask for a stop to the
Internet postings and seek unspecified compensatory and punitive damages.
Metris, which fired Zebeck in December, declined to comment on the
lawsuits, both filed late last year.
In court documents the defendants said their messages were simply
viewpoints that opposed Metris' company line. They said they didn't profit
by posting the messages and deny they were the cause of Metris' problems.
Metris, which issues credit cards to people with short or patchy credit
histories, recently reported a $34 million loss for 2002. The company has
said its problems stem from the depressed economy, which has left many
moderate-income customers hard-pressed to pay their credit card bills. 



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privileged position in the Ministry and in government
I was among the few technocrats who awarded contract
for the Turn Around Maintenance (T.A.M) of some major
Oil Refineries in Nigeria during the Military Regime.
These contract amounted to US$250M (Two Hundred and
Fifty Million U.S Dollars). While the negotiations of
the contracts were going on, we the Civil Servants
manipulated figures and inflated the contracts. We
made an inflation of 10% of the total contracts sum
with the sole aim of diverting the 10%(US$25Million)
for our own use with the intention of presenting a Sub
Contractor to get the money out.

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get the money transferred from the Apex Bank of our
country to any where in Europe,Asia or America for
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2. 70% as our own share.


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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-11 Thread Tyler Durden
Harmon Seaver wrote...


   As far as actual LSD goes -- none. And I did a couple hundred,
anyway. Towards the end (and after it was suggested on the Senate floor 
that
"bad drugs" be created and distributed on the streets to freak out LSD 
users),
many things were sold as "LSD" which were not. I recall having some very 
strange
experiences which caused me to decide to stop taking "LSD".

That's interesting, actually. I remember getting some very high purity 
windowpane, and the effect was even calming. The "bad trips" seem to have 
been associated with acid-mixed-with-speed in general.

But then again, taking 'cid and wandering the streets of New York City has 
to be a lot more bad-trip-inducing than taking it in more rural settings. 
(And, there are some personality types that I know really couldn't handle 
LSD. These are the ones that need constant control over their social 
surroundings.)


And very clearly
remember someone locally who died in the emergency room after freaking out 
on
the same batch of acid that seemed quite weird to us, they gave him 
thorazine
and it killed him. Obviously it wasn't LSD.

Indeed there are tons of questionable anti-drug propaganda stories out 
there. Like claims that Ecstacy is dangerous, despite the fact the RIGHT NOW 
there's probably millions of kids around the world high on it, and probably 
none of them will die. (The danger almost certainly comes from the fact that 
petty mobsters and whatnot make it in their basement.)

As for LSD driving people batty, I believe it, but then again those it drove 
batty I think already had the seeds of battiness down deep before 
hand...acid was basically just "miracle grow" on those seeds (and 
LSD-induced battiness requires a LOT of acid).

Then again, a HighSchool buddy of mine took it about 300 times in HS and 
college and he remains as blase as always.

-TD

"Stuy's High!"


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A Personal friend of Shrubs is corrupt.

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat

PM's office upgrade a mere
$340,000 
12 February 2003 

TAXPAYERS spent about $340,000 refurbishing the Prime Minister's
Sydney suite of offices including $4000 for a newspaper stand, a Senate
hearing was told yesterday.
The PM also recently covered up for a corrupt Minister,Helen Coonan.The
second most powerful treasurers official.AND...
PM tunes in to free Telstra TV

12 February 2003 

JOHN Howard has been drawn into the Telstra gifts to the Government row by revelations that he also accepted a free digital TV from the company.
Adviser turns to private sector 
12 February 2003 

HEALTH Minister Kay Patterson's senior adviser on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme has quit to take a position with drug giant Merck Sharp and Dohme.
Former Ministers Peter Reith and Michael Woolridge also slid straight into highly lucrative private enterprise positions both dealing intensively with the Govt.Searchs on both those names will reveal some of the nature of a culture of deep seated corruption approved by John Howard,the man described yesterday as a 'personal friend' of the shrub's by the shrub.


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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
War mad, says ex-defence head
By IAN McPHEDRAN, defence reporter
12feb03

A RETIRED defence chief has accused the Howard Government of madness in 
pursuing war against Iraq.

Former Chief of Defence Admiral Alan Beaumont said there was no 
justification for war without United Nations backing, and little 
justification for war with it.
He also warned the military campaign could be long and bloody and attacked 
the Government for promoting a low-casualty operation.
"This is bloody mad," Admiral Beaumont told the Herald Sun yesterday. "I 
don't understand how it is in the national interest to kow-tow to the US."
Admiral Beaumont said despite lack of evidence on Iraq's weapons stockpile, 
Australia was now fully integrated into US war plans and would be unable to 
back out.
He said he had discussed the war with about 30 former military chiefs and 
all were against a campaign without a UN mandate.
"No one I know supports the Government's position," he said.
Retired Major-General Alan Stretton said he could not understand why 
Australia was meekly following the US to war.
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Fight your own fucking wars!

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat

10 February 2003 ]
One in five reservists is resisting call-up for
war
UK: 'One in five of the military reservists called up in
preparation for a possible war in Iraq has asked to be excused from duty
or simply ignored the order' 
( Independent )
»
See also this text of the Reserve
Forces Act 1996, and this blog entry
from last month.LINKS?
http://www.hullocentral.demon.co.uk/site/anfin.htm
Three crew of the HMAS Kanimbla headed to the Middle East have left the
ship after refusing to take an anthrax vaccination, one of them claimed
last night. 
Able Seaman Simon Bond, an electrical engineer, said he and two others
had been airlifted from the Kanimbla after refusing to take the
vaccination. 
After receiving information from a family member at home about Gulf War
syndrome, he decided against taking the vaccine. 
The Kanimbla's crew were asked to sign a consent form and have the
vaccination a day after sailing from Darwin. Sent back to Sydney, Able
Seaman Bond (pictured) told ABC TV's 7:30 Report last night that
the ship's engineer had warned him he would be moved from his home port
to Perth and face further action if he refused the vaccine. 
He said he took the engineer's comments as a direct threat against his
career in the navy. 
"Bloody oath I did, if that's not saying if you don't take the
injection we're going to try and stuff you over then I don't know what
is," Able Seaman Bond said.
"If you walked into a doctor in civvy street and he gave you this
information, there is no way in hell you'd let him jab it into you."

The Kanimbla is now in the Indian Ocean. A defence force spokesman,
Brigadier Mike Hannan, said any crew failing to take the vaccine would be
removed for their own safety. He denied action would be taken against
those who refused the vaccine.
http://smh.com.au/articles/2003/02/12/1044927607793.html
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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 02:34:54PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
> >Except that there are so few of those no one has ever been able to
> >quantify/qualify them, so we don't know what that really consists of.
> 
> When you say "those" are you referring to bad acid trips? (Don't tell me 
> you've never had one!)

   As far as actual LSD goes -- none. And I did a couple hundred,
anyway. Towards the end (and after it was suggested on the Senate floor that
"bad drugs" be created and distributed on the streets to freak out LSD users),
many things were sold as "LSD" which were not. I recall having some very strange
experiences which caused me to decide to stop taking "LSD". And very clearly
remember someone locally who died in the emergency room after freaking out on
the same batch of acid that seemed quite weird to us, they gave him thorazine
and it killed him. Obviously it wasn't LSD. 
   I then came into a large quantity of peyote -- shazaam, no more
weirdness. Likewise mushrooms, ayahuasca, etc. And that is why, essentially,
blotter acid came into being, because you can't get enough of anything else but
LSD on that tiny piece of paper to do *anything*, so it's safe. 

> I'll grant, however, that bad trips seem to occur 
> much more on 'cid than on natural substances.
 
   Again, I never had a bad trip on LSD. 

> But I'll also point out that 
> its on the bad trips where the "Emporer's New Clothes" are most obviously 
> yanked away, and we SEE that all the stuff we thought held us together was 
> more or less arbitrary or self-defeating.

   Well, if you are talking about ego-loss -- that's not a bad trip, that's what
is supposed to happen. Coming to some astounding realizations about the nature
of the universe and our place in it is not "bad", it's what seekers have spent
years working towards -- all yours in a few hours. 

> Unfortunately, some folks are so 
> dependent on those illusions that they can not handle their removal, even 
> for 4-8 hours or so, so they freak.
> 

Set and setting have more to do with it than anything. People who partake in
powerful spiritual experiences, not just psychedelic substances, with no
consideration of the consequences of what they do deserve what they get. Some
people get very freaked out by a tarot reading. Most people sleep walk through
life, many are completely entranced by the delusions of their
preconceptions. Reality can be terrifying. 
 Look at how many people are truly afraid of the dark, how many who fear
spiders and other natural things. 





> -TD
> 
> PS: It was along these lines that my comparison of a bad trip to 9/11 was 
> meant.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill
> >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:11:43 -0600
> >
> >On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 06:31:56PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
> >> "I'm not so sure this emperor could handle psycedelics.  Might
> >> break the robotic connections"
> >>
> >> Arguably, 9/11 was a bad trip, and now we're completely freaking out.
> >>
> >
> >Except that there are so few of those no one has ever been able to
> >quantify/qualify them, so we don't know what that really consists of.
> >
> >--
> >Harmon Seaver
> >CyberShamanix
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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Tim May
My point was that a gun is an item for an emergency, not that everyone 
who does not now have one should buy one. Nor was my point addressing 
the issue of "what would happen if everyone tried to buy one suddenly!?"


On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 12:43  PM, Trei, Peter wrote:
Three points:

1. About half of US households have guns already. It's safe to
assume that they will defend themselves if TSHTF.


And my point is that mention of a gun in a set of emergency supplies is 
expected, except where the press is gun-phobic.


2. For the half which don't, a very large number of them consist of
people with no firearms experience (especially since the draft
ended 30 years ago), no knowledge of gun maintenance and
safety, or training in how, when, and when not to use them.


This overstates the dangers and care required for a gun by a wide 
margin. Guns are very simple, require almost no maintenance (I know 
friends/family who have never cleaned or oiled their guns, and yet they 
work fine when the trigger is pulled).


3. The supply isn't there. Guns last a very long time, and
rarely need to be replaced. As a result, the stockpile
of available unsold guns is much smaller than the
size of the unarmed populace.


Beware the "but what if _everyone_ thought that way?" logical fallacy.

And apply your reasoning to some of those other emergency kit items 
being recommended, e.g., a spare pair of glasses: "But if everybody 
tried to get eyeglass prescriptions filled, think of the chaos at 
Lenscrafters and Pearlevision? It would be diastrous. Just the traffic 
jams alone would cripple the economy."

By the way, having looked at the inventory of several of the local gun 
shops, each has several hundred guns on display. More are in 
warehouses. A surge in gun buying, should it happen, would likely 
result in millions of handguns and rifles being shipped out of 
warehouses and depots to gun stores.

Furthermore, many gun owners have dozens of handguns and rifles. (One 
friend of mine has a dozen handguns and 40 rifles. I myself 
have...well, a lot.) A modest increase in prices, such as would be 
expected if the "supply isn't there" market situation were true, would 
likely result in a lot of people deciding they'd be happy to sell that 
old .38 Special they've moved beyond for a modest $300. Or that old 
.30-30 lever action for $250. A hundred million handguns and rifles 
could come out of closets--without depleting the owners of more serious 
and modern firepower--in weeks.

Not that this will happen. Most people won't get the first aid kit or 
water purification systems the emergency kit reports are recommended, 
so they wouldn't get a gun either.

My point was that not mentioning guns is "the dog that didn't bark." 
Advising on emergency kits to deal with disruptions of food, water, and 
power but mentioning _nothing_ about defense, is telling.


Even if they live in a state where it's legal to do so without getting
a license from the state first, telling the sheeple to rush out and
buy shotguns would probably lose more lives to accidents than it
would save, if Walmart etal didn't run out of stock first.


Doubtful, but I dealt with these issues above.

--Tim May
"That government is best which governs not at all." --Henry David 
Thoreau



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RE: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Trei, Peter
> Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[...]
> That Item Whose Name May Not Be Spoken on Television: a gun.
> 
> If there's disruption, looting, a breakdown in what now passes for 
> civil order, a gun is just about the most important thing to have. 
> Probably not necessary to use it, for 99.5% of everyone, but then most 
> of the emergency things like plastic sheets and medical supplies 
> probably won't be needed, either.
[...]

Your point is well taken, but:

Three points:

1. About half of US households have guns already. It's safe to
assume that they will defend themselves if TSHTF.

2. For the half which don't, a very large number of them consist of 
people with no firearms experience (especially since the draft 
ended 30 years ago), no knowledge of gun maintenance and 
safety, or training in how, when, and when not to use them.

3. The supply isn't there. Guns last a very long time, and
rarely need to be replaced. As a result, the stockpile
of available unsold guns is much smaller than the
size of the unarmed populace.

Even if they live in a state where it's legal to do so without getting
a license from the state first, telling the sheeple to rush out and 
buy shotguns would probably lose more lives to accidents than it 
would save, if Walmart etal didn't run out of stock first.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have the freedom to do so - far
from it. But I don't think it's practical advice.

Peter Trei




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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Tim May wrote:

> And so on. He talks the talk, but he and his buddies in HomeSec are
> establishing a national police force, "states rights" be damned.

He's proof that you can fool just about everyone simultaneously -
the NRA supports him inspite of his lack of  of commitment to
the 2nd.

> The impending clusterfuck (I hope) should be interesting to watch.

I'm betting 3 days start to finish of the "war" portion.  After that
it should be interesting.

> The good news is that France and Germany are saying "no" to the use of
> NATO for Bush's war. This may break apart NATO, especially as the "NATO
> wannabees" like Romania, Bulgaria, Latvia, etc. are all kowtowing to
> the U.S. demands.
>
> (Saddam is not an ally of liberty, and Iraq looks to be a repressive
> place. But I take "no entangling alliances" quite seriously. And unless
> there is a "clear and present danger" of an attack by or from a foreign
> nation, I say "stay at home and avoid foreign entanglements." I have
> seen no evidence that Iraq launched the 9/11 attacks, so carpet-bombing
> Baghdad seems unjustified. Powell's "smoking gun" was a fizzle.)

I've not followed it closely, but Powell claims to have a tape of
Bin Laden talking to "Iraqi's".  Al Jazerra denys it's real.  This is
all from NPR.  The game is afoot, let's see who can deliver the bigger
lie.

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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread jet
At 10:44 AM -0800 2/11/03, Tim May wrote:
>But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even
>on the Fox Network, a more rightward network than the others. (Being
>right no longer means mentioning guns, as Ashcroft and Cheney and the
>like would prefer that guns be in the hands of der polizei. There's a
>reason Hitler confiscated guns held privately by Germans.)

Firearms permits were instituted in the late 1920s and were required for ownership of 
firearms, ammunition, or the legal ability to manufacture either.

When Hitler came to power, he had the laws changed so that only members of the Nazi 
party could obtain a firearms permit.
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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 11:20  AM, Bill Frantz wrote:


At 10:44 AM -0800 2/11/03, Tim May wrote:

But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even
on the Fox Network, a more rightward network than the others. (Being
right no longer means mentioning guns, as Ashcroft and Cheney and the
like would prefer that guns be in the hands of der polizei. There's a
reason Hitler confiscated guns held privately by Germans.)


I thought Ashcroft was on record as stating that the second amendment
confered an individual right to own arms.  Are his actions are not in
accord with his words?


He talks the talk, but his Justice Department continues to enforce 
assault weapon laws (which are ipso fact unconstitutional, as the 
language of the Second makes it clear that military-type rifles for the 
citizen militia were the intent, not just "target pistols" and ".22 
plinkers"). His DOJ continues to raid houses where "gun stockpilers" 
are believed to be.

His DOJ has not charged Ruby Ridge sniper Lon Horiuchi with capital 
murder.

And so on. He talks the talk, but he and his buddies in HomeSec are 
establishing a national police force, "states rights" be damned.

If Ashcroft and Company really believed the line they publically speak, 
they would, for example, initiate a court challenge in California to 
strike down California's restrictions on "evil black rifles" as being 
unconstitutional.

The impending clusterfuck (I hope) should be interesting to watch.

The good news is that France and Germany are saying "no" to the use of 
NATO for Bush's war. This may break apart NATO, especially as the "NATO 
wannabees" like Romania, Bulgaria, Latvia, etc. are all kowtowing to 
the U.S. demands.

(Saddam is not an ally of liberty, and Iraq looks to be a repressive 
place. But I take "no entangling alliances" quite seriously. And unless 
there is a "clear and present danger" of an attack by or from a foreign 
nation, I say "stay at home and avoid foreign entanglements." I have 
seen no evidence that Iraq launched the 9/11 attacks, so carpet-bombing 
Baghdad seems unjustified. Powell's "smoking gun" was a fizzle.)



--Tim May
"Dogs can't conceive of a group of cats without an alpha cat." --David 
Honig, on the Cypherpunks list, 2001-11



Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-11 Thread Tyler Durden
Except that there are so few of those no one has ever been able to
quantify/qualify them, so we don't know what that really consists of.


When you say "those" are you referring to bad acid trips? (Don't tell me 
you've never had one!) I'll grant, however, that bad trips seem to occur 
much more on 'cid than on natural substances. But I'll also point out that 
its on the bad trips where the "Emporer's New Clothes" are most obviously 
yanked away, and we SEE that all the stuff we thought held us together was 
more or less arbitrary or self-defeating. Unfortunately, some folks are so 
dependent on those illusions that they can not handle their removal, even 
for 4-8 hours or so, so they freak.

-TD

PS: It was along these lines that my comparison of a bad trip to 9/11 was 
meant.






From: Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:11:43 -0600

On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 06:31:56PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
> "I'm not so sure this emperor could handle psycedelics.  Might
> break the robotic connections"
>
> Arguably, 9/11 was a bad trip, and now we're completely freaking out.
>

Except that there are so few of those no one has ever been able to
quantify/qualify them, so we don't know what that really consists of.

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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Bill Frantz
At 10:44 AM -0800 2/11/03, Tim May wrote:
>But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even
>on the Fox Network, a more rightward network than the others. (Being
>right no longer means mentioning guns, as Ashcroft and Cheney and the
>like would prefer that guns be in the hands of der polizei. There's a
>reason Hitler confiscated guns held privately by Germans.)

I thought Ashcroft was on record as stating that the second amendment
confered an individual right to own arms.  Are his actions are not in
accord with his words?

Cheers - Bill

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Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Tim May
Here in war-preparing America, reports are running on CNN, CNBC, CBS, 
and presumably other networks about the importance of some basic 
emergency supplies for all good citizen-units. This is mostly good 
advice, of course.

Being a paranoid and a kind of survivalist, I already have first aid 
kits, spare water, batteries, flashlights, warm clothing, duct tape and 
plastic sheets, spare eyeglasses, and the other items being recommended 
by the experts. In fact, I have a _lot_ more than this.

The idea is that the some attack by the Evil Doers in the Axis of Evil 
may come after the U.S. begins carpet-bombing Baghdad or Tehran or 
Pyongyang. Unspoken is the possibility that one of the various 
powderkegs may lead to a larger war. Disruption of supply lines, even 
civil disorder, could occur.

The news channels are right in spending a couple of minutes a day 
talking about basic preparedness for a several day disruption. However, 
there's one basic item they conspicuously neglect to mention.

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If there's disruption, looting, a breakdown in what now passes for 
civil order, a gun is just about the most important thing to have. 
Probably not necessary to use it, for 99.5% of everyone, but then most 
of the emergency things like plastic sheets and medical supplies 
probably won't be needed, either.

But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even 
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right no longer means mentioning guns, as Ashcroft and Cheney and the 
like would prefer that guns be in the hands of der polizei. There's a 
reason Hitler confiscated guns held privately by Germans.)


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may have a gun." --Patrick Henry
"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they 
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2003-02-11 Thread Mike Rosing
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RE: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-11 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Vincent Penquerc'h wrote:

> But wouldn't that hint to these children that they may actually
> have to think ? You don't have to think of a flag, you just react
> with (preprepared) emotions, but with a constitution...

No reason we can't start a movement to plege alegiance to the constitution
:-)

> Best of all was, we were a group of french people one day, in the
> library, and this happened again. We looked at each other, and
> tacitly decided to continue our stuff, silently, without at all
> disrupting their ceremony. No more than two minutes after the end
> of it, we got the head of the library come to us, knowing we were
> french, and telling us we *had* to do it...
> That was *years* ago.

Some 40+ years ago we had to learn it in kindergarten.  One kid
refused and they took him out of class.  I never saw him again.
I think he had other problems (learning disability of some sort)
but you can bet it scared the shit out of the rest of us.  Ever
since I've despised the plege ceremony.  It really is brainwashing,
and it only works on the robots :-)

> You bet that after that, some people forget to think altogether
> and refer back to this thorough brainwashing they had when they
> were kids.

Unless it has an opposite effect, and you're scarred for life
to watch out for brainwashing.  It's interesting watching my
local community deal with it, we made national news last year by
*disallowing* the pledge (kids didn't have to say it).  Whooboy,
talk about a tempest in a teapot!

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Re: [IP] Open Source TCPA driver and white papers (fwd)

2003-02-11 Thread Michel Messerschmidt
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 02:32:13PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
> TPM != TCPA.  TCPA with *user* control is good.

The TPM is a mandatory part of the TCPA specifications.
There will be no TCPA without TPM.

And there will be no TCPA-enabled system with complete user control. 
Just look at the main specification:
 - users can't access nor alter the Endorsement Key
 - the TPM can't be disabled completely. This allows operating systems
   that bind ("product activation" ?) themselves to an unique TPM and
   refuse to start if it's not fully activated.
 
If a system doesn't meet these reqirements (as the IBM paper suggests) 
it isn't a TCPA system.


> > Therefore for DRM purposes TCPA and Palladium are both socially bad
> > technologies.
> 
> It's bad only if the *user* does not have control over their own machines.
> If each enterprise can control their own machines, completely
> independently of all other external organizations, then TCPA could be
> really useful.  If only Bill Gates controls all machines, it's bad for the
> rest of us (but pretty damn good for Bill!!)

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RE: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-11 Thread Vincent Penquerc'h
> While I have a lot of problem with the Pledge in any form, I think it
> would be greatly improved if it were made to the Constitution, rather
> than the flag.

But wouldn't that hint to these children that they may actually
have to think ? You don't have to think of a flag, you just react
with (preprepared) emotions, but with a constitution...

I once went to the US, in a family, for a couple of weeks, and went
to high school there. I didn't know about it then, and it really
took me by surprise. The whole classroom standing up to the sound
the loudspeaker, like some show of warmongering made for TV in some
dictatorial country. Eerie.

Best of all was, we were a group of french people one day, in the
library, and this happened again. We looked at each other, and
tacitly decided to continue our stuff, silently, without at all
disrupting their ceremony. No more than two minutes after the end
of it, we got the head of the library come to us, knowing we were
french, and telling us we *had* to do it...
That was *years* ago.

You bet that after that, some people forget to think altogether
and refer back to this thorough brainwashing they had when they
were kids.

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